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Manufacturer: Cloudmark

Product summary

The goodThe good: Excellent accuracy with minimal false positives; works directly inside Outlook and Outlook Express; easy way to report fraudulent mail.

The badThe bad: Average technical support; inconsistent filtering and server performance.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: Cloudmark Desktop is good at stopping spam, but it offers fewer features than either Qurb or MailFrontier.

Average user rating: from 22 users
3.0 stars

Editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 07/26/2005

Like MailFrontier, Cloudmark Desktop (formerly known as Cloudmark Safetybar) installs directly inside Outlook and Outlook Express, sifts your mail as it downloads, and shuttles suspected junk into a folder where you can review it later. But while Cloudmark Desktop stops a ton of spam, it's not as flexible, functional, or inexpensive as either of its rivals, and Cloudmark's support leaves much to be desired. Cloudmark Desktop for Outlook has a few unique toolbar features, including a way to report fraudulent e-mail with a single click and a meter that tells you how much time and money using Desktop has saved you, which is just silly. In the antispam horse race, Cloudmark Desktop manages a only respectable third.

Overall, Cloudmark Desktop stopped an impressive 96 percent of spam e-mail in our tests, while trapping less than 4 percent of legitimate messages by mistake. Head-to-head, filtering the same e-mail messages, Qurb 3.0 stopped slightly more spam, though with a higher rate of false positives. However, Cloudmark Desktop's performance was marred by technical glitches. On several occasions Cloudmark's servers were inaccessible, rendering the product useless. (At press time the company issued a new release that appears to have fixed the problem.)




Cloudmark Desktop relies on a community of rabid e-mail users to identify and block spam.

Unfortunately, Cloudmark Desktop provides far less information about its quarantined mail. Qurb displays both the sender's name and actual e-mail address so that you can see if they match, as well as the first few lines of each message. That means Cloudmark Desktop users will spend more time previewing or opening blocked messages to determine whether they're really spam. Cloudmark Desktop also lacks Qurb's built-in search capabilities and its unique Sender Domain Verification feature, which helps guard against phishing e-mail. And MailFrontier offers more blocking customization tools than Cloudmark Desktop.

Support options for Cloudmark Desktop are limited to FAQs, user forums, and Web-based e-mail. When we tried to send an e-mail for support, however, we got stuck in an endless loop, unable to reach the Web-mail form. It turns out our browser's cookie settings were too strict--a fact Cloudmark's site should have warned us about but didn't. After we contacted Cloudmark, the company changed the site so that it would work even when session cookies were blocked, but the site still requires users to enter their personal information twice. When we finally did send e-mail, we got a response in less than a day. Neither Qurb nor MailFrontier offer superb support, but they're still ahead of Cloudmark.

User opinions

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User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Cloudmark censors

Pros: not much to say in favor

Cons: Cloudmark censors email content that is sometimes conservative or Christian. Repeatedly email from conservative or Christian sources is tagged as spam. Email from liberal sources is never tagged as spam.

Review: I use netaddress.com has my email provider, they use Cloudmark to filter for spam. I average about 250 legitimate emails a day. In my Inbox on a daily basis, I have to mark 3-5 emails as spam. With some senders I have had to reported the same sender as a spamer repeatedly before it began Cloudmark began tagging the sender as spam. On a daily basis I have about 200 emails tagged as spam and sorted to the junk mail folder. On a daily basis I have 2-3 that are false-postive. Some emails from personal friends sent only to me or a couple of others have been tagged as spam. Most of those emails did not contain any urls or other graphics, just text and most of those were a personal message--a few were forwards from friends.

Cludmark has refused to provide netaddress explanations as to why they marked email as spam on s specfic basis.
User Rating:
1.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Slows down link in email to open browser page

Pros: Maybe it cleans out spam OK, but at a very high price in opening a linked browser page.

Cons: Clicking on a link in MS Outlook 2003 POP3 email took very long time to open a Firefox browser page (like 90 or more seconds). My experience is most decidedly different than those of other reviewers.

Review: Not worth the time penalty in opening linked browser pages. Did not even have to restore to earlier restore point to regain linking speed after uninstall by Revo Uninstaller.
User Rating:
5.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Best antispam software ever

Pros: Cloudmark Desktop has completely eliminated all of my spam from my inbox. And it doesn't delete them- it puts them in a separate folder.

Cons: Only once did an email go into spam folder that wasn't supposed to, but that's one out of thousands.

Review: This is the best antispam prevention software I have ever used. And it doesn't slow down my computer.
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Big Brother Has a Name, and that Name is CLOUDMARK

Pros: None. This is a censorship tool.

Cons: Plenty. This is a censorship tool.

Review: Big Brother Has a Name, and that Name is CLOUDMARK: This 1984-ish content-based "spam signature" filter--used by Communist China's largest email services for "filtering" (i.e. censorship)--gives Comcast, Network Solutions and many other major US Internet and web services providers complete control over what emails YOU are allowed to send or receive. With Cloudmark, they can define whatever they choose to be a "spam signature", including the name of a cause they don't support, or the business telephone numbers of people who do. Here is how I know: *******[dot]com/Cloudmark
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

The very best spamblocker for MSOutlook users!

Pros: Catches and sorts out 500+ spam per day with no false positives. Low cost. Installs easily. Good customer support.

Cons: Can't say one bad thing about this great software!

Review: I use MSOutlook and receive about 500-600 spam emails per day. I can't change my email address and was considering hiring a person to look through mail because other spam blocking software just didn't work. Too many false positives (good email going to the junk drawer). Then I discovered this great software. Cloudmark now detects every spam and in two years of extremely happy use, I have yet to find one single good e-mail in the junk file (I look at each disposal). Sorry, I can't say that about McAfee, Norton or a host of others I tried before Cloudmark. I've had good user support, software runs without fail and I gladly pay the pennies they ask for such effective programming. The only reason I'm not giving a "10" is because nothing is perfect...but this software comes pretty darn close! I've had no significant increases due to the use of the software. If you don't puposefully (accidentally) block legitimate e-mails, this software works very well. (Accidental blocks can be rectified.) We currently hold two licenses of the software. Outstanding time saver!
User Rating:
2.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Quite effective

Pros: Easy to use

Cons: Number of spam messages seemed to increase after downloading free trial

Review: I had actually decided to subscribe as the product was OK, but I was put off by the attempt to 'hide' the US$40 cost by posting it at USS39.95 and the (apparent) lack of a PayPal facility - I was in a hurry, and who wants to fiddle inputting credit card numbers, name, address, etc.?

Also, immediately after downloading the free trial, I was surprised to see almost double the amount of my 'regular' spam come in - could of course be a pure coincidence, but I wondered if it might be a method of 'encouraging' sign ups.
User Rating:
1.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Does not work well w/ Outlook

Pros: cute tool bar

Cons: Worthless to email power users

Review: Cloudmark does is incompatible with Outlook's multiple windows. It stops working requiring a Detect and Repair of Outlook (destroying user customizations) and un and re-install of Cloudmark. So if you like spending hours redoing software, and being a free Beta tester, go for it.

The do have fast email responses for user problems and a somewhat helpful support website. It does catch 100 % of spam that gets by my ISP and Mailwasher filters. But it also catches about 5% of valid email.

Cloudmark could someday be useful for Outlook. I wish them well in future versions.
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

"Free" trial cost me $116 in support from my PC consultant

Pros: The Cloudmark website says sorry for freezing Outlook permanently

Cons: Stopped Outlook 2003 working at all

Review: I have used buckets of software over the last 23 years. None (and I mean NONE) has caused me the problem that Cloudmark has caused. Be advised.

Oliver 8*
Updated
. . .I was surprised, to say the least, given my experiences with oh, I don't know, say, hmmmmm, let me pick someone at random oh! OK MICROSOFT. I now up my rating to 7 (with a bullet, meaning I'll take it up higher if appropriate)

Cloudmark, it may not be true love, but I feel good towards you. .. .now.
User Rating:
1.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Poor filtering, allowing 20-30 spam a day;very poor technical support

Pros: few...easily installed

Cons: Little interest in trying to correct VERY frustrating bugs in the program...I would NOT recommend anyone buying this.

Review: After around 10 emails to try and get them to fix a frustating bug..it is STILL there...ie if you attempt to filter mail and you are off-line, it will automatically then start adding its very frustating signature line to all of your email... and its is VERY painful to remove...I find their response totoally inadequate.... and after all that, I still get 20-30 spam emails a day!
User Rating:
1.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Doesn't work like Cloudmark says it should. Just quit filtering spam for no explainable reason.

Pros: When it worked, it was nice.

Cons: Tech Support couldn't even tell me how to reset the filter so it would catch the spam. Instead it allowed it to go directly to my Inbox as if I didn't have a spam filter.

Review: Paid $39.95 for this joke of a program. There
so-called Tech Support sent me some gobblygook which I didn't understand! Uninstalled the software since it did nothing anyway.
User Rating:
1.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

spam trebled

Pros: installed easily

Cons: slow to function

Review: A week after installing CloudMark I started receiving more junk emails than I ever had. I contacted the company asking why this should be but received no response. After 2-3 weeks of receiving aprox. three times more spam on a daily basis - I removed it. A week later I was back to normal and receiving the same amount of spam as prior to installing CloudMark. Curious.
User Rating:
1.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Same as always

Pros: Installs easy

Cons: Don't Work Causes more spam

Review: I've had it installed for awhile and it seems like i'm gettin double spammed with MORE than before spam
and what i tell it to block i have to tell it EVERYTIME
i read reviews on this before i d/ld it
but now i know for myself i'll hafta to find something else
to make sure i'm not mistaken i used it on my private email and started getting spam ...the same spam on both email addresses
just seems to strange
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

I have tried Cloudmark for 1 day and I LOVE IT!

Pros: Thanks for a simple solution! Today I got 38 emails, 35 were correctly identified as spam!

Cons: would prefer to have one application for all Internet woes and get on with real work

Review:
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Wonderful anti-spam program

Pros: 1 false positive out of my first 1000 spams

Cons: If you're one of the first to get a spam, it goes through till enough folks put it into the database.

Review: I love you folks! I even edited your e-mail rule to send the spam directly to my "Deleted Items" box! In over 3 weeks I only found 1 incorrectly identified e-mail so I decided it wasn't worth checking the list of over 50 Spam a day!>>
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Cloudmark Antispam retrieved me from the depths of insanity. The spam took half an hour to delete

Pros: Open outlook express or whatever you use and you get the e-mails you want.

Cons: It pays to check before deleting the filtered spam because rarely, one or two mails get sucked up in the vacuum

Review: I would recomend this to anyone, three or four bucks a month you can't go wrong.

This has to be the best anti spam software there is available, I tried every filter available I'm sure of it and now that I have found Cloudmark I will never look back…Thank you.>>
User Rating:
3.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Good Product, Lousy Policies

Pros: High detection rate, low overhead to use

Cons: Poor customer service policies; Outlook only; Pricey

Review: Easy to install and works well for average users. Had some incompatibility problems a couple years ago (interfered with synching a PDA), but seems cleaned up. However, read their EULA carefully before signing up for annual agreement. Not only do they not allow refunds for any reason, but they automatically charge your credit card for renewal (nonrefundable) and THEN send you an email.
Updated
Oh, and they also require a written notice of cancellation 45 days in advance. Sheeesh!
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

With this program (service) I no longer waste irretrievable hours wading through all that spam!

Pros: Easy to use, plugs itself into your email program and it really does work!

Cons: None found yet.

Review: With this program (service) I no longer waste irretrievable hours wading through all that spam! It has not flagged a single piece of legitimate email as spam. It only gets the spam! At $4 per month, it's not the cheapest spam filter, but it is the best I've found yet. It is certainly well worth the money. Working out to less than $1 per week, I think it's great.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Cloudmark works well for me

Pros: Seems to work at least as well as Mail Frontier

Cons: Only used it 3 weeks, no Con's yet.

Review: I have been a registered user of Mail Frontier Matador for over a year now and it realy works well, it offers a great deal of user control.

Cloudmark on the other hand has less user control and, in my experience, catches at least as much spam as Mail Frontier does.

One major reson I like Cloudmark is the very reson Cloudmark was rated down by CNET and that is the fact that Cloudmark has few user controls, I thought that was a plus, a spam filter that just blocked spam and didnt have a great deal of user input.

My Matador also has a problem with the Dell Axim X30 software (or the Dell software has a problem with Mail Frontier)

Whenever my Axim Synchronizes with my PC it opens an outlook process to synchronize files, after these files are syncronized the Outlook Process remains open to update the Axim as updates occur, when the windows task manager shows an open Outlook Process Mail Frontier wont run in Outlook, it is necessary to close outlook, open the task manager, click the Processes tab , find Outlook and end the process then log back into Outlook, Mail Frontier will then load and do it's job, I dont have this problem with Cloudmark, I will stop using the trial version of Cloudmark and purchase it today to replace My Mail Frontier. on a 1 to 10 I will give Cloudmark a 9+.

Although Mail Frontier has been an excelent spam filter for me, Cloudmarks lack of user settings and controls and the fact that it works with my Axim Software and seems to catch at least as much spam as Mail Frontier even without all the extra control makes it a good choice for me.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

I love this product!

Pros: It does exactly what it advertises!

Cons: Nothing that I have seen so far

Review: This has been a great addition to the things I use to keep my system clean.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

quick set, up, benifiet of huge user bases experience

Pros: quick set, up, benifiet of huge user bases experience

Cons: no problems with this easy to use software

Review: As this software learns from it's huge user base it is extrodinrly accurate. It alows a Spam folder to review and if every month or so misplaces a borderline E-mail it learns not to do so right away.
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Sometimes the best technology is the very simplest!

Pros: No false positives, so no need to review all your Spam to find "real" messages that are miscategorized

Cons: Monthly fees

Review: Cloudmark is an awesome solution for the company that cannot afford to miss a single "real" email due to a false positive. Cloudmark has less features than most algorithmic based solutions because it needs less features, largely as a result of the fact that they harness the discretion of their user base to determine what's Spam and what isn't, so don't let the feature based reviews fool you - it's truly a different type of product, and comparing it feature by feature to algorithm based products is like comparing a tablet to a word processor and noting that it doesn't have spellcheck.

Instead of requiring the user to "fiddle" to get some sort of software algorithm to work that tries to decide what's Spam and what isn't, the Cloudmark system works on a simple premise: If you and I and Joe all get the same exact email, and you and I mark it as Spam, it's Spam when Joe get's it - and not just our Joe, but all the other Joes and Janettes out there too. Since you and I are a lot smarter than a computer process about what email we asked for and what we didn't, no matter how tricksy the spammers get, as long as they send the same email to multiple recipients theres a real good chance that someone else has marked it as Spam before it gets to you - and you'll never see it.

But an email from someone else that is real - even if it has all the same words and phrases in it as a Spam message does - is never marked as Spam before it gets to you, because it only goes to you.

There is something truly beautiful about something so simplistic that works so well!
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Great job of detecting and handling spam.

Pros: Does not generate false positives.

Cons: Not 100% perfect.

Review: While the software is not a product but a service, it perfroms admirably by consistently eliminating 99% of all spam messges, e.g. only lets 1 thru per about 100 spam messages.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

Excellent product

Pros: Stops nearly all spam with almost no falses

Cons: Occasional spam that it just refuses to stop no matter hjow many times you flag it

Review: I get about 100 spams a day (I was very sloppy with my email address back in the day), and Cloudmark is nearly flawless at flagging them. Performance is great, I can check other emails while it is processing unlike some other products. There are one or two spams it just won't stop no matter what I do, but overall this is a great product for a great price.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 24 user reviews

daverubindelray

Pros: Easy to use and does not miss spam

Cons: A little pricey

Review: Good product.

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