Panasonic TH-42PX50U
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"Very Good Picture - Excellent Price" on by benjaminkessler
Pros: Great picture, excellent value, easy setup
Cons: Not a great looking set (until you turn it on!), no PIP, slow channel changing, limited customization, only 1 HDMI input
Summary: I went into Circuit City to purchase a 37" Sharp Aquos but came out with this 42" Panasonic. The store's Sharp floor model was already defective (the 37d5u model is new) and scared me away from a TV that was $600 more expensive than this 42" plasma.
The new Panasonic "budget-line" HD plasmas offer a better picture quality than the previous Panasonic HD generation. I understand that the previous Panasonic HD plasmas are currently being phased out for this line as well as an upcoming upscale HD line which will include PIP and SD card slots as well as, presumably, a greater level of customization and perhaps more input options. Besides the 37" Sharp LCD, the Pioneer 4350HD was also a contender on my HD shopping spree. According to many online posts, problems of quality have plagued both Sharp and Pioneer. While I had liked the more solid reputation of Panasonic, their offerings as of a couple months ago did not (in my opinion) compete based on my particular criteria. I was particularly scared by the CNET review of the previous Panasonic generations in which they noted the lack of 2:3 pulldown technology. Having been assured that this had been provided in the new line of HD Panasonics, I put the screen on my list.
About my experience and impressions: First impressions were not too favorable, mostly due to an overall exterior aesthetic which I think is lacking. While the Pioneer is sleek and piano black, and the Sharp has a stainless-steel like modern precision about it and seems to be high quality from the outside, the Panasonic is a little plasticy for my taste.
But at the end of the day, it's what is inside that matters most, and the Panasonic shines. The picture on the floor at Circuit City seemed a bit contrasty, but after playing with the picture, brightness, and sharpness settings I became convinced that it was an adjustable problem.
Note: the Panasonic display in Best Buy seemed to have problems with Best Buy's wire feed, and there was a persistent problem with the signal every 15 seconds or so that caused a boxing up of the digital signal. Every Panasonic in Best Buy had this problem. I don't know if this is just my local store, or if it is a systemic compatibility with Best Buy's image feed. This problem was not present at Circuit City and has not been at home.)
I ended up going with the Panasonic because of I felt it had a picture quality which is at the top of the line when viewed against the competing 42" and 37" products. Although the Pioneer's coloration is more to my liking, somehow the Panasonic's image seemed more sharp and less "screen-doorish". It also didn't hurt that it was a good deal less expensive and potentially more reliable. As previously noted, the 37" Sharp Aquos, although very impressive for an LCD set, seems to have quality issues. According to the salesman on the floor, the Aquos had been in for service already due to some sort of filter which broke and resulted in a very blurry and disconcerting image. According to him, Sharp wouldn't cover the problem under warranty, and Circuit City's service department did not/could not fix the problem. Not too confidence-building. It is of note that I purchased the set in-store as opposed to from an online vendor because I was very cautious after reading so many online postings of the potential defects that seem to exist with every set. I wanted the security of having a 30-day trial period, and being able to easily return or exchange a set if need be. The price premium, while potentially substantial, is well worth it in my mind.
Anyway, as I weighed the pros and cons of the sets I was looking at, the Panasonic became the lead contender. I was able to knock $200 off the $3,149 advertised price, and I purchased a $550 extended warranty through Circuit City, bringing the total to about $3,500, still less than either the 37" Sharp and the 43" Pioneer before warranty. I threw in two wireless controllers for my X-box, as well as an X-box component cable, and I was off home for a test drive of the new set.
The Panasonic is a versatile and well-rounded set. Setup was simple and straightforward. The stand was easy to put together, and the screen is able to be mounted and moved with two relatively competent and careful individuals. A language selection and clock-setting ritual occurs when the set is first powered on. The set is overall quiet; if there's a fan in the set, I can't hear it. The remote control is logically laid out, and the on-screen menu, while relatively spartan, is nonetheless very user friendly. I found myself able to adeptly navigate the menu, and was quickly fittering away at the picture adjustments. The set comes with three factory picture settings: Vivid, Standard, and Cinema, all of which are customizable. While vivid was too bright and cartoonish for my tastes, I found cinema to be murky and somewhat colorless. The "Standard" setting was very good, although I found bringing the sharpness down to 0 to be beneficial in bringing a little more realism to what looked like an overly digitized and overly sharp image.
The speaker which runs along the bottom of the screen is one of my biggest objections to the overall package. Firstoff, it is not detachable, which I think would be a beneficial attribute. The sound which comes from it is inadequate, but I suppose that is true of any integral speaker, and as such I do not fault it. I just like the look and utility of side-mounted and detachable speakers better, and wish that Panasonic had pursued this route with their new set. The speaker housing itself could also be improved upon, as its plasticy silver housing and screen when combined with the plasticy black display surround just seems a little... well... plasticy. But once again, this is a matter of personal taste.
I must admit that I am one of the last holdouts with cable/satellite telivision, and so I cannot speak about how it displays digital or HD cable. But I felt more than justified when I tested out the integrated HD tuner and found that, while it does not excel with analog television, the HD content offered by CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, and PBS, when available, is superb. PBS documentaries are absurdly lifelike. The basketball play-offs on ABC were spectacular, with the wood grain of the basketball court rendered in detail, and every player looking like they were in the room. My only gripe with the television tuner is the slow channel changing. I'm not sure why it does this, but there's a second or two second pause while changing channels, and the channel number does not display on the screen until the new channel comes up. This makes for a slow and rather exasperating channel changing process - but perhaps there is something I am doing incorrectly?
DVD and X-box games are equally satisfying. While DVD obviously lacks the definition of HD, the Panasonic handled Spiderman 2 with pinache, with smooth rendering of Tobey Maguire swinging among the skyscrapers in NYC, and an overall crisp and satisfying picture. X-box games like Halo2 and Splinter Cell are phenomenal: bright, crisp, and faultless in motion and detail.
Overall, the Panasonic is an excellent and well-rounded 42" plasma. Setup was easy, and the picture customization options, while somewhat limited, are more than enough for my relatively straight-forwad requirements. Foregoing PIP is no great loss, and as a complete package the Panasonic shines. And while I haven't yet warmed to the overall look of the set, once it's turned on, all other aesthetic shortcomings are quickly forgiven and forgotten. For anyone looking for a quality display at a reasonable price, I would highly recommend this set. -
"INCREDIBLE picture. Unbeatable price. Hands down best value around." on by betaclone
Pros: Great image quality. Perfect price.
Cons: Speakers are so-so. Not the most beautiful set on the market.
Summary: I work in television post-production and I see programming and commercials on professional HD monitors every day, the way they're supposed to look, and I can say absoultely that the Panasonic is the closest to those monitors you can find on the consumer level. The picture on this set will make your jaw drop. I researched plasma sets for about 6 months before making the purchase and I didn't see a single consumer model that came close, not even on sets that cost $1-2000 more. I've read reviews that say that it loses details in the blacks and has issues with color decoding, but I haven't seen anything to support that. If anything, the Panasonic has the best black details and most vivid color of any set I've seen. And the price is easily the most attractive feature - I found it at J&R ready to pickup for $2500. There just isn't a television on the market that compares with this quality and value. On the downside, the speakers aren't the best - bust just like everyone else says, why would you buy a $3000 HDTV and not drop an extra $300 on a good receiver? I personally have a Harman Kardon 7.1 receiver and with this set and my free HD cable DVR box I may never leave my living room again. ONE TIP: Spring for an HDMI cable if your cable box supports it. You don't have to go all out on the $150 Monster Cable one either...a digital cable is a digital cable. You should be able to find a 6-foot generic one for $50. And the quality difference between that and a component hook-up is unbelievable. Imagine the audio difference between RCA and Digital Coax. Apples and oranges.
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"Offering fantastic picture quality and a good set of features, this plasma is an outstanding value." on by Markn1458
Pros: Picture is vivid with great detail, colors are saturated and accurate with no red push, connectivity and feature set that will suffice for most users.
Cons: Lacks certain connections and features that some may want, the bottom speaker can not be removed, arguably not as good looking as the models from Pioneer.
Summary: A couple months ago when I decided to make the jump and buy a High-Definition set, I first decided to research everything I could about High-Definition and the different kinds of sets that are available. I looked at CRTs, Rear Projection sets, Micro-displays such as DLP, LCD, and LCOS, and flat panel LCDs and Plasmas. In the end nothing came close to the picture quality and value of the Panasonic TH-42PX50U.
Compared with many other Plasma panels out, the Panasonic is a pretty typical looking panel. In my opinion it looks good sporting a black border, silver bottom-mounted speaker, and a depth of about 4 inches. However, I would say that the Pioneer consumer models are better looking with their glossy black finish and even smaller depth. The included table stand isn't great but can be easily removed for wall mounting. The sound from the bottom speker is alright, but to truly experience movies and especially games in surround sound, you should really use a 5.1 home theater system.
The TH-42PX50U has adequate connectivity, with 2 S-video, 2 component video, and an HDMI input. Also on the back is an optical audio output so you can get digital 5.1 surround sound. However, seeing as many products now and in the future will be using HDMI (such as cable and satellite boxes, next generation gaming consoles, and HD-DVD, Blu Ray, and up-converting DVD players) it would have been nice if it would of had 2 HDMI inputs like the new Phillips and Pioneer models. Also absent from the set is a PC input and memory card reader, which may be a definite downside for those trying to use the set as a huge PC monitor or who want to view pictures on it. Also lacking on the set is Picture in Picture. These features are available on the new TH-42PX500U which costs $4000.
While standard definition tv isn't really what this set was meant for, it doesn't look terrible on it. Using digital cable will give you a noticably better picture though. Using an HDMI equipped DVD player that scales my movies to 1080i, DVDs such as Lord of the Rings and Finding Nemo look really good. Detail in DVDs is noticably better than with regular 480p players and comes close to HDTV levels. For about $150 if you like movies its a great piece of hardware to buy. Gaming using Xbox connected with componetnt cables and optical audio makes playing Halo 2, Madden, and Forza truly an experience. Thus far burn-in has not been evident at all and shouldn't be a problem on this set at all as long as it isn't left on over night or for a really extended period of time.
However, HDTV is what this set was really meant for, and it does a spectacular job with it. The picture is extremly sharp and vivid with awesome detail. Unlike with some other sets that I viewed such as the Hitachi 42HDT51, the Panasonic has no red push at all. Thanks to the sets ability to display 8.58 billion colors, reds, blues, and especially greens are all supurb, even matching the color on the Pioneer PDP-4350. Compared to the Sharp 37D7U LCD and even the Sony 42XS955 plasma, the Panasonic's colors are much richer and more saturated. Even though the Sharp's resolution of 1366 x 768 is higher than the Panasonic's 1024 x 768, HDTV looks better on the Panasonic in my opinion thanks to the superior colors and deeper blacks. Blacks on the set are good for a plasma, however blacks on the Panasonic TH-42PD50U EDTV are deeper as they often are on the lower resolution EDTVs. However, detail is better on the PX50U and you also don't get the "screen-door effect" as you do on the EDTV. Contrary to what many people say, I found 1080i to look a bit better on the set than 720p, possibly because the set converts all signals to 1080i. But watching Sportscenter on ESPN HD and the Baseball All Star game on FOX HD, both in 720p, the picture was outstanding and the differnce between the 2 standards is nearly impossible to see.
To get my high definition stations I use a CableCard, with cable from Service Electric. While you can't order on-demand shows or use the on screen programming guide, the Card does have some strong advantages. It is a little cheaper to rent the Card as opposed to the box ($2.99 compared to $9.99 a month for the box),you don't have to make room for the box in your home-theater setup which is a nice advantage in my case, and you don't have to use the HDMI inuput with the cable box which frees it up for something else.
Overall, the Panasonic TH-42PX50U is an outstanding performer in all categories. It offers the best bang for the buck of any flat panel tv available today. While it may lack a couple of features that certain people may want, it makes up for it with its low price. Available on sale at a Best Buy or Circuit City for $3200 it is significantly cheaper than models such as the $4000, 37" Sharp 37D7U, $4000, 40" Samsung LNR408D, and $5000, Pioneer PDP-4350, and offers in my opinoin a better overall picture. The Panasonic TH-42PX50U is the first truly good Plasma HDTV to be JUST ABOUT affordable! -
"Excellent HD picture" on by kartik.jay
Pros: Super pic quality, HD is outstanding, SD is ok
Cons: Bad sound, some false contouring
Summary: Bought mine for under $3k at Circuit City on the Memorial Day weekend. Outsourced the setup to the home-theater installers, but I could see that it was mostly a breeze.
Comcast Motorola HD/DVR box is connected with a HDMI/DVI cable and Samsung DVD player is connected via Component Video. HD picture is truly stunning... 'Prisoner of Azkaban' on HBO HD, Jay Leno on NBC HD, 'The Last Samurai' on dvd, etc. show fantastic color and detail. In movies which have huge range of contrast and bright colors (such as 'SeaBiscuit') there is some visible false contouring though; which can be lowered by tweaking the brightness/sharpness/tint/color adjustments. The sound reproduction from tv is bad; however, I have an Onkyo SR602 receiver (connected to TV via Fiber-Optic cable), Infinity floor-standing front speakers and Bose surround satellites with a Velodyne DPS-10 subwoofer. Movies and Music videos (such as Eric Clapton unplugged DVD and Simon & Garfunkel - Concert at Central Park DVD) come alive & really rock in this home theater system.
Do not overlook the source though - I wish I had the DISH DVR 942 but they gave me a lousy HD upgrade deal (moreover I had to undergo addl pain to install OTA to get the local HD channels) and hence I churned to Comcast HD instead. HD looks stunning, SD looks nice but analog (yep, several channels in the Plano/TX area for Comcast are still in ugly analog) are TERRIBLE. DISH would hv been better but will probbly move back to Satellite when they get their MPEG4/AVC story in order.
All in all, this 42" Panny viewed from a range of 8' to 12' is excellent; offers truly unbeatable value for money. An extended warranty may still be a good investment on any plasma tv though. -
"Great looking TV, Bad Set" on by will177
Pros: Color is fantastic, great picture
Cons: Set died on me after the 5th day
Summary: I waited for a month from a local retailer to get this unit, it was on back order from Panasonic, there was also a waiting list for this unit. When I received the unit I was in love until 5 days later my unit one morning did not turn on. The power indicator flashed 10 times indicating it had problems. Called my retailer to return it and get another one, they were all out of stock. So I called Panasonic and they got a TV repair man to pick up my unit. I just was called today from the TV repair that Panasonic does not have the part to replace on the set, that it was on backorder without a specific date when it will arrive. What the heck is going on over there, it is very fustrating when you spend 3,250 on a nice set and for the past 2 months I only got to watch 5 days worth. I am feeling ripped off here, I am trying to give panasonic the benifit here but it's hard.