Prizefight (week of November 10)

Prizefight: Motorola Droid vs. Apple iPhone 3GS

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Prizefight: Motorola Droid vs. Apple iPhone 3GS

For many smartphone manufacturers and carriers, the Apple iPhone is the great, white elephant in the room. Though they might not want to acknowledge it, the iPhone has certainly changed the game and for better or worse, it's become the gold standard to which a lot of people compare other touch-screen phones. While most of the competition might be content to let their products speak for themselves, Verizon has made a bold move by singlehandedly calling out the iPhone and AT&T in its iDon't and "There's a map for that" TV commercials. While the ads have certainly been entertaining to watch, are they actually true? Did Motorola really create an earth-conquering smartphone in the Droid? Well, we decided to find out in our own Prizefight. Read on to see if the Motorola Droid can really take down the iPhone. 


Let's keep it clean, fellas. Ding ding!


Round 1: Sexiness

Design and looks count for a lot when you're shopping for a cell phone, so here's where we examine the look, size, feel, and sex appeal of the devices.
player Kent Brian Bonnie the winner
Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless)Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless) 5The Droid gets points for its slim profile and massive, gorgeous display. It's boxier than the iPhone, but I like how sturdy it feels in my hand. 4Awesome display, the highest resolution on a mobile phone I've seen. It's surprisingly thin, especially with its sliding QWERTY. The fat lip on the bottom...yuck and its square corners are its only blemishes. 4I'm a little torn here. On the one hand, the Droid's touch screen is absolutely gorgeous and you have to give credit to Motorola for creating such a thin device, especially with a full QWERTY keyboard. However, the design is a little blocky and industrial, which isn't particularly attractive. 4.3
Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T)Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T) 5The iPhone continues to be a sleek, attractive device. Other phones are gaining, but it holds its own for now. Compared with the Droid, I like the rounded edges and curved back. 5I'm not bored of it and the iPhone still is the sexiest and cleanest device on the planet. I just don't see that changing. 5This round is about sexiness, and though the iPhone's design hasn't changed much, I still can't deny that it's a simplistically beautiful device. 5

Round 2: Navigation

Sexiness is one thing, but are the devices easy to use? In Round 2, we examine the design and usability of the devices' user interface.
player Kent Brian Bonnie the winner
Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless)Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless) 4Thanks to its large display and Android 2.0, the Droid's touch-screen interface is responsive and user-friendly. On the other hand, I'm not such a fan of the touch controls below the display and I miss a dedicated calling button. Also, while I'm not going to add a point for the physical keyboard--I can take it or leave it--the Droid's keys are flat and slippery. 5A touch-screen, physical keyboard and navigation pad. What else could you want? No iPhone "pinching" is missed but Android OS makes sense, with a minimal learning curve. Love the pull-down for notifications. And Widgets for key services like access to turn on or off, GPS, and Wi-Fi are great. Android 2.0 makes it happen with more control overall. 5There's still a bit of "techiness" to the Android operating system, but you really have to appreciate the level of customization it offers. Plus, I think you get the hang of it pretty quickly. Also, while the Droid doesn't have the best keyboard, it is a physical keyboard and I can crank out messages way faster on the Droid than on the iPhone. 4.7
Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T)Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T) 5Even Apple haters have to admit that the iPhone is very easy to use. 5Still the easiest and most elegant OS to use. You realize that pinching is a subtle but killer feature. Accessing voice commands at anytime is great, too. There's no other OS that both my 3-year-old niece and I can use. 5Hey, let's be honest. The iPhone is drop-dead easy to use and you can't underestimate the value in that, especially from a consumer's perspective. 5

Round 3: Features

What do these phones offer under the hood? Here we examine the features in each device and rate which phone offers more.
player Kent Brian Bonnie the winner
Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless)Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless) 5The Droid offers a boatload of features and as Verizon's commercial reminds us, it has a few things the iPhone does not, such as a higher resolution camera with a flash and editing options, a removable battery, free navigation software, and better multitasking and customization. Even better, the Droid will beat the iPhone when it comes to tethering. 5All the key features are here. So what stands out? The Droid rocks the faster 3G EV-DO Rev. A, and its free built-in GPS turn-by-turn by Google Maps with voice search left me impressed. Exchange support and a unified mailbox for multiple accounts. Awesome. Plus, can you say multitasking? 5The Motorola Droid is packed with an amazing set of features. Android 2.0 brings native Exchange support, free turn-by-turn navigation via Google Maps, and better e-mail and contact management. Plus, you've got the openness of the Android OS, Verizon's EV-DO Rev. A network, and a user-replaceable battery. 5
Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T)Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T) 5The iPhone also packs in the features and I'm glad that I no longer have to complain about the lack of MMS. It also bests the Droid in a few ways: the sync with iTunes offers access to more video, the app selection (for now) is superior, and you can take it abroad. 4The App Store is more robust and enhances the iPhone's use exponentially. Exchange support here, too. Voice-over commands are actually used. Cut/copy/paste is better implemented. Google's GPS Navigation shows up the iPhone's, but it is said to be coming soon. 5While the iPhone lacks some of the features mentioned above, it counters with world-roaming capabilities and a more robust app catalog. Also, while we talk more about this in the next round, the Web browser and multimedia features have a slight edge over the Droid. Both phones have their pros and cons, so this round is a draw for me. 4.7

Round 4: Web browsing and multimedia

These handsets do a lot more than just make calls; they also have video and digital music players and Web browsers. We tell you which phone offers a better experience.
player Kent Brian Bonnie the winner
Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless)Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless) 4The Droid offers a great video and media player and access to the Amazon MP3 store. On the downside, it needs access to a full-fledged video store for buying and renting movies and TV content. Music quality is admirable, but video quality could be a tad better. 4Web browser is excellent. I like the icon-based faves and bookmarks, but it's a step below Safari. The 5-megapixel camera with flash shows up the iPhone. Amazon Marketplace is solid. Media player is very basic. You need to download a video player app, and the Droid chugged through standard MPEG-4 files that the iPhone played flawlessly. Drag-and-drop media syncing is crude. 4The Droid's Web browser is quite good, especially with the addition of visual bookmarks and simplified list view of open windows. However, I'd say it's still slightly behind the iPhone's Safari browser, particularly with the pinch-to-zoom feature. The smartphone is also very capable at multimedia, with a decent media player and the Amazon MP3 Store, but it doesn't quite offer the same seamless experience that the iPhone offers. Also, while it has a better camera than the iPhone, the picture quality certainly didn't reflect it. 4
Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T)Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T) 5Though you become a slave to iTunes, you're offered a better selection of media for playing on your iPhone. Music and video quality is excellent. 5Safari's still the best mobile browser. Media player also bests the Droid. Syncing with iTunes shines and access to content available from the iTunes Store is massive. Sites like CNN would display video content on iPhone, but failed on the Droid. Camera is not up to par, but video editing and uploading interface are both better. 5Something that sets the iPhone apart from the competition is its excellent Web browser. Honestly, this is the one thing I pine for. Of course, the iPhone also offers top-notch multimedia capabilities and performance. You have access to so much content, especially video, through iTunes, but of course, the drawback is that you are tied to iTunes. 5

Round 5: Call quality

Cell phones aren't worth much if they don't make good calls or can't keep up with your demands. In the final round, we check out the call quality of both devices.
player Kent Brian Bonnie the winner
Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless)Motorola Droid (Verizon Wireless) 5The Droid's call quality is excellent. The signal was always strong and the audio was loud and clear. 5Excellent call quality on both sides, reliable calls, better performing 3G network (and yes, I know its regional, but still a faster 3G even outside of San Francisco). Longer talk time and speakerphone sounds better. 5The call quality on the Droid is really impressive. Audio was incredibly clear, whether on regular calls or speakerphone calls. Also, there were no connectivity issues with Verizon. 5
Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T)Apple iPhone 3GS - 32GB - black (AT&T) 4The iPhone's call quality has improved as AT&T rolls out more spectrum; it still suffers from occasionally patchy sound and dropped calls. 3Call quality still an issue, with more echo and "What was that?" Dropped calls are still happening and 3G was more inconsistent. I made a call from the Droid to my iPhone right next to each other and the iPhone didn't even ring. 3The iPhone's call quality wasn't bad but there was definitely more background noise, and speakerphone calls had a slight echo. In addition, there were a couple of failed calls during my testing. 3.3

The winner is...

Apple iPhone 3GS

Motorola Droid
4.6

Apple iPhone 3GS

Apple iPhone 3GS
4.6

Tiebreaker: Rounds won
iPhone 3GS: 3
Motorola Droid: 2


Wow, and here we thought the iPhone versus Palm Pre Prizefight was close. After five intense rounds, both the Motorola Droid and iPhone 3GS wound up with the same number of points. Normally, our tiebreaker would be to score to the next hundredth of a point but since both phones score 4.6 even, the next tiebreaker is to choose the phone that won the most rounds. In this case, the iPhone won 3 and the Droid won 2, so the iPhone wins again.


However, this shouldn't be taken as a loss for the Droid or Verizon--quite the opposite. To come in and almost beat out the iPhone says something. As a number of readers have commented, this isn't about being an iPhone killer; it's about giving customers a choice, and it looks like the Droid is giving Verizon subscribers a fine one.

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Okay, the iPhone doesn't have a physical call button either. Just saying "the iPhone is very easy to use" doesn't exactly justify a 5; at least write 3 sentences or something that makes the iPhone sound better and more deserving of a 5.
Posted by Redlar (6 comments )
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I?m sure that these judges base their scores on how the two phones compare to each other not just how the phone scores by themselves, but I think that it?s interesting to compare how the judges opinions have change or remained the same since the last iphone 3gs prize fight against the palm pre earlier this year. Listed below is a summary of the iphone 3gs score and a brief description of the judge?s opinions for any section that didn?t score a 5.0. FYI ? Same three judges for both prizefights.

Round 1
Score: 4.3
Two scored it a 4 and one scored it a 5. Key quote from Bonnie, ?(iphone 3gs) . . . design is beginning to bore me.? I suppose its become interesting again in the past few months or maybe it just looks that good compared to the droid. I?ll let you decide.

Round 2 Navigation and Multitasking
Score: 4.0
Key complaint was the lack of the iphone 3gs multitasking.

Round 3 Features
Score: 4.3
This isn?t really comparable any longer as the main complaints with the 3gs were lack of mms, tethering, and turn by turn navigation. I know mms has been added since then and we?re still waiting on tethering, but I?m not sure about the TBT navigation.

Round 4 Web Browsing and Multimedia
Score 5.0

Round 5 Call Quality
Score: 4.0
Reason is obvious. Again perhaps the call quality has gotten worse or just seems worse compared to the droid. Again, I?ll let everybody fight this one out.
Posted by jwilson61904 (53 comments )
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I?m sure that these judges base their scores on how the two phones compare to each other not just how the phone scores by themselves, but I think that it?s interesting to compare how the judges opinions have change or remained the same since the last iphone 3gs prize fight against the palm pre earlier this year. Listed below is a summary of the iphone 3gs score and a brief description of the judge?s opinions for any section that didn?t score a 5.0. FYI ? Same three judges for both prizefights.

Round 1
Score: 4.3
Two scored it a 4 and one scored it a 5. Key quote from Bonnie, ?(iphone 3gs) . . . design is beginning to bore me.? I suppose its become interesting again in the past few months or maybe it just looks that good compared to the droid. I?ll let you decide.

Round 2 Navigation and Multitasking
Score: 4.0
Key complaint was the lack of the iphone 3gs multitasking.

Round 3 Features
Score: 4.3
This isn?t really comparable any longer as the main complaints with the 3gs were lack of mms, tethering, and turn by turn navigation. I know mms has been added since then and we?re still waiting on tethering, but I?m not sure about the TBT navigation.

Round 4 Web Browsing and Multimedia
Score 5.0

Round 5 Call Quality
Score: 4.0
Reason is obvious. Again perhaps the call quality has gotten worse or just seems worse compared to the droid. Again, I?ll let everybody fight this one out.
Posted by jwilson61904 (53 comments )
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In fact, the first time a friend of mine used an iPhone to make a call, he couldn't figure out how to get back to the dial pad to enter his account number (he was calling his bank's on-line service number.) The fact that you have to do so much navigation on the iPhone call screen is a definite -1 in my book.
Posted by tomxp411 (4 comments )
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grab an iPhone and play a bit with its OS and you'll see there's not too much else to say about its intuitiviness, it's just as simple as that phrase, really.
Posted by itsnah (9 comments )
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I agree. It seems like they were trying to make it look like they were not bias toward the I phone by making it a tie. But it is almost obvious that they are. But "The iPhone is very easy to use" Does not justify a 5
Posted by TristanMAC1 ( comments )
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the most interesting part of this prizefight was that all three of the judges gave the Droid a better score for it's calling qualities. Both devices are, after all, mobile phones. I can't tell you guys how many times I have to continually call my bf on his iphone until the phone ACTUALLY rings. I've even done that while sitting next to him and the iphone doesn't ring or vibrate. For me call quality would be most important, then the rest.
Now if I can some how get out of my T-Mobile contract and head on over to Verizon...hmmm...
Posted by mb00 (14 comments )
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Amen! Last week's debacle was the last straw for T-mobile....even if I'm paying 1/3 less than the other two...t
Posted by gfritts451 (11 comments )
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Is the "call quality" category really the phones being tested, or their carriers? I think common wisdom (at least where I live) is that Verizon has noticably better service than AT&T. It'd be interesting to see that round again with both phones on the same network (impossible now, but maybe in the future...).
Posted by monopod1 (81 comments )
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And the best part.....many people think its the iPhone that has the problem. Other people on ATT dont have nearly as many issues with their Blackberries, etc that the iPhone has. Coverage is one thing, but dropped calls/unreceived calls are another.

Also, is the iPhone a good looking device, yeah. But c'mon, its a simple piece of plastic with a fake chrome ring. There is nothing to it. Its nice, and minimalistic. But thats it. The Droid is made of metal and glass. It actually has some shape to it, and has a look to it. Its not boring. Looks are all subjective, but giving an iPhone a perfect score for this was kinda weak on your part Cnet.

And once again. Everyone gets on every other phone maker for not having a syncing system like iTunes for their phones. Palm got the Pre to sync with iTunes, but then Apple blocked it(which they have every right to do). But why not mention any other music management system that will sync anything and everything? You have Media Monkey, Winamp, WMP, Songbird,etc. Media Monkey syncs everything from my iPod, to my Cowon, Sansa clip, G1, my brothers iTouch, to my wife's Blackberry, and my old Windows Mobile phones. Why not mention that? What do you want, them to bundle some garbage media mgmt program that will be a throwaway anyhow? Its just one more way for you guys to give Apple a leg up, and its unfortunate because there are so many other options.

You guys do a great job on most of your products. But the clear bias for anything Apple is getting tiresome(that and the dumb adds that pop up before I get to your site). I refuse to put any weight on any of your reviews and prizefights that have anything Apple related. Apple makes great products, but step back a little and see how things really are. The world looks amazing when you arent looking at it through Jobs eyes. There are sometimes better options out there.
Posted by kasrhp1 (30 comments )
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Actually, I was going to go the other way on this one. The call quality is largely dependent on the carrier and so that is basically comparing Verizon with AT&T. If and when Verizon gets the iPhone, it will basically kick the Droid's butt completely. I'm surprised the limitations of Verizon's network weren't mentioned like simultaneous calling and data usage.
Posted by myles taylor (3848 comments )
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I know I feel they do that on purpose when its obvious they dont want to look they are iphone biased
Posted by someguy101 (23 comments )
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I thought carriers were willing to pay for that fee so they could suck you into there network?
Posted by carbine68 (78 comments )
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Actually, the this was the least fair rating of all. If the call quality is not due to the iPhone, but due to AT&T's service it sways the entire final tally *significantly*.
Posted by blusky08 (537 comments )
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Gotta remember just because his phone doesn't ring, doesn't mean it's the phone. Can be his network, your network, or even your phone. I have several friends with iPhones and never have encountered that problem
Posted by mdb0790x (1 comment )
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I've had 3 phones on AT&T's network: My first phone, a motorola clamshell phone, had the best sound on a call (and the fewest dropped calls.) The second, an HTC smartphone, was not as good... the iPhone has the WORST signal and audio quality out of the three... and its WiFi antenna often won't get a signal where my laptop shows 3 bars of signal.
Posted by tomxp411 (4 comments )
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As someone currently looking at all of the carriers/options, here are my problems with this latest iPhone/Droid comparison (and all others so far):

1) WEIGHTING - There seems to be too little weighting given to the call quality / reliability / coverage factor. This is still primarily a PHONE, yes? It's not a music player / gaming device that just happens to also allow the owner to make calls. Form factors, sexy UI's, and 10-bazillion apps are all nice and good. Likewise, "world phone" capabilities are nice for the 5% of us that "travel the world" and Google Maps is great for those of us w/o GPS but, if I can't get a reliable signal in my house, or calls drop on my weekly commute across the state or the network goes down for 1/2 a day (e.g. T-mobile last week) then there's a problem.

Based on reviews and first hand accounts, I'm strongly leaning towards Verizon here....how many cnet editor rants have there been regarding the iPhone / AT&T relationship in the last year? Sorry, but the fact that you can only use the iPhone on AT&T's network is a big sticking point for me right now...especially coming from Sprint and T-mobile. I want reliable coverage in the US first and foremost.

2) VALUE - I don't think I've seen any reviewer in conjunction with their comparison also factor in the plan costs. I've been comparing all 4 carriers using the following assumptions: "Family" plan with 2 smartphones, data + text, 3000/unlimited minutes, visual voicemail. Surprisingly, even with my substantial corporate discount, a comparable AT&T plan is going to be $40/mo more than Verizon thanks to the $30/line data and $15/line text. Over a minimum time period of 24 months, that amounts to a whopping $960 more......
Posted by gfritts451 (11 comments )
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@gfritts451 - WEIGHTING - There seems to be too little weighting given to the call quality / reliability / coverage factor.

I completely agree. I don't understand how the iPhone gets a 3 from two judges when both state that the phone "fails" to ring or "failed to call" in their test cases. To me, 3 is an average score from a 1-5 scale. Is ATT so bad that even a failed call qualifies for an "average" score? We must be spoiled at VZW that our calls actually go through when we press the send button.
Posted by bmccorm2 (77 comments )
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I don't think that the phone calls are the most important. During the day I use my iPhone for probably 20 minutes of phone calls and a few hours of everything else. They call it a phone, but that is just another feature of the device.

Call quality all depends on where you live. I've lived in places where Verizon gets horrible coverage and AT&T is king. Right now, I'm in So Cal and I have zero issues with call quality on AT&T. Too much is made of that.
Posted by Gregorio02 (1 comment )
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I think you're missing the point of what a 'smart phone' is. If your major concern is just having a 'phone' then there is no need to be looking at the droid or iphone.

These devices are for customers who are looking for phones that can do it all, and do it all efficiently. With that said, the device serving as a 'phone' is only one slice of a large pie. So ultimately it depends on what your priorities are.

Though you hear many people complain about AT&T's service, the amount of people who own iphones is staggering. The reason is exactly what the CNET editors stated in the prize fight. The iphone is still the best looking and most easily usable device out of all the smart phones. With the app store included, it makes the iphone's capabilities almost limitless as far as software.

I sell luggage for a living. Just about every bag we carry in the store has a pullout handle and wheels (that's the basic phone metaphor) but its the extra features and look that define who buys a Tumi versus a Hartmann versus a Victorinox bag. Same metaphor goes for cars.

It all depends on what you want to get out of your phone in the end.
Posted by Sryche22 (75 comments )
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For the last 10+ years I have been a Verizon customer. I've loved the service, and they were alway quick to help me with any problem I ever ran across (which wasn't that often to be honest). I've had blackberry devices in one form or another for the past 5 years. However, I've had iPhone envy for the past two years. I bought a touch when they came out and I couldn't believe how nice the interface was. Then the app store kicked off and it became a totally different device. I held out hope that eventually the iPhone would make its way over to Verizon, but it just never happened. After this latest advertising blitz (which was very effective I might add) bashing the iPhone by Verizon and Motorola, I'm not sure it ever will come to Verizon. As a restul, I walked into Best Buy two days ago and purchased myself a brand new 32gig iPhone. Now, if the 3g coverage is bad in your area, I understand your concern. For me though, I have great coverage everywhere around here (Central FL). Furthermore, I was never able to get a cell signal in my house with Verizon, and I was just sure it was a result of the way our house was laid out. However, now with my shiny new iPhone, I get 3 bars while sitting on my couch. So now I'm going to save even more money because we don't need the land line anymore. So a quick price breakdown ovf the two phones...
Verizon Blackberry connected to BES
calling plan 39.99 a month for 400 minutes...on the website so go check it out...
DATA plan required with blackberry was 60 bucks a monht roughly...they've changed this now - you have to get unlimited data in order to connect to BES with Verizon - I'm hearing they have similar charges now with Droid for connecting to just plain ol' exchange)
Text messages were 10 bucks for 250
These aren't completely accurate numbers since the plans have changed on teh verizon webiste and I can't pull them up anymore..but they haven't changed all that much. Go to the website and you'll see. The bottom line is my monthly bill with my wife on the plan with a blackberry as well (not connected to BES so she could get lower data plan) came to just at 210 bucks. Regardless of how you want to look at that, I was paying over 100 bucks a month for my one phone after tax. My iphone is going to cost me about 75 with all the same services and minutes etc. When you factor in that I can now cancel my land line now that I get cell reception in my house...well, the nubers certainly don't work out as you've posted above.

To all the haters, just try using the iPone and the Droid side by side. You'll come around I'm sure.

p.s. Have you actually held the Droid? It's an ugly brick by anyone's standards.

Everyone has their opinion, I know. For me personally, nothing comes close to the iPhone.
Posted by boone51 (39 comments )
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It actually costs the same to run an iPhone on AT&T or a Droid on Verizon. $149.99 for the 3000 minutes on both lines, $60 for two data packages and $30 for unl. fam texting. With AT&T that is the price at least and I'm fairly certain that its the same at Verizon. What price did you have for them? Lower than $279.99?
Posted by andykatz14 (1 comment )
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Keep in mind that CNET is located in San Fran. From what I hear ATT is terrible in San Fran. But in other areas the iphone works flawless. I have Verizon and the droid. Pretty interesting device and call quality is the most important for me since my business relies on it.

I play with my wifes Itouch and the thing is still pretty impressive when i compare it to my droid. The itouch just works period. Open source is awesome though, I had a WinMo and that thing was so cracked and hacked it was awesome. I am hoping to do the same for my droid.
Posted by carbine68 (78 comments )
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Add in the fact that you can dial though Google voice using the android platform. Google voice is still not allowed. I just came back from Verizon to pick up my Droid and I am on a $59.99 plan + $29.99 unlimited data plan. This plan includes friends and family. My first friend will be my Google voice number. The Droid/Android Platform will dial out using google voice and receive calls using google voice. So basically I am getting unlimited Text, Voice, Web for $89.99/mo!! What a steal!
Posted by rtuinenburg (154 comments )
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On the other hand, consider this is not a network comparison but a device comparison. The call quality/reliability should have been left out of the prizefight for two solid reasons: 1) AT&T's network quality is highly dependent on the region you live within the US -in lots of cities AT&T's 3G speed is much higher than Verizon's, plus only on AT&T can you talk while accessing the internet and have free access to their network of wifi hotspots. 2) For the rest of the world AT&T is not even an issue.

In other words, lets compare the phones and then let each one compare their local networks. You say you don't travel much; couldn't that be the same argument of someone with excellent local AT&T coverage?

Plan costs are dependent on what you want and any comparison could turn out to be rather complex, but I agree with you that it must be done, but on an individual basis.
Posted by jz1492 (4 comments )
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By my numbers, AT&T is cheaper by about $10-15... both carriers require you to pay for data on each device that needs it, and Verizon charges more for their data and messaging plans. Right now, the cheapest service is probably T-Mobile, but I wasn't especially happy with their coverage when I had them (about 4 years ago.)
Posted by tomxp411 (4 comments )
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As someone currently looking at all of the carriers/options, here are my problems with this latest iPhone/Droid comparison (and all others so far):

1) WEIGHTING - There seems to be too little weighting given to the call quality / reliability / coverage factor. This is still primarily a PHONE, yes? It's not a music player / gaming device that just happens to also allow the owner to make calls. Form factors, sexy UI's, and 10-bazillion apps are all nice and good. Likewise, "world phone" capabilities are nice for the 5% of us that "travel the world" and Google Maps is great for those of us w/o GPS but, if I can't get a reliable signal in my house, or calls drop on my weekly commute across the state or the network goes down for 1/2 a day (e.g. T-mobile last week) then there's a problem.

Based on reviews and first hand accounts, I'm strongly leaning towards Verizon here....how many cnet editor rants have there been regarding the iPhone / AT&T relationship in the last year? Sorry, but the fact that you can only use the iPhone on AT&T's network is a big sticking point for me right now...especially coming from Sprint and T-mobile. I want reliable coverage in the US first and foremost.

2) VALUE - I don't think I've seen any reviewer in conjunction with their comparison also factor in the plan costs. I've been comparing all 4 carriers using the following assumptions: "Family" plan with 2 smartphones, data + text, 3000/unlimited minutes, visual voicemail. Surprisingly, even with my substantial corporate discount, a comparable AT&T plan is going to be $40/mo more than Verizon thanks to the $30/line data and $15/line text. Over a minimum time period of 24 months, that amounts to a whopping $960 more......
Posted by gfritts451 (11 comments )
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This was totally a fair prizefight loved it.
Posted by eshn (11 comments )
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Yeah but I dont agree with the tiebreak.... somehow iPhone always has to win :S.

Anyway this is one of the best PF
Posted by inflammable (105 comments )
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not really the judges are iphone users..
Posted by cidblunt (6 comments )
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Pretty clear that the killer combo here is the iPhone on Verizon. It is strange to me that Apple doesn't realize that.... If they had loosened their grip a little and let Verizon users get iPhones, the Droid would be an afterthought, and Apple would have cornered consumer smartphones for the next 5 years like iPods cornered MP3 players the last 5.
Posted by mhatter13 (19 comments )
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iPhone, on Verizon, with a slide-out QWERTY keypad... The "Apple iPhone Slide".
Posted by SX10 IS (409 comments )
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Well Apple first offered the iPhone to verizion and Verizon turned it down. The problem is the VZW has their own music, app, and navigation. It's surprising that VZW did not junk up the Droid with all of there crappy stuff. Luckily on the droid you can use the google app store which only has like 12k apps : ( ! There is pretty much no hope of a Verizon Wireless iPhone for a long time although there is a rumors of a Apple Device on the VZW. So for now you'll have to settle with Google's Android!
Posted by mac_man_123 (1 comment )
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Steve Jobs went to Verizon first. They turned him down, so he went to AT&T. Not Apple's fault there-Verizon just didn't want to give up control.
Posted by texasags (64 comments )
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Apple originally went to Verizon to be their sole provider, but they refused b/c Apple wanted too much control.........boy did that knock Verizon on it's ass! Verizon may have more available 3G coverage, but I'd take an iPhone over the Droid any day! It's still amazes me that manufacturers and carriers have had over two years to try and one-up the iPhone, yet the best they've been able to do is get close. The good thing for iPhone owners/lovers is that all of the extra competition is going to really push Apple to release a much improved iPhone next Spring! I can't wait to see what they come up with! I would also like to note, that AT&T does suck for 3G coverage, but when you do have 3G, it's much faster than Verizon. Maybe AT&T is waiting on the LTE network to rollout so their neglecting the 3G coverage? Who knows. I have great coverage in Charlotte and surrounding areas, so I have no complaints!
Posted by stickyd (19 comments )
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Not many people know this, but Apple went to Verizon first to offer them the original iPhone. Verizon declined because they like to be the ones in charge of their phones, and Apple wouldn't let them have a say in what made it and what didn't into the final production iPhone. Apple then went to Cingular, which became AT&T by the time the iPhone was released. Cingular/AT&T had a smaller user base and less coverage than Verizon, but it was still (and remains today) to be the second largest carrier in the US. AT&T gained millions of customers solely due to the iPhone, including me. Verizon recently realized their mistake and are now loosening their grip on the phones that work on their network. Your result is, the Droid. While the Droid has is strengths, particularly hardware-wise, it still falls short to the iPhone in the software department with a lackluster application store and a disappointing media player. I'm sure Verizon would love to carry the iPhone 3GS and future versions, and so would I! When AT&T and Verizon roll out their LTE networks, we may see an iPhone 4G on both carriers.
Posted by csoccer1 (109 comments )
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It's not that Apple hasn't thought of marketing the iPhone to other cell service carriers. The unfortunate fact is: Apple has contractual obligations towards AT&T, making it so that AT&T is the only carrier legally allowed to give service to iPhones. That's why the original iPhones are so ridiculously expensive on eBay and the like: because people could take out the SIM cards and put in cards from another carrier, like Verizon or T-Mobile. After AT&T realized people were doing this, they made Apple redesign the phone so that you couldn't take out the SIM card, making it so that you had no choice but to pay them over $2000 dollars over a couple of years. Apple, from what I've read, has been trying to get out of this contract for years because of the incomprehensible profits of multiple service carriers to the iPhone. If they're able to get out of the contract, it will be much harder for other smart phones to break into the market because of the amazing design and engineering of the iPhone. I hope I helped clear some things up.
Posted by QuickTips (1 comment )
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One reason, CDMA. Its a dead technology that even Verizon is moving away from. We think to US centric, even with all Verizon's subscribers its a very small part of the over all world GSM population.
Posted by Staszek (79 comments )
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i do agree that iphone should come to verizon...so i can get one! but ipod are going to rule as long as steve jobs is with apple.
Posted by lowcarbonlife ( comments )
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I could not agree with your comment more! You are 100% correct!!
Posted by LMacNeill (15 comments )
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Apple is still under contract with AT&T and can't offer the Iphone to another carrier until 2010. They actually asked Verizon before AT&T and Verizon turned them down, not wanting to give up too much control of their phones to Apple. It looks like Verizon has finally learned their lesson in the control department with the Droid - making it so much more open and not insisting that Verizon programs be put on the phone. I agree that a Verizon/Apple partnership would definitely corner the smartphone market.
Posted by Christina11 (39 comments )
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I think number of rounds won is a poor way of settling a tie. The iPhone scores a 3.3 in the most important category. I don't think any phone that is a 3.3 in call quality is a winner. I do agree with the scores handed out.
Posted by bb7250 (5 comments )
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That is 100% the point. A phone should do the job of clear, reliable calls first, and all the extra features are a bonus. What is the point of a multi-use device if it can't do it's primary job? The Droid can make calls and has added features. If you want an Apple and *need* a reliable phone, but an IPod Touch and get a cheap flip phone; you'll be sure to get your calls.
Posted by Stormward (11 comments )
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agreed although for me, the droid is the winner. after all, we are comparing PHONES and, call me crazy, bur for me call quality/signal is most important with features coming in at a close second. for that matter, might as well just get an ipod touch.
Posted by iroq321 (148 comments )
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Even more crazy. Go back and look how they settled the pre-iPhone tie, by hundredths of a point. Why didn't they do that here? Cauz Brian is way too biased to Apple. personal opinion of course
Posted by trowa50 (20 comments )
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The most important category in a phone battle... is the overall quality of the phones themselves. You may not realize it, but the iPhone is available on contract in Europe to almost all mobile carriers their, most of which sell the iPhone unlocked or even for free. That is why call quality (basically which network is better) isn't that important overall if there are billions across the Atlantic who can use the iPhone on whatever network they want.
Posted by csoccer1 (109 comments )
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It strikes me that, apart from the call quality round, the features would have been a draw save for one point. And I'm not so sure I agree with that 4. I've read, but am not sure about this: does verizon charge for visual voicemail? is it true that verizon's 3g network doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data connections (e.g., can't be on the phone and checking movie showtimes)?
Posted by joeyzrtx (12 comments )
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Visual Voicemail is $2.99 month on the Droid from Verizon. I have the Droid and love it so far. ( I do not subscribe to Visual Voicemail at this time.)
Posted by CylonCheese (76 comments )
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Verizon charges $3.99 for visual voicemail per month. I'm not sure if the simultaneous voice and data connnection issues is a hardware vs network issue... Although hardware wise, the droid seems to be able to handle both simultaneously. Regardless, the speed of internet connections and the base google apps really impress... wish some of the iPod/iPhone apps were available on android like ePocrates.
Posted by yusakugo (2 comments )
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Both of those are incorrect. I have the Droid on Verizon and get free visual voicemail as well as simultaneous voice and data connections.
Posted by danjessberger (2 comments )
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Actually, with the Droid, the phone has a feature called Google Voice, which allows for not only voicemail, but you can have the message transcribed and emailed or texted to yourself. Also, the Droid DOES allow for simultaneous voice and data connections.
Posted by pagtcogic (9 comments )
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Yes this is true. Verizon does charge for visual voicemail. Reason is that it is an enhanced version of visual voicemail comparable to ATT's. As in more features, increased message storage and the ability to send importants voicemails via text and etc. I know this because I work for Verizon. (relatively new I might add) and I still have my iPhone. I'm sorry but ATT has not given me any reason to leave them. lol. But I have heard of complaints of people new being able to use data and voice at the same time but I have also heard vice versa, Being with VZW this year has made me realized that my company does pride itself in its network and that if this is an issue it will be correct asap. VZW is a better and more reliable comp. Sorry ATT, but its the truth.
Posted by Dsouthernflyboi ( comments )
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Verizon DOES charge for their Visual Voicemail ($2.99 a month), but you can get YouMail absolutely free in the Android Marketplace. Verizon's network does NOT allow for simultaneous voice and data -- but that's a limitation of the "flavor" of CDMA they've chosen to implement, not a restriction that Verizon places on their users because they're "stingy."
Posted by LMacNeill (15 comments )
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Big surprise the cnet apple fans pick the iphone. Didn't have to watch it to know the outcome.
Posted by JoelP6 (1 comment )
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Yup, I knew CNET would somehow make the iphone the winner, what a joke!
Posted by redsketch (15 comments )
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true that
Posted by Jartigas5 (32 comments )
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agree... clearly they have some sort of affiliation with apple...
Posted by cidblunt (6 comments )
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the iphone didn't even ring, nonetheless it's the winner lol
Posted by flipknoc (3 comments )
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Right...You can't use this phone as a phone, but It's good as a data/media/stylish device. Nice...lol. Cnet needs to accept that the iphone is still a phone and needs to be trailed at a phone, and not as this "great" device that can used as a phone lastly
Posted by derricob (12 comments )
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For a device that fails to do its most important and basic function and comes out on top is questionable. It's like giving a car an award for the best looks, most gadgets, but not caring that it breaks down 3 blocks away and sometimes doesn't start at all. Come it's a phone that barely works as a phone. When I call my brother or friends or send them a message they either get it a few days later or don't get it at all.
Posted by scottyrob (108 comments )
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Can't wait to pick up the Droid today.
Posted by Hiprocksoul (11 comments )
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There is definately an iPhone bias not only here but everywhere you turn. The iPhone is such a terrible phone i preferred to pay the extra money to get an iTouch and the HTC Touch Pro2 rather than get it all on the iPhone. I have had verizon for 5 years almost and i would never switch carriers. CNET is a nice site but I am sick of their bias reviews with the iPhone. I bring into question all other reviews. I might have to switch over to Consumer Reports, they don't sell adds which makes them much less bias when considering any review of any product.
Posted by bueale (1 comment )
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The iPhone isn't terrible, it's the AT&T network. I mean, come on, all smartphones pretty much do all the same stuff, the only real difference is the network. The iPhone is not leaps better than the Droid, nor is the Droid leaps better than the iPhone. Most people who will buy the Droid will do so because of Verizon, and others will buy it because they simply hate Apple.

I, for one, don't even have a smartphone, so you guys are the lucky ones. I'm waiting it out until mid 2010 until the Android system gets all sorted out, or whether Apple decidies to let Verizon have the honor of carrying the iPhone, because AT&T can go suck it.
Posted by PineappleUnderTheSea (181 comments )
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not just iphone, but any apple fruit. Silly, inane comments of no substance technically speaking. embarrassing from a purported techno "prize" site.
Posted by gawful2 ( comments )
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lol the iPhone is such a terrible phone eh? I guess that's why they're selling like hot cakes - all the hundreds of thousands of iPhone users must be wrong!


Btw, HTC phones have one of the worst reliability track records on the market - even my wireless provider, who sell HTC phones, cautioned me on their reliability track record.

The funny thing about your comments is that they expose your own bias, one that smacks right in the face of the irrefutable fact that the iPhone set a new standard of excellence for smartphones - they are the measuring stick all other phone companies are using to build a better product. If anything your garabagy HTC wouldn't exist had it not been for the undeniable influence from the iPhone design.
Posted by jb5150 ( comments )
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I would go with the Droid over the Iphone. 2 things that too me our invaluable in a cell phone company are network quality & customer service. That is why I am a T-mobile customer. T-mobile's US 3g coverage continues to improve and I often see web pages on my G1 load faster than they do on my friends Iphone but there are a lot less folks on the network for T-mobile. What good is a phone that won't ring and causes you to miss calls??? I also love T-mobile's customer service & pricing. I was recently in a very rural area where 2 or 3 months ago I had no service. Now I find that my phone says its roaming onto AT&T's network. I tried using data and was surprised to find that I had a pretty speedy connection even while roaming and in the middle of a highway with farms on both sides of the road and not a city in sight for about 55 miles. I'll be waiting on the Sony Ericsson X3 "Rachel" to come to T-mobile in Quarter 1 of 2010 and that will be my new phone. Iphone is not the best phone out there due to it being tied to ATT.
Posted by iceman721 (192 comments )
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I found AT&T network extremely deficient, I could not call from work. Verizon phone had poor call quality at home. I got the Palm Pre, and it works where I am. What good is the fancy phone, if the network won't support it. The Iphone is the weaker player here, because the AT&T network is inferior.
Posted by co_tech (2 comments )
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I am an Apple fan but have switched to Droid because of poor AT&T service. Great prize fight and review. If Apple does not move to Verizon it will be the worst business decision they have ever made. What will be interesting is to see if Android survives if Apple makes the move. Google is very strong and inventive. A battle of titans.
Posted by skinzy1 (2 comments )
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There are more than one dimension...iPhone----Droid. There's Nokia. My E71 (AT&T) works where iPhones don't and Verizon phones don't. I always have "Gee, it sounds like a regular phone...super!"...And 1.3+mbps tether to my laptop anywhere in the world I've gone and an amazingly cheap plan (just press for it)...good ol' Ma Bell and the original phone guys who know how to make a phone and a network. There's something else that's your problem. Plus, with my 32GB card, I carry over 200 full length feature films on it and the camera/still-video is wonderful.
Posted by schmidtjon (1 comment )
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I can't stand these stupid reviews and articles regarding the Droid. It's full of wrong information every time. It's really just bad journalism from anyone who doesn't bother to actually use the phone before making false statements. It's really not helping to push sales when this happens.

Just a couple of examples:
- No multi-touch - so many people have said this simply because they couldn't pinch to zoom on the browser/picture gallery. First, pinch to zoom is a feature resulting from multi-touch and not the definition of it. Secondly, multi-touch is natively implemented in certain areas (like the virtual keyboard). Thirdly, say that it's not implemented in certain areas of the OS rather than saying it doesn't support it.

- No video player - really?? Did you even try to use the phone? It does have a video player. It is very basic with little features but it does have one.

There are a bunch of other examples (like the inability to sync music claim) but this post is already too long. If you are just an iPhone fanboy not willing to do the research before downplaying the abilities of another phone/OS, just say so before you start these ridiculous articles.
Posted by lo266 (18 comments )
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What's the point of being multi-touch capable if the software prevents you from using it in the most important areas (web browsing, and virtual keyboard which has half baked multitouch support) of the operating system? This is just like the camera on the Droid. What's the point of having a 5 megapixel camera if it takes almost 10 seconds for the Droid to capture and save one picture? While the camera bug can be fixed, I doubt Google will ever completely implement multi-touch into the parts of Android that really matter.
Posted by csoccer1 (109 comments )
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agree... and the judges... how can you be fair if you have a show called apple bite.... judges a being payed..
Posted by cidblunt (6 comments )
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In fact, the lack of a video player isn't a problem. There are dozens in the app store, and the best part is this: Nobody will block you from publishing one just because it "duplicates an existing feature", as has happened many times on the iPhone. iPhone users still can't get a real podcast downloader, all because there's an existing (deficient) one built in to iTunes on the iPhone.

People, the "phone" (I think we should call it something else - maye a PADD, after the similar devices in Star Trek) is just a platform. Just because a program isn't in the device out of the box doesn't mean it's not there... it's a 5 minute trip to the app store... not hard at all.
Posted by tomxp411 (4 comments )
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Sorry, but a jailbroken IPhone kicks Droid right to the back of the bus.

Jess
www.privacy-stuff.be.tc
Posted by eebeeno (3 comments )
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droid doesn't need to be broken; its already open. have fun with your no official support
Posted by 5old13r (17 comments )
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LOL! No... It Most certainly Does Not...

No amount of 'jailbreaking' can improve the iPhone's archaic 320x480 display resolution (2.69 times fewer pixels than the droid), substandard audio quality/volume, last-generation aspect ratio, etc.

I have a 'jailbroken' iPhone, and it's still far more limited than my DROID.
Posted by DaHarder (27 comments )
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Let's not forget how dependent the Droid is on Google.
For those concerned about the so-called "creepy factor" with Google's data collection and privacy policies, take a look at Google Watch before allowing Google into your mobile world.
Posted by blusky08 (537 comments )
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Maybe. I don't own a jailbroken iPhone, so I can't make an honest comparison. HOWEVER, a jailbroken iPhone does NOT get software updates, and if AT&T or Apple find out about it -- whoops! There goes your warranty. Just what I want -- a brand new phone with no warranty. Yeah, I'll rush right out and pay for that.
Posted by LMacNeill (15 comments )
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People are so blind that they dont even care about call quality anymore.I have a iphone i have a iphone,WHO CARES.i have a htc ozone and i can aleast make phone calls and it rings when people call me!!!
Posted by jalessary (54 comments )
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So call quality and sexiness carry equal weight as they both have their own round. That's just ludicrous. Also its funny but everyone including cnet has mentioned that the droid has the nicer display of the two. The fact that the droid hasa keyboard seems to have carried no weight to cnet and yes it is flat but any keyboard is better than no keyboard. I like Kent's comment "Even Apple haters have to admit that the iPhone is very easy to use". Yes, its easy to use but it's not easy to type on because I have large hands and a lat keyboard for me is still better and I doubt I'm alone. I can't believe with that one sentence he gives it a 5. Prizefights = a joke until they actually give an actual and factual analysis than stupid quirky comments with little or no support.
Posted by shawn0222 (1 comment )
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excellent point. a large part of the outcome is affected by the selection of categories.
Posted by iconoclast04 (81 comments )
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so you have a droid . im really into video conversion of dvds to mp4. i saw some mp4 video on droid from youtube and it blew me away . why are they saying the video quality / player is not so great . even the new lg enV Touch supports MP4video now and what i saw on it was awesome to say the least . are you able to shed some light on this for me . i also welcome anyone who reads this to give me thier honest opinion concerning my questions about the droid .
Posted by kleankutkreations ( comments )
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Hey losers, just deal with the fact that the Droid will never be as good as the iphone. For you people who are saying that call quality is the most important category, are you CRAZY? If you are buying a multimedia phone and the quality of your phone calls is the most important issue to you, DON'T BUY A MULTIMEDIA PHONE! The most important category should be the APPS that are available because this is what makes these phones what they are. The Droid doesn't come close to the iphone and it never will, just deal with it.
Posted by eakdaman (10 comments )
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your an idiot
Posted by jalessary (54 comments )
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Oh boy, if you're going to call someone an idiot, make sure your grammar is correct.

But I agree, he IS an idiot.
Posted by xBradcorex (10 comments )
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ok,you are a idiot
Posted by jalessary (54 comments )
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Strike 2
Posted by billped (12 comments )
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If you bought the iphone for the apps and making phone calls is not a priority to you, maybe you should have just bought a Touch
Posted by redsketch (15 comments )
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-Through a blog post, I read that more Android users use apps than iPhone users do. Now, I don't know if that's because maybe Apple is targeting the wrong crowd, if they don't have nearly the amount of apps that allow for customization of the phone, or simply because they have too many apps. I know that sounds a bit strange, but considering the difficult navigation of the app store, along with the fact that there are so many duplicates, some may find it hard to find the app they want, and when they do, it could be confusing as to which once they should picl.

-Google has a huge advantage over Apple in regards to apps that I didn't hear anybody mention. Refundable apps. Apple does not offer that, and I doubt they ever will. I think that's a huge factor you have to look at, because if you spend $6 on a nice app, and end up hating it, with Android, you've got a bit of time to return it. With the iPhone, you're stuck with it.

Just some things to consider before you do nothing but praise Apple's apps.
Posted by killerkommotion ( comments )
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I did buy a Touch.. because a phone that does everything well accept make and receive phone calls is useless!!!
And by the way.. I gave my touch to my daughter a short while after I got my DROID!!!
Posted by eli23nyc ( comments )
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Somehow I knew the winner of this when I saw the title of the prizefight. CNET is the kind Apple "oh my its so cool" that make me want to sell my two iphones. You completely glaze over the fact that you must use itunes. I don't care if a tool works well, I don't want to be told what Proprietary accessories i must use to make it work. I guess its the American in me.

I wish ATT sold the Droid.
Posted by windele1 (10 comments )
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its true you have to use itunes for most parts, but you can use other software. I believe there is something called media monkey or a few others that are similar that offer relatively similar features as itunes. just check cnet.
Posted by alumley007 (2 comments )
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I think thats a great point and I do like drag and drop
Posted by sgtslayer321 (5 comments )
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Nobody expects a rookie to win in the first fight against a hardcore veteran (oh, Happy Veterans Day). Droid drew a lot of blood that last round, showing stamina and core performance, it is a phone after all.
Posted by rammer88 (28 comments )
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Looks to me as though you guys did a prizefight between the Droid vs ipod (And not the iphone). Come on. If a phone doesn't do the basic call/coverage well, it is useless as a reliable phone. The tie breaker should have been based on the basic functionality of the phone and the reliability of coverage. If apple would just wake up and have there phone available to other carriers such as verizon, sprint, t-moble, cellularsouth, boost moble, etc. then they would dominate the cell phone industry. I for one will not switch to ATT because their coverage does not even pick up well in my own home and home area.

Jason from Oxford, Mississippi
Posted by jasontexada (32 comments )
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Not to mention, the iphone doesn't have a physical keyboard (Everyone does't like texting without a physical keyboard), it doesn't have a removable battery, it does not have a micro sd slot for expandable memory, etc. Come on Cnet!! This is sounding more like a "FIXED" prize fight the more we make comparisons as consumers. The i-phone is like being in a relationship. What good is a girlfriend(i-phone) having sexiness but does not help you for your purpose. She (i-phone) can't even help you with the basic functions of a girlfriend (phone call quality/coverage). There should be a re-match!
Posted by jasontexada (32 comments )
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Not many people are calling these days anyway, we still all use text messaging
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Kent German Kent German: covers cell phones at CNET and has been following the wireless industry for six years. He's embarrassed to admit he can name almost any cell phone he sees on the street.
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