Prizefight (week of September 14)

Google Voice vs. Skype

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Google Voice vs. Skype

Skype has been fine-tuning its peer-to-peer voice service for the last seven years, but Google Voice is coming on strong.

Google's communications service may offer a different set of tools, but its rich features and brand cachet are quickly making it a go-to service for tech-savvy talkers. Skype is sure to be feeling the heat.



Now that Google has introduced yet another another trick by integrating Google Voice with your Gmail in-box, it's high time we throw both powerhouses into the ring and see which is left standing.

Ante up your bets, everyone. This Prizefight is about to begin.

Editors' note: The Prizefight scoring system is as follows: Each judge rates on a 0-to-5-point scale. At the end of each round, we will take an average of the three judges' scores. The final score will be an average of all five rounds.

Round 1: Apps and interface

How an app looks often goes hand in hand with how easy it is to use. Which service's public face has the goods, Skype or Google Voice?
player Jessica Nicole Brian the winner
Google VoiceGoogle Voice 4I'm not a huge fan of Google's spare design, but the in-box metaphor just works when it comes to managing voice mail and missed calls. Though you don't need a mobile app to use Google Voice, the smartphone apps, especially on Android, make it easy as pie to use. 4I personally really like Google Voice because of how tightly integrated it is with my Google account. I already have my Gmail account open most of the time, so making a call is just a matter of typing in a few numbers and pressing Enter. Relying on the Web browser also means you don't need to download another app. 4I don't live in the Google ecoystem 24-7, but it's an advantage to do everything in a single browser on a desktop. Once you set up a Google Voice number, you don't really need any app on your mobile phone to use it. 4
SkypeSkype 3Skype has undergone some major overhauls, but the app seems behind some of its direct competitors. The mobile apps are easy to use, but they haven't yet implemented video chat, a key feature. (Note that Google Voice apps don't offer video chatting either.) 3The Skype interface is similar to that of other instant messaging programs, which means it's pretty easy to use. I also like that the chat interface is closely tied to the program. However, I find that the Skype app can be rather sluggish, and it can take a while for it to launch and load. 3It's a clean standalone desktop IM client that has no major flaws. On the mobile side, both sides of the call need to have the app to use the service. 3

Round 2: Features

Two voice services, two approaches. We break it down to tell you which provider offers more pow in their punch.
player Jessica Nicole Brian the winner
Google VoiceGoogle Voice 4Google Voice hits you over the head with services; call forwarding and visual voice mail are the best. Voice mail transcription is tragicomically incorrect, but it's easy to access via text message, e-mail, or the Web. However, it requires more up-front commitment to get started than does Skype. 4The key feature I like is that you can forward calls to your phone number with Google Voice. Additionally, you can use your Google Voice number to hand out to people if you want to screen your calls. I don't think transcription is that valuable, however, because Google Voice's transcription technology is horribly inaccurate most of the time. 4Being able to use the service and forward your Google Voice number to other phones is a big deal to me. Transcription is anything but perfect, but I like my visual voice mail in a browser. 4
SkypeSkype 4Long-distance video and voice chats are Skype's main purpose, and for the most part, it does an admirable job. Skype has recently beefed up call and video quality. IM, SMS, voice mail, and games are extras, but vocal communication is the star. 3I enjoy having a separate chat window with the Skype app, and the main value of Skype is that it is available internationally, whereas Google Voice is not. Still, that's not quite enough to unseat Google Voice for me. 4Skype excels when you're talking about video calls. Its video and audio quality and connection reliability give it an edge over Google. And as long as both people are using the app, I can communicate anywhere for free. 3.7

Round 3: Device compatibility

A voice service isn't any good if you can't use it when and where you want. See which service wins this round.
player Jessica Nicole Brian the winner
Google VoiceGoogle Voice 5Google's ubiquity gives Google Voice the upper hand. It's accessible from the Web, smartphones, and even your Gmail account. But you can also place calls using just your phone, once you've called your own Google Voice number and have gone through the menu system. It's not always elegant, but it works. 5This is kind of a no-brainer here. Most any cell phone and modern smartphone can use Google Voice to varying degrees, and, of course, you can use a browser as well. You can't use VoIP-only devices, but the fact that you don't even need a VoIP device should be a plus. 5I can use Google Voice pretty much anywhere, on almost any phone I want without having an app to get in the way. If I want to use the service on a browser, I can do that, but I'm not dependent on it. 5
SkypeSkype 3Skype is accessible via Web app, smartphone app, and dedicated Skype phone that you can purchase. However, apps are no longer available for all mobile platforms, which makes it more limited. 3Yes, you can use Skype on a smartphone if you have the app, but Google Voice doesn't need an app. Of course, you can also use it on a computer, but again, that requires an app. 3The Skype app lives on your desktop and mobile phones and VoIP phones, but it needs an app on those platforms if you want to use it. 3

Round 4: Cost

Both Skype and Google Voice are free in some situations and will incur a cost in others. Let's see how the pricing stacks up in this final round.
player Jessica Nicole Brian the winner
Google VoiceGoogle Voice 3It really depends on your needs. Google Voice makes free calls to landlines and mobile phones for U.S. users only, and only to the U.S. and Canada. Google profits from any other international calls. 4Google Voice can make free calls to landlines in the U.S. and Canada, and voice mail and receiving text messages is free. 5At the moment, it's free to use in the U.S. and Canada through 2010, but will it stay free forever? You'll still have to pay fees to call internationally. 4
SkypeSkype 4Skype-to-Skype calls are free, but they'll cost you a (reasonable) rate to a landline or mobile phone. Serious long-distance callers should make the effort to get the fee app. Skype is still limited, but it helps more people save more on long-distance calls. 3Making Skype-to-Skype calls is free, but everything else requires a fee. 4Skype offers free calls ANYWHERE, as long as both parties are using a Skype client. That's a specific condition, but it will always be free that way. If you want the flexibility to call landlines or mobile phones, you'll have to pay. 3.7

The winner is...

Winner

Google Voice (4.3 pts)

Google Voice

Runner-Up

Skype (3.4 pts)

Skype
Google Voice led early in this punch-out, and kept the hits coming with its rich features and its convenient availability on cell phones, smartphone apps, and the Web. Yet Skype fans should take heart: Google Voice may have swept our Prizefight, but it isn't for everyone or every situation, and Skype remains the better option for international video chatting.
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I find Google Voice to have better video/sound quality than Skype.

On Skype, the other person looks(and sounds) like they are made up of legos.
Posted by FirewaveZ (202 comments )
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Get real buddy, and use it regularly yes sometimes when there are 6 million people on line it can get a bit dodgy but wait awhile and it clears.
Posted by saltydognl (2 comments )
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i have been using skype since the beginning and seen many improvements over the years google is giving them a run for there money im just in the process of trying voice to compare.
Posted by briancarr1966 (11 comments )
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About a year ago I cancelled service on my iPhone 3G and got a prepaid phone for voice and a Verizon MiFi to use with the iPhone. I tried using the Skype app instead of the prepaid phone. Three months and $60 later I gave up and added a voice plan to my Verizon account.
I do have Google Voice now. The GVmobile app in Cydia is my primary reason for jailbreaking.
Posted by fondy (365 comments )
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I became a full time user of SKYPE in MAY 2005.....first to go was the land line and a year later the cell contract (pay as I go is $10).......I really find SKYPE great and set up others in doing so too.....BUT since Google doesn't allow me to use voice here (CANADA)
as we are always a second class by many US companies.......SKYPE WINS !
Posted by canaguy (4 comments )
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completly agree
Posted by winlin747 (16 comments )
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Hey bud you got that wrong. Not second class, somtimes 3rd and 4th. I have seen many products rolled out in the US and outside US (for US) and to some other countries before launching in Canada that too with limited or inferior service. I am a Canadian and feel your pain. It's proven tahr in many fields from banking to sports to consumer and privacy safety and ofcourse it's diversity, health care and some of the best Universities are right here in Canada. I see no reason why we should be left out and it's about time we step up and do what the world has never seen or heard before. I salute RIM for that reason. Believe in Canada and hang on to it! You will glad you did that.
Posted by Aprilfool71 (1 comment )
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I am not sure where you are getting that Google doesn't allow you to use Voice HERE in Canada?
It is 100% free across ANY phone in North America (U.S. & Canada). I have been using it since it came out. it rocks and demolishes Skype when it comes to calls (not video calls).
Posted by slimcruz (1 comment )
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Why exactly would you "blame" American companies for treating you like "second class" when Canadian companies are perfectly capable of providing you the same technology? Playing a victim with a blame game attitude makes no sense at all.
Posted by rqbird (12 comments )
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When Skype took away my $20 credit because I didn't use my minutes fast enough for them I knew I would never use Skype again.

Be warned people who occasionally use Skype, your minutes will be taken by Skype for no good reason.
Posted by Deesugar (6 comments )
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I'm not a huge fan of many ways Skype does things, but they gave you 6 months to make a call before you lose your minutes. All you have to do is make one one minute phone call every 6 months to keep your minutes.
Posted by damian5000 (24 comments )
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I've had a credit on Skype for over 3 years, as long as you use a little of it now and then it shouldn't expire. I got an E-Mail reminder a couple of months ago advising me to use it or lose it - so I sent an SMS message to my flatmate. I am only a very occasional user of Skype and have no fear of them taking my minutes for no good reason.
Posted by KiwiMark67 (2 comments )
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No Google Voice yet in the UK either...
Posted by EmjaY (1 comment )
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That's a bit harsh mate. Skype gives you six months to use your credit and when the time is getting close they send plenty of warning letting you know and all you have to do is make ONE phone call or even sent ONE TXT message and your credit is safe for a further six months All I can say is you don't use SKYPE often or you do not read when you sign up for something but are quick to complain due to ignorance.
Six Months is a huge amount of time to decide if an account is non active. You don't get that with your Utility company's.
Skype is the best for International..
Posted by Incognito60 (3 comments )
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Skype has a crappy VOIP phone service that works on some computers but most it don't work well. Google is free like Skype use to be. Then I use my Skype cell phone or new PC is now worthless VOIP which stole my $25 and tried to use my credit card to by buy junk that Capital One closed my account because SKYPE TRIED TO SNIPE ME! GOOGLE IS MUCH BETTER FREE SERVICE!
Posted by homey4u (12 comments )
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Skype has a crappy VOIP phone service that works on some computers but most it don't work well. Google is free like Skype use to be. Then I use my Skype cell phone or new PC is now worthless VOIP which stole my $25 and tried to use my credit card to by buy junk that Capital One closed my account because SKYPE TRIED TO SNIPE ME! GOOGLE IS MUCH BETTER FREE SERVICE!
Posted by homey4u (12 comments )
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Skype works in Canada.
Posted by tim.lsr (42 comments )
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Skype may work in Canada, but you can't get a Canadian phone number.

Sucks.
Posted by PilotGav (1 comment )
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Its strange, but my old Bell wired telephone is the most reliable communications system in the world. I'm 72, and I remember party lines (now gone thank goodness). It never failed me in all those years. I have a cell phone and find it useful on occasions, but I will not give up my reliable and true wired phone at home. Do not remove your wired phone. In the long run you will be sorry you did.
Posted by BobGN (4 comments )
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Bob to Bob: I generally agree that the old wire telephone system which has the operating voltage powered over the wires by the telephone company was the most reliable telephone system to date. Unfortunately, the newer fiber optic telephone lines are not powered over the line by your local telephone company. Instead they give you a back up battery power source at your service location. Guess what? The batteries have problems like all current battery technologies and you end up losing your telephone connection once your local electric power company's lines go dead. Of course you can install a bigger back up battery bank as I did, but we seem to be losing the old reliable twisted wire telephone network!
Posted by bobweb (2 comments )
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Bell are vultures and thieves. Nickel and diming cost my business -- landline, cell phone, internet and satellite. They probable think I'm dead. Great!
Posted by retired_gfx (4 comments )
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The wired phone is good in the event of a power failure... you can still call out, including to 911 ...unless the wire is cut.

Other than that... I can do without the monthly cost. I am awaiting the day I can use VoIP (Skype or Google, voice over WiFi) and drop my landline -and- my cellular. If Skype can get on the new iPod Touch cameras with video-phoning... I'll be trying it out for wifi phoning, esp. at home... and keeping an old cellphone charged up.
You can always dial 911 with a cellphone, even if you don't have a cellular account. 911 access from any/every cellphone, in service or not, is mandated by the FCC. So it's good to keep a charged cellphone at floor level, for those who might "fall and can't get up". (Really)
Posted by rdunn (76 comments )
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Wow, that comment would be better suited on a prize fight between LAN phone lines and Cellular Phone Service. This Prize Fight is about the difference between two VoIP providers. They can be used on both wired or wireless internet connections.
Posted by hicksticks (237 comments )
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Respectfully, from one grandpa to another, get up out of that easy chair and walk around the block. You'll find the limitations of your land line somewhere in the first three steps. Alexander was a very inventive guy and land lines were essential to America's industrial and technology leads of the 20th century. I wonder if he and Marconi had gotten together where wireless would be today.
Posted by jwhoweth (3 comments )
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Hear hear !

Cell 'phone service is erratic here in a Boston suburb ... low / no signal , dropped calls etc.

Google Voice so far works great with my POTS - I wonder how long Google is going to be willing to provide this service free ..
Posted by ws (1 comment )
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i must disagree with you there Bob as i live in las vegas and it is cheaper and more reliable to run skype and a cell phone
Posted by nightwolf4963 (1 comment )
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It's also the only phone that will work in your house during a power failure.
Posted by johnedwardsbc (3 comments )
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There are some factual errors in this comparison -- that work in Google's favor most of the time. As far as I know, any GMail user can use Google chat, talk, and video -- with other GMail users, free of charge -- without interacting with the conventional phone system. I do not believe that is restricted by country -- but I may be wrong on that.

Secondly, Skype is a peer-to-peer system and thus could use part of your bandwidth. Google Voice is not peer-to-peer as best as I know. I have heard some folks express concerns over security with Skype, especially in its early days; I have not heard similar concerns over Google Voice.

For iPhone users -- for now -- Skype is preferred when you are interacting with other Skype users, because you don't use mobile minutes -- unlike Google Voice.

I suggest this comparison be re-run with the factual errors corrected.
Posted by rcuff (3 comments )
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Rcuff, I think you are the one that is introducing errors.

you can make phone calls via google voice now without using any minutes on your cell phone. Skype is not just a peer to peer network since you can make phone calls to tradditional phone numbers at a charge.
Posted by hicksticks (237 comments )
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Google voice is amazing. I have completely replaced my regular cell number. It is cheap and you can use it anywhere all around it is the best, no contest.
Posted by EvanSei (1211 comments )
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You can use it anywhere?
Have you tried outside north america?
Because if you try, you'll find that it doesn't work anywhere at all outside north america.
Epic fail.
Posted by PhilLee (6 comments )
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i don't know how to use the google video on my evo ??
Posted by 3booooooood (4 comments )
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I tried both and been useing Skype for years, Skype is very safe and meets all the security requirments like incripted comunications etc. its more secure than google voice.
I find Skype easer to use for work as its nice and simple and works very well, much better video quality and sound, googles is very poor sound and video is terrible.
Posted by orelanic (1 comment )
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Phillips sells a Skype Server so you don't have to leave your computer on all the time. Ooma has it's own box too (Ooma was ignored in this article, making the opinions offered jaundiced in my view).
I use Skype for now, but will probably switch to Ooma once my son comes back from overseas.
Posted by Spicer1258 (19 comments )
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SWEET! Now let's have a follow-up between Google voice and Vonage.
Posted by samuel_mcclard (2 comments )
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Last week, I received a piece of phishing spam from Skype. It was one of those " your computer is infected" pieces that wanted you to send money to them to fix it. I have a Mac, nuf said.

I don't know how anyone can spam a phone account. They didn't get it out of my Mac data files, since PC viruses don't reach there. The only thing I can figure is they got the info from Skype, or hacked Skype's phone network.

Either way, I was quite irritated that this happened.

I pulled down the help menu for spam and it said to enable the '" Block this site" which is probably useless. I didn't see any way to delete the message.

I carefully figure out where to sent the spam to Skype (they don't want you to know an email address, it is abuse@skype.com). I sent offending spam and they replied - just ignore it, or block it. This is not the answer I was looking for. They apparently don't take spam or hacking their customer's accounts seriously.

I sent a note back saying so and got roughly the same response.

The next day I got exactly the same piece of spam.

I am ready for another web phone option.
Posted by grand2--2008 (22 comments )
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This prizefight is silly - seems like those guys did not use neither skype nor google voice. And they did not take into account experience from overseas. I used both and they serve pretty different purpose. Google Voice is not a winner for sure, cause you would not be able to call from mobile device from overseas....
Posted by alenas (181 comments )
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I live overseas and want to use a service to call to the US. Google Voice is not accessible outside the US. Skype is also something many of my work colleagues use while traveling overseas, so we then also use it for chat, i.e., an IM service, even within the office (not for commercial purposes--as in, "wanna go to lunch?").

I've used Skype for many years as a pre-paid, non-subscription service. I like it and unless GV moves to let me use it internationally, it won't be of much use. (I did sign up while in the US and I now already get junk voice mail messages!)
Posted by chowbiz (68 comments )
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MagicJack is probably your best (and cheapest) bet. You get a U.S. number and can call the U.S. from anywhere.
Posted by Tenorsaw (20 comments )
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Call quality could have at least been MENTIONED somewhere in the prize fight text. Is it theoretical identical? If not, it should certainly have been scored.

The scarce mention of international calls bothered me. I talk to Moscow from California sometimes, Skype-to-Skype, completely for free. This seems not to be possible with Google Talk. That's a big deal to me. Come on, CNET, you are usually so with-it technically! Don't you realize that we live in one world, not just the US and maybe Canada? Everything you rate should have an international component when appropriate, as in this case.
Posted by geneven (78 comments )
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Nobody in this discussion mentioned majicJack VoIP device. It is prepaid ($20 per year) and you can use around the world to call for free (U.S. territory also is free). It works not only peer-to-peer, but with (0.7 c/min credit card charge) the device will allow you to call abroad other than majicJack phone#.
Posted by vik1919 (1 comment )
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California? Where's that?
Americal no longer is the biggest and only place in the world, how about recogising the rest of the world (and spelling correctly)

Martin in Wantirna South (look it up in Google).
Posted by Martinc44 (2 comments )
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I spend 1/3 of time in Canada, 1/3 in USA and 1/3 in other countries. Google Voice only works in USA. I've been a huge fan and user of Skype since the early days and now use Skype and Vonage for all my voice com. For anyone outside of the USA, Google Voice is simply a non-starter.
Posted by grethy (2 comments )
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I would like to see a review of voipraider and voipstunt and lots of other look alikes run by the same german group.

I now use skype-out to call toll free 800 numbers in USA (free)
I use gmail for voice calls to other phones in USA (free vs paid at skype)
To call phones in Europe, i use voipraider or voipstunt. Quality not always as good as skype
but calls are "free" to land lines and cheap to mobiles. "free" means deposit $10 or 10 euros every 3 months. this money does not expire and carries over to future times. If you did not pay again when your 3 mos is over, they charge about 1 cent/minute for the otherwise "free" calls to land lines. I usually deposit $10 every 3 mos, my credit is growing because I pay only for calls to mobiles outside US(typically cheaper than skype usually about 5cents -20cents per minute)
You can even make cheap or free calls from yoour cell phone by calling a local usa number (but you use up your cellphone minutes)
Posted by cmpenchina (10 comments )
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Hi. I'm a UK ex pat living in Spain ( another part of the world outside the US ! )
In rural Spain the utility companies are all controlled by the State, so Telefonica ( the national phone company) treat customers like the "enemy" so best avoided if you require a "landline" service.
I and many of our neighbours use both Skype and Voipstunt, Skype has improved tremendously over the past year, and for me having part of my familiy in Singapore and part in the UK, Skype has been fantastic and Free on PC to PC calls.
The advantage of Voipstunt is the FREE calls I can make to our Familiy in Singapore for both Mobile and Landline calls, (no Video with Voipstunt) call quality has been excellent, I can also call friends in the US & Canada on either their Mobile or Landline Phones "Free"
Posted by rayfrailes (2 comments )
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I would like to use gmail for a voice call tu USA landline.
I would llike to RECORD the conversation.

Someone please advise how to do that with gmail skype or voipraider Thanks in advance
If possible, send instructions to cporder2010@gmail.com.
Posted by cmpenchina (10 comments )
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Go to the Skype site and get "Skype Recorder".
It will record every word said.
Posted by AlaskaFlyinHigh (9 comments )
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So all the judges are on Google Voice now then, huh?
Except Brian when he calls internationally.

This was a poor comparison... and the points awarded were tipped too much to Google... esp. where international calling was discounted, and GVoice is only free for the next few months. Google should step up and make the decision... is GVoice going to remain free in the U.S. or not... that indecision makes for -negative- points. Skype wins those points massively... making the prize fight dead even.

Skype icons are 'janky'? Gee, maybe Google's interface is oldskool.

Both should freshen their interfaces, with an optional 'skin' or 'compact' choice, to make them dead simple for old/young users (or just those who like 'clean' interfaces) without all the clutter... just to make a "play school" simple voice or vid call ...without all the janky and oldskool options cluttering the app. All software should have a 'simplified' skin/view... for the very young, the 'challenged', and the elderly... who oftentimes have the same needs/skillsets. They don't need the complex options, colors, etc... but they can still be valid users of many devices/apps/emergency services.
Posted by rdunn (76 comments )
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Skype already has a compact option, and has done for years.
Posted by PhilLee (6 comments )
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Aren't calls from Gtalk to Gtalk free over the PC, just like Skype? If so, then what does Skype really offer that Google doesn't? We all know Voice and Gtalk will be integrated in the future as Google refines their offerings.
Posted by uansari1 (14 comments )
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International capability.
GTalk is US (and maybe Canada?) only.
Posted by PhilLee (6 comments )
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Nicole said: "Relying on the Web browser also means you don't need to download another app."

You do have to download an installer file that installs an Add-on application to your browser in order for it to work. so you really are installing another application, it is just an add-on to an application you already have on your computer (your browser) opposed to a full blown stand-alone application.

However, the point should be clearly made that you can't make a phone call without installing something first.
Posted by hicksticks (237 comments )
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Chock one up for Skype. Never had negative issues but had only excellent service. Now paying $30.00/year CDN and call anywhere in North America, 10,000 minutes a month. Of course I only use less than 1% of those minutes, but it's there if I need it. Call quality has lately been 99%. The other 1% is due to known ISP issues. No issues with phishing or spam yet.
...Steve
Posted by Steve2000 (1 comment )
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Um..."rich features and brand cache" ... the word you're thinking of is "cachet". A cache is a secret storage place, while a cachet is a distinctive quality. About as different as "sash" and "sashay".
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