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April 06, 2006, 6:01 PM PDT
MacBook Pro XP vs. the PC competition
Posted by: Justin Jaffe

The reader response to Apple's new Boot Camp utility, which lets you install Windows XP on a MacBook Pro or an iMac Core Duo, has been mixed so far.

Me, though? Man, I'm psyched. This makes my job a lot easier. As a laptop reviewer, I've always been frustrated by the apples to oranges (insert Bronx cheer) comparisons I've been forced to make when pitting PowerBooks and iBooks against the PC competition. Boot Camp finally provides a baseline for a true head-to-head contest of Apple hardware vs. PC hardware, without operating systems or Rosetta or anything else qualifying the results.

We went out and bought a 2.0GHz MacBook Pro last night (shout out to the Stonestown Mall Apple Store). Then we dug up some good PC competitors, one of which has almost identical specs. This morning, we started testing. Here's what we found.

Well, first, a disclosure of the specs. For the most part, they match up perfectly. We were using a MacBook Pro running Windows XP Pro and equipped with a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo (T2500) processor; 2GB of DDR2 SDRAM (666MHz); an ATI Mobility Radeon x1600 graphics card; and a 100GB hard drive spinning at 5,400rpm.

The Acer TravelMate 8200 was also running Windows XP Pro and was equipped with a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo (T2500) processor; 2GB of slightly slower DDR2 SDRAM (533MHz); an ATI Mobility Radeon x1600 graphics card; and a slightly larger 120GB hard drive spinning at 5,400rpm.

For additional context, we've also included the HP Pavilion dv1000t, another solid laptop running the same Intel Core Duo T2500 processor, as well as the original MacBook Pro we tested back in February, which was running the Mac OS on a 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo T2400 processor; take note that this MacBook Pro was running Mac versions of all software.

And now, without further delay, the results.

In our Photoshop test, the original MacBook Pro struggled, forced to process the application through its Rosetta translation program, which resulted in performance that was about five times slower than the PC competition--slower than on even the lowest-end iBook. Because a native version of Photoshop for OS X isn't expected until sometime next year, the ability to run Photoshop smoothly on a MacBook Pro running Windows XP is a crucial step forward.

Photoshop CS
In minutes (Shorter bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
2.5 

In our iTunes conversion test, the original MacBook came at the top of the heap, slightly ahead of the HP, the Acer, and the MacBook Pro running Windows XP. We'll chalk this up to the fact that Apple's applications will always run best on Apple hardware. Still, the difference is nominal.

iTunes multiple MP3 conversion test
In minutes (Shorter bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
2.05 

Perhaps the best news is that Boot Camp shows the potential for gaming on a Mac. Where the MacBook Pro running OS X Tiger turned in only 13.8 frames per second (fps) in our standard Doom 3 benchmark, the MacBook Pro running Windows XP notched 21.6fps. Yes, this is likely partially due to the difference in the processor speed, but more so due to the fact that Doom 3 was built to run on Windows XP. There's no question: You're going to have a noticeably better gaming experience on a Mac running Windows XP than Mac OS X.

Doom 3
In frames per second (Longer bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
21.6 

The remainder of our tests, Sorenson Squeeze, Dr. Divx, and Cinebench, all test encoding performance. The charts speak volumes. The MacBook Pro running Windows XP delivers performance power that's identical to the PC competition.

Sorenson Squeeze video encoding
In minutes (Shorter bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
4.41 

Dr. Divx file conversion
In minutes (Shorter bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
2.55 

Cinebench
In seconds (Shorter bars indicate faster performance)
MacBook Pro (Windows XP Pro)
48.7 

We'll be running some more benchmarks, including MobileMark and SysMark, during the next few days. But Talk back to me now: What do these results mean to you? Are you ready to buy a MacBook Pro?

TalkBack
157 messages

MacBook Pro

As a life long PC user since the DOS days and just got a MAC Book Pro.
Because of Vista issues, I give Macs an edge. I want the best and most robust
OSs for Business and Graphics/film editing/photos/Music aps-that means
XP/OSX Office 2007 Enterprise. I have nothing against PCs and still love
them. Vista was the breaking point






by PrivettP (See profile) - April 12, 2008 10:29 AM PDT

disappointed with Mac - back to PC

For some time wanted to own a MacBook Pro and finally bought 15" w all available upgrades. After 6 months really wish I hadnt. The box is elegant and seems rugged, and I suppose looks count for many users but I have become very disappointed with the software and performance. It reminds me of a kiddie toy with a cute interface...but when pushed hard to do some real performance tasks it does not perform any better than my average (lower priced)PC. Graphics are good, but the Mac software just isnt that well written and versatile - in fact its often cumbersome. Whatever I've tried to do on the Mac I have PC apps that do it better - with more functionality and using the memory and processor more effectively. Sorry Mac, I need more than a kiddie toy for that price.
by trinman (See profile) - January 29, 2008 1:36 PM PST

MacBook Pro Kicks Butt!

I have the 15.4 inch MBP (2.33 GHz, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, 2 Gigs of RAM, and 120 Gig HD)... and it is the single greatest purchase I HAVE EVER MADE! I run both OS/X Tiger and Windows XP Home Via bootcamp.. I'm a hardcore gamer and a media nut (and also an apple lover). So i do a lot of school work on Tiger and most gaming on Windows XP. I have Call of Duty 2 for Mac and it runs flawlessly on full resolution and settings on ultra high! Even better, I can run Battlefield 2 AT FULL GRAPHICS AND ANTALIASING AT 6X FLAWLESSLY!!! And I mean FLAWLESS. Heh I just picked up a copy of Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter today, and it looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL. Graphics are all the way up, with Anistropic Filtering at 16X, and Antaliasing set to "smooth edges" (probably 2X or 4X) And the game runs amazingly at 1024x768 @ 80 HZ) The MBP is SIIIIICKKKKKK!!!!
by travis_westman (See profile) - July 25, 2007 1:54 AM PDT

What should i choose for college

Im attending Providnece college next yeraa nd i dont know what laptop to buy. Ive always used PCs but i really want to tyr a mac out. My only question is will i be able to do everything apc user can. Im majoring in Business management and finance. IS a mac a bad choice for my major.
by ryanr223 (See profile) - June 2, 2007 8:05 PM PDT

I want to Buy a MacBook Pro

What about virus protection. Would I need to install virus protection if I ran Windows XP Pro on my MacBook Pro? If I didn't run this OS would life be that much harder?
by solodray (See profile) - April 6, 2007 9:36 PM PDT

When will we see OS X Photoshop binaries for Intel

Are there any good websites keeping track of software being ported to MacIntel OS X?
by Maidumama (See profile) - December 11, 2006 5:15 PM PST

Porn Star, read my reply before commenting...

Okay...I concede that the decimal system in the Mac OS naming convention is simply different, and am glad that each decimal is indeed a major upgrade, not a handful of patches.

I never said 'hardware is hardware'! you mention that once you had the Maxtor drive fail on you, and the fault wasn't Apple's. fine. my Hitachi DVD burner in my HP laptop died. HP replaced it at no cost, and by your definition that the failure of an individual part is not the fault of the vendor, I shouldn't blame HP for that. 'course the best part is at the end when you say that Apple handles all the hardware in-house...so did an evil Redmont gremlin install the Maxtor drive? or are you talking about Apple simply owning the manufacturing plants - Don't the PC makers own their plants, too?

You also missed my entire point about the software. the issue isn't what software is AVAILABLE for the Mac OS; I'm well aware of Toast, Lightroom, Wavelab, Final Cut, DVD Studio, and plenty of PC-equivalent programs available for the Mac. the point is that I *own* all those titles and know how to use them. If you know of a way that I can get a discount toward Mac equivalents of PC software I've already paid for, lemme know. Even at that, I still have to re-learn to do stuff I can already do on my PC.

Regarding 'the pros' using a Mac, I personally have used Photoshop on both a Mac and a PC, and I don't see a significant difference either way. for those who say "but PC's can't produce color correctly!" to them I say, "$149 for a monitor/printer calibrator..." and you get results so close I challenge anyone to tell me the difference.

For the reasons you specified, I'll have a mac next time around. With the ability to run Windows, I can get software when I can afford it, rather than being forced to jump ship and blow an extra $1000 for equivalent software.


Joey

by voyager529 (See profile) - August 10, 2006 8:22 AM PDT

Cars & Computers

What is the primary purpose of operation/use? PC and Macs each have a
place and preference depending on the user. I've used both and I prefer the
Mac, IMHO. I don't like to work on computers, I like to work with them. I will
admit that I have not used a PC running XP, I've heard it's much more stable
than the older OS's.

I don't have to blaze with continual processing power I just want my
computer to work every time I use it.

Back to the cars- I don't like working on my car I like to drive it, I can't drive
65 mph every where I go and I don't need to. I like my car to look nice and
operate smoothly, the reality is simply this. Who cares what make and model
it is if it is broken down and gives you problems? Ford? Chevy? BMW? is it
comfortable? does it handle and accelerate well? stop and start? does it fit
your personality? do you like it?

My Mac suits my needs, it works every time, all the time and does exactly
what I want it to. Maybe your PC does it for you! My problems with all my
PC's was having to continually fix problems.

I absolutely hate car & computer problems. I can fix just about anything, do I
want to always be tweeking and tuning on my car, ah no! That's why I bought
a Honda Accord, that's also why I bought a Mac. You may pass me by in your
Corvett but I'll still get to where I'm going about the same time you do with
less trouble!
by RSelby (See profile) - June 28, 2006 2:48 AM PDT

a few concerns

it would be my first time to buy a portable and there are serious considerations, or should i say hesitations, in buying a macbook pro...

1. Is the Windows XP on a Macbook Pro susceptible to viruses and spywares? I've been struggling with keeping my PC spyware and virus-free, and one main reason why I want to switch to Mac is the absence of spyware attacks.

2. I am currently taking up CCNA and seriously considering CCNP afterwards. My professors who are proficient with both platforms advised against purchasing a Mac is I really am serious with designing networks for Cisco. For one,there is no Boson Network Designer for Mac, and they say that I can do very limited things with a Mac. With the release though of Windows XP on a Mac, is this limitation a thing of the past? If Bootcamp were not invented and there is no way that I can boot WinXP on a Mac, should I heed the recommendations of my professors to stick with Microsoft (or Linux)?

Thanks a lot!
by girltemperamental (See profile) - June 24, 2006 9:37 PM PDT

No offense taken

I should've foreseen unfortunate windows implications would be connected to
my screen name when I made it up. Actually it refers to my bad driving and
900s is my car.

I don’t know if I agree with you about Apple’s having more sturdy cases than
Thinkpads but we’ll just have to disagree on that point.

If we must discuss car analogies then I must point out that Mercedes Benz
typically cost thousands more than competitors in the same class including
BMW’s and Audi’s but I would say they were that much better in quality.

by crash900s (See profile) - May 30, 2006 10:03 PM PDT

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