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The case of the spying salesman
Posted by: Rafe Needleman

SalesGenius visit overview
SalesGenius tracks each page view in an individual's site visit.
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SalesGenius page-by-page
The product can replay a visit, page by page.
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Alert console
Salespeople can be alerted when a customer reads their email or
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The system also offers some basic Web analytics.
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There's a scary and fascinating new service launching Monday: SalesGenius, from the modestly named Genius. It's a system that allows companies to track, with excruciating detail, what individuals are doing on their Web site. It literally watches users surf.

Here's how it's supposed to work: Say a salesperson who has your contact information wants to sell you something. Via e-mail, he invites you to visit his company's Web site to learn more about the product. You click the link in the e-mail, and from that point on, everything you click in the company's site (but not in other sites) is recorded. The salesperson who sent you the invitation knows when you open the e-mail (compare to didtheyreadit.com), when you visit the site, exactly what you are looking at on his site, and for how long. He can literally replay your visit on his own computer.

Then he swoops in for the close: he contacts you and tailors his sales pitch to your observed behavior. As Genius's CEO David Thompson says, it's just like Nordstrom's "observe and serve" methodology: The salesperson doesn't try to pitch something until he watches your behavior to see what you are interested in.

A big selling advantage of SalesGenius is that it's delivered as a service. There's no software for Webmasters to install. How it works is a little tricky: When the SalesGenius system creates invitation e-mail, the links included may look normal, for example, www.store.com. But, like phishing e-mail, the actual hyperlink behind the text will be redirected, in this case to a Genius proxy server. The actual link will be www.store.rsvp1.com, and to Genius's credit, this is not hidden; you can read all about it on www.rsvp1.com. It's this server that then reports back to Genius's customers what an individual's behavior is.

It's simple to thwart the monitoring. If you want to visit a Web site mentioned in e-mail, don't click the link in the e-mail, type it into your browser yourself. If you do click over via e-mail, and you see you're working on the rsvp1 server, just strip that out of the URL.

I have no doubt that this technology will make for more effective sales calls. But it's disturbing, since most people, when they visit a Web site, do not expect to be watched, at least not so intently and personally. Moreover, the smart salesperson will not reveal that he's employing SalesGenius, so the follow-up call won't be overt. Instead of saying, "I can tell by watching your online activity that you're clicking on a lot of BMW 750i links," he'll say, "I hope you got that link I sent you. I thought you might want to know that we're organizing a comparison drive next week with the 7-series and other exclusive European cars. I'd like to invite you, if you're interested." This is what Thompson calls the "genius call."

SalesGenius will make salespeople better. But they'll be better because they're spying on their customers. Clearly, in the wrong hands, and without Genius's single-site constraint, this could be used for purposes other than just sales. It could be a frightening tool if used to discern individuals' political views or financial positions, for example.

I met Genius CEO David Thompson, and I am convinced he is earnestly trying to make a useful service for salespeople, not to introduce a stalking tool that might fall into the hands of psychopaths. Still, SalesGenius is breaking a social contract. If the e-mail messages the service sent out disclosed that clicks from those messages were being recorded, I would not have as much of an objection to it. Although disclosure would reduce the effectiveness of the system, if salespeople were to complain about it, I would not do business with them at all.

Here are more details on ZDNet and TechCrunch.

TalkBack
18 messages

another invasion?

I would like to think that my e-mail is as private as writing a letter.
hopefully hackers are developing a worm to attack this cyber invasion as well as others.
by tdalily (See profile) - June 4, 2006 5:47 PM PDT

Do you like a free internet?

Why would I be concerned that a marketer took time to learn what I wanted, rather than waste my time with a pitch I could care less about?

I think people would find advertising and other sales pitches far less annoying, if they were about things they are actually interested in.

THAT'S what tracking behavior is about.

If it becomes illegal to use tracking data to market -- kiss all that free news and other information you enjoy so much goodbye.
by clarkking (See profile) - May 5, 2006 5:05 PM PDT

No Problem with This

I don't have a problem with this kind of tracking.

1)If I get an email soliciting me such as this its highly likely that I have invited the contact through a past commercial relationship.

2) I would only visit their site if I'm interested in their products

3) If tracking what I look at on their site will help them tailor pitches to me based on my actual interests then thats all to the good as it keeps the time wasting to a minimum.

As previous posters have said, its no different than loyalty programs or having a sales rep on your shoulder. If you don;t want to be tracked at all on sites then don;t click links in emails. I can't see why some of you get all hot and bothered about this.
by JohnnyL (See profile) - May 4, 2006 2:19 PM PDT

Use it to YOUR advantage

Best way to stop invasive secret behavior is to turn it around and use it to your own advantage. If this will gain you cred to be invited to try out that new BMW 750, go for it! Please let us know the other sites we can have fun with.
by ltullos (See profile) - May 3, 2006 5:57 PM PDT
5 out of 5 users found this comment helpful

This is detectable by existing anti-phishing tools

This is detectable by existing anti-phishing tools. For instance if you read an email message containing such a link in FastMail.FM's webmail interface (and if you haven't disabled anti-phishing) such a link would be disabled and a warning message about possible phishing would be displayed.

They can easily bypass this by providing links in the same domain, but then they would not be able to sell their service without the client changing their webserver configuration.

Anyway, this is not as bad as it sounds. It about a sales person contacting an existing customer through email and suggesting something. It is reasonable that the salesperson would then try to give the best service to the customer with least customar effort. They don't have access to anything the customer does outside their own website, and they are not able to steal customer's "passwords" with this tool (at least not more than everyone is able to do without this tool if the customer is careless, and, say, reads email or surfs the web in an admin account under Windows ...)
by hadaso (See profile) - May 3, 2006 2:07 PM PDT

So you want to be an invisible shopper?

I guess it's different than being in an actual store. If I visit your store it's not wrong for you to approach me, seeing what I'm looking at and ask me more about my interest to help me shop and help you sell, but if I'm in your online store it's spying? Sounds kind of one-sided to me. If I don't want anyone to track anything I do I should probably stay offline.

Also, there are already analysis tools for pre-planning store-sites that will search all search-requests made for, say, a fiberglass tennis-racquet, then will track did the requester go to a site, and did they buy, and which pages drew them in.

It's not a brand-new or especially sneaky thing. It's just a part of what it takes to compete on the internet with thousands of other sellers, and it's smart business. If I can target customers interested in my products, then I don't have to sp*m evryone else who isn't.

How I follow-up, with polite inquiries and pertinent offers or with pushy misleading deceptions and hard-closes is simply a matter of my sales skills.
by njckrall (See profile) - May 3, 2006 10:14 AM PDT
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Need a Firefox extension

Firefox Extension Writers, take heed: This sounds like a great opportunity for a Firefox extension. It should be a very simple exercise to write an extension that cleans the URL and bypasses SalesGenius.
by skeatsjm (See profile) - May 3, 2006 8:35 AM PDT
5 out of 10 users found this comment helpful

It's not much different

This is only a step beyond what a lot of companies do already.

If you know your customer is from "somecompany", you can see in your
weblog the path that a guy from "somecompany.com" clicked through your
site.

If you send html email newsletters with a tool like Constant Contact, it tracks
exactly who clicked what links in the email.

And if you are a member of a loyalty program at a grocery store or video
store, they are tracking every item you buy and how much you spend.

Advertising will seep into every opening into your life. So now you will have
two choices... block yourself out of these tracking tools, and get 100,000
offers for things you may not want. Or let companies track what you are
interested in, and get 100 offers for things that you may actually want, based
on your lifestyle and past choices.

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. But I think we will all
get stuck with one or the other for the time being.
by bobotron (See profile) - May 3, 2006 7:47 AM PDT
5 out of 5 users found this comment helpful

Never be back

Any company or sales group I found using this would never get a penny of my business or anyone elses that I deal with.I am sick of company that track and spy on your every move.It's time people fight back and hit them where it counts..in their bottom line.
by wizardb (See profile) - May 3, 2006 6:42 AM PDT

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