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Sprint, Palm demo third-party apps on Palm Pre

by Bonnie Cha
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While we didn't get the release date or pricing of the Palm Pre at CTIA 2009, we did learn a few new things about the smartphone, which is better than nothing, we suppose.

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Fandango on the Palm Pre

(Credit: Bonnie Cha/CNET)

The first bit of news actually came out of the Web 2.0 Expo in San Francisco where Palm announced that it's ready to release the Mojo SDK to developers so they can create apps for the Pre and Palm WebOS.

Back here in Las Vegas, Sprint and Palm hosted a VIP Lounge where invitees could kick back and check out the Pre in a more intimate setting, away from the masses. I stopped by the lounge, and we were disappointed to learn that there's still a "look, but don't touch" policy (more on this later), but we were happy to see that they were demoing a number of third-party apps on the smartphone, which we really haven't seen before.

The first app I saw was Fandango. The movie ticket site was announced as a partner back when the Pre made its debut at CES 2009, but we finally got to see how it would work on the smartphone, and I've got to say, it's pretty sleek. You can view trailers, check show times, and buy tickets through the Fandango app. If you buy tickets, the Pre will even create a calendar entry to remind you about the show.

Next up was FlightView. This is a real-time flight-tracking app that's designed to make it easier for you to know the status of a friend's or family member's flight. It lets you view in-air maps, receive status notifications, and also offers Calendar integration. FlightView will also use the smartphone's GPS to find the nearest airport to your location

Perhaps the most exciting app for me was Pandora. I love music, and Pandora's introduced me to some great new artists, so it's wonderful to see the integration of the Internet radio service on the Pre. Even better, you can run Pandora in the background while using other applications and without having to go back to the dedicated app, you can use the notification bar along the bottom of the screen to check out what's currently playing and perform some basic functions (e.g., stop/pause, next track).

Last but not least, we got to see a couple of Sprint's services demoed on the Pre, namely Sprint TV and Nascar Sprint Mobile app. The latter lets you get live race audio, keep tabs on your favorite drivers, and receive alerts on their latest results, and so forth. Sprint TV, of course, allows you to access to programming from a variety of channels, including CNN, Comedy Central, Sprint Exclusive Entertainment. The video playback on Sprint TV wasn't all that great. Picture quality was choppy and at one point, there was a couple-second stall in playback. However, to be fair, we've seen this on other Sprint TV-enabled smartphones and cell phones.

In general, I was impressed with what I saw. There were, of course, some hiccups, but everything's still in beta stage and I understand there are issues to be resolved, so I'm not going to pass final judgment. The bigger picture is that the smartphone offers great multi-tasking capabilities, and this is where I think the Palm Pre trumps the iPhone. Being able to run and interact with Pandora while working in another application is just a great example of the Pre's multitasking capabilities. Well played, Palm, well played. Check out photos of the apps and more beauty shots of the Palm Pre above.

Bonnie Cha is a senior editor for CNET, covering smartphones and GPS. When she's not testing the latest gadgets, you can find her chasing after her crazy lab or surfing in the chilly waters of Northern California. E-mail Bonnie.

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by sting7k April 2, 2009 11:09 AM PDT
When is it leaving Sprint and will there be fart sound generators?
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by ucbedge April 2, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
No release date or pricing still?! Wow - this could spell real trouble for Palm.....
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by cmseeholzer April 6, 2009 9:08 AM PDT
I dont think it will in the long run because the pre is definitely worth waiting for. people are obviously impatient because people have been clamoring for price and release date for so long. but think, first half of 2009 ends in 2 months. we will definitely be hearing from palm sooner than later (well hopefully or i i will have to totally agree with you).
by BogusBasin April 2, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
Too little too late. Bye bye Palm. RIP. Amen
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by The_happy_switcher April 2, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
RIM a day late and a dollar short and Uncle Walt has given it the kiss of death:
http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/20090401/first-impressions-of-the-new-blackberry-app-store/
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by vivasm April 2, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
I agree, I also was impressed with what I saw. My question is at what price? Not the monetary price, but the "sacrifice" on the battery? If the Pre were to run Pandora 2 to 3 hrs a day, plus an active busy work day with enough juice to survive my ride back home, I would say awesome. This has yet to be seen. Also, the argument of saying that you can swap a battery because it has a removable battery doesn't appeal to me. It's the same as saying I can just plug in my current smartphone while at my desk. It's still a hassle to do, whether it is via changing a battery (which you have to charge anyway) or charge your phone while at your desk.
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by strykernyc April 2, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
From experience I can tell you that most phones if not all will kill your battery if you are streaming music from online or watching videos etc. For some reason when you are using the internet that's when the battery will drain quickly.
by odubtaig April 4, 2009 1:12 PM PDT
For 'some reason', see 'power required for communications'.

Voice still only uses pre-GPRS levels of data transmission and so will send/recieve the least data and use the transcievers the least while streaming music will fully utilise 2.5/3G levels of comms if it can. Bluetooth is also a sod for battery drain while WiFi... 54MBPS? Keep it light and maybe the drain will be minimal.

Regardless, improving battery tech will still improve on all of these.

Now, I'm still trying to work out why my phone has a FM radio. Useless.
by Adversuss April 2, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
Be wary of the negative comments a bout Palm, 46% or something of their stock is owned by short sellers so they might be trying to push the stock down.
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by BogusBasin April 2, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
46% owned by short sellers? Why would that be? Hmmm.

Palm is a me too company. Soon to be extinct.

Disclosure: Long AAPL
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by mishmash0101 April 2, 2009 1:04 PM PDT
This phone is absolutely no competition for the iPhone. And I don't even own an iPhone. Its THAT obvious.
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by mishmash0101 April 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
No one has to "try" to push Palm's stock down. Devices like this will do it automatically. Fandango is not a killer app. Neither is Pandora. And multi-tasking? There are three nerds who care about that and no one else. Have you read the iPhone message boards? No one there is asking for multi-tasking so its clear that millions of smart phone users don't think it matters. And if it did Apple would be incorporating that into Ver. 3.0 this summer.
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by qst4 April 2, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
This is hilarious. For a device that is no where near in the same league as the Iphone, that has no capabilities Iphone users need, it sure does receive a lot of attention form Iphone addicts.
by DrtyDogg April 2, 2009 1:55 PM PDT
Your are forgetting the millions more users who already have a multi-task capable phone. There are people in that category who will not switch phones without it.
by SuperCavey April 2, 2009 2:31 PM PDT
Getting people to want what they didn't know they needed is what business is all about. Ex. People didn't know they wanted a webcam in their laptop then all of a sudden its a standard feature. The Pre is going to be great phone as long as it promises what it says it will. I iphone wasn't planning on multitasking, if it does I have a feeling that it is going to have trouble running smoothly with multiple programs running at the same time
by patrick_i April 2, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
Remember that multitasking requires processing power and memory which generates heat and uses up battery life. I think Apple made battery life the priority, since even without the multitasking everyone was complaining about the battery life. Unless Palm has a really efficient processor or a really good battery, I wouldn't celebrate too much.
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by odubtaig April 4, 2009 1:02 PM PDT
Either that or they didn't just take a desktop kernel and try to shoehorn it into a phone.

How many critics here have shares in Apple? Hands up! Be honest now!
by aman_8505 April 2, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
iPhone>Rim>Palm
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by beefierben April 2, 2009 6:11 PM PDT
I held out on the iPhone since release and was willing to give the Pre a chance, but give me a break. I waited all day yesterday for Palm's "mystery" announcement to find out...

They released the SDK to more developers!

Yeah, my iPhone order has been placed.
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by DarkHawke April 2, 2009 10:38 PM PDT
You shoulda held out longer. Give it 2-3 more months and we'll know for sure if Palm has anything more than vapor, and if the new iPhone is coming out. A little more patience may yield a much bigger return.
by RobOakes April 2, 2009 7:14 PM PDT
I am a little skeptical of Apple's numbers on the background apps. I look forward to the release of 3.0 and the Palm Pre, so that other outlets can do direct comparisons. Apple has a long history of fudging things to justify their position.

From my very unscientific personal experience, I can't say that my iPod Touch's battery is any better than that of Palm or Windows Mobile units I've used in the past. And since jailbreaking a few months, I also haven't noticed much of a difference in the battery life (after I installed software that allows for background apps). I still have more than enough juice for my commute to and from work, light use of PIM applications during the day, and for media at the gym. In fact, I've found that both my Palm and Windows Mobile phones/handhelds lasted longer because I used them more for calendar/e-mail than for media (the primary use of the iPod Touch). My most recent handheld, a Palm TX, I could easily go for a week in-between charges. I wouldn't dare go that long on the iPod Touch.
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by AppleSuxLeo April 2, 2009 7:53 PM PDT
But the iPhone has thousands of useless apps , like "fart sounds" .
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by bob1xxxx April 4, 2009 1:50 AM PDT
ALRIGHT! that rocks!!!!!!! I just found my #1 reason to buy a Ipoo I mean Iphone LOL
by AppleSuxLeo April 2, 2009 7:55 PM PDT
The bigger picture is that the smartphone offers great multi-tasking capabilities, and this is where I think the Palm Pre trumps the iPhone. Being able to run and interact with Pandora while working in another application is just a great example of the Pre's multitasking capabilities. Well played, Palm, well played.
Ouch...that hurt ! Apple`s OSX has too big a memory footprint. for a "smartphone".
iPhone looks to be pretty dumb compared to the Pre.
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by DarkHawke April 2, 2009 11:20 PM PDT
It's a good thing (I think) that you at least got to SEE the Pre at CTIA, but no touchy? No pricing? No effin' RELEASE DATE? As they say on the interwebs, ***? This thing IS going to come out in the first half of THIS year, right? I don't care if the damn thing can multi-task as a sex toy, if it doesn't come out, it may as well not exist, and that the press couldn't even so much as *touch* the thing three months after it was announced and (hopefully) less than three months till it gets released is NOT confidence-inducing. The current iPhone might not be perfection, but at least if I wanted it, I could get it NOW, not at some unstated point in the future. Right now, the rumored 3rd-gen iPhone is looking like a more solid product and has a more firm release date!
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by darkpoet25 April 3, 2009 7:51 AM PDT
That sruck me as odd too. Why was no one from the press allowed to touch the Pre? I mean Bonnie even said the reps had to move it to take some freakin' pictures. Not to mention it was in front of a small group of press at that. Don't get me wrong, I think it has great potential(and I am an iPhone owner), but the fact that no one was allowed to test it out themselves makes me think something is up. If you want people to spread good word about your product, you would think they would allow more 'hands on' time. It's not like anyone could have walked out with one, given Bonnie said they had people standing near the entrance.
by dantheman1983 April 3, 2009 5:44 AM PDT
Apple still shines brighter. Sorry Palm. Better be real cheap, that is the only thing iPhone is not.
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by sting7k April 3, 2009 6:44 AM PDT
Fandango, a Flight Tracker, and Pandora... Been using those on my iPhone for a long time now. Yawwwwwwn...The Palm Pre is essentially dead to me as long as it is on Sprint.
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by friscoG April 3, 2009 9:22 AM PDT
Is docs to go or any type of office document viewer going to be included? I haven't seen anything about it.
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by SilvrNBlak April 4, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
Right now I have a Blackberry Curve 8330 from Sprint and I like it just fine, both the phone and the carrier.. I am curious about this new Palm Pre though. But Blackberry is a very good phone for what I need . I've never used the ipnone yet, I'm sure it's a good phone though it's with AT&T there is no AT&T where I live so it would be useless to me.. Sprint has been very good to me so I may check out this new phone Palm Pre..
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