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November 5, 2009 3:27 PM PST

How to record streaming audio

by Jasmine France
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These days, there is a plethora of audio content available to stream over the Internet. Even traditional terrestrial radio often offers content streamed over the Web, diversifying the choices for how consumers can enjoy music and other audio. Although the legality is questionable, there are--and will always be--ways to record these streams. Streamed audio recordings for music are not going to offer the same sound quality as a ripped CD or even a purchased MP3, but it's a good option for talk programs and mixes that might not be available in other formats. This tutorial will show you how to record streamed audio as an MP3; just be sure to read the usage rules for any recording source before beginning.

Editors' note: This tutorial was completed using Windows XP.

Cost: Free

Time commitment: Varies

System Requirements: Windows

For more than five years, Jasmine France has covered a variety of tech products for CNET--from scanners to keyboards to GPS devices--but she's happiest where she is now: sitting atop a pile of MP3 players, "testing" every music service known to man, and jamming a variety of earbuds in every shape and color into her absurdly small ears. E-mail Jasmine.
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by singleb September 4, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
great piece, except it fails to discuss the fact that Dell, Gateway and several other PC vendors have purposely handicapped the standard sound cards/chips that ship with their desktops and laptops, removing the necessary "Stereo Mix" or "What You Hear" device options that are necessary to record streaming audio with the method you have described. With some systems, it is possible to obtain updated drivers that restore this functionality, but you have to tread carefully since installing the wrong driver can disable the audio completely and force you to perform a system restore.

One cheap (@$3) and easy hardware fix is to buy a 3.5mm stereo audio splitter and short male-male 3.5mm stereo audio cable. Simply plug the main splitter lead into the sound card output jack (where you have your speaker cable plugged in), plug your speaker cable into one of the splitters, and then plug one end of the audio cable into the other splitter and the other cable end into the "line in" input of your sound card. Now you can select "line-in" as the device and start recording away!
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by sbruce45 September 6, 2008 6:13 PM PDT
singleb, thanks so much for your explanation as to why, with my Dell PC, I have not been able to use thse various programs that are supposed to record anything from my audio card. I did find a program that works, but it is not free, although fairly cheap. It is SoundTap and instead of taking input from linein or a microphone, it uses the sound card. Every other program I checked only shows linein or a mic.
by Brucate July 8, 2009 11:46 PM PDT
I found some other program that works, and this is the instruction on:<a href="http://www.recordstreamingaudio.net/how-to-record-streaming-radio.html">How to record streaming radio</a>
by Levifiction November 5, 2009 5:46 PM PST
Really? That's fascinating. I use StereoMix for recording with CamStudio so I like having it. Now I know that on both of my notebooks the StereoMix was disabled but enabling that was easy. I opened up my Recording Devices mixer (Vista) right-clicked and selected "Show Disabled Devices" then enabled the StereoMix from there. Had no idea they some companies completely disabled StereoMix.

But I've never heard of having to download the actual drivers to do it. Nice tip. I will have to keep this in mind next time I buy a laptop for school.
by jlt0x November 6, 2009 6:27 AM PST
Thanks for app and tutorial. Now I can make my own ringtones again for my Treo700w. I had some old MP3 music converter a while back, then the software was updated and the ability to capture any music from the sound card was disabled.

I'll use this software on my Acer Timeline (Win7) & Sony Vaio (Vista) laptops. I'll be able to definitely update my ringtones for my Treo. Thanks again.
by george_liquor November 6, 2009 10:48 AM PST
If all you want to do is record an internet radio station, get the streamripper plugin for Winamp. It automatically chops up individual songs into separate mp3s and applies the ID3 info to them. You also don't have to worry about noise from email alerts, etc ruining the recording. I've let it run overnight on a couple of stations and about doubled my mp3 collection.
by pjcamp September 5, 2008 6:30 AM PDT
You left a bit out -- disable system sounds. Nothing would wreck the listening experience more than listening to a Bach invention with an email notice in the middle of it.
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by gdcol1969 September 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
Seems to me the most logical course of action for this would be to....close your e-mail while recording. Just a suggestion.
by aslan0930 November 6, 2009 6:56 PM PST
@pjcamp Did you even read Step 2?????????? Ohh your one of those people who needs your mama to explain every little detail.
by MBEmerson September 5, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
Okay, I have a question about this. I have a Sirius subscription, with which I can listen to audio online. If I want to set a timer on my computer to record a Sirius show every day, can I do this?
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by berick September 6, 2008 4:02 AM PDT
If you are paying an additional 2.99 per month for the internet streaming you can, but with the free internet, you have to loginn with the graphic characters they use to confirm it is a human logging in. With that, you can't automatically login and listen. Als with the free one, if there is no activity for awhile, it'll stop the streaming.
by macstudly September 5, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
A better way to record streaming audio, especially internet radio, is to use the free software "Screamer". Get it at, http://www.screamer-radio.com/. Its free, it auto loads a database of internet radio stations when you start the program, you can enter your own URL's if needed, and it converts any audio streaming through the program into mp3 or other formats. Bunch of recording settings and if the radio station is tagging each song, Screamer will save each song as a unique file. Its incredible. Also, I don't think it uses the soundcard to record like the above noted program.
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by allyduan October 24, 2008 2:41 AM PDT
Recording streaming music, it is a good way to download songs from Myspace, AOL Radio station. As far as i know, it record songs from our sound card, so the quality is better than general sound recorder. http://www.flash-on-tv.com/streaming-audio-recorder.html oh, there is a online demo tell you how to record songs off Aol radio station.
by Brucate July 8, 2009 11:57 PM PDT
I found some other program that works, and this is the instruction on:[http://www.recordstreamingaudio.net/how-to-record-streaming-radio.html How to record streaming radio]
Streaming Audio Recorder is a good way to download songs from Myspace, youtube, etc.
by Murphdog101 September 5, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
does anyone know of a way to stream sirius and not only record it, but pause the stream? The way that a TIVO works with video.
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by TheFoghorns September 5, 2008 2:15 PM PDT
Streaming audio is a godsend for independent bands, who can now have their music played and get paid. Of all the tips and tricks you could give, this one is really slimey. You're giving advice on how to rip us off, and how to rip off struggling radio stations. Please, don't rip streaming audio-- buy the CD, or get an account with Rhapsody or something like that.
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by Jasmineflower September 9, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
Recording an Internet stream is akin to recording FM radio. Any recorded stream is not going to sound nearly as good as something ripped from CD or even transferred or purchased from Rhapsody. If people want something that sounds *good*, they will have to pay for it.
by rm204 September 9, 2009 4:01 AM PDT
I want to send a recording of a song to my brother on the rigs at BP, if he likes it he gets the cd for xmas. He gets regular podcasts from me of his favs. this is a benefit to the band not a detriment.
by billysive November 6, 2009 4:44 AM PST
to the previous posters - just because you can think of a good EXCUSE to do this - doesn't make it right.
by someguy7234 September 5, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
I used to do this quite a bit with Pandora. I saw an online forum that mentioned that if this became widespread that services like pandora would not be allowed to exist anymore. To me that seemed like a good enough reason to stop doing it, and just buy and enjoy my music the legal/ethical way. I still record audio streams from online broadcasts and VOIP meetings, but I think its kinda ****** to take advantage of other a very generous music listening policy laid out by pandora, LastFM etc.
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by someToast September 5, 2008 4:27 PM PDT
SoundExchange, the licensing arm the RIAA, lists stream ripping amongst their excuses for jacking internet broadcasting rates up beyond all sense of reality. Broadcasting rates that will cause innovative services like last.fm and Pandora to stop streaming altogether.

I pay to run a legal, licensed internet stream through live365.com. I'm paying nearly twice as much money this year to support half the listeners I did last year thanks to these rate hikes. Who do I contact at CNET about getting a check for the difference?
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by Elevatorboy September 6, 2008 6:22 AM PDT
Like someToast, I am a streaming 'caster and find your detailed instructions for stealing - yes, I said stealing - copyrighted material through stream-ripping reprehensible. Your suggestion that "... the legality is questionable..." is fallacious at best. It's wrong, period. Internet broadcasters are desperately attempting to educate consumers and legislators about the inequities in the current royalty structure which gives terrestrial radio a free ride while pounding the wallets of small webcasters who are trying to bring diversity to listeners. Internet radio is fighting for its life as it is. The RIAA and their cohorts in Congress don't need any help from Ms. France and CNET in hastening its demise.
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by Jasmineflower September 9, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
Actually, it's not fallacious. The legality of recording streamed *music* is questionable - the laws change frequently on the matter. Regardless, recording streamed audio isn't going to get you a high quality result...it's best for talk and other low-fi material - or figuring out which songs you want to purchase in a high quality format. There are applications and services out there that haven't been deemed illegal (BitTorrent, or Replay Radio, for example: http://www.replay-radio.com/) that offer much more questionable recording and acquiring practices for those who seek them out.
by May 20, 2009 7:59 PM PDT
No, it's not theft. Time-shifting of broadcasts has long been considered FAIR USE. As long as the person recording does not distribute it, he can listen to a previously recorded program. Music play via radio stations or internet radio stations is considered promotional use. The artist was paid via ASCAP for the broadcast, and the advertisers' ads would still be in the recorded version, so they got their part out of it. It's no different from people videotaping TV programs while they're at work and watching them later.
by george_liquor November 6, 2009 12:46 PM PST
Don't be so melodramatic. This is the internet equivalent of recording an FM station on a boom box. The person doing the recording still has no control over the playlist, and he still has to deal with whatever cross-fading, station IDs or commercials the netcaster chooses to add to the stream.
by tabulator32 September 6, 2008 6:58 AM PDT
I would suggest that the credentials of Jasmine France as a reporter are more questionable than the legality of the stream-ripping. It don't like any type of news media regulation, however, when people like the one who wrote this article blatantly toss out "tricks" to defeat the system and try to get something for free, they are just another petty thief sharing the tools of their trade.

Really...have some responsibility and self-respect as a reporter.

Yes, I take offense to your article as it seeks to do further damage to our industry and it teaches people how to break the law. Please retract this article and report responsible material going forward.
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by Jasmineflower September 9, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
There are much more questionable ways to acquire and record music (see BitTorrent and Replay Radio: http://www.replay-radio.com/) that are still "legal". This tutorial will not result in high quality audio recordings - it is most appropriate for talk and lo-fi - but it does allow people to listen more closely to a track so that they may decide if they would like to purchase a high quality version on CD or even in MP3 format. (Even a 256kbps MP3 purchased from Amazon or Rhapsody or Napster will sound noticeably better.) And it's not a "trick" - a plethora of recording programs and how tos can be found on the Web and are not deemed illegal.
by amdkilla November 7, 2009 9:19 PM PST
No-one wants to "defeat" the system, they just want it to work for them. If you really wanted to defeat the system, no doubt you would already be President of the universe with your signature on the moon.

As for it being "Our" industry, maybe we should take into account how the industry belongs to the companies and organisations that run it, not the end listeners. So in that respect, it isnt our industry at all.

Well as the postal strikes here in the UK have got everyone using other services such as UPS and CityLink, the music industry, or rather the licensing part of it will cripple itself and people will choose an alternative. People "Stealing" music doesnt really affect it at all, except in the way that the RIAA seems to have the "Frenzy Blinkers" on and only focusing on piracy, when they should be seeing how to evolve and designig a system that works properly. Apple managed it with iTunes, and they still abide by the crappy legislation that the RIAA has oozing out of every crevice.

Personally, I commend Jasmine France for putting together an easy step by step to recording streaming audio. She never once suggested that this guide was to be used for stealing, just for making a recording so you can listen to something at a later date. Heard of podcasts? Never hear a peep from the BBC or any other TV company about how people record their shows onto their computer. Sure, you may still have to pay your TV license, but then what if you pay for your streaming service? Like Spotify, or any other paid for streaming service?

You can take offense to whatever you like, but in no way does this article seek to damage to music industry. No doubt you will be taking offense to streetlights or how the sun shines by the end of the week.
by tabulator32 September 6, 2008 6:59 AM PDT
I would suggest that the credentials of Jasmine France as a reporter are more questionable than the legality of the stream-ripping. It don't like any type of news media regulation, however, when people like the one who wrote this article blatantly toss out "tricks" to defeat the system and try to get something for free, they are just another petty thief sharing the tools of their trade.

Really...have some responsibility and self-respect as a reporter.

Yes, I take offense to your article as it seeks to do further damage to our industry and it teaches people how to break the law. Please retract this article and report responsible material going forward.
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by darkpilgrim September 6, 2008 7:52 AM PDT
Theft is theft. Steal the music at your own risk. Bands work HARD to pay for studio time, production costs, materials, etc. If you really care, go buy the music.

CNET - What happened to you?
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by amdkilla November 8, 2009 8:18 AM PST
Yes bands do work hard to pay for the things they need for their music to be heard, but piracy really only affects those who are signed on with labels. That's how the RIAA see it. Thats the way our music industry is corrupt. Ideally, we need the music industry being run as one single Not-For-Profit organisation where all profits from the sale of the music either go straight to the royalties, or used as a basis to lower prices so that music is accessible to all.

Now that isnt going to happen is it? Realisticly?

It means getting rid of all labels, all record companies, everything, and having one central database for all music that is managed by a company that isnt run for profit but breaks even and focuses on music being accessible. Yes artists, it may be nice to get paid every time your song is on the radio, but surely its enough to be able to know that your song is being palayed on the radio without YOU having to pay per play like an advert would? Artists used to be about the music, now its about the money. It was sad to see Michael Jackson go, but I bet the money hungry people in the music industry were rubbing their hands together knowing sales would massively increase, while the world mourned the loss of a great musician.
by CasterBroad September 6, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
Hey, I can't wait for CNET's next article, "How to rob a bank: the perfect getaway car."
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by CasterBroad September 6, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
...and another thought, might I suggest an article on how to get away with shoplifting CDs? It's the same thing as streamripping.

Live365 Broadcaster
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by PhilMB September 6, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
Typical of the maggots that infect the Lame Stream Media -- this is a great example of the COMMISSION and OMISSION regularly practiced by the American Media. They are the first to scream bloody murder when people copy and reshow their content, yet they have no problem providing the methods to allow anyone to steal other content. I'm sure there is a method to this "Bread and Circuses" tip -- to allow RIAA more inroads into the legitimate uses of Time-Shift and Commercial Skip.

Delete this page from your site; it's not worthy of the C-Net brand.
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by Brucate July 8, 2009 11:46 PM PDT
http://www.recordstreamingaudio.net/how-to-record-streaming-radio.html
by 45sara September 6, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
Thanks, I will not record illegally. I will just record things that state they are available.
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by RenoDavid September 6, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
Wow people, calm down. There's plenty of legal audio this method could be used to record. Actually, i'm at a loss why anyone would want to record inferior-quality streaming music. XM sounds pretty crappy in my car, compared to what I get out of my iPod hooked up directly to my radio. It's OK for talk radio but music is very disappointing.
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by RenoDavid September 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
And also, time shifting content is perfectly legal, if I'm no mistaken. We all can't be at our computer when a certain show is being broadcast. None of you complainers have a VCR or a DVR?
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by john262 September 6, 2008 1:54 PM PDT
Thanks for this tutorial. Another way to record streaming audio is to simply use Real Player 11. It has built in stream ripping capabilities. And has been already mentioned in this thread, stream ripping can be perfectly legal under some circumstances. And if the RIAA doesn't like it, as far as I'm concerned they can go take a hike.
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by GunghoFilipino September 7, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
I don't know if anyone else has had this "problem," but I've notice that when i play back the songs that I recorded, they sound slower than the original content, and the pitch is a half-step down. Has anyone else had this problem, or am I the only one? Is there a way I can fix it?
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