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February 4, 2009 2:54 PM PST

Bump up your old iPod to 240GB

by Donald Bell
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Photo of Toshiba iPod hard drive.

How much storage can you cram into your old iPod? Try 240 gigs.

(Credit: RapidRepair)

I'll catch some hell for saying it, but Apple's fifth-generation iPod (aka the iPod Video) is one of the best hard-drive MP3 players of all time.

Say what you will about sound quality or the easily scratched screen, compared with today's iPod models the 5G iPod has a lot of advantages: it's compatible with just about every iPod accessory ever made; video output is built right in; you can use it with older computers and old versions of iTunes; and there are countless ways to hack and modify it. Unfortunately, the old guy just doesn't offer enough storage.

Don't throw out that old 5G just yet. Rapid Repair now offers a 240GB replacement hard drive specifically made for the 5G iPod (iPod Classic and Zune users will have to look elsewhere). Granted, the drive will set you back $294, but it could be worthwhile if you just can't live without your entire music collection in your pocket or you insist on listening to large lossless audio files.

I could also see the justification for upgrading if you've already invested in a lot of iPod accessories (speakers, car stereos, video docks) that won't work with new iPod models due to differences in voltage or video output. Spending $300 to upgrade an MP3 player you love makes much more sense than spending the same money to upgrade all your perfectly good iPod accessories.

Donald Bell is CNET Reviews' senior editor for MP3 players and portable audio, and one half of the MP3 Insider blog and weekly podcast. He also likes getting his hands dirty with digital audio tools for musicians and DJs.
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by polis12 February 4, 2009 3:40 PM PST
Anyone who needs to store that many lossless files on a portable music player I hope would be enough of an audiophile to look elsewhere than the iPod, because Apple's sound quality has always been severely lacking. I appreciate all the features of an iPod (especially the Touch), but the difference in my music is night and day compared to any Creative or even Toshiba player I've ever owned.

Plus, let's face it. The portable, small form factor HDD is dead with all the money being thrown at SSD nowadays. Even within the computer sector, sure we are hitting 2 TB drives, but look at how fast SSD drive prices are falling. It's astounding.
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by half_n_half17 February 4, 2009 7:06 PM PST
Many audiophiles use devices to bypass the iPod's digital-analog converters. The iPod's sound quality then becomes irrelevant.
by valgehiir February 5, 2009 5:01 AM PST
half_n_half17, I agree, iPod is a nice thing but to get best sound you need outside D-A converter and amp. Using good headphones like Shure SE503 or any Grado the difference in sound quality is huge.. meanwhile, the Touch is far worse in sound q than any Classic iPod.. love the Touch look and feel but DA and amp are crap. all for battery life I assume.. What is your favorite Da and amp, half_n_half17?
by polis12 February 5, 2009 6:47 AM PST
Yes, it is true most audiophiles will use additional hardware such as a high-end D-A converter but that kind of defeats the iPod's chief feature and allure: portability. Good luck walking around with a D-A converter in your back pocket.
by Notoapplefanbois February 5, 2009 8:10 AM PST
240GB, on a standard ipod? really? I mean no-one watch's films on their ipod video's and you'll only need 240gb of space if you fill it with films or you have more music than you could possibly listen to while being productive / alive.
by valgehiir February 5, 2009 8:15 AM PST
poli12, not really, if you have baggy jeans :) check out

http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17032008039mr5.jpg

fits allright
by valgehiir February 5, 2009 8:19 AM PST
sry, popup a on a link. this one's OK

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2441/17032008039mr5.jpg
by half_n_half17 February 5, 2009 8:58 AM PST
I don't use my iPod for serious playback so I can't really comment on a favorite D-A. What polis12 had to say is pretty much why I personally don't bother with them. As for my favorite amp... I'm a pretty big fan of Simaudio's Moon line. I also liked the Bryson monoblock I've heard. But in my home system I have a bi-amp with a modified Hafler 220 and a stock 200.
by b_baggins February 5, 2009 10:15 AM PST
No doubt they are, considering audiophile is pretty much a synonym for self-deluded snob. One of my favorite audiophile stories are of the ones who insist they can "just barely" hear 20 khz sound out of speakers that can only drive to 15 khz.
by valgehiir February 5, 2009 10:29 AM PST
Thanks, half_n_half17. Brystons are great! have Classe' 2A monoblocks at home, draged them from Toronto to europe few years ago :)
Yes, b_baggins, no doubt.
by oxtail01 February 4, 2009 3:50 PM PST
Is this writer for real? You have to be an absolute idiot to ask an average consumer to fork over $300 then open up the ipod and change out the hard drive. Jeez... why even bother to write such trash!
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by ag2311 February 5, 2009 12:39 PM PST
agreed. Also i dont understand why you would want a brick in your pocket
by checodaman February 4, 2009 4:06 PM PST
Going from 5gb to 240gb is technically a 235gb bump...details =)
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by Minotauro79 February 4, 2009 4:15 PM PST
Where does it say anything about 5 gb? I see 5G as in fifth generation.
by ThatIsWhatSheSaid February 4, 2009 5:16 PM PST
5G, not 5GB. Bloody hell.
by C433Z February 4, 2009 5:30 PM PST
Haha, epic fail!
by asnow02 February 5, 2009 10:29 AM PST
Oh dear, how embarrassing, what a tosser. Was the 5G the 30gb one?
by Mediaslave February 4, 2009 6:27 PM PST
Putting a giant harddrive in an old iPod is like putting powdered sugar on a coil of poop and calling it desert.

The new generation of players (Zune, in particular) are much better, and cost less then that hard drive upgrade alone.
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by ev61 February 4, 2009 11:39 PM PST
and hold less music and can't understand the concept of a leap year...
by ywkhgqo February 5, 2009 6:21 AM PST
@ev61
notice he said new generation
that only affected 30 GB zunes and it fixed itself the next day
nice try.
-Ipod owner
by wiredchicken February 4, 2009 7:06 PM PST
Im really puzzled by the title of this article, it says give your "5g Ipod a 240gb" , what exactly does '5g" mean? Fifth generation or five gigabytes???????
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by farker1 February 4, 2009 7:45 PM PST
hint: G has never meant GB
by aniruddha_s February 4, 2009 9:10 PM PST
The original 5G (G for generation) ipods were available with only 30GB and 80GB HDD.
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by ev61 February 4, 2009 11:39 PM PST
and 60GB
by Eric Mason February 5, 2009 5:01 AM PST
I have a 60GB...
by obviousanswers February 5, 2009 7:40 AM PST
Hmmm...

Well, it's not really a 240GB bump if I already have 80GB. Wouldn't that be a 160GB bump?

And why not just pick up a couple of used 80GB ipods for less than $200? That way I have extras if I ever need them, and I don't have to go through the whole "upgrade" hassle.

Also, three different people can use them at the same time, or you have three times the battery life, or connect one to the TV, one to the car, and carry the third.

Did I mention that it costs a lot less to get three times the ipods, not just three times the hard drive? Am I missing something here? Is there something life-altering about a large hard drive in an old ipod???
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by jsimonson0 February 5, 2009 11:23 AM PST
Actually, there is something QOL-altering about upgrading the 5th gen iPod. Somewhere in either the 6th or 7th gen iPod Classic, as well as the other iPod models about that time, the pin-outs were changed. Vehicles with iPod interfaces don't charge the newer devices. After a couple of housr of use, the charge is done on the device. The 5th gen iPod Classic still gets charged by vehicle, so upgrading the storage for use in the vehicle is a good thing...
by audiodonald February 5, 2009 8:01 AM PST
Alright, already! I changed the title. I really thought the most contentious thing here was my claim that the fifth-generation iPod was the best hard drive MP3 player ever. No one's going to throw out some arguments for the Cowon X5, Creative Zen Vision M, or Toshiba Gigabeat S? Really? I've never seen an "iPod is the best" claim go so unchallenged.
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by polis12 February 5, 2009 12:30 PM PST
I believe I did point out the features vs. sound quality issues in my initial post regarding the original comment surrounding audiophile lossless audio. I didn't want to name names so I simply left it at Creative and Toshiba = better sound quality in my humble opinion, while praising the features of such iPods as the Touch.
by Mediaslave February 5, 2009 9:09 AM PST
I wish I could pop in an arguement for the Cowan, Zen vision or Gigabeat S, but unfortuantely I only have had the iPod, which died in 5 months and was entirely underwhelming, a few other iPods and currently a Creative Zen.

I will say solidly that the iPod is the best example of marketing overshadowing performance in ...well just about forever really. :)
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by sphinxrb February 5, 2009 11:31 AM PST
A new 160GB ipod classic is about $300. Why go though all that? I have a 160GB, I have almost 10,000 songs, only have used 40GB of it so far.
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by quasi888 February 5, 2009 1:11 PM PST
Why this upgrade makes sense for me:

- My $900 Pioneer car receiver/DVD player (purchased about 3 years ago) came with an iPod interface cable that works only with the 5G and older models. Purchasing a newer iPod would no longer integrate with my Pioneer.

- Many of you seem to forget the "video" part of it. (Its official name was the "iPod Video", after all.) My 80gb iPod is heavily used for video. While my entire music collection accounts for 20% of its capacity (and yes, it IS nice to have your entire music collection at your disposal), the remainder is filled with video. I have 2 young kids, and on long drives, or trips to their grandparents, it's nice to be able to have ALL of their favorite videos (movies I've ripped from our DVDs, or TV shows downloaded from iTunes) in one device without having to fumble with multiple DVDs. For me, it's an easy, portable way to catch up on entire seasons of my favorite shows.

- As the article alludes, a 5G iPod can output video to a TV with a standard $7 A/V cable through the headphone jack -- as opposed to current iPods that require the purchase of Apple's "special" $50 dock connector cable.
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by zero_g_ February 8, 2009 3:26 PM PST
Not a bad upgrade, BUT...

How far away are we from getting a SSD version with, say, 400GB? *drool*
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by m1five February 12, 2009 4:51 AM PST
I use my 80GB 5G ipod video to play videos on TV at home, at friend and relatives homes. When we have family get together's i sometime take my ipod, my ipod dock and play movies on the TV for the children to watch.
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by bluemudkipz February 21, 2009 4:46 PM PST
Problem is, if you have such a large music collection to need a memory upgrade, then you're obviously very attached to your music. It seems to me that you'd have to re-sync all of your music onto the new hard drive, which could take a pretty long time. Plus, what if it doesn't work out? It's not just the $300 that goes down the drain; so does your iPod and possibly your accessories too.
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