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Next iPod Touch may be extremely wireless

by Donald Bell
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As programmers continue to pick apart the code underlying Apple's iPhone 3.0 OS, details are surfacing that point to possible new hardware features for both the iPhone and iPod Touch. One of the first details unearthed from the code is the addition of stereo Bluetooth-audio streaming--a feature that current (second-generation) iPhone and iPod Touch owners will be able to take advantage of once the new OS is available this summer.

Apple iPod Touch

The Apple iPod Touch (second generation).

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET)

Of course, some new features will be available on the next generation of the iPod and iPhone hardware only (ain't that always the way?). Case in point: rumors of high-speed 802.11n Wi-Fi capabilities, as well as FM radio transmission. The combination of stereo Bluetooth, improved Wi-Fi speeds, and short-range FM transmission, are compelling and competitive features on a phone, but they'll really put the iPod Touch in a class of its own when it comes to portable media players.

Not everyone will be thrilled with the changes. Accessory manufacturers such as Belkin, Griffin, and DLO, have been churning out iPod-compatible FM transmitters for years. If integrated FM transmission really does come to the iPod Touch (and perhaps other iPod models down the line), the effect could mean the end of stalwart products like the iTrip. There's always a chance that Apple will require users to purchase FM transmitter Apps to enable the functionality (just like they did with voice recording), in which case third parties can still get a cut. With the playing field leveled, however, a Griffin-branded FM transmitter App faces the same chances at being downloaded as a free App from a rogue upstart. I'm drifting into a speculation tangent here, but needless to say, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Photo of Griffin iTrip.

Cheer up, Griffin. FM transmitters like the iTrip may be on their way out, but we'll always need in-car charging adapters.

As for Wi-Fi speeds, the current iPhone and iPod Touch models support 802.11a networks (5GHz), or 802.11b/g networks (2.4GHz), which are becoming increasingly common on portable devices (Zune, PSP). Apple already includes 802.11n support on its Macbooks and AirPort Base Stations, so it's a natural move to add it to the iPhone and Touch. The increase in speed should be noticeable, provided you're on a Wi-Fi network that supports the 802.11n standard. Those of us still surfing on common b and g routers will still be getting the same old Wi-Fi speeds, though. In fact, since lots of people are still in the dark about 802.11n and dual-band routers, I expect there will be an opportunity for Apple to market their latest dual-band Airport Extreme Base Station as a must-have accessory for every iPhone and iPod Touch user.

If the iPod Touch is really to become the mobile-gaming platform Apple wants it to be, the boost in Wi-Fi speeds may open up some interesting gaming possibilities. Specifically, online multiplayer games may become more viable, as actions between players would be communicated with less latency.

Online video streaming and downloads will also benefit from the possible increase in Wi-Fi speed. Common gripes such as download speed, video quality, and streaming bandwidth would all be eased with a little 802.11n thrown in the mix.

So what do you guys think? Are any of these rumored wireless technologies enough to sway you to the next-generation iPod Touch or iPhone? What else could Apple throw in to sweeten the deal (am I the only one who wants a camera on the Touch)? Share some feedback in the comments section.

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Donald Bell is CNET Reviews' senior editor for MP3 players and portable audio, and one half of the MP3 Insider blog and weekly podcast. He also likes getting his hands dirty with digital audio tools for musicians and DJs.
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by ikramerica--2008 April 6, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
What about wifi syncing? This is a major shortcoming of the product now. No reason to use up a USB port or need to plug in your iPhone (especially if you normally keep the charging cable by the bed) if you have Wifi built in. Just pair the phone to the machine that has the iTunes library it is linked to, enable "wake on LAN" capabilities at both ends, and add a simple sync app on the phone. The phone app would wake the Mac, launch iTunes, sync, and then quit iTunes (if iTunes was already open, it would stay open). The iTunes side would permanently show the paired iPhone/Touch in Devices, offer a sync feature that wakes the phone, etc. We know Apple can do it. The question is simply why it hasn't been done yet...
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by pjhenry1216 April 6, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
Having a constant connection like that would drain the battery. Requiring the phone to stay connected to the network the entire time, even when asleep, just doesn't sound like a good idea. Plus, true wake on lan on the phone is a bad idea as that would require it to have its wireless system turned on even when the phone is turned off. Though, I'll agree that wifi syncing would be nice. WiFi syncing, inductive charging, and stereo bluetooth would truly make it wireless.
by sanjayb April 6, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
They do have wi fi syncing for podcasts but it's a half assed implementation.
by Dalmatian28 April 6, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
Why bother with syncing when you still can't even take average picture with iPhone. One thing I would like to see is 5 + MP camera that can also shoot videos at 720 resolution. Another thing...get the option to replace the battery, this junk can't last longer than four hours. Lets get basics worked out first and then will go to more advanced stuff! I wish that they learn how to "walk" before they try to run!!!
by seven7dust April 6, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
@Dalmatian28
those 5 mp cameras are worthless too
lets face it Phone cameras suck no matter how many megapixels they have
they all suffer with bad image quality which is wat I as a user care about
resolutions matter little ,add in the pathetic Zoom and bad Shutter speed and your not getting much with the pixel race except increase the Size of the Device

I would Hope that Apple doesn't Fall into this type of cheap marketing !
but I have Hope for the New Dock Connector
which might be a great way to get a decent lens though
by DarkHawke April 6, 2009 6:34 PM PDT
Wifi syncing is kinda useless when you need to recharge the phone every night. If it had battery enough that you could go 2-3 days of average use without recharging, then sure, but if you have to plug it in every time you come home (or every time you can!), what's the big in sticking it in a dock connected to your 'puter and let the syncing happen at the same time?

On the other note, let us PLEASE not ask for more than we really need out of the iPhone's camera. Minimum 3 megapixels and native video recording support is a given, but if you need up to 5 megapixels, let alone HD video, get a separate device and give your CELL PHONE a break, huh?
by oassaf April 7, 2009 12:41 AM PDT
Not too mention that sometimes it can take a few minutes for a iPhone to fully sync and backup via USB, how long you think that would take over wifi?
by kylebuttermore April 6, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
if they add a built in fm transmitter, inductive charging/syncing, and stereo bluetooth i would definitely buy it, and i hate all apple products.
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by pjhenry1216 April 6, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
As the current 3G model will be gaining stereo bluetooth, I'm fairly certain the new model with have stereo bluetooth as well.
by Real23 April 6, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
very funny comment.
by blusky08 April 7, 2009 8:50 AM PDT
The iPod needs to fully support VOIP with the addition of an iPhone-type speaker and mic. Millions could cut the cord with both their wireless and home phone providers by using the iPod as a phone via Wi-Fi.
by pjhenry1216 April 6, 2009 12:17 PM PDT
If they could throw in the capability of installing apps not from the app store, that'd be awesome. Its not like the iTunes music store was hurt even though you were always able to download pirated music long before it came out (plus legally purchased music from elsewhere as well). Giving people options is always a good thing.
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by Kontracnet April 6, 2009 6:41 PM PDT
"Giving people options is always a good thing."

Right, because we're all using Linux now.
by lavery2136 April 6, 2009 7:31 PM PDT
No, but some people are...

and your obviously using a mac, do you really want the market leader to be the only option?
by sanjayb April 6, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
I would like to see HD compatibility. More and more podcasts such as CNET are how in high def. It would be nice to play the high def podcasts on the ipod touch.
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by Mr_Kee April 6, 2009 12:26 PM PDT
An FM transmitter would be nice, but how about an FM reciever??? 25 years ago when I was in grade school I had a wrist watch that you could plug headphones into and listen to FM radio. I think it is very odd that today's most popular music listening devices can't even pick up a simple radio station.
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by JulianDave April 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
The Zune already has an FM receiver AND wifi sync.
by Jayemmbee April 6, 2009 4:50 PM PDT
preach on JulianDave
by DarkHawke April 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT
Check the Gizmodo link--they're talking about FM reception as well...which actually makes me think the whole FM-whatever rumor is just so much hokum. The day The Jobs puts a tuner of any sort on any Apple product, expect a huge requisition from Hell for ice skates!
by moretroops April 6, 2009 6:48 PM PDT
Seriously, who listens to FM radio anymore? You, right, I get it. But still, for the other 95%, who gives.
by Dalkorian April 8, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
That may be true JulianDave, but you have to suffer a zune. Something about a music player that needs to know todays date so badly that if it *thinks* it's being lied to it bricks the device (30G zune's leap-day flaw anyone?) doesn't sit right with me. Especially coming from the same company that gave us the WGA "kill-switch" that locked people out of their own computers because of a betaware glitch that was foisted upon unsuspecting users as a "critical security update".

I'd rather be whipped with barbed wire than ever be forced to suffer a zune, thanks.
by gmhead April 6, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
There isn't an 802.11n standard. Yet.
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by george_liquor April 6, 2009 8:51 PM PDT
Yeah there is. It's called 802.11n, and I'm using it right now.
by wiredaus April 17, 2009 3:09 AM PDT
No there isn't. 802.11n is not finalized yet. You're using a draft.
In any case, I doubt anyone will notice any difference between g and n on the touch. The limiting speed would be your internet connection, and the processing power of the ipod.

Of course, it looks good for marketing, and the average consumer would be easily taken in by things like that, along with high-megapixel cameras.
by Magic_Krist April 6, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
I like the iPod Touch and wanted to buy one as a replacement to the PDA I'm currently using as a media device. However, the lack of blue tooth capability has kept me from buying one. It seems silly to be connected to the rest of the world wirelessly, only to have to rely on a wire to run the last 2 feet from the device to your ear. Once these new devices hit the market, I'll reconsider.
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by April 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT
Well with an FM transmitter I could see many new iPhone to iPhone Apps like games that challenge two or more people in the same room to play against each other.

The feature I want to see on the next iPhone is an OLED display. That would not only use less energy it would free up space for a bigger battery so you could greatly increase battery life.
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by DarkHawke April 6, 2009 6:53 PM PDT
Well, actually, part of the Bluetooth enhancements is to allow that kind of ad-hoc PvP action, so you won't need any FM transception to do that. Your OLED idea is great, though. So great, I really wouldn't be surprised to see it, if not in the next generation, certainly next year. That'll be AFTER I get my iPhone, so that'll make FOR SURE that it'll happen! ;)
by karlwireless April 6, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
Who cares about FM transmitting. The quality is the pits anyways. Wireless Sync would be nice...the A2DP is super.

Karl
www.westsidegadgetguy.com
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by Sgr76 April 6, 2009 2:04 PM PDT
All of the bells and whistles are worthless if the plan prices don't change. What ever happened to customer loyalty? If they don't do something about it, i will take my number and get one of those $50 monthly plans from boost that includes everything. It's starting to reach a point where having a nice phone isn't worth it.
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by kenflack April 6, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
The feature I am looking for most on the touch is the ability to use it as a WIFI phone (Mic and Speaker) integrated.

I refuse to purchase an I Phone/multi year plan yet want the functionality to use with a touch using my Skype account via WIFI.
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by April 10, 2009 7:32 AM PDT
And what is so difficult about buying an iPhone on eBay that has already been activated?
by nowimcool April 6, 2009 2:20 PM PDT
I tried a bunch of FM transmitters with my ipods (past and present) where I live (in a city) and they never transmitted at FM radio quality! (in the country - yes; city - never!) there was always a lot of 'noise' - no matter which channel I tried. I ended up installing an ipod plug-in into my car stereo - best decision I've made!
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by alh840001 April 6, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
I would love to see wireless charging. Don't laugh, it is possible. I want a single mat to plug in that I can lay my phone, camera, etc. on to charge.
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by oassaf April 7, 2009 12:55 AM PDT
This item my friend does exist, I cannot remember its name but I saw it in Sky Mall while on a flight once..it is very cool and very handy, they only had it compatible with moto's and blackberries at the time...i found this i believe it is different from what I aw in Sky Mall

http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/16/view/5025/ces-2009-powermat-wireless-charger.html
by ChewableFood April 7, 2009 8:24 AM PDT
Well, the upcoming Palm Pre will do it.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pres-wireless-charger/
by rapjul April 6, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
Hay, Donald Bell, I want a camera in the iPod Touch too.
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by Chaosthoery April 6, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
This is bull, I just a touch and probably as early as summer I going to have the last gen model. I'm Glad I don't have the money because I would be buying it too, no lol, because it not funny.
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by ThatIsWhatSheSaid April 7, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
Huh?
by MrRugger April 6, 2009 6:32 PM PDT
Sounds very interesting indeed. However, I wouldn't pony up to purchase it. Not after just buying the 3G at xmas. Just to close to the last generation. I"ll just upgrade to 3.0 in the summer after the Beta is worked out, then purchase an iphone 4th generation when it comes out in a couple of years (or next year, as you never know).
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by startouch April 6, 2009 6:56 PM PDT
THAT WOULD BE COOL "N" AND A WEB-CAM ON THE FRONT OF A 10" I-POD TOUCH WOULD *HOTTT* !!!
I WANT A SUPER AWSOME PORTABLE MULTI-MEDIA 10" I-POD TOUCH !!!!! ( AND I DONT OWN AN "APPLE " ANY THING) BUT I WOULD BUY IT IN A SECOND !! (I SAW A POSIBLE LEAK ON THE WEB NOT TO LONG BACK AND TOTALY FREAKED)
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by ywkhgqo April 7, 2009 8:07 AM PDT
lol at this comment
by ThatIsWhatSheSaid April 7, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
Umm, wouldn't that just be a Netbook that runs iTunes?
by patrick_i April 6, 2009 8:03 PM PDT
I think a lot of people are forgetting that the iPhone is a "phone" first and foremost. Any features that it has or will have will have to be compromised in some way to make sure that it functions well as such in terms of battery life, portability, call/signal quality etc. Why do you even need 5MP or HD video recording, FM transmission, stereo bluetooth (I haven't heard a set of bluetooth headphones that sound better than a $7.99 set of cans)? Taking the images and storing them uses up more resources than they are worth as a feature. Granted some people will have a use for those features but I'd also like the phone to stay on for an average workday. It's the freakin "I'm American and I can have it anyway I want even if I don'et need it" Burger King mentality that the whole world hates about us. I actually saw someone at a freaking food court no less get mad because he couldn't get his side salad exactly the way he wanted it.
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by blusky08 April 7, 2009 8:54 AM PDT
HD would be beneficial if they can extend battery life.
Imagine hooking up an iPhone to the TV and streaming HD movies....add a keyboard and external monitor, and this thing could replace netbooks.
by April 7, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
The phone feature on the iPhone is just one more feature. Smart phones like the iPhone are the world in your hand. Get used to it! If you don't want a feature or an App turn it off. The rumor is that Apple will be putting out a cheap stripped down version that is more of a phone you might like instead. For me I use my iPhone as a pocket computer/camera/voice recorder/planner/GPS/MP3 player/calculator/language translator oh and a phone.
by j4jealousy April 6, 2009 8:33 PM PDT
GPS, baby! Gee. Pee. Sexy.
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by tcsuliv April 6, 2009 9:14 PM PDT
Well, unless they also include a camera on the front for videoconferencing and something better than a dinky camera that's under 5MP (phones in Japan are up to 8MP), I'll hold my breath. Maybe a 1seg TV receiver as well?
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