September 23, 2009 12:25 PM PDT

What a letdown: Sweet new Walkmans not for U.S.

by Jasmine France
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The better S-Series

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It was a sad day when I reviewed the second-gen Sony S-Series Walkman. We expected a worthy successor to this fantastic MP3 player and instead were met with a mere shadow of the device and its former glory. True, you still get top-notch sound quality, impressive battery life, and even the added bonus of external speakers, but what happened to my podcast support, upgraded headphones, expanded sound enhancement options, interface personalization, SensMe Channels, and Rhapsody DNA?

Well, most of those things got funneled into the "expanded" S-Series, the S640 and S740 lines, which--naturally--Sony has no intention of offering to U.S. buyers. (The speaker-sporting model is the S540.) These two players differ in only one way: the S740 offers integrated noise canceling, whereas the S640 does not. Other than that, both devices include just about everything that made the original S-Series Walkman so freakin' sweet, plus the ability to output to a TV and what appears to be some sort of audio recording option. Oh, and it's available in a 32GB option. You're killing me, Sony!

A-Series Walkman: such a tease

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Adding insult to injury is the Japan-only release of a next-gen A-Series Walkman, a seemingly spectacular MP3 player with a 2.8-inch WQVGA OLED screen. It offers an S-Master digital amplifier, FM radio, digital noise canceling, and the ability to output to TV at 720?480. The package also includes Sony's MDR-EX300SL earphones (i.e. not shoddy stock earbuds). Oh, and have I mentioned it's available in capacities up to 64GB? Seriously. Killing. Me.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to write a strongly-worded letter.

(Via SonyInsider)

For more than five years, Jasmine France has covered a variety of tech products for CNET--from scanners to keyboards to GPS devices--but she's happiest where she is now: sitting atop a pile of MP3 players, "testing" every music service known to man, and jamming a variety of earbuds in every shape and color into her absurdly small ears. E-mail Jasmine.
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by Kooblu September 23, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
They both look great, great design great specs.. Why is Sony always so half baked about their business strategy? Why have'nt their MP3 players always performed and looked this good? I keep expecting this company to have a little more bite going up against Apple, and yet they always fail hard at something. If at nothing else than inexplicably leaving their best products off our shelves...
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by coloringpagefinder September 23, 2009 3:48 PM PDT
wow these look like so much fun. Ide pick some of them up

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by Rod Roddy September 24, 2009 11:29 AM PDT
Sony Walkmans are soooo 80's. It's all about iPod Touch and Zune HD here in the U.S. Just keepin' it real.
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by shesaidwhaaat September 24, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
Those walkmans are so much better than Zune. 80's? no. Just keeping it real ;)
by mike1881 September 25, 2009 7:34 PM PDT
arite bud before you talk again, look up the archos 5 android. that will shed some light on what a real PMP/IMT is supposed to look like and do.
by September 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
Have you ever tried a current-gen Sony Walkman? They are better than iPods and Zunes in every way that matters. That is, if you like music. Maybe you just prefer Fart Apps.
by P_R_E_P01 September 24, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
Funny that I read this whole article on my iPod Touch.
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by ccmike72 September 25, 2009 9:28 AM PDT
yawn.
by sahilk September 25, 2009 5:44 PM PDT
lol :)
by Paul_Christie September 27, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Wow. You're cool...
by JWolford September 27, 2009 5:57 PM PDT
Funny how your eyesight is going to go out in 6 months.
by KevinK September 24, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
These will probably be pretty readily available in the gray market, (and eBay) however the FM tuner will probably not be compatible with US standards unless the tuning range is configurable. (Japanese FM band is 76 - 90MHz as compared to the U.S. FM band which is 88 - 108MHz)
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by mbenedict September 26, 2009 7:23 AM PDT
Yea tell me about it, got an older Sony as a gift but can't use the FM band... like virtually all of their mp3 players the FM range in NOT configurable. I think it's because these units are certified only to the Japanese standards and never submitted to the FCC.
by budha1979 September 24, 2009 12:10 PM PDT
I am not sure this is correct.. i couldnt find any info anywhere regarding their apparent unavailibility in USA.
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by Jasmineflower September 24, 2009 4:23 PM PDT
I spoke to Sony reps in order to get the information on U.S. availability. As of press time, Sony had no plans to release the players here. However, no one is saying the company can't change it's mind! Here's hoping. :)
by ChompChomp September 25, 2009 5:06 AM PDT
Jasmine - do you think you could also talk to Sony reps about a different naming strategy for these darn things? Not only are all these numbers confusing to the consumer, but I ordered an S series Walkman awhile back after reading your review and the RETAILER actually sent the wrong model. But who can blame them?! So, instead of getting an S series I was sent an inferior E series, which I returned only to find out the S series was out of stock. I ordered a Sansa Clip instead. Lose the numbers Sony!!
by mbenedict September 26, 2009 7:18 AM PDT
What kills me is Japan's FM frequency is different from ours... otherwise I'd buy one grey-market (I'd even be willing to pay a high premium for the upcoming A-series compared to the iPods).
by make_or_break September 26, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
@ChompChomp,
I used to think the same way about Sony's branding strategy, but now that I've been a Walkman user for the last three or so years I've gotten used to its quirks. That's not to say that casual users wouldn't benefit from a clearer product identity, but the alphanumeric soup that Sony uses does make some sense...from a certain point of view. Too bad it probably takes a night course at a local community college for the average consumer to make sense of it all.
by ChompChomp September 27, 2009 3:18 PM PDT
@Make_or_break,
Yeah, I'm sure it makes sense to Sony but really what's wrong with using the "Walkman" name in the same way Apple uses "iPod"? As in, why can't we have a Walkman Touch, Walkman Nano, Walkman Classic, etc? Walkman is such an iconic name that it seems a waste to water it down with a series of numbers and letters with these products. They're WALKMANS Sony, not apartment numbers...
by galaman12001 September 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
Preoblem is that here in the usa it's all about the itouch and apps, people here would rather spend 200-400 dlls on an ipod touch than on a top of the line pmp player with exceptional sound.

I would love to be able to get my hands on one of these, i think the Sony Walkman X series is very expensive for 16 gb at 300 dllrs, if it was the 32 gb version at 300 i would have got it the day it came out.

on a side note i'm very happy with my 32gb zune hd (with zune pass), very solid product by microsoft, my itouch has begun collecting dust because of this, i hope now with the zune hd people start giving pmp's not made by apple a chance.
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by Barksfan September 24, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
I've been waiting for a 64gb flash memory device for a while now. I'm using a 32gb Zen along with a 32gb sd card for a total fo 64gb. Small (but good quality) screen and non-integrated memory card make this a less than ideal player though it has lasted me over 18 months and is still going strong. There is a new Zen (X-FI2) with a touch screen and a micro Sd card (biggest Micro sd 16gb correct?) that comes as large as 32gb. This makes for a 48gb flash player. The Sony would have fit the bill nicely assusming the price is tolerable - why would they cede this part of the market to Apple - the product is already developed and ready to go (with a tweak to the FM tuner). This leaves the I-touch as a leading contender for my money (even though my previous experience with I-Tunes was very negative
I'm waiting a little longer to see if Sandisc comes out with a new model or not. The Newest Samsung is quite nice (my son bought an 8 gb one) but with no expansion slot, it is too small - as is the new Zune. The other intriguing player is the Creative Zii but it may be 6 months away from release (32gb on board and a regular size SD card slot). An amazing device, hopefully it is realease sooner than I think.
Any suggestions ?
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by Jasmineflower September 24, 2009 4:27 PM PDT
The Zen X-Fi2 does support MicroSD HC cards, which *currently* go up to 16GB, but we're expecting 32GB any day now...AND Creative has purportedly fixed the issue with SD card integration. Another option would be the Archos 5, though it's not particularly pocket-friendly. I'm not sure why, but I've always gotten the sense that SanDisk has no plans to offer a player with 32GB or more integrated...but I could be imagining things!
by mike1881 September 25, 2009 7:49 PM PDT
@ Jasmine and Barksfan
i agree with Jasmine about the Archos 5, accept the Android version of it will in fact be pocket friendly and feature a 4.8 inch screen. i highly recommend that you look into this, barksfan because it is available in flash drives up to 32 gb (and soon will be released up to 64 gb) and in hard drive up to 500 gb (yes 500 gb). the flash drive versions of the Archos 5 Android also have the micro sd slot and you can actually hook an external hard drive up to them through a dock. the other benefits that the Archos would have are HD video output (not radio like that cheap Zune offers), DVR, GPS, apps, an 800x480 resolution, mini usb slot on the device along with its regular hook up, bluetooth, wifi (802.11 b/g/n), built in speakers, microphone and legstand, and it plays pretty much any file type accept Apples encrypted AAC. it does play regular AAC files though. so there you go, ive given my commercial for the Archos.
by JCPayne September 24, 2009 4:48 PM PDT
I used to buy only Sony-Ericsson, but I've given them up. I purchase a W710a and I can't even use MP3s as ringtones. I called Sony, and their response was, because the carrier purchased the phone and I purchased it from them I'm not allowed to use MP3s. I'd have to buy my ringtones from the carrier instead. I asked if I could send the phone back to Sony and get it flashed with the generic OS that doesn't have these foolish restrictions on using my own music. They said if I send in the phone they will only send me back a crippled version of the software that doesn't allow the usage of MP3s as ringtones. I told 'em for get it... I got this purchase wrong I should have just purchased a iPHONE.
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by randomsvx September 24, 2009 4:59 PM PDT
I am totally with you Jasmine. Sony, and other companies for that matter, always offer such great devices but they never sell them in the US. Including several american companies. If you want a petition you can sign me up.
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by norbert6464 September 24, 2009 5:50 PM PDT
No surprise. Japan got iPods in like 1983. The Pacific is more like the Berlin Wall. We're stuck over here in gray, lifeless, tech crippled soviet horror while the West drowns in their pile of technologically advanced utopia of modern aged life.

Oh, and just give the poor guy a call.
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by play7 September 24, 2009 7:26 PM PDT
hello? anyone home? No they seems to be gone : /
by pickles319 September 26, 2009 8:21 AM PDT
Um, you do realize that the iPod was developed by Apple, which is an American company. And it was nowhere even close to being developed in 1983, that was still the days of the Apple II.
by norbert6464 September 27, 2009 8:33 PM PDT
Sarcasm guys, wow.
by TheraCaffe September 24, 2009 5:56 PM PDT
Japan is getting revenge on Microsoft for not releasing the Zune HD in the states. Bastards! >.<"
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by make_or_break September 26, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
Huh? Don't you mean 'for ONLY releasing the Zune HD in the states'?

Besides, why would SONY, whose PS3 is archrival to the 360, give a rat's ass on Microsoft's Zune US-only strategy anyways? They're probably GLAD that the Zune HD isn't in Japan...the Touch and other iPods are enough competition as it is.
by play7 September 24, 2009 7:20 PM PDT
Oh sure they are only here in Japan.......... maybe they at sony knows that Ipod is not he popular in Jpan here. Thats why..........Smart move by Sony. "FOR ONCE" Yen 23,800 ?16GB? Yen 29,800 ?32GB?Yen 23,800 ?16GB?Yen 39,800?64GB?................ With a limited edition wriste strap included Walkman A840 series...........Looks lice they sell many here in Japan.
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by play7 September 24, 2009 7:29 PM PDT
here read this is japanese for yourself..............


http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200909/09-0916B/
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by play7 September 24, 2009 7:30 PM PDT
BTW there is a nice little video .............check it out http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200909/09-0916B/
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by madonna915 September 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT
I was wondering when will creative ZEN will update the Creative Zen Vision M... any news...
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by Jasmineflower October 5, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Creative has no plans to do so. Boo.
by Vepar_S September 25, 2009 4:25 AM PDT
Ah! They look so cool and the specs are nice, what a shame. Who knows they may come to the US in the future.....=/
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by Weudel September 25, 2009 6:11 AM PDT
multiple other websites are reporting that the A840 will be available in the US around Halloween time. With price points for the 16 GB ($263), 32 GB ($329), and 64 GB ($439) varieties... I love the look of the brown one, but don't see that justifying paying $130 more than the S-Series for the 16 GB iteration, especially when I'll be using it with an FM transmitter most of the time....
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by play7 September 25, 2009 7:00 PM PDT
rumors.................oh lovely the crap is starting to fly as they say
by ArmyofGoats September 25, 2009 8:34 AM PDT
I've been using a 20 gb sony walkman (nw-hd5) for over 4 years now. It's been a great mp3 player - simple to use, long lasting battery and very small for a 20 gb player at the time. Sadly i've been waiting for Sony to release a decent upgrade for a long time now and they continue to disapoint. I've purchased 5 different mp3 players trying to replace my old clunky hd5 and I've since given them all away. I thought the new nwz would be the one but I'm concerned about the compatibility with my imac. To be honest I'm not thrilled with any of the larger capacity devices on the market now. They're all too big, too heavy, with short battery life and compatibility issues. I'm not an apple hater. I love my imac and apple tv. However, I can't believe so many people buy the ipod, the ipod touch and the iphone. I'm sorry but they're not all that great.
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by drara07 September 25, 2009 8:39 AM PDT
Its the same with cell phones too :(....so many models never get to US
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