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July 22, 2009 12:24 PM PDT

Best MP3 players for podcasts

by Jasmine France

Obviously, an MP3 player's foremost purpose is music playback, but these days people are using their devices for much more than just that. You can view photos, watch videos, even play games in some cases. But perhaps one of the most popular side dishes people like to enjoy is podcasts--heck, it's the main dish for some. Podcasts are great for many reasons, not the least of which is that they're free. Plus, you can count on finding someone talking about just about any topic known to man, so there's something for everyone.

Of course, not every MP3 player handles podcasts equally, which is why I've rounded up some of the best options for you here. The criteria? At the very least have a separate menu sort dedicated to podcasts. Other desirable features include user-friendly podcast-management software, bookmarking capability (whether active or passive), accelerated fast-forwarding, variable playback speeds, and the ability to delete podcasts on the fly once you're done listening. All of the players here offer at least two of the extra features mentioned.

For a side-by-side comparison of the products with specs, please click here.

For more than five years, Jasmine France has covered a variety of tech products for CNET--from scanners to keyboards to GPS devices--but she's happiest where she is now: sitting atop a pile of MP3 players, "testing" every music service known to man, and jamming a variety of earbuds in every shape and color into her absurdly small ears. E-mail Jasmine.
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by rufustel June 25, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
And guess what, Jasmine--the SanDisk Sansa Clip, that tiny wonder, has the same podcast capabilities as its bigger sibling the Sansa Fuze. Fantastic!
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by patchman10 June 25, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
I totally agree with Zune at the #1 spot for Podcasts...I have found it awesome for podcasts. I subscribe to about 20 different ones and what i find very useful that you did not mention is that it further divides podcast into Video\Audio podcasts.
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by NPGMBR June 26, 2008 6:17 AM PDT
You subscribe to 20. I can hardly handle two. Check Zune Arts, thats a neat little Zune specific podcast.
by etrader83 June 26, 2008 7:36 AM PDT
I have a question:

How is the iPhone in terms of handling Podcasts?

Does it offer automatic wireless (either on the cell data network or through wi-fi) updates of podcast episodes?
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by noblesun June 26, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
You have to use the iTunes software on your computer to sync Podcasts with the iPhone. You can't delete Podcasts on the fly like you can with the Touch either but the presentation is still pretty nice on the iPhone.
by trisor July 3, 2008 7:50 AM PDT
You need to manage your podcasts through iTunes with the iPhone - can't update wirelessly.
by Delfairen July 22, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
Yes you can delete the podcasts on the device like the touch just slide from the right to the left on the podcast.

Yes you can download individual episodes of any podcast from the phone without itunes.

Itunes is truely absymal for podcasts though as you can set it to download the last XX number of individual podcasts and you can set it to sync a certain number of one podcast and a different number of a different podcast.
by GT1Boy June 26, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
Don't forget the Sony PSP. No PC is needed to download audio/video pocasts via WiFi with its built-in RSS feed aggregator or web browser.

I have been using my PSP for listening to podcasts on my daily 2 1/2 hour roundtrip commute for the last 3 years. My only complaints are that Sony hasn't added bookmarking and 640x480 mp4 video support. However the PSP does remember where you stopped in the last audio and video file you played even when it is turned off.
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by newsjeff July 22, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
AND the PSP "streams" the Audio podcasts, or you can save them to the memory card. I just turn my PSP on and connect to Wifi and get the latest news podcasts from the BBC or CNN anytime. No need to connect to computer or download!
by kikeda June 26, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
I have a zune and I like it, but all the video podcasts seem to be formatted for the ipod or other mp4 players. To sync a video podcast on the zune takes forever. Not sure how it became #1 because of that. see how long it takes to get a copy of a video onto the zune, ok if letting it sit overnight, but to do it while trying to go out the door...
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by Jasmineflower June 26, 2008 3:01 PM PDT
Definitely see your point, and I should have been more specific. I elected to focus on audio podcasts only for this particular story, because the players that handle audio podcasts well don't necessarily handle video podcasts well and vice versa. So it's difficult to have a catch-all story for both. We're planning a separate feature that focuses on devices that are best for free video content, including vodcasts. Stay tuned!
by AvatarXone July 22, 2009 7:42 PM PDT
This happens because of your settings. set the quality higher and the video podcasts will sync without conversion.
by wallm June 26, 2008 2:54 PM PDT
hmm like I told Jason, if it is so #1, why don't you have a zune podcast button like the ipod, i cant tell you what a pain it is to copy a url when you have google reader automatically take ALL rss feeds, ands i cant get a link to copy and paste into zune software.

so if its #1.
a zune button!!! or at least a url box to copy.
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by VAHitokiri July 1, 2008 9:31 PM PDT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855102050

it's a creative zen in red!
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by trisor July 3, 2008 8:14 AM PDT
The Zune is No 1 because Jasmine doesn't like the Click Wheel
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by Jasmineflower July 3, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
Actually, the Click Wheel had no weighting in this feature. The Zune edged out the iPod for one reason: the software lets you select updates on a subscription-by-subscription basis, rather than forcing you to get the same number of every selected subscription. I can get the 3 most recent episodes of This American Life, one of MP3 Insider, and 5 of Coffee Break Spanish, for example. It was still a narrow "win," though.
by amanning July 10, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
W960i phone is excellent for podcasts. I listen to lots of podcasts. I had the Creative Zen V plus which was very good, but didn't store the bookmark per track (you could have a list of 10 book marked tracks). I've had other mp3 players, various iRivers etc but none has been quite right for podcasts. Until now. I've been won over by my W960i phone. The touch screen is slow and it helps if you have small fingers. However, for podcasts it is brilliant. I can save a bookmark for any track. Can build play lists, see recent additions, delete tracks after listening... and the inbuilt speaker is pretty good so I can listen to podcasts without having earphones at home... Oh and the music quality on this phone (yes it makes calls) is the first phone that has meant that I leave my mp3 player at home. It would be nice to have more than 8gb of onboard storage simply because of some of a few videos and photos that end up taking up space. (SInce a lot of podcats don;t have the tags on them that I want, I download podcasts, use mp3tag ot bulk edit tags and then drag and drop to the phone).
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by amanning July 10, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
W960i phone is excellent for podcasts. I listen to lots of podcasts. I had the Creative Zen V plus which was very good, but didn't store the bookmark per track (you could have a list of 10 book marked tracks). I've had other mp3 players, various iRivers etc but none has been quite right for podcasts. Until now. I've been won over by my W960i phone. The touch screen is slow and it helps if you have small fingers. However, for podcasts it is brilliant. I can save a bookmark for any track. Can build play lists, see recent additions, delete tracks after listening... and the inbuilt speaker is pretty good so I can listen to podcasts without having earphones at home... Oh and the music quality on this phone (yes it makes calls) is the first phone that has meant that I leave my mp3 player at home. It would be nice to have more than 8gb of onboard storage simply because of some of a few videos and photos that end up taking up space. (SInce a lot of podcats don;t have the tags on them that I want, I download podcasts, use mp3tag ot bulk edit tags and then drag and drop to the phone).
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by mondolmk July 18, 2008 7:49 AM PDT
Jasmine:

Thanks for doing this roundup; I believe that podcast specific mp3 players will be a strong market in the coming years, but this is the first review addressing this market I have found.

I am still using an old iriver (ifp-890) because the other players I have looked at didn't meet my needs any better, I am looking for: multiple bookmarks, erase on the fly, replaceable batteries, non-linear fast forward/reverse, small size, adequate volume and most of all a reasonable user interface. I am willing to drop one or more of these criteria for a good player, most likely the replaceable battery aspect. For my needs-BBC,CBC,NPR , CNET and other spoken word podcasts- 4 GB of memory probably represents well over 100 hours of storage, so the size of the memory is hardly an issue these days.

I look forward to trying out the Fuze or Clip. If the Zune wasn't a Microsoft product and smaller it would be great. Itunes software is so slow and such a hog of CPU cycles I would love to avoid the ipod. The Creative Zen is just too much money for something I wear around my neck 3-4 hours a day. The price and size of the Cowan D2 surprised me so I might try that.
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by quikboy2 July 25, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
"If the Zune wasn't a Microsoft product and smaller it would be great."

So being made by Microsoft already makes it a fail for you? Wow. Microsoft made Zune, so I don't see how it can't be a MS product. You can't undo that.

And the 4GB and 8GB are already pretty small in my opinion. Don't forget that they have bigger screens than most players of that size and storage.

Have you even used a Zune?
by quikboy2 July 25, 2008 9:28 PM PDT
The Zune is definitely great for podcasting! I love the fast-forwarding feature when it gets too boring. Just my opinion, but I think the Zune software is more smoother to use, than iTunes for managing podcasts.
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by November 16, 2008 1:14 PM PST
I use a Nokia N800 and the gpodder app. Haven't seen a solution for me any better than this (wlan, audio, ogg, video, etc). They don't make the N800 anymore, have a newer N810. I'm waiting until wimax is available before I buy my next device.
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by jypeterson July 22, 2009 1:13 PM PDT
Gasp! The Zune beat the iPod in a category?

My favorite phrase on the Zune comes from "Chuck" (laden with extra sarcasm):

Morgan: "Let me go get my Zune"
Chuck: "You have a Zune?"
Morgan: "No, just kidding...I'll go get my iPod"
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by tallnproud July 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT
I agree w/ rufustel; the Sansa Clip has excellent podcast abilities packed in its tiny frame. It's got active bookmarking, varying play speeds, and ability to delete on the fly. Combine that w/ it's minuscule size and you've got a winner. It might lack the auto- downloading and syncing found in its iPod and Zune brethren, but for the price, it's hard to beat.

I've been amazed at the efforts that Sandisk has gone to to update and improve even their budget player.
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by JohnLudlow July 22, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
As far as I'm concerned, the most important thing is that the items do not end up in the music browser on the player. I know not everyone is bothered about it, but if the player mixes podcasts with music, that's a huge no-no for me.

My Archos 605 WiFi is the only player that I've seen handle this situation well (though I guess other Archos players would be ok as well) - and that's because it just looks under the Music folder for music Video for videos, etc. Podcasts go under the Podcasts folder, and I can access them with the Archos' file browser, and the player even gives me back/next buttons that work properly.

It's not perfect as a podcast player (no show notes viewer, no read / unread tracking of items, etc) but it's the best I've seen so far.
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by bleech July 22, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
Hi Jasmine.
I have to agree that the Creative Zen family represents, with the ZENCast service, a very good value for this, and quite ahead of the Apple and Samsung proposals for it [specially the Samsung software is a bit of a nightmare to use, but much smaller and swifter than i-tunes].
The Zencast software is fast, and keeps tracks of each subscription [but it does not have separate propperties for each subscrition, as the Zune does], It allows you to select WHEN to clean the podcast reference, and when not. So, it does, contrary to iTunes, allow you to keep an archive of the shows you see.

Another good stuff is that the video conversion is done natively and works quite all right.

So I think they should be up there, or at least on the least.

Still, I have to say that you should avoid the Zen X-fi. It does add almost nothing, costs more, and looks -just the looks- rather cheap. It is wider [fatter] than the original Zen, and the controls are not well laid out [no referring to the nine botton array, but the placement of the main switch and the light acces, as well as the reset nipple.
Not a good upgrade for a former very good product.
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by Macbrewer July 23, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
iPods are OK for podcasts, but they can't handle Zunecasts like a Zune can, that's just ridiculous. :-D

Also, give me ZunePhone anyday over iPhone! And Windows is just wonderful. LOL
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by rainloving July 23, 2009 10:59 PM PDT
I've used iPod nano fifth generation, it handles podcast very well. But before subscribing or listening podcast, it is necessary to install a newest itunes software in advance. So we can download some programes of podcast via itunes library.
What puzzled me is the problem with HD videos. whenever I download a funny video,I have to convert the invalid video formats. It is very complicated. But since my friend recommends me a Pavtube video to ipod converter, I can download various HD videos with ease.
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by Chester_Lampwick September 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
So, please help me understand. Which of these players can I leave in my car and have new podcasts download automatically while unattended from my house's wi-fi while my car is sitting in my driveway? Do any of these integrate with OEM car radios, other than iPod?
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