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June 22, 2007 8:30 AM PDT

Mac OS X 10.4.10 (#3): Important files modified by this update, downgrading components; possible fix for audio pops

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Important files modified by this update, downgrading components As with all significant updates, it is important to take note of which files are modified by Mac OS X 10.4.10 so that if a problem occurs after its installation, you can reasonably surmise whether or not there is a potential that the update was culpable. For instance, the update has caused audio issues for a number of users -- a problem that can potentially (albeit not necessarily) be linked to the update's modification of the audio input/output kernel extension: /System/Library/Extensions/IOAudioFamily.kext.

If you are experiencing major problems you believe to be caused by a specific component, you can downgrade it to an earlier version via this process:

  1. Download the appropriate Mac OS X 10.4.9 combo updater from Apple's download page.
  2. Download and install the shareware application Pacifist
  3. Drag the Mac OS X combo installer package (e.g. MacOSXUpd10.4.9Intel.pkg) onto the Pacifist application icon.
  4. Scan the list of installed files for items that might be causing your problem by clicking on the disclosure triangles. As mentioned above, /System/Library/Extensions/IOAudioFamily.kext might be implicated in an audio issue, for instance. Pay particular attention to >/System/Library/CoreServices, /System/Library/Extensions(files stored here are kernel extensions -- items that are used to interact through an abstraction layer with the Mac OS X kernel, and can be implicated in kernel panics and other issues) and /System/Library/Frameworks
  5. Find the file you are looking for by clicking the disclosure triangles to reveal the targeted location.
  6. Select the file in question and click the Install button in Pacifist. You will be required to enter your administrator password.
  7. Restart your Mac

You should generally not mix and match components from different system versions because of potential compatibility issues. You will also lose any refinements brought about by the revision. Still, in a bind, replacing newer items with older ones can solve otherwise insoluble issues.

Here is a partial list of important files modified by Mac OS X 10.4.10:

/Applications

  • Address Book
  • Internet Connect

/System/Library/Extensions/ (these kernel extensions control a bevy of functionality -- check here if you are having problems with graphics cards, audio, AirPort networking, external USB/FireWire devices and more)

  • webdav_fs.kext
  • smbfs.kext
  • System.kext
  • IPFirewall.kext
  • IOUSBMassStorageClass.kext
  • IOUSBFamily.kext
  • IOSerialFamily.kext
  • IOHIDFamily.kext
  • IOSCSIParallelFamily.kext
  • IONetworkingFamily.kext
  • IOAudioFamily.kext
  • AppleSMC.kext
  • AppleOnboardDisplay.kext
  • AppleSmartBatteryManager.kext
  • AppleSMBIOS.kext
  • ATIRadeon9700.kext
  • IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily.kext
  • IOPlatformPluginFamily.kext
  • ATIRadeon.kext
  • IOGraphicsFamily.kext
  • IOFireWireFamily.kext
  • AppleAirPort.kext
  • AppleFWAudio.kext
  • AppleFileSystemDriver.kext
  • AppleBacklight.kext
  • AppleIntelGMA950.kext
  • AppleHDA.kext
  • (many more)

/System/Library/Filesystems (check here if you are having problems with mounting certain disks or shared volumes)

  • smbfs.fs
  • URLMount
  • ufs.fs
  • AppleShare
  • webdav.fs
/sbin (more filesystem mounting components [and other important pieces] are here. You may need to replace items here and in /System/Library/Filesystems. For instance, if you are having problems mounting SMB filesystems, try replacing mount_smbfs here and smbfs.fs in /System/Library/Filesystems)
  • slattach
  • mount_afp
  • mount_webdav
  • ifconfig
  • routed
  • rtsol
  • ipfw
  • nfsd
  • mount_smbfs
  • nfsiod
  • ping6
  • route
  • ip6fw
  • ping
  • fsck

More on audio pops, potential fix If you are having problems with audio pops, distortion, etc., try downgrading the /System/Library/Extensions/IOAudioFamily.kext file as mentioned in the section above. Reader reports of the problem continue to flood in, making it one of the most prominent issues with Mac OS X 10.4.10.

One reader writes:

"On my iMac 1.83 Intel Core Duo I also have the annoying audio pops. Every time I start a song in iTunes, first you here a pop (or tic, whatever you call it). Also, when there is no music, every 1-2 minutes you hear a pop. Never had it before, just after the update to 10.4.10."

MacFixIt reader Bryan adds:

"I've had the speaker pop problem suddenly appear after installing 10.4.10. It's a faint pop every few minutes.. like the speaker's lost electricity for just a moment then regains it. This is on my Mac mini core duo 1.66 (first intel generation)."

Tristan writes:

"i am also experiencing a pop sound with my speakers that are always hooked up to my 1st gen rev a macbook. The pop occurs just before actual sound is used, and a short time after, they behave almost as if it is the speakers turning on and off before and after being used, although that is certainly not the case, i'm just trying to find a way to describe the behavior. Up until the recent update there have been no issues in the year that i have run this laptop"

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    by JRG41 June 22, 2007 10:17 AM PDT
    I have, for the better part of a year, had difficulties mounting USB devices including my keyboard. I found early on that unplugging and replugging devices such as printers, Parlient telephone adaptor, card reader, Griffin iMic for example would make the device usable.
    I excitedly downloaded and install the latest OS update in hope that my USB problem would be solved. It did not!
    What next?

    Jerry, Salinas, CA
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    by Swift2 June 22, 2007 10:17 AM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by JRG41


    If there's a hub involved, check the power supplied to it. Usually, the max is 500 ma. Many devices exceed this. Putting another hub in parallel, and carefully moving the more power-hungry devices around, may solve the problem for you.

    Must. Use. Powered. Hubs.
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    by Swift2 June 22, 2007 11:04 AM PDT
    The audio changes are not always bad. The quality of the sound hasn't changed for me, but this behavior has: I have Soundsticks on my G5, attached through a powered hub, and an iOGear KVM switch: on the other computer, I've put some standard, non-USB cheap speakers for audio, because the KVM I got can't switch my USB peripherals along with the screen. Clear? Probably not. In any case, every time I boot up, I've had to unplug and plug my Soundsticks, since the computer has lost track of them during reboot. But now, during startup, I hear one pop, and when I start up, there are my Soundsticks in SysPrefs->Sound. No longer forgotten.
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    by bruce.mckenzie_dotmac June 22, 2007 1:16 PM PDT
    I'm now running 10.4.10 on a 1st gen Intel Mac mini. Before the 10.4.10 update I had no audio popping via my SoundSticks, and my UVB camera worked driverless with Skype.

    Post 10.4.10 I have frequent popping, seemingly at random, and my UVB camera's built-in mic is non-functional:

    * It shows in sound prefs pane but with no input level
    * In QuickTime Player recording prefs it doesn't show, or shows as "USB Video Device (Unavailable)"
    * In Skype prefs I can see video, but there is no audio input

    So it looks as if there will be a 10.4.11 update afterall!
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    by bruce.mckenzie_dotmac June 22, 2007 1:16 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by bruce.mckenzie_dotmac


    Update: Replacing IOAudioFamily.kext from 10.4.9 does not fix the popping, or restore microphone function to my UVC-based webcam.
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    by WhiteDog June 23, 2007 4:58 AM PDT
    While downgrading suspected system components might be helpful, it's a whole lot simpler to back up your system before applying a major update like this. Then reverting is a snap. In my opinion if you don't do backups you are just asking for trouble.

    And, reflecting on this issue, I wonder how Time Machine will affect backup strategy. Will you be able to revert your entire system with it? Of course we don't know yet, but the value of Time Machine will be significantly decreased if you cannot.

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    Don't anthropomorphize computers.
    They hate that.
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    by lcpguy June 23, 2007 2:57 PM PDT
    I spoke too soon in another thread saying I had no problems with 10.4.10. It took awhile, but the audio popping anomaly has surfaced. Extremely Random and that's why I probably didn't notice it at first. I tried using Pacifist and installing the 10.4.9 audio kext file as MacFixit suggested. It did no good. The popping is still present. So, I put the 10.4.10 component back in. I guess we'll just have to wait until Apple fixes it.
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    by tpiper June 23, 2007 2:57 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by lcpguy


    I created a workaround which you can try - see http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1008163

    Install http://www.tpiper.com/popstop/popstop.zip

    It'll use about 2% CPU (and drain your battery about 2% faster) but it's better than nothing...
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    by raynehem_dotmac June 23, 2007 7:05 PM PDT
    I did the update and also did the combo update, but my printers disappeared and when to tried to add them back and got nothing but error message. I ended up going back to 10.4.9 as I had a duplicated hard drive of the boot drive. Anyone else have this problem. I have a Mac Pro Dual Quad Core. My Mac Book Pro did not have this issue.
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    by philippeleemann June 23, 2007 7:05 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by raynehem_dotmac


    I have an Imac Dual Core 20" 2GHz, and a MacBook Pro Dual Core 2 Duo 2,33 GHz with a double system on 2 partitions. Before installing the combo updater, I repared the permisions, etc... On all systems, the printers disappeared.
    The usual applications (Apple disk Utility, Onyx, Tech Toosl Pro 4, etc) didn't change anything. I tried Printer Setup Repair, and everything worked on the first pass!
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    by harrymcq June 23, 2007 11:29 PM PDT
    10.4.10 broke Airport on my MacBook, error message popped up saying there was something wrong with the install of System/Library/Extensions/IO80211Family.kext/contents/plugins/AirportAtheros.kext. I used pacifist and re-installed the whole IO80211Family.kext from the 10.4.9 Intel combo and bingo, Airport works again.
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    by avrom June 24, 2007 5:44 AM PDT
    I have a 20" iMac Intel Core 2 Duo and am getting the annoying pop every few minutes or so.
    Tried applying the fix by installing the IOAudioFamily.kext file as described here. I'm still getting the annoying pop sounds.
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    by j.warbler.madman June 24, 2007 8:43 AM PDT
    Here is what I have done to address random audio pops based on information I stumbled onto in another forum.

    Download LineIn 2.0.2 from VersionTracker.

    Once installed, run it and set "Input from:" to Silence Input, set "Output to:" to Default System Output.

    If I keep LineIn running on my Mac, this keeps the audio pops from recurring for me while still playing normal system and application sounds.

    Optionally, you can use something like Dockless if you don't want to see LineIn cluttering up your dock. Then you can go into Accounts in System Preferences to set LineIn as a Login Item. If you tick the Hide box, you won't see any sign of LineIn running after login, but a quick look in Activity Monitor shows it's there.
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    by June 24, 2007 7:25 PM PDT
    Saw this on another list and it fixed the "pops" for me. Your mileage may vary:

    "I have had some popping in my audio before and I fixed that by opening Audio MIDI setup and re-selecting the Audio Output format Hz or bitrate then back again. The popping stopped immediately in iTunes via both analogue and digital connections."
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    by Macsure June 25, 2007 9:02 AM PDT
    It's hard to avoid seeming snarky but I can only be thankful that I decided to skip 10.4.x altogether. Ten, ten! incremental releases, that alone is enough evidence that this was a screwed up version of "X."

    Most troubling tho is to see continuing problems with audio I/O. My eMac is four years old, it never has been able to handle the simple task of making a microphone work. Even with iMic - it worked for a while then stopped again.
    Other iMic users tell me they have the same experience and when they contacted Griffin Tech about it, they were told their iMic had just "expired" for whatever reason and they'd have to buy another one (at $40 each).

    Hey Apple - get your hot-shot engineers on this old, old problem with mics and speakers!! To think I'm going to spend around $2500 for my next iMac and won't have complete, quality audio I/O is just ridiculous.

    (But at least I'm waiting until 10.5 ships with new Macs, can hope and pray it will be better than 10.4.)
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