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June 25, 2007 10:09 AM PDT

Safari 3.0.2 beta (#2): Mailbag miscellany

by CNET staff

[Published Monday, June 25th]

Following the release of the Safari 3.0.2 beta, which we reported Friday afternoon, readers continue to report ongoing issues. Among their laments, drawn uncritically from our mailbag, are the following:

  • Autofill of passwords from the keychain does not work for some sites.

  • Certain Web sites, including .Mac mail, complain that the browser is unsupported.

  • The program crashes when attempting to display a PDF file.

  • The program crashes after playing Windows Media content.

  • The program crashes on launch, or when opening the bookmarks window, or just whenever it feels like it.

  • The first attempt to load any page results in a blank window.

  • Certain fonts are displayed distorted (from the reader?s screen shots, it looks like this problem involves CSS that specifies bold font weights).

  • In some sites that involve file uploading, the uploading doesn?t work.

  • Certain sites with possibly problematic JavaScript generate a warning dialog.

  • The presence of Safari 3 may interfere with your ability to install the Security Update 2007-006.

  • CPU usage rises unacceptably when many windows or tabs are open.

  • Functionality of other applications, such as Mail, is interfered with.

  • Some users are unable to perform the Safari 3 beta installation in the first place.

Input Manager Warning Users who are addicted to Input Manager modifications of Safari will certainly need to uninstall these until compatible updates appear. (For example, an update to Saft appeared on Saturday.) At the same time, MacFixIt continues to suggest that the Input Manager mechanism was never intended for this kind of ?code injection? misuse, and warns that Input Managers are one of the primary sources of Mac OS X instability; so our real advice would be to empty the InputManagers folders and leave them empty.

InputManagers are located in the following directories:

  • /Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/
  • Library/InputManagers
  • ~/Library/InputManagers

Install Carefully All our usual caveats about performing any installation apply here. The Safari 3 beta is not merely a stand-alone application; the installer also replaces the Dock, as well as major frameworks (WebKit and JavaScript) on which many other applications depend. The installer comes with an uninstaller package which our readers report does work just fine. So, you can revert to prior state of things if you don?t like Safari 3. Nevertheless, before installing, make a backup! You don?t want to end up like reader John, who writes:

The installation of Safari 3.0.2 beta just froze my Mac G4 Dual 1.25 MDD (running OSX 10.4.10) during the beginning of the installation process. It also destroyed my older version of Safari 2.0.4 in the process, and now I am unable to install anything else, including OSX 10.4.10 Combo updater, Safari 3.0.2 beta, or even QuickTime 7.1.6, which is already installed used just for a test.

Please do also continue to glance back at our previous coverage, which contains many suggestions for dealing with Safari 3 beta issues.

Remember: There?s a reason why this is called a beta. It?s because it?s a beta! This is not a finished application. By downloading and installing, you are implicitly agreeing to act as a risk-taking tester of functionality that is neither complete nor guaranteed. This application has a Bug button right in its toolbar. That?s because it is expected to be buggy!

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    by bill5011 June 25, 2007 12:07 PM PDT
    I have been using Saft, PithHelmet and Stand plus AcidSearch since they 1st appeared and now with Tiger 10.4.10 and Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3), the play well together. I have no browser or system instability on G5 or Intel Macs.

    Being on slow dial-up I find these extensions to be necessary for a reasonable browsing experience, especially since many sites are becoming so media heavy. eg, Apples new site scheme. If I could not modify sites to suit dial-up I could not visit them in a reasonable way.

    I think you are wrong about InputManagers as Safari extensions.

    Bill Blank
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    by ajbgmex June 25, 2007 12:07 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by bill5011</i></div></class><br />
    Bill,

    I think you are the one who is wrong. We are talking about Safari 3.0.2, not 2.0.4. Most Input Managers don?t work yet with this beta.

    AJ
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    by bestsong June 26, 2007 5:07 AM PDT
    On Safari 3.02 I couldn't use the Google search window. Nothing happened when I entered search terms and hit return. In the end I reverted to Safari 2, which works perfectly. I've complained abouit this on the Mac forums but nobody else seems to have reported the same problem. I don't have any serious issues with Safari 2 so there's no reason for me to change, and I won't be risking version 3 any time soon. Have any VersionTracker subscribers seen this problem?
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    by janekg June 26, 2007 5:07 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by bestsong</i></div></class><br />
    On Safari 3.02 I too can't use the Google search window. I'm running an Intel 24" iMac with OSX 10.4.10 and in a word NOTHING happens when using the Google search engine. I have reinstalled Safari 2.0.4 until this issue is resolved.
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    by Jean-Jacques June 26, 2007 5:07 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by bestsong</i></div></class><br />
    I have the same problem with google search. Funnily, however, on other accounts that I have on the same G5, it works well. Still, it's annoying, as Safari 3.0 seems really quite fast.
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    by lkrupp June 26, 2007 10:25 AM PDT
    I'm experiencing none of the listed issues with Safari 3.0.2. This has GOT to be related to whatever strange things people have installed on their systems or lingering corruption. I never even experienced the bugs that 3.0.2 claimed to fix.
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    by June 26, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
    Saft for Safari 3 Public Beta - 9.0b3 released today will not allow Safari to quit and requires a force quit. Once Saft is removed from input managers, Safari 3.02 beta quits normally.
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