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October 31, 2007 11:45 AM PDT

Leopard Dock annoyances and workarounds

by CNET staff

There have already been numerous complaints about the Dock in Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), most of them surfacing before the OS upgrade was released in final form. Now that Leopard Dock behavior is concrete, two primary functional (not aesthetic) annoyances -- all related to the way the Dock handles folders -- remain:

1. Hierarchy gone You can no longer access the hierarchy of a folder stored in the Dock. Instead of a pop-up listing of folder contents that can be navigated in hierarchical fashion, the only options are "Fan" or "Grid." "Fan" shows up to 11 items contained in the folder, with an option to go to the Finder to see the rest of the items. "Grid" shows a more complete picture of what's inside a folder, but still doesn't allow for navigation to sub-folders contained therein.

Solution: Use DragThing This third-party Dock replacement retains the hierarchical navigation functionality now missing from Leopard's Dock. It's $29 shareware, and includes a bunch of other nifty functions like the ability to create multiple docks, store clippings and images, and can put the Trash icon on your desktop.

2. Custom icons ignored As noted by MacFixIt reader Scott Rose, when you drag a folder into the Leopard dock that already has a custom icon associated with it, the dock now ignores that folder's custom icon. Instead, it gives you the custom icon of the first custom icon (alphabetically) of the item inside that folder.

Solution: Trick the folder Scott also offers a clever, if tedious, workaround: "The only way to fix this is to create a special folder called "_1" inside that folder and paste in the very same custom icon that the parent folder has for its icon."

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    by timransom October 31, 2007 12:24 PM PDT
    I'm having another issue with the Dock. My CPU is taking a HUGE hit from the DockSync process part of the SyncServices. At any given time, I'm running somewhere between 80 to 95 percent of my MacBook dual core processor. Any ideas? I don't know what setting to change to get this to stop. My fan is constantly running!
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    by goldmanj October 31, 2007 12:46 PM PDT
    What I find annoying is the little blue glow underneath an icon to show the application is open. I can already guarantee I'll have many users who don't realize they still have applications open. I know the old triangle may not have been pretty, but it was clear whether or not the app was running.
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    by frito-bandito October 31, 2007 12:55 PM PDT
    "hierarchical navigation functionality now missing"

    wow.. that really BLOWS!! I use that often
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    by PMT October 31, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
    Or just copy the Dock over from 10.4. It seems to work ok.
    Reply to this comment
    by fredrokk1 October 31, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by PMT</i></div></class><br />
    How do you copy the 10.4 dock to leopard?
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    by tonysilva October 31, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by PMT</i></div></class><br />
    Yes, I am curious, too. Running the Tiger dock in place of the Leopard dock would be a godsend. More info, please.

    ---
    tonyinosaka
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    by Gennx30 October 31, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
    there is a new app called DOCK RESTORE which pretty much returns the dock back to Tigers style
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    by baltwo2 October 31, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by Gennx30</i></div></class><br />
    That's simply a GUI wrapper for these Terminal commands:

    defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES
    defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean NO

    following each with a killall Dock command.

    One can write an Applescript app that does the same toggling.
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    by John Sawyer October 31, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by baltwo2</i></div></class><br />
    The Dock that results from issuing the no-glass command actually looks fairly different from Tiger's, and looks a lot better--its background is translucent black, which makes icons more visible, especially when there are things under it, than the nearly total transparency of previous Docks.

    And don't get me going about that new Dock's rounded corners!
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    by alister October 31, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;&#62;&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by John Sawyer</i></div></class><br />
    Just to make it clear (as I misunderstood this on reading it) this doesn't restore the Dock's hierarchical menu, just mods the appearance.
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    by MacHound October 31, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by Gennx30</i></div></class><br />
    Great tip! Thanks.
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    by WhiteDog October 31, 2007 4:29 PM PDT
    The dummy folder trick works only intermittently. Sometimes I get the custom icon I apply to them, sometimes the Dock still shows the first <i>file</i> in the folder and sometimes it substitutes a generic Leopard folder icon for the custom icon. Very annoying.

    I already use DragThing and have for years, but I'm just testing Leopard at this point and don't feel like going to the trouble to set it up yet. Normally I have only the folders and applications I use most in the Dock and leave the rest for DragThing. Now I may have to access all my folders in DT since the Dock is so unreliable. Definitely not ready for prime time.

    I don't mind the Dock shelf - or even the lights that indicate a program is running - now that I know that's what they are. The difference between a transparent/reflective shelf and the translucent panel in previous versions of OS X would be negligible if people weren't shining a light on it, as it were. But the loss of the hierarchical display will be a deal breaker for many and the icon issue is annoying at best.

    The Mac OS used to be about user friendly choices. These days it seems to be more about taking choices away and imposing an arbitrary and often poorly thought out straight jacket on people.

    The new Dock earns a definite thumbs down, one star rating.<p>---<br>Don't anthropomorphize computers.<br />
    They hate that.
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    by lloyd1981 October 31, 2007 4:29 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by WhiteDog</i></div></class><br />
    "I don't mind the Dock shelf - or even the lights that indicate a program is running - now that I know that's what they are. The difference between a transparent/reflective shelf and the translucent panel in previous versions of OS X would be negligible if people weren't shining a light on it, as it were. But the loss of the hierarchical display will be a deal breaker for many and the icon issue is annoying at best.

    The Mac OS used to be about user friendly choices. These days it seems to be more about taking choices away and imposing an arbitrary and often poorly thought out straight jacket on people."

    I give up. Lost too much stuff. No real need for 10.5.

    Reminds me of the time many abandoned MFI forums and went the anti-10 way. The destruction of user-friendly concepts so carefully crafted in 9.(1/2).x took a long time to overcome.

    I played with 10.1.5. 10.2.anything was like 9.0. Sooo slooow. Finally got in with 10.3.5 and all stuff worked fine. (Still struggling with FaxPRO to get it to recognize users - I was a beta tester for 5.x and earlier - and all of those wonderful variants of PS fonts created using MultipleMasters print looking the same.) 10.4.9/10 working fine. Now, it seems that we have to start all over again... back to 10.0.x just to get plain stuff to work.

    Perhaps by 10.5.5... In the meantime, why cut your wrists? Fortunately, I always have two variants of each of the last two versions of an OS on two different FireWire drives and make a third backup with SuperDuper to a third drive before making any changes or applying any upgrades.

    ll
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    by MacFixItUser October 31, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
    "1. Hierarchy gone".

    What? That is essential for us! Not only that, we would love to be able to drag and drop a folder in the Dock application side and place inside different applications, or other folders containing applications. That way you can sort in the Dock many applications by category. Yes, our Docks have dozens and dozens and dozens of items. Tiny icons even on 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays.
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    by RPR44 October 31, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by null</i></div></class><br />
    Until Apple gets around (if ever) to restoring hierarchical folders to the Leopard Dock, a reasonable solution is MoofMenu (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20667). This $5 shareware title from Lobomoto Software is supposed to work in Leopard (I know it works in Tiger), and does its thing by placing a small icon in the main menu bar. This menu can hold, for instance, the same folders that you would normally place in the Dock, and, unlike the Leopard Dock, has one-click drill down capability into subfolders.
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    by RPR44 October 31, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by RPR44</i></div></class><br />
    Oops! That's Lobotomo (not Lobomoto) Software.
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    by goldmanj November 1, 2007 7:09 AM PDT
    Working with baltwo2's command to toggle the dock, here is an applescript program you can use to toggle your dock:

    display dialog "Enable / Disable Glass Dock" buttons {"Enable", "Disable"}
    copy the result as list to {buttonpressed}

    try
    if the buttonpressed is "Enable" then do shell script "defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean NO"
    if the buttonpressed is "Disable" then do shell script "defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES"
    end try

    do shell script "killall Dock"
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    by btoniq November 1, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
    DragThing is going to get rich off of these two Leopard missteps.

    I'm enjoying Leopard, but the Dock's hierarchical view and custom folders were two things I used literally every few minutes that I sit in front of my Mac. You may as well removed the Menu bar. So count me in the group that wonders what Apple's GUI designers were thinking.

    I'm trying out DragThing today.
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    by dgillespie1 November 1, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by btoniq</i></div></class><br />
    Try Classic Menu from Sig Software: http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/
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    by John Albergo November 1, 2007 1:43 PM PDT
    Ewww. Yuck.

    Confirms my decision to wait for 10.5.1. Hopefully this blunder will be fixed.
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