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March 19, 2008 4:46 PM PDT

AirPort Firmware 7.3.1 brings Time Machine over AirDisk back -- really

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[Wednesday, March 19th]

UPDATE: If you're having problems seeing your AirDisk in Time Machine, do the following: In the Finder, create a new window (Command-N), then select your volume under the "Shared" listing. If it doesn't appear in the Shared listing, select "All..." then look for it in the list. Select the disk, then choose "Connect As" from the navigation pane. Enter the appropriate password. Connecting without a password may cause the disk to not appear in Time Machine.

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Last week we erroneously reported Apple quietly reinstated the ability to use Time Machine for AirPort-connected USB disks ("AirDisks"), with AirPort Update 2008-001. That update allowed AirPort-connected disks to show up as volumes in Time Machine for some, the actual backup functionality did not work.

It now seems that Apple has added this functionality with AirPort Extreme Firmware 7.3.1, which can be applied via AirPort Utility after Time Machine and AirPort Updates 1.0 is applied.

So, apply AirPort Update 2008-001, install Time Machine and AirPort Updates 1.0, then launch AirPort Utility (in /Applications/Utilities). You should be automatically prompted to update to firmware 7.3.1. If not, choose "Manual Setup" then choose "Upload Firmware" from the Base Station menu.

In-house, we're backing up to an AirPort Extreme-connected disk i Time Machine as we write this article.

Early, pre-release builds of Mac OS X Leopard (10.5) included the ability to use Time Machine with USB disks connected to AirPort Extreme Base stations. That feature was mysteriously removed in the final release, making way for the Time Capsule, which offers similar functionality. At the time, we conjectured that Leopard was released with known AirPort disk connection reliability issues.

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    by mweldridge@mac.com March 19, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
    Tried to connect a 1tb usb drive to the base station after upgrading. It does not show up in Time Machine but it does show up in the Airport Utility when I double click on the base station and click on Drives.
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    by rgolub March 19, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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    Same here. The USB drive shows up in Finder, in the utility but doesn't show up as a valid drive for Time Machine.
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    by HDurnford March 19, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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    I don't have an AEBS, but suggest that you look at the partition type pre-req that Time Machine needs... I believe the traditional MBR-Windows style won't work or 'causes problems'.
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    by mweldridge@mac.com March 19, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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    Disk is formatted with MAC OS Extended (journaled) as other posts suggest. Still no go.
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    by w_edmondston March 19, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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    Just conducted the update and had to do a full re-sync of my AppleTV. AppleTV couldn't connect to internet, Itunes couldn't see AppleTV, everything had disappeared. After re-sync everything good again :)
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    by linnsondek March 19, 2008 8:31 PM PDT
    I have installed 7.3.1 on both my Time Capsule and Airport Express ( 802.11n version ) with no problems. However I was hoping this would fix the problem which has been reported in Apple forums and on the slimserver site that the Squeezebox is not able to connect to Time Capsule's and I have also now confirmed it can't connect to Apple Express 802.11n version either. It worked fine with my old Apple Extreme base station. 7.3.1 makes no difference it still does not connect.
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    by DavidM March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
    It doesn't show up for me. I applied both the OS X update and the firmware update.

    FWIW, I have the original (fast ethernet) n base station, and have the USB disk set up with accounts.
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    by bothaus March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    Go to the menu bar. Choose Airport Utility/Check for updates.
    Mine didn't show either.
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    by Felix01 March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    >>FWIW, I have the original (fast ethernet) n base station, and have the USB disk set up with accounts.

    I saw user comments on the Macworld thread that it was best to select the "AirPort Extreme Password" option. That's what I did and it's backing up as I speak. Gigabit AEBS version.
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    by end-user-guy March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    I have the same Extreme and the same result - AirDisk not seen by TM. Additionally, I tried all 3 methods of File Sharing offered in the Airport Utility>Disks tab. The best I can get is the drive showing up in the Finder window under shared devices. Time Machine simply does not see that the drive is available.
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    by lupe March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    It's not working here. I did all the updates. The Airport disk is configured to fileshare with a disk password. The disk is mounted on the desktop.

    Time Machine doesn't see the volume. It only sees an external firewire drive, and a server share.

    This is on a Mac Mini running 10.5.2, Airport Extreme version 7.3.1
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    by kiwigray March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    I have had exactly the same problem. I have checked and rechecked and followed every suggestion. My system is a new imac with the last software and airport base is also the latest.

    Even though it appears in he source column as "shared" it still doesn't appear on the desktop (I assume it should) and TM can't see it even though Airport Utility does. Disk Utility doesn't see it either.
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    by kiwigray March 19, 2008 9:52 PM PDT
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    Surprise surprise the Airport Disk it still working. I am doing a backup at the moment, but the 121 gig internal drive in this imac will, at this rate, take 4 days to complete.

    The question is, was all the hassle worth it.

    I think not. I will go back to connecting the drive through Firewire. That takes about 2 hours.
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    by herbs--2008 March 20, 2008 5:53 AM PDT
    Howdy,

    I know this have to do with external drives attached to the Time Capsule but the 7.3.1 update now allows my old TiBook to connect to my Time Capsule with WPA Personal.

    Good Luck,
    Herb Schulz
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    by danbaum March 20, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
    ran the updater from both software update and the manual download, but the new firmware doesn't show up. the only options under "upload firmware" are 5.7 -- which i currently use -- and lower. using a macbook with airport extreme base station.
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    by end-user-guy March 20, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
    Can anyone verify that Time Machine to AirDisk works ONLY with the AirPort Extreme Base Gigabit Ethernet? Feel free to click my username and reply with an email. It's beginning to look like I wasted my money on my AirPort Extreme Base Fast Ethernet version. The "n" is nice but the AirDisk function is what I've been waiting for.
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    by mweldridge@mac.com March 20, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
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    I think you're correct. I have the Fast Ethernet version and Time Machine does not see the connected USB drive even though the utility shows it connected to the base.
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    by tlwalton_dotmac March 20, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
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    Mine seems to be working fine.

    I have the older 100BT Ethernet version of the base station - after mounting the (HFS+ formatted on my MBP) volume by double clicking it in the finder, it went right to work.

    Stay with it.

    -tom
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    by rexanderson1_dotmac March 20, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
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    I can attest; I do not have a Gb AEBS and my Time Machine functionality works fine with USB. Hope that helps, End-User.


    LaCie Big Disk-1 TB, Airport Extreme (from 2006)
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    by StrikeFighter March 20, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
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    end-user-guy,

    It does indeed work with the pre gigabit AEBS. After a little tinkering I discovered that my Lacie External hard drives just needed to be formatted appropriately and they now work like a champ with my pre gigabit AEBS. The formatting that works is Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Regular Mac OS Extended will not work. It must be "journaled". Best of luck to you.
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