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May 31, 2008 1:00 AM PDT

Mac OS X 10.5.3 (#3): serious proxy .pac problems; random application crashes; login window loop; more

by CNET staff

Proxy .pac files cause CPU spiking, iTunes crashes Proxy .pac files, used to automatically choose among different proxy configurations, are causing some serious issues under Mac OS X 10.5.3. We previously reported on iTunes crashes that could, in some cases, be resolved by deleting proxy .pac settings in the Network pane of System Preferences. We've now received reports indicating spiking CPU usage and other problems when proxy .pac files are in use.

.Mac and sync issues have also arisen as an apparent result of the presence of proxy.pac files under Mac OS X 10.5.3.

To make sure a proxy.pac file isn't in use, navigate to the Network pane of System Preferences, click "Advanced" for the current connection method, then click "Proxies."

Random application crashes/freezes/failure to launch If you're experiencing random application crashes, freezes, or failure to launch after updating to Mac OS X 10.5.3, as a number of MacFixIt readers are, bad plist files may be to blame. Such .plist files will generally be located in the ~/Library/Preferences folder, and labeled as follows:

  • com.(name of developer).(name of product).plist [For instance, com.adobe.Reader7.0.plist for Adobe Reader 7.0].

Simply drag the potentially offending .plist file to the trash, re-launch the hampered application, and check for continuation of problems. In some cases, applications will have several .plist files, so make sure you check for any that contain the product name. Also, note that you may lose some settings or other personal data used by specific applications when these files are deleted.

Alternatively, if you're not sure which application is slowing down your Mac or you'd like to check for any existing, but unnoticeable issues, there is a freeware utility called "Preferential Treatment" that will check for some elements of .plist file corruption.

Increased fan activity Some users have reported dramatically increased fan activity and noise after updating to Mac OS X 10.5.3. This is an issue that has appeared with other incremental Mac OS X updates. MacFixIt reader Markus writes: "Since applying the update yesterday to my MacBook Pro C2D 2.16 GHz my fans are running nearly all the time ? it is driving me crazy!" In some cases, this issue is caused by corruption of the Spotlight index. Try deleting the index via this process:
  • Download the utility Spotless.
  • Use the tool to erase the Spotlight index.
  • Restart your Mac.

An SMC reset may prove effective, failing the aforementioned The rough equivalent of an SMC reset for PowerPC-based Macs is a PMU reset. Instructions for the procedures, respectively, are as follows:

System refuses to boot -- exemplary fix Yesterday we reported that after updating from Mac OS X 10.5.2 to Mac OS X 10.5.3, some users are experiencing a hang at boot, where the apple grey screen will appear with the traditional spinning circle and not progress further than that point.

At time we noted that users experiencing this issue should heck for problematic login/startup items: Startup in safe mode (hold the "Shift" key while you startup). Next, go to the Accounts pane of System Preferences and click the "Login items" tab. Select all the login items and click Remove, then restart. Also, check the /Library/StartupItems and /System/Library/StartupItems folders and remove any third-party items.

As discovered by MacFixIt reader Michael, you may need to dig a little further for such problematic items:

"I had a similar problem a few months ago with a new (Penryn) MBP. Zapping PRAM, fixing permissions, there were no Login Items to interfere...or so it seemed. There was in fact a startup item that did not appear in the Accounts panel that proved to be the source of the problem. It was a third party System Pref, Startup Sound.pref, which mutes the Mac's startup sound. Removing it solved the problem."

Login window loop Several users have reported an inability to login to their user accounts after updating to Mac OS X 10.5.3. The problem may be typified by a "looping" situation where the user enters a login name and password then presses return, only to be presented with the same login window over and over.

As described by one MacFixIt reader:

"Since upgrading to OS X 10.5.3, I cant use my Mac anymore. It starts up, then the blue screen appears, trying to pen the user logon window, but then crashes, and tries to reopen that window, forever."

The problem may also manifest as a display of the single user mode login prompt ("Welcome to Darwin") with the error message username:/dev/console: Operation not supported by device.

Potential fixes

Try booting in safe mode Restart your Mac and hold down the Shift key while the system is booting. If the system boots properly, check the /Library/StartupItems and /System/Library/StartupItems directories for potentially problematic files, then use try some of the workarounds listed below in the "Common fixes" section. Also, try deleting the appropriate .plist files as listed below in "Delete .plist files." After attempting repeairs, restart your Mac and check for normal login behaviour.

Run fsck If you are presented with the single user mode screen aforementioned, try running the fsck command by typing the following, then pressing return:
  • /sbin/fsck -fy

If the message ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** appears, keep typing the above command and pressing return until the message ** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK

Delete .plist files If you have an alternate means of booting the Mac in question -- e.g. a separate startup drive, or another Mac connected via FireWire target disk mode -- you can try deleting the following files from the problematic Mac's primary startup drive [the tilde (~) represents the home user directory]:
  • ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist
  • ~/Library/Preferences/loginwindow.plist

We've received an increasing number of reports from readers who, for unexplained reasons, are suddenly unable to log in to previously working accounts. When attempting to enter their login and password information, users are told that the password is incorrect (when it is verified as correct), or that login simply failed.

In many cases, even creating a new user account with new login/password information then attempting to gain entry is problematic.

While we are still tracking down reliable solutions for this issue, we have identified a few workarounds that prove successful for some readers.

Change password If you can login with one administrator account but not other accounts, the first thing to try is a password change as follows:

  1. Launch the Terminal (located in /Applications/Utilities)
  2. Type the command sudo username passwd
  3. Enter the administrator password when prompted, and subsequently the desired username password.
  4. Re-enter the new username password to verify.

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    by dlbyrum May 31, 2008 6:58 AM PDT
    I updated my 15" PB G4 from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3 two days ago and have had none of the reported problems (iTunes crashing, Blue Screen on startup, random application crashes, etc).

    I followed this process:

    ? First create a backup of your startup volume.
    ? Drag the folder com.apple.SoftwareUpdate located in /Library/Caches (the Library folder at the root level of your hard drive) to the trash.
    ? Download the combo updater of Mac OS X 10.X.x and save it for later.
    ? Launch Disk Utility and perform a "Repair Disk Permissions" operation.
    ? Restart from the the Disk Warrior or TechTool Pro CD and use it to "Rebuild Directory/Repair Disk". Restart when finished.
    ? Run Tiger Cache Cleaner -> Caches -> Light -> Local & System Caches
    ? Again restart, this time booting from your normal startup volume, while holding the "Shift" key to boot in Safe Mode (this may take a minute or two).
    ? Apply the Mac OS X 10.X.x combo updater and restart when prompted, this time without holding the "Shift" key.
    ? Restart twice, then launch Disk Utility and perform a "Repair Disk Permissions" operation. Restart once again. Another restart or two may be needed until the loading time of the menu bar items returns to normal.

    Don't panic if you are stuck at the grey progress screen, or blank blue screen, for several minutes after the update. Subsequent restarts should take place at normal speed.
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    by hightechdad May 31, 2008 6:58 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by dlbyrum</i></div></class><br />
    dlbyrum was right on the mark here. However the steps outlined are those for a good process to follow.

    I was stuck in this issue and could not log in. I have posted how I resolved my issue <a href="http://weblog.techdad.net/2008/05/31/fix-it-apple-os-1053-fails-to-get-to-login-screen/">here</a>.

    Hope it works for others. Please post your comments.
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    by dkmarsh May 31, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
    Rather than simply refer to Spotless, a rather pricey piece of shareware, as a means of erasing the Spotlight index, you might have also mentioned the free command-line utility <i>mdutil</i> that's built right into OS X:

    <code>mdutil -E Path/to/Volume</code>

    US &#36;17.95 is a lot to spend on a front end to a single Terminal command. (I understand Spotless does other things as well, but the issue at hand is troubleshooting a problem which may not even be caused by Spotlight.)
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    by ripriprig May 31, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by dkmarsh</i></div></class><br />
    Just downloaded and installed Spotless.Installed it on my MacBook (november 2006). It provides basic functionality in unregistred mode. Possible to delete index files. Did not solve problem with frequently spinning of fan and dito noise. Anyone other ideas?
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    by Knoodles1 June 1, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
    Some are having success with with the login looping problem by applying Apple's login and keychain fix.
    See discussion here http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7297033#7297033
    Link to login and keychain fix here http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306840
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    by Lanwyrr June 1, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by Knoodles1</i></div></class><br />
    I, too, had the login loop problem. In my case, it was a corrupted Launch Services file. I've posted <a href="http://dltj.org/article/macosx-launchservices-login-loop-fix/">details of the symptoms and the fix</a> on my blog in case it would be of use to others.
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    by jrashburn June 3, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
    My 17 in Intel iMac G5 (Early 2006) hung up while downloading/installing the 10.5.3 update. Now I get the spinning gear on startup. Even better, <b>none</b> of the following will work:

    Booting in Single User Mode
    Booting in Safe Mode
    Booting in Transfer Mode
    Booting off the Install DVD

    I <b>can</b> eject a DVD by holding down the mouse button (even with a wireless mouse), but that's about all it will recognize on startup. Is there any option beyond pulling the drive, putting it in an enclosure, and seeing if I can mount if from another machine? I'd rather not have to crack the case to fix a software problem.
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    by dutchwolves--2008 June 3, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by jrashburn</i></div></class><br />
    10.5.3 rendered my PPC G5 2.0 dual unusable. It currently is in the shop after not going past spinning wheel and then shutting down. Won't even start up with install DVD. This release is still beta as far as I'm concerned and I regret the upgrade. My system was finally stable with 10.5.2 and security concerns and resolving a non mounting external hard drive was my motivation for the upgrade. It was a mistake. Be careful.
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    by christian7 June 5, 2008 8:14 AM PDT
    I had the problem of iTunes crashing as soon as I tried to connect to the iTunes store. And has, I used a .pac file for proxy configuration. Once I changed my proxy config. to manually iTunes is stable again!

    Thanks
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