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April 3, 2006 7:04 AM PDT

Automatic Mac OS X Daylight savings time switch doesn't work for some cities under Mac OS X 10.3.9

by CNET staff

MacFixIt reader Scott Davis reports an issue where a Mac OS X 10.3.9 system set to automatically synchronize with Apple's time servers failed to recognize the recent daylight savings time switch for specific cities.

Scott writes:

"If you have Mac OS 10.3.9 and live in Indiana, Apple's not updated the time server to observe daylight-saving time.

"There was a knowledge base article on the change, but it was vague, recommending setting a selection on an Eastern time zone city,.

"Indianapolis, of course, is such a city.

"Also, some discussions in the Apple support forums were also stated that the change should happen automatically. It did not.

"Solution: Choose Detroit."

If you experienced a similar issue, please let us know.

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    by Snapshots1 April 3, 2006 9:28 AM PDT
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303179

    "Updated the rules for time zones and Daylight Savings Time to conform to
    changes in the law for the United States, Australia, and other locations, for
    2006 and later."
    It worked OK in Australia....
    Cheers
    Brian
    Reply to this comment
    by dlb_123 April 3, 2006 9:47 AM PDT
    iBook G4 with 10.4.5 - System Time is based on Indianapolis and was automatically adjusted for DST.

    iMac G4 with 10.3.9 - System Time is based on Indianapolis and was NOT automatically adjusted for DST.
    Reply to this comment
    by April 3, 2006 10:07 AM PDT
    Most people believe that DST changes are dictated by the time server. However,
    the time servers only sync to UTC and the actual local time is deduced from
    timezone tables kept on the client.
    Mac OS 9 had a checkbox to manually indicate DST, but Mac OS X doesn't. In
    Brazil, where I live, DST start and end times are often changed by the
    government, often only a week or two before, so Mac OS X's tables are often
    wrong. I filed a bug on this years ago and it hasn't been closed yet...
    Another bug has, at least, been resolved in Tiger. In Panther and older systems
    there were two timezone/DST tables, the one in /usr/share/zoneinfo and
    another one hardcoded into Carbon, and referred to by older APIs.
    Reply to this comment
    by wmd April 3, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
    Apple updated their time zones in 10.4.5 to reflect our change. They didn't
    update any other versions.

    Our carpetbagger governor, Mitch Daniels, convinced the state that we would
    reap tremendous economic benefit from changing our clocks to match the
    eastern timezone. Of course that's a bunch of male bovine excrement.

    The real reason was to match Indianapolis time with the New York stock
    market
    so the insurance and stock traders - who give money primarily to Mitch's
    party -
    don't have to get up an hour earlier in the summertime.

    The majority of us Indiana folks didn't care about changing our clocks. Here
    again, we have an example of the rich getting what they want over the wishes
    of
    the majority. Such is life in the republican states of america.
    Reply to this comment
    by Jeff Deuser April 3, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by wmd</i></div></class><br />
    Please. I hope you're just joking. The responses to this situation are the very
    reason Indiana went on Daylight Saving Time: nobody outside of Indiana knew
    what time we were on. Half the year we were on New York time and half on
    Chicago. Eventually people will remember most of Indiana is in the Eastern Time
    Zone. Personally, I think all of Indiana should have gone to Central Time. But
    that's just me. I get up early in the morning and it's still dark an hour after
    breakfast (no, I'm not a farmer; I'm a computer consultant).
    Reply to this comment
    by brendansf April 3, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
    Parts of Indiana observe DST and others don't. (i.e., by statute, Muncie is on
    God's Time -- no kidding). These rules have changed over the years and in
    various localities in Indiana...check your local town paper. I'm from neighboring
    Ohio and could never figure it out.
    Reply to this comment
    by JohnWBaxter April 3, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
    <class="merchant"><span>&#62;</span><div class="datestamp"><i>This is a reply to a previous comment by brendansf</i></div></class><br />
    And to make life much more interesting, several counties applied to the Feds to
    switch time zones, and some of those were allowed to. Now two of the latter
    want to switch back.

    Anybody know a source of USB sundials? ;-)
    Reply to this comment
    by baddawg65 April 3, 2006 1:54 PM PDT
    This is correct. According to infoplease.com as of April 2006 all of Indiana is on DST by Indiana legistature in April 2005. URL://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html.

    But remember this is the last year for the US to be on the current Daylight Saving time rule. Next year the new Daylight Saving rule which was passed as part of the energy act the start time the second week of March and ends first Sunday in November. For example for 2007 March 11 will start the Daylight Savings Time and ends on November 4, 2007.
    Computer hardware and software manufactures will have fun getting all of patches for this.
    Y2K all over again...
    Reply to this comment
    by baddawg65 April 3, 2006 2:54 PM PDT
    This is correct. According to infoplease.com as of April 2006 all of Indiana is on DST by Indiana legistature in April 2005. URL://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html.

    But remember this is the last year for the US to be on the current Daylight Saving time rule. Next year the new Daylight Saving rule which was passed as part of the energy act the start time the second week of March and ends first Sunday in November. For example for 2007 March 11 will start the Daylight Savings Time and ends on November 4, 2007.
    Computer hardware and software manufactures will have fun getting all of patches for this.
    Y2K all over again...
    Reply to this comment
    by RAngol April 4, 2006 1:05 AM PDT
    10.4.5 and 10.4.6 automatically change to daylight saving time if Indianpolis
    based. (Indiana has always been screwed up. Crazy Hoosiers.)

    10.3.9 will *not* update correctly because the fix from Apple only applies to
    10.4, not 10.3.x. Update from 10.3.9 to 10.4.5 or higher to fix this. I had a
    problem with one 10.3.9 PPC Mac and 10.4.5 solved its problem. Existing
    10.4.5 Macs already worked OK and still do with 10.4.6.
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