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January 24, 2006 8:30 AM PST

Intel-based Macs: Rosetta (#3): Application compatibility listings; Java applications a sore spot; more

by CNET staff
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We continue to track compatibility status for PowerPC-coded applications under Rosetta on newly arrived Intel-based Macs.

Java applications a sore spot One of the largest segments of applications that will fail to run under Rosetta on Intel-based Macs is a group of PowerPC-hooked Java applications.

While pure Java applications require no code changes to run on Intel-based Macs, those with JNI Libraries (built for PowerPC-based Macs) are not loaded under Rosetta because the Java Virtual Machine has already launched without Rosetta. Hence, Java applications fail on Intel-based Macs when trying to load PowerPC-only binaries.

Unfortunately, many popular applications include JNI libraries.

Included among these are several peer-to-peer filesharing programs like LimeWire, and various other applications like the Encyclopedia Britannica, which gives an error on launch.

Other peer-to-peer applications' compatibility status are as follows:

  • Azureus - Crashes on Load
  • Limewire - Crashes on Load
  • BitTorrent - Works
  • Tomato Torrent works
  • Acquistion Works
  • Phex - Works
  • Poisoned - Works

Getting non-native Preference panes to run As we previously noted, preference panes with PowerPC-code cannot run on Intel-based Macs, as the System Preferences application launches (by default) in Intel-mode.

You can, however, force the System Preferences application to run under Rosetta (navigate to /Applications, click on the System Preferences icon, go to Get Info and check "Run with Rosetta") in order to access such Preference panes on your Intel-based Mac.

MacFixIt reader Stéphane has put this workaround into practice, and notes:

"In this case, the native will not run any more, but it's a workaround. You can probably make a copy of the 'System Preferences' application, for PPC Prefpanes only; and leave the original for the native ones."

Disk Utilities Several popular disk utilities, including:

  • DiskWarrior
  • TechTool Pro 4
  • SuperDuper

do not function properly with Intel-based Macs.

Contextual menus Third-party contextual Menus don't seem to work on Intel-based Macs.

MacFixIt reader Jean-François Martineau writes:

"All my 'old' Contextual Menus are out of commission. But QuickAccess is now in a Universal Binary version (1.7), which works."

Cisco VPN client -- incompatible One reader writes:

"I have made several attempts to get the VPN client for Tiger to work on the the Intel Box. I do not believe that it is going to happen. When Tiger was released it took Cisco weeks to deliver a Tiger compatible application, I hope that is not the case this time."

Flip4Mac -- incompatible The set of Windows Media components for QuickTime does not function properly under Rosetta.

LiveStage Pro -- incompatible This application causes a kernel panic when launched on Intel-based Macs.

Paul Suszynski writes:

"Tottallyhip.com has told me they are working on a temp fix and have long range plans to release the program in Universal binary."

Games A few readers have reported that the Sims 2 outputs no sound when run under Rosetta.

Other games' status are as follows:

  • Doom3 - Works in 640X480 and 800X600 Slightly jerky
  • Homeworld 2 - Works
  • Nanosaur 2 - Works
  • Warcraft III Reign of Chaos - Works
  • Warcraft III - Frozen Throne - Works

Route66 -- incompatible The mapping software does not function properly under Rosetta.

TransparentDock -- incompatible The dock modification software does not function properly -- likely because the Dock itself is running with native code.

Norton AntiVirus -- problems The virus scanning software seems to work, but it uses default preferences only and Live Update will not function.

Palm Desktop -- compatible MacFixIt reader Art McPherson writes:

"Something that does work, although I didn't expect it to: HotSync

Miscellaneous applications

  • Firefox - Works
  • Flashplayer - Does Not Work in Safari but does work in Firefox
  • Photoshop 7 - Works
  • Photoshop CS - Works
  • AppleWorks 6.29 - Works
  • Aqua Data Studio - Works
  • Microsoft Office 2004 - Works
  • Pacifist - Works
  • OSXplanet - Works
  • Stuffit 10 - Works
  • Unison - Works
  • MactheRipper - Works
  • Iterm - Works
  • File Maker Pro 7 - Works
  • Adium - Works (Universal Binary in beta now - Works)

Apple pro applications Although Apple said many of its pro applications would not function properly with Intel-based Macs, Soundtrack and Live Type both appear compatible.

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    by bill.varner@gmail.com January 24, 2006 10:24 AM PST
    There is a new version of Limewire (4.10.5) out right now that is a Universal binary and it is screamin fast.
    Reply to this comment
    by patchsmyle2 January 24, 2006 10:24 AM PST
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by bill.varner@gmail.com


    Even though Safari is Intel native, it will launch w/o Rosetta. Thus all of the
    plugins will fail. Try launching Safari with Rosetta and the plugins should work.
    Reply to this comment
    by Fingal January 24, 2006 12:39 PM PST
    I suppose Freenet is in a class by itself and isn't really just a P2P client but has
    anyone checked that out? I would check it out myself but I don't have an
    Intel Mac. In theory it should work since I'm pretty sure it's pure JAVA by default
    but gives you the option of installing natively compiled libraries if you want.
    Reply to this comment
    by Travis Emergency January 24, 2006 2:39 PM PST
    Adium 0.88, which is Universal Binary, is now available and no longer in Beta.

    It is available from <a href="http://www.adiumx.com/">adiumx.com</a>.
    Reply to this comment
    by fjciii January 24, 2006 2:39 PM PST
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by Travis Emergency


    Flash Player DOES NOT work in either Safari running in Universal Binary Mode or
    FireFox. Also, I got Flash Player to work with Safari running through Rosetta for
    about 2 days and then magically, it stopped working that way too. Very
    frustrating!!!
    Reply to this comment
    by LudgerWess January 24, 2006 2:39 PM PST
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by fjciii


    Same with me. Flash ran a couple of days but then all sites featuring flash
    applications say I should download Macromedia Flash. I deinstalled flash,
    rebooted and installed anew, according to procedures suggested by
    Macromedia, but I just does not work.
    Reply to this comment
    by zzipp January 24, 2006 8:18 PM PST
    Strange, I've read on Macintouch's Universal Binary Software list that Techtool
    Pro _is_ Intel compatible, here:

    http://www.macintouch.com/imacintel/ubinaries.html

    I don't have an Intel Mac, but my copy of Techtool Pro 4.1.1 does indeed
    claim it's a
    Universal Binary App in the Finder Info window.

    Can anyone comment on this more specifically?

    Thanks for all the great reporting, MacFixIt.

    Keith
    Reply to this comment
    by grandduc January 24, 2006 8:18 PM PST
    >
    This is a reply to a previous comment by zzipp


    True, the Info window for TechTool Pro does say it is Universal, but it does not
    work nevertheless, which is confirmed by their support technician. You may
    supposedly run it on the MacIntel from another computer...
    Reply to this comment
    by MacHound January 24, 2006 9:52 PM PST
    > Microsoft Office 2004 - Works

    What about Office X? Does that work too?
    Reply to this comment
    by cyberbiadotca_dotmac January 24, 2006 9:52 PM PST
    >
    This is a reply to a previous comment by MacHound


    given a cursory test oo.org works in the 2.0 build... other builds will remain
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    Reply to this comment
    by vt37 January 25, 2006 8:07 AM PST
    Does anyone actually try the stuff posted here, or do you just make this stuff up and hope it works?

    The "Preference Pane" suggestion above does not work! When you do a get info on System Preferences, the "Run with Rosetta" checkbox is not available. It cannot be run using the PowerPC code to allow the PowerPC preference panes to work. Seems like if it was that easy, Apple would've built that part in. The real problem is that most apps that install a preference pane are probably also installing kernel extensions and those just don't work either.

    -Todd
    Reply to this comment
    by troy144 January 25, 2006 8:07 AM PST
    >
    This is a reply to a previous comment by vt37


    Same here, the preference pane "solution" does not work.
    Reply to this comment
    by dspeer January 25, 2006 8:07 AM PST
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by vt37


    Actually, I copied the System Preferences file from my G5 to my MacBook Pro
    and it did run under Rosetta. I could access all my PPC preference panes.
    Unfortunately, even though I could access the preference pane for items like
    Window Shade, they remain completely inactive.

    So, even though you can do it, there isn't much value in doing it as far as I can
    tell.
    Reply to this comment
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    by dgkanter January 31, 2006 9:39 AM PST
    Reunion 8 is compatible.
    Reply to this comment
    by GerryA January 31, 2006 3:00 PM PST
    SPSS 11.0.4 is compatible. And seeing as SPSS is historically fragile when it
    comes to new versions of OS X, this is quite remarkable!
    Reply to this comment
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    by bhughes February 3, 2006 8:15 PM PST
    I was able to get Azureus working - there's a bit of mucking around to do but all the required libraries are available for Intel.

    Fix is here:
    http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/Intel_Macs
    Reply to this comment
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