iPhoto 5 (#3): Grayed-out thumbnails; Switching Book Themes causes unexpected quit; more
Grayed-out thumbnails MacFixIt reader Jack Florence reports an issue where, since upgrading to iPhoto 5, thumbnails are grayed out and photos are inaccessible. The issue has been confirmed by a number of readers, though we haven't been able to define an exact set of circumstances.
Jack writes:
"After a long 'Updating library' phase and endless 'loading photos' phase, a library with grayed out thumbnails is displayed. Double clicking reveals a blank white page. I have 1600 photos but saw reports of just a few hundred, to thousands in a library. Trashing the preference file, rebuilding the library, don't seem to help. The actual photo files are OK as they can be open in preview.
Switching Book Themes causes unexpected quit Another MacFixIt readers reports repeatable crashes from iPhoto 5 when attempting to switch book themes:
"This happened to me several times this weekend: I was building a 'book' within iPhoto, and in the middle of composing the book, I switched themes to see what it would look like in a different theme. The first click after switching a theme (say, for example, clicking and dragging a photo onto a page in the book) would cause iPhoto to quit immediately... Along with the usual ?submit a report to Apple? dialog (which I did each time it happened). Interestingly, this was a fresh iPhoto install with no existing library. I imported some photos into this fresh install to try out the new features."
Different adjustment options for G3s and G4/G5s MacFixIt reader Barry Weber notes that there is a reduced array of image settings available to G3 systems with iPhoto 5, while G4 and G5 systems have a the full range of settings:
"I installed iLife on a few of my computers.
"On the ibook G3-500 and the iMac-500 and the iMac-400 G3 models, the Adjustments panel only included the brightness and contrast.
"On the G4 Powerbook and both G4 desktops, the Adjustments panel included the new features such as Exposure/Tint/WhiteBalance and so on.
"It really threw me when I discovered it on the G3 at first. I thought there was some problem with the install. Then when it was consisted on all the G3 computers that the program strips itself down I'm assuming to what the graphics and processing ability of the computer is."
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unusably slow selection for cropping; heck, essentially such poor
performance overall that iPhoto 5 can only be used as my repository for
photos while the real editing all gets done in Photoshop Elements 3.
I fail to see what iPhoto 5 can do when compared to Photoshop
Elements 3 that can begin to explain why iPhoto 5 runs like a 3-legged dog
on my Mac while Elements runs like a top.
IMO, there can be no real hardware reason why Apple disables certain
features in iPhoto on the G3 when Elements 3 does those same things and
more just fine on the same G3.
For the first time in my dealings with Apple products, I feel like I've
purchased a product I wish I hadn't.
Whit Downer
500 Mhz G3 Pismo | 1 GB RAM | 80 GBHD/26 GB free | 10.3.7
If this limitation on G3's is really a fact, Apple may get into yet another round
of legal issues over G3 support in OS X...
Remember the class-action suit over poor optimizing of early versions of OS
X?
Too bad. Apple may be trying to do too many things at once... You have to
admit, OS X Tiger, Final Cut Pro/LE HD, iLife '05, iWork '05, Xsan (the list goes
on) is a pretty dizzying array of 'wares
Here's hoping Apple will be able to keep up its high standards...
The last consult, has nothing to do with your technical problem and is just
someone yelling fire in a theatre. You see this in the comment about OSX
and the G3. Leagal OSX support, has nothing to do with iPhoto products, but,
the person giving you the advise wants to try and make something of it.
There will be people who will give you real advise to solve your issues, these
others, just ignore thier hype.
http://
www.macosxhints.comarticle.phpstory=20050125173019739#comments
Read the comments on MAC OSX HINTS regarding iPhoto5.
I had to erase the whole thing on my G3, iBook 800MHz and take it to the
Apple Genius who
also found it very very difficult to reload iPhoto 4. Something very strange is
going on...
Maybe this will help:
1. on my G3, with iPhoto 4, I did not have any advanced options other than
brightness and contrast control. Thus, the upgrade did not add to or
subtract from this feature set. This would be the same for you, as, the new
adjustment feature set is only available in iphoto 5.
2. If you like photoshop elements, then I say use it, and have fun and work
with it. I don't think iphoto is yet mature enough to compare to Elements,
maybe someday, but, not yet. it really is not a replacement for it, yet. iPhoto
is for us non-pros that want something usefull and fun.
3. It is possible you waisted your money, we all do that. Like I said, iPhoto is
not a professional program, it is a consumer program, and now the best
comsumer level photo app, comparing with my windows buddies.
Up until this most recent upgrade, I have used iPhoto as my primary photo
editing and organizing tool, i.e., cropping and red-eye reduction. I only used
Photoshop Elements (PE) for more heavy-duty repairs, such as correcting for
back-light, color correction, and stitching photos together. The ease-of-use
of iPhoto was unmatched.
Until now on my G3.
iPhoto 5 is so slow to respond while trying to make a selection for cropping
as to be unusable. The Brightness/Contrast controls respond so slowly that
they are unusable. Yet these very same functions work just fine in PE, as they
did in iPhoto 4. That is my complaint.
This will be somewhat awkward on Thursday night for me. Part-time, I have
been teaching classes on digital cameras for the last two years at a large
independent retailer. I use my Mac for demonstration purposes in that class.
Everyone that attended that class could see the ease-of-use and power of the
Mac without me having to say a thing about the superiority of the platform.
But that edge has been dulled considerably in the last two weeks by two
things: the release of iPhoto 5 and the release of Picasa 2.
I am proof that you can give me a PC for free and I still won't use it. The store
gave me a Sony VAIO laptop (the only brand computer they sell) for the
purpose of teaching the class. In spite of, or because of, keeping Windows
up-to-date, it crashed big-time every other class or so. I finally went back to
my own almost-five-year-old-Mac for the class, and of course, the OS has
never crashed. Meanwhile, the store is going to begin selling Macs soon, and
I'd like to think my cheerleading has had something to do with it.
I love my Mac. I'm proud at how well such an old machine still runs. I am
disappointed with iPhoto 5, and see no valid reason why such a simple thing
as selecting an area of a photo for cropping should require a G4. Because it
does not.
If you got this far, thanks for listening.
Whit
It's Apple trying to make you think your computer's too slow.
It might also explain why CoreAudio has this huge overhead, too (playing
MP3s took the same CPU time on my 603e/180!). Playing AIFFs with no EQ, all
windows closed and app hidden in iTunes still takes 6%, which is absolutely
ridiculous.
only on my iMac G4, 800Mhz, 1G RAM, 32 M VRAM. iPhoto 5 takes forever to
open, & only once have I seen the thumbnails. My pictures are also okay as I
checked them w/Preview. Any ideas or sugsestions would be greatly
appreciated. I only have about 500 pictures, yet cannot do anything with
them.
Mitch Kearns
Run your DFA every week, and permisions repair more often.
they said they had no info that would help - any help would be greatly
appreciated!!!!
Try running your DFA and permisions repair, i would be interested in knowing
if this resolved the issue. Thanks.
quit, on our Powerbook G4
- by UpdatePro January 26, 2005 11:46 AM PST
- I have had some of the same problem. I installed iLife 05 and allowed an
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(13 Comments)abnormally long period for my photos to be imported on my dual processing
G5 which has over 1.25 GB of memory and is normally very fast in
transporting data. I have all programs up to date and regularly use disk first
aid and permission's repair. I too received 95% of my 8,000 digital film
library pictures grayed out with title underneath. I tried a couple of reinstall
trashing the program and the registers in my library. Ran Disk Warrior!
Fooled around with importing a small number of photos. All had been
working well with the iPhoto and other iLife programs. I had never had a
similar problem with all of my previous installations. I believe that Apple has
sold us a Beta program which had really not been adequately tested with
large libraries or even on their newer processors like the dual G5 processors.
The iMovie and iDVD also did not work correctly. I had to clone my G5 from
my exterior disk which was performed a couple of days before this mishap. I
feel very sorry for those who did not have a good back up system. I will now
wait in the future for newer programs to have a couple of updates and keep
my eyes on the problem areas before I become a test case. I fooled around
with this problem for a couple of days. When you are dealing with your own
personal photo library, movies or personal DVD, Apple should be very careful
with issuing a program which has not been fully tested. I will probably wait
until Tiger has been updated a few time before I jump in.