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August 15, 2005 7:58 AM PDT

Mighty Mouse (#4): Problems tracking on wooden surfaces

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Problems tracking on wooden surfaces Several posters on Apple's Discussion Boards are reporting issues with using the Mighty Mouse on a wooden service. Poster Oliver von Quadt writes:

"I am quite disappointed about the fact that the mouse can't handle my wooden table surface. The cursor jumps and it is basically impossible to work with it.

"This seems strange, as my truly low-level MS Mouse as well as a medium-quality Logitech mouse do the job perfectly on that very same surface."

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    by WiredGuy August 15, 2005 9:34 AM PDT
    This is not unique to the Mighty Mouse; I have several different optical mice which are useless on smooth wood surfaces (one Logitech, one Apple, one MacMice Bluetooth, one MacAlly).

    Mike
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    by John Sawyer August 15, 2005 11:34 AM PDT
    "...on a wooden SERVICE"?

    I thought the guys at MacFixIt could spell better than that, especially when they
    spell the same word properly in the rest of the article. :)

    I've also seen tracking problems with Apple's original optical mouse, on some
    black surfaces.
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    by joemikeb August 15, 2005 1:47 PM PDT
    My Mighty Mouse tracks perfectly on my semi-gloss finished, natural colored,
    birch plywood desktop -- even after I cleaned of a couple of years
    accumulation
    of dust and coffee stains. :=) This is not highly grained or figured wood,
    sometimes there are three or four inches between grain marks. But the MM
    tracks beautifully! So, I would have to conclude that any tracking problems
    are definitely not caused by the wood surface <i>per. se.</i>.

    I would like to know if the mice in question work normally on a mouse
    pad?

    It would also be informative to know what color wood they are being used
    on and if the finish is gloss, semi-gloss, or flat. I would not be surprised if a
    very dark wood with a flat finish or a very highly patterned wood did cause a
    problem.

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    by John Sawyer August 15, 2005 1:47 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by joemikeb


    The black surface I mention above that a regular Apple mouse (oblong, white,
    from a new iMac G5) had trouble with, is flat black.

    A very highly patterned wood would probably allow any optical mouse to work
    better, since the optical method that's being used depends on detecting
    differences in the surface texture or pattern as the mouse is moved across the
    surface. However, if the surface is highly polished, even a patterned surface
    might cause trouble for some mice, since the LED's light bounces off the shiny
    surface before it reaches the patterned surface underneath it, and so it doesn't
    get as much of a chance to register a pattern difference.
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    by John Sawyer August 15, 2005 1:47 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by John Sawyer


    Macfixit's report #5 on mice reports that the Mighty Mouse has trouble on a patterned surface, and prefers a solid color. I've found that other optical mice work fine with a patterned surface, including a wooden surface with grain. Apparently there are at least two basic designs in optical mice.
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    by Bud Cotterell August 15, 2005 1:47 PM PDT
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    This is a reply to a previous comment by joemikeb


    I have a plastic desk protector,I cut a piece of naugahyde 20'' square fastened it
    down with double sided tape no problems
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    by MacJuanC August 16, 2005 10:23 AM PDT
    This is not unique to the MightyMouse, but common with high-resolution mice. I have a Logitech MX1000 (the laser mouse) that will twitch and skip like it had St. Vitus Dance with the default configuration. Only way to make it usable is by reducing the Tracking Speed on the Preference pane; you have to experiment to get the right balance between speed and twitchiness. My MX1000 needs 5 clicks from Fast.
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    by 123 August 17, 2005 4:23 AM PDT
    One thing mice seem not to be able to track on is my iBook's palm rest. It's
    not too reflective, since paper works fine. It's just that either the texture is
    too fine, or there aren't enough distinguishing marks.

    It's like looking at two pictures of sand close-up, and trying to figure out
    where the overlap is. It's *possible*, it just takes a long time because there
    are lots of configurations to check. If you stick a rock in the picture, it
    becomes a lot easier.

    Possibly, the area of wood between the grain has no distinct markings, so the
    mouse only tracks every time it crosses a grain.
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