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October 12, 2009 2:16 PM PDT

More on Snow Leopard deleting user accounts after guest login

by Topher Kessler
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UPDATE: Apple is aware of this problem and is working on a fix!

A number of reports on the internet are now covering the problem where user accounts are getting deleted after people have logged into guest accounts on their system. We covered this a few weeks ago in an initial report, followed by a secondary report that discusses some additional details of the issue and potential fixes.

Here are some summary points from the previous articles:

  • For affected systems, the problem seems to happen only when guest accounts were enabled for login under Leopard before updating to Snow Leopard

  • Guest accounts enabled in Snow Leopard work fine.

  • Disable guest account login if you do not use it

  • Use a standard "managed" account as a guest account alternative

  • Disable guest account and then re-enable to clear problems with how the system is handling it.

Are you at risk?

As long as your system does not have the guest account enabled then you should not be concerned. However, for people who depend on the guest account, be sure to fully back up your system before trying it out. Use Time Machine or a drive cloning utility to make a complete backup, and then test out the guest account on your system. The guest account works as it should on many computers that had it enabled in 10.5 Leopard before upgrading (and so far does not seem to show problems when it was enabled in 10.6 Snow Leopard), so this is not a universal problem with Snow Leopard installations; however, it's best to be safe and have a full backup before trying the guest account on Snow Leopard.

UPDATE: 3:53pm

CNET Editor Erica Ogg has a recent article on this problem, stating Apple has acknowledged this problem and claims "We are aware of the issue which occurs only in extremely rare cases and we are working on a fix." We agree this is not a widespread problem, but it is a serious one that people should be aware of, and we do caution everyone to take the extra precaution and have a full backup of their systems.



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Topher has been an avid Mac user for the past 15 years, and has been a contributing author to MacFixIt since Spring 2008. One of his passions is troubleshooting Mac problems and making the best use of Macs and Apple hardware at home and in the workplace.
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by RetiredMidn October 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
I had guest accounts enabled in Leopard and used them regularly (maybe once a week) after upgrading to Snow Leopard without any problems (thank goodness). My point is only that there must be an additional condition that triggers the failure, and I'm sure you'll excuse me for not digging for it. ;-)

Thanks for the updates.
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by tkessler October 12, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
You're right. I'll clarify the statement to mention "For affected systems"
by kucharsk October 13, 2009 4:15 AM PDT
Several people on AD have been trying to reproduce this issue on test platforms without success, so there's obviously some key to reproducing it we're missing somehow.
by RickardWidell October 12, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
I have found yet another data loss bug in Leopard 10.5.8.
Check it out: http://blog.baraboom.com
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by tkessler October 12, 2009 5:05 PM PDT
Thanks for the info. I tested this and it appears to happen regardless of the location of the originating folder (local or network). I'll do a small writeup on it, and will notify Apple about the issue. It's unlikely that this would happen, but it's possible.
by BelkyB October 13, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
The default setting for the Guest Account is "Sharing only", so does that mean that it is enabled or disabled.

This would help a lot of us out there who are not that familiar with Mac OS X terminology.

Thanks!
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by rationalreview November 9, 2009 5:28 PM PST
Wow, market share only goes up fractions of percent points and the problems go up exponetially. Welcome to having some clients, Apple, it's a tough road ahead, but you can learn from the giants if you like.
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