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April 2, 2009 4:20 PM PDT

Ford picks Opera for in-dash Web browsing

by Antuan Goodwin

Ford Work Solutions screenshot

Check out the Opera icon in the top left corner.

(Credit: Ford Motor Company)

Earlier today, we reported that Ford is bringing Sprint 3G broadband to its Ford Work Solutions technology suite for F-series and E-series trucks and work vans. This is great news, but it got our inner-geek wondering, "What browser does a Ford truck run?"

It turns out that Ford has chosen a mobile version of the Opera browser to power its in-dash Web experience.

Rod Hamlin, Senior Vice President Americas for Opera Software, said:

"Opera's vision has always been about giving people access to the full Web anytime, anywhere. No example showcases this better than delivering a fast, feature-rich Web browser to a vehicle. This solution will allow Ford truck and van owners to maintain a virtual work environment with access to all of the important files, information, and applications they need on a daily basis."

For more information, visit Ford Work Solutions.

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by Mac OS XP April 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
I think Mozilla is working on a better mobile browser than Opera, but in any event it's good to raise awareness of non-Microsoft web browsers.
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by abundantsnotbob April 3, 2009 6:34 PM PDT
I like Microsoft but not ie
by iceman721 April 2, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
Nice job Ford! I wonder how they pulled that off after their relationship with Microsoft on the Sync technology. Seems they were actually independently evaluating things like the browser rather than doing the "easy" thing and just relying on Microsoft to get them something whether good or not.
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by tcr071 April 3, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
Sync is actually really awesome but I agree that IE mobile blows.
by beanhead54 April 2, 2009 5:27 PM PDT
While Opera still has some "hitches and glitches" when it comes to security and smooth access to more than a few encrypted sites, it has an excellent foundation and an outstanding array of faces, widgets and customizations on which to build an outstanding browser.

Kudos to Ford for allowing a true open source internet vehicle the opportunity to rise to the challenge along with their product.
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by Backspace23 April 3, 2009 2:04 PM PDT
Opera IS NOT open source. It just so happens to be cross platform, including GNU/Linux. Look at the wikipedia entry. Look at Opera's site and try and find source code.

That said it's an excellent browser, with lots of experiance in delivering an excellent mobile experiance.
by HlLLARY CLITON April 2, 2009 5:56 PM PDT
A reason why FORD didn't need any bailout money, they are innovative.
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by gofalcons April 4, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
ford may not need a bailout, but they arent really making money, and compared to the "lower end overseas model" such as kia, suzuki, and the like, ford is still way behind, let alone ever caching up to the real competition like toyota, honda, etc....
by solu1978 April 2, 2009 6:03 PM PDT
This is good news .. but i would have preferred Mozilla over Opera .. anyways its better than nothing,.
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by queticomn April 2, 2009 6:11 PM PDT
either Opera or FireFox the best browsers for the best truck out there, f-150.
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by pjk0 April 2, 2009 6:11 PM PDT
Whereas I tend to prefer the vendor/product that actually *innovates*, rather than the copycats like Mozilla who get credit for tons of functionality they just copy from Opera.

Good going Opera.
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by OctoChops April 2, 2009 6:20 PM PDT
yay Opera! Opera has always been good at getting into products (see Wii). It was the first non-MS browser I used and I'll always love it.
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by AppleSuxLeo April 2, 2009 8:00 PM PDT
Alan Mulally FTW !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Mulally
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by Ken_Saunders April 2, 2009 11:36 PM PDT
Nice job Ford helping out the economy by choosing to use software from a for-profit foreign company.
Yes it's better than going with Microsoft, I sincerely appreciate that, but Mozilla would have surely worked with Ford to get Mozilla Fennec into Ford's vehicles even if it is still in its first public beta.
Mozilla would have hired more developers and dumped more time and resources into Fennec if they were assured of a deal. No doubts about that.
I wonder how much more outsourcing Ford does to support foreign companies.
I'm all about having a healthy global economy, and it's nothing against foreign companies, but you have to take care of your own first before you can or should help others.
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by beanhead54 April 3, 2009 6:13 AM PDT
Opera is open source.

Ford and it's subsidiaries is an international brand.

The advance of good, solid and dependable products does not, nor should not, know any borders.
by zyxxy April 3, 2009 7:03 AM PDT
Do you understand what kind of lead times exist in the automotive world? I am sure that Ford chose Opera before Fennec was more than a concept. Opera has a track record of embedding browsers in consumer products, Mozilla does not. Opera was clearly the low risk proven path in this case. And I say this as a long term Mozilla/Firefox user.
by Backspace23 April 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Opera IS NOT open source. It just so happens to be cross platform, including GNU/Linux. Look at the wikipedia entry "License: Freeware, Proprietary". Look at Opera's site and try and find source code.

That said it's an excellent browser, with lots of experiance in delivering an excellent mobile experiance. Ford is sticking with a more proven technology that's availible now, rather than hope Mozilla can come up with something in time.

And all this foolishness about it being unfamiliar... Most desktop brosers work exactly the same. I replace people's IE with Firefox+ ABP all the time and they don't seem to notice. This is a mobile browser, which works similar, but still different. It would be "different enough" whether it was IE mobile, Opera mobile, Safari mobile. But still it's not that hard to pick up. Look at how many people already surf on Opera mobile, IE mobile (WinMo phones), Safari Mobile (iPhone, iPod touch), Black Berry, etc.
by tcr071 April 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT
Ford is an American company with branches around the world. All profits start and end here in the US.
by Mark_DDS April 3, 2009 6:43 AM PDT
This represents a good day for the alternative browser crowd, but unfortunately, it's also heralds yet another bad business decision by the U.S. auto industry.

Here's the problem: the general public understands Internet Explorer or Safari; they are known quantities, widely-used and comfortable, although admittedly fallable. Consumers are very slow to accept products that they are not comfortable using, especially when two behemoths already dominate the marketplace. Ultimately, this will not drive sales of Ford products. More than likely, consumers will not want to learn the new interface, become frustrated, and begin searching for alternatives. Once Toyota or Honda swoop-in with Internet Explorer of Safari based solutions, adoption will be accelerated, and Ford will be once again out-manuvered.

Ford, congratulations on your foward thinking...too bad it still ignores the larger picture.
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by zyxxy April 3, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
You are ignoring the larger picture that this is an embedded browser in an embedded device running in a car. This is not a desktop browser running on a PC. Think in terms of the browser running in a smart phone. Many (many many) of those are opera based. Not Mozilla, not Safari, not IE. Opera. It is a different application running in a different environment.
by nkuk01 April 3, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
Are you serious? If someone cant navigate the simple and easy to use interface of Opera, I'd wonder how they can manage to drive a truck.

Learning Opera should be no more difficult than learning an interface for a GPS or mobile phone. I doubt that many people would even care who developed the browser as long as its intuitive.

I also cant see how someone would decide which car to buy based on their browser preference.
by Mark_DDS April 3, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
True, but unless the interface is familiar and easily acessible by the public-at-large, it won't fly. And I'm glad you brought this up "zyxxy", because you have given voice to the core of the problem: YOU understand the subtle difference, but Joe Consumer DOES NOT. Unfortunately, there are too many people at Ford thinking in their own bubble and not about what the consumer wants; that's why this is a bad business decision. Cisco provides another not-so-stellar example of what happens when network engineers think they know what's best in the Home Network marketplace. What happens? Confusion, slow adoption, and competition that "get's it", begin to chew away at market share. And the consumer WILL choose based on brand recognition alone. They DO care and they WILL choose what they know, regardless of the runtime environment.
by strugglesmcgruggles April 3, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
Do we really need another reason for dumb pickup truck drivers to find ways to crash?
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by lbytesxk April 4, 2009 6:56 AM PDT
Do we really need another reason for dumb posters to leave ignorant messages on cnet message board?
by jjolsen April 4, 2009 9:17 PM PDT
I agree with struggles. It's surprising that it took this many posts before someone questioned the wisdom of putting a browser of any type in the dash of a vehicle!
by queticomn April 3, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
lol @ Mark_DDS saying people will not be Able to figure out Opera. Toyota's an Honda trucks are toys compared to the f-150 an do some research Mark, you will find the f-150 the best selling vehicle in the United States.

An as for quality of US automobiles an trucks, its right up there with the best of them. I give you J.D. Power an Accosiates.
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by Mark_DDS April 3, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
Excellent analysis. As a counter-example, I'll offer 2 of 3 on the brink of bankruptcy sucking the U.S. coffiers dry and a third too proud to admit it's dying with year-over-year sales slumping for the past decade.

And your solution will float only if Ford plans to deploy the system in F150's - maybe that's what they should whiddle their business model down to...at least that way they'd be profitable.

Do you work for Ford? Sounds to me like the typical arrogance and assumptions about "high quality" that has gotten them in this mess. For the record I never said that consumers won't be able to figure out Opera, I only claim that given the choice, they'll chose something they are familiar with. Maybe I'll take your suggestion and do some research while you pull your head out of your butt.
by jjolsen April 4, 2009 9:23 PM PDT
The F-150 is not the best selling vehicle in the US anymore.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/080604-Honda-Civic-Now-America-s-Best-Selling-Vehicle/
by tcr071 April 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT
So how much was Ford paid to use Opera?
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by pjk0 April 3, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
You Firefox fanboys are as bad as Microsoft fanboys - criticizing a superior, non-monopoly-owned product because it's "UNFAMILIAR"??!?

If that isn't a sign of the sure decline of Mozilla's franchise, I don't know what is.

And oh, BTW - lots of people who contribute to Mozilla have never set foot in the USA either.
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by tcr071 April 4, 2009 9:14 PM PDT
1. Firefox
2. Chrome
3. Safari
4. IE
5. Opera

Yeah. It is that bad.
by JadedGamer April 7, 2009 1:44 AM PDT
Listing desktop browser precentages with no source is totally irrelevant when it comes to embedded/mobile browsers. But whatever floats your Firefox-zealot boat...
by queticomn April 3, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
@pjk0 lots of people who contribute to Mozilla have never set foot in the USA either. Indeed you are very correct. FireFox or Opera are great choices. I think many many people are familiar with Opera Software Company an Opera. Opera is only installed on most smart cell phones an the Nintendo WII which many many adults own. Love them Norwegians Im 50%.

@Mark_DDS Due to Fords restructuring in the past 4 years the company has taken some charges. Ford was indeed profitable in 2007 to the tune of over 700 million. Also if you take a closer look at all automobile/truck manufactures, their loosing money and sales because of economic situations. Ford is planning to add a plug-in hybrid to the mix in 2012. Nancy Gioia, Ford Director of Sustainable Mobility Technologies and Hybrid Vehicle Programs recently told reporters that prototypes of that vehicle have been getting the equivalent of up to 170 miles per gallon in testing. Not to mention Ford has a 60mpg clean diesel available in the E.U...
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by BTJustice April 4, 2009 2:19 AM PDT
I wonder if a virus could get in and make the Fords kill.... would that not be... E-V-I-L?
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by jscott418 April 4, 2009 3:34 AM PDT
Was it not Opera that was in the defunct browser for Nintendo DS? I think they probably gave Ford a deal they could not turn down. Opera is trying real hard to get a foot in the door somewhere.
They certainly have not convince me that they have anything better. Adoption rate says a lot about a product.
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by JadedGamer April 7, 2009 1:52 AM PDT
They are also the NON-defunct browser in Nintendo Wii and Nintendo DSi. And in a gazillion mobile phones. Get over your (Church of Firefox-driven) hate for Opera.
by lbytesxk April 4, 2009 6:50 AM PDT
Good job on passing mobile safari, that thing crashes more than any other browser I ever used
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by shelji April 4, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
Very odd that Mark_DDS thinks people would be slow to accept Opera because IE and Safari "dominate the marketplace". IE may dominate the marketplace, but I really would not put Safari in the same category. While Macs have become more popular, the public at large had hardly an inkling as to what Safari was before the iphone. And they had no trouble adjusting to THAT. A majority of people still do not know what Safari is. I doubt the introduction of yet another easy-to-use, less-well-known browser will prove to be a mistake for Ford or stop someone from buying the car.
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