What should a hybrid sports car feel like?
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Gasoline/electric hybrids have been around for almost half a decade. In this time, automakers have--through tweaking and borrowing ideas--homed in on how a thrifty and efficient hybrid vehicle should look and feel: essentially, something like the Toyota Prius.
With that all sorted out, automakers started to look at other vehicle segments to which they could apply their hybridization magic. Trucks, SUVs, and even large luxury sedans drink less fuel as the result of an electric motor being tossed into the drivetrain mix. Yet, until recently, one segment has managed to stay off of the greenies' radar: sports cars.
However, with vehicles like the Fisker Karma on the horizon and rumors of Nissan mulling a hybrid 370Z, sports car enthusiasts find themselves alternating between outrage and excitement about what the future may hold for sustainable motoring.
So, would they call it the Nissan 370ZH?
(Credit: Nissan Motor Co.)When you consider the instant-on torque that is characteristic of the electric motor, it would be interesting to see what a no-compromises, performance-oriented hybrid drivetrain would feel like in a lightweight, rear wheel drive sports coupe.
However, when you consider that most manufacturers can't even build an automatic transmission that can outperform a good old fashioned manual gearbox, the prospect of even more techno-foolery between the driver and the meat of the tires is a bit scary.
In my opinion, adding hybrid technology to the sports car formula without mucking the whole affair up involves getting two things right: keeping the additional weight of the electric components low and making the technology transparent.
In the world of sports cars, weight is bad, and adding even the Toyota Prius' 150-pound battery pack results in slower acceleration and less responsive handing. That doesn't even include the additional weight of the electric motor, transmission components, and additional wiring. (Yes, I said wiring. Every ounce counts!) In a hybrid sports car, weight (or at least the center of gravity) must be kept low.
Sports cars are quite often small and bare-bones, lacking large trunks and storage spaces that can be sacrificed to store the battery packs. So the additional issue of where to put the batteries is created. No wonder the first hybrids were small SUVs with plenty of space!
Then, there's the bigger bombshell issue of technology transparency.
For the most part, sports car guys are sort of Luddites, at least where the drive train is concerned. Don't believe me? Google "Synchro Rev Match" and read some of the condescending things drivers have to say about Nissan's newest feature. But who can blame them? Historically, adding too much technology to the mix has dulled the driver's connection to the vehicle. (I'm looking at you, torque-converter automatic transmission!)
Years of poorly performing automatic transmissions has made enthusiasts wary of technology.
(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET)Only recently, with the widespread acceptance of DSG, SST, PDK and other double-clutch, automated-manual acronyms and advanced all-wheel drive systems have enthusiast drivers begun to accept that perhaps tech can be a good thing for performance. Which brings us back to the idea of hybrid sports cars.
For the most part, people's conceptions of how a sports car's hybrid drive train would feel end up right back were we started with the Prius. However, I contend that the template for a sports car hybrid is, at this point, a blank slate. There is no high performance hybrid being manufactured on a grand scale today (unless you count the Lexus GS450h, which I don't).
I've always thought that a good performance hybrid drive should work something like an inverted turbocharger (building power at the bottom end of the powerband with instant-on torque, instead of at the top like a spooling turbo) making a small motor feel larger and torquier, while maintaining efficiency, or removing the feeling of lag from a turbocharged engine. Power transitions should be smooth. The driver should only feel an increase in power, not two powerplants fighting for control of the driven wheels.
Alternatively, a performance hybrid could work something like an old-school exhaust bypass switch or the M-Power button on a BMW M-car, operating efficiently until a Mr. Hyde button is pressed and the power of the electric drive train is uncorked.
We're interested in hearing what you think the performance hybrids of the future will look, feel, sound, and smell like. Is such a thing even feasible? Sound off in the comments section below.

propelling the car. If done properly, he won't even be aware that there are two motors running simultaneously.
Not to mention, an engine working solely as a generator can be better tuned as such, and could run at a constant RPM without varying strains, meaning it could be that much more efficient.
However, if you want all-out, balls-to-the-wall power, do independent motors. I'm talking a motor on each wheel, giving you 100% true all-wheel-drive, and without the horrible loss of efficiency created by the driveshaft, etc. in every other car on the road. This thing would be a beast in terms of cornering, and you would lose the weight of the driveshaft, central tranny, etc. making the car that much lighter.
If cost is not an object, than do as much carbon-fiber as possible, and probably lithium-ion for the battery pack. Lose as much weight as possible and be sure to position things so as to keep center of gravity low and well balanced. Perhaps batteries up front, generator in rear?
Anyway, that would be my approach...
By the way, toyota was prototyping an electric sports car which had a motor for each wheel...
Put this arrangement into a lightweight 2-seater with decent trunk space and price below $30K and you would have a sure winner. A retractable hardtop (ala Mazda Miata) wold be a nice bonus, but be careful not to sacrifice too much trunk space or add too much to the price.
I would by such a car in a heartbeat.
So debate all you want on how to get that so called "power." A sports car is not 150-200 hp with 125 lb/ft of torque. LOL!!!
Both cars are 100% all electric and will embarrass your 350z off the line and 0-60. I'd classify them as sport's cars based upon their performance but if you want to go off of horse power, which doesn't tell you anything about a car, that is great.
Has anyone been following the use of the KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System), as used in Formula One? I know some of these systems are not true hybridization by general definitions, but the added weight has been giving the chassis engineers headaches, but the extra 80HP or so produced by the various systems have given significant boosts in speed, although they have only just realized that the boost for the car trying to overtake is nullifed by the boost that the driver in front can also access!
Finally, let's not forget handling, which is my number one priority. The car I drive is not quick off the line, but it handles wonderfully and has excellent acceleration above 30MPH. Power is not everything. Anyone ever driven a Mazda Miata? Don't tell me that is not a sports car! :)
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by Scott Gardener
May 11, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
- I've wondered for years why we weren't seeing electric power and instant torque used in anything short of the Lexus GS450h. I'm really looking forward to seeing Tesla Motors owning the American auto industry with a capital "P."
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