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May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT

GM: Six speeds better than four

by Wayne Cunningham
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GM six-speed transmission

GM shows the insides of its six-speed transmission.

(Credit: GM)

GM touts its six-speed-automatic transmissions in video and blog form today, highlighting the kind of power train technology that should keep the company competitive. Engineer Jeff Lux provides some insight into GM transmission advances in his blog entry, and another transmission engineer, Scott Damman, narrates a video with some interesting animations showing how these transmissions work.

The blog points out the four percent fuel efficiency that can be gained when using a six-speed transmission over a four speed. GM has nine different six-speed transmissions, and is working on a 10th, with 40 models using them. Those numbers are likely to go down with model and brand cutbacks. We're also not sure why GM needs 10 different transmissions when four should do, such as one for small cars, one for larger sedans and crossovers, one for SUVs, and a performance model for cars like the Corvette. Either the number of transmission shows GM's inefficiency, or the blogger is counting versions with slightly different gearing.

Other work toward improving performance mentioned in the blog involves the software used to control torque converter lock-up, which shows how even power trains are incorporating advanced technology. And we're all for eliminating the slush from automatic transmissions.

Another fuel saving technology GM is rolling out in the Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain is an Eco mode, a button that makes the transmission upshift earlier and hold high gears longer, thus improving fuel economy. Here's a suggestion: make that Eco mode the normal Drive mode.

Click here to read the blog.

This video is entertaining if you like to see how the innards of a transmission look.

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by rrod182 May 13, 2009 4:52 PM PDT
Wow. So that new 6-speed Tahoe will get 18.72 MPG now. Brilliant! And how much bailout money did this fantastic technologic achievement cost tax payers. GM go away.
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by MongooseProXC May 14, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
I am a big fan of GM but that is funny!
by Tod Smith May 14, 2009 4:51 AM PDT
Should we had this 10 years ago?

I thought they were to focus on electric and hydrogen automotives.
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by paulimusmaximus May 14, 2009 5:27 AM PDT
Yeah, I remember when some foreign companies (I think Nissan) started using six speeds about 10 years ago. And if you go look, their entry level cars (the versa and cube) have six speeds now. Not like GM, which if you watch the video are mostly on cadillacs, or other pricier cars.
by raffr May 14, 2009 5:48 AM PDT
First off the only cars with 6 speed AUTOMATIC transmissions 10 years ago where BMWs. The Nissan Versa and Cube have 6 speed manual transmissions. They use CVTs as their automatics. While GM has had many issues over the years, their automatic transmissions have always been the best in the world. Even Rolls Royce used their automatics back in the 70s. By the way the first car sold with a full automatic transmission was a Oldsmobile from the late '40s.
by oassaf May 14, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
Hey Maximus, I drive an 08 Saturn Vue with a 6 speed automatic and that by know means is a pricier car
by May 14, 2009 5:22 AM PDT
First of all, wow what ignorance... Don't like the Tahoe, don't buy one... simple... Like it or not, companies are in it to make money, and guess what, they make more money with a big truck than they can with a mid-sized car.
Hydrogen is dead. Obama administration is in the process of killing hydrogen. so all the money Honda, GM and Ford was for nothing. Atleast in North America. As far as I know Europe is still willing to go hydrogen. This is the problem... all these car companies put millions/billions of dollars in to developing new power plants that run on various types of fuels. They tend to go with what the Fed Govt wants... The Fed Govt changes course, coasting all these companies far too much money. Part of the problem with auto industry here is Fed Govt related...
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by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:36 AM PDT
Hydrogen for now is unrealistic. Until someone forks over serious development capital for building widespread hydrogen delivery INFRASTRUCTURE, it's a pipe dream. It's not the cars that matter, it's the hydrogen refueling stations...and the storage farms...etc., etc.
by molotov May 14, 2009 5:28 AM PDT
This is what will tear the banruptsy. You would think these transmissions will go into GM cars, but they are not. The technology will be sold at pennies on a dollar to anyone [another {foreign} car company, duh] during the bankruptsy restructuring process. Another mediocre idea that will be lost to a foreign company/sovereign wealth fund. Salam Alaikum!
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by Curler01 May 14, 2009 7:41 AM PDT
Wow, this guy gets PAID to write car tech articles?? I hardly know anything about cars and i see holes in his commentary. First of all GM needs 10 transmissions because it makes so many different models: FWD and RWD/AWD need different transmissions, small cars, mid-size cars, ZR1 performance corvette, crossovers, SUVs, pickup trucks, heavy duty GMC trucks. How can you say 4 transmissions can service all those models? Secondly do you think people would buy more GM products if when they test drove them they lugged around at 1500 rpm making them seem slow and heavy compared to the competition? Talk about not fun to drive. There is certainly a place for ECO mode and i'm glad there including it but it shouldn't be the norm. Sorry but Wayne Cunningham needs to think a little bit before he writes his articles.
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by wcunning May 14, 2009 9:50 AM PDT
It is inefficient to have to build 10 different transmissions, which requires different tooling on assembly lines, when you really only have a handful of basic vehicle platforms. Of course, like I wrote, GM may be fudging those numbers by including transmissions in the same basic casings with slightly different gearing. But look at a company like Nissan, which gets by with just a couple of basic engines and a few different transmissions. Nissan puts its VQ series V-6 into everything from mid-size sedans to performance cars to crossovers to trucks. The company uses its continuously variable transmission across many of its models, too. It's more efficient to standardize on a few good components rather than build a dozen, which could partly explain why GM is experiencing financial difficulties. It's also not the right time to be bragging about how many different transmissions it builds.
by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
As I answered below, the general use of the VQ--as well as other standardized engines for other cylinder displacements--was a necessary GIVEN for Nissan; they were staring at their own bankruptcy only a few years back. Renault came to their rescue, and Goshn wasn't about to spend needless cash on allowing Nissan to build whatever their engineers wanted, which was pretty much how they had been doing business before the French took them over.

GM can certainly LEARN from that business model, but then again GM's been using a lot of tech across platforms for a long, LONG time. Not since the '70s has individual divisions built distinctly different (but overly similar) powerplants. The first set of oil crises took care of most of that redundant wastefulness a long time ago. GM's biggest problem has been the cash cows (aka SUVs) that they were banking on for so long. And now it's their ability to ADAPT updated tech like this 6-sp box to their assembly lines; it takes HARD CASH to get all the infrastructure into all of the assembly plants that will be installing these boxes, something that's clearly been in short supply.
by tcr071 May 14, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
And yet this "engineering feat" will still be put inside a car made with crappy materials, poorly designed and bland exterior, mediocre (at best) interior with boring and dull cabin tech, generic bland wheels and rims, and a Chevy logo on the front.

The new 2010's Ford Focus, Ford Focus Coupe, Ford Focus Electric, Ford Fusion, Ford Fusion Hybrid, etc are all REDESIGNS from the interior and exterior (the Focus is a pull from their European version with a slight design change) and focusing on FUEL ECONOMY. Ford is not touting any humongous SUV's because humongous SUV's are S.T.U.P.I.D. Ford is actually converting truck and SUV factories into factories to make smaller cars because that is what people want.

You can go through every single car on the GM page and not find a single one in the $10,000 - $25,000 range that looks great, has a nicely designed interior, and gets great gas mileage. If GM still hasn't figured out what it takes, like Ford has, then I see no future for the company.
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by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
I take it that you haven't really DRIVEN a Chevy lately, have you?

Then again, you DO sound like a Blue Oval fanboy (or employee), anyways.
by unidoggy May 14, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Nice tranny. Will GM make it available in all of those cars that they are going to import from China? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090514/D985PEDO0.html
The Car of the Year is going to be an Obama Motors car, made in China.
So sorry for all of you folks that worked for GM, they don't need you anymore. Chrysler too. Not your fault, but what a kick in the teeth. Or lower.
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by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
Bull. The UAW and its workers ARE a big part of the Big Three's problem. Ever look closely at those union contracts they consistently force on management? Why even bother working? You'd get ALMOST as much being laid off.]

The threat of strikes and labor slowdowns always caused GM (and Ford and Chrysler) to take cover and generally give in to most UAW demands. They got away with it so long, and didn't give a rat's azz about the welfare of the guys who have to sign and BANKROLL those fat checks the workers cash in.
by Myshkin57 May 14, 2009 10:14 AM PDT
Wouldn't a CVT (continuously variable transmission) be better than a six speed automatic? I would think it would be. This "advance" (Hey! Let's throw in some more gears and pretend it's better technology) is only a minimal improvement.
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by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
Depends on how well the CVT is programmed. There are latent drivability issues when a transmission is constantly hunting or--in the case of a CVT--sliding around trying to find the perfect drive ratio. Despite the theoretical ideal, the car's performance feels as if it's sloppy, "rubbery" and anything BUT precise. To counteract this sloppiness, even Nissan uses virtual, programmed 'gear ratios' with its CVT transmission in the current Maxima.
by Myshkin57 May 14, 2009 2:15 PM PDT
@ make_or_break:
But wouldn't it make more sense to work on the drivability issues of a CVT and turn out something that's a real improvement rather than this watered-down nonsense? In my opinion, unless an automatic transmission-driven automobile can be made to be as efficient as a properly driven manual transmission, the purchase of such vehicles should be taxed out the wazoo.
by madcow06 May 14, 2009 10:56 AM PDT
wayne, you mention how inefficient it is to have so many transmissions and how nissan has it right with using the same v-6 engine in many cars. As far as i am concerned GM is the king of using the same parts in many cars. Any of they're cars in the 90's and up till recently with a v-6 either had the 3.1 3.4 or 3.8, and that crosses a lot of different models. Not to mention how long the original 2.2 4 cylinder was used in small to midsize cars and even small trucks until the new 2.2 replaced it in 2003. On the mention of making ECO drive the normal mode it would only give the impression that the vehicle has the performance of a geo metro. If you want to use that mode then make it an option not the standard, you would have to switch off of it every time you needed to merge in traffic or not to mention times when you need to punch it to avoid an accident.
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by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Plus, it's not like Nissan had much of a choice but to re-use their VG and subsquent VQ family of V-6 engines for different applications; it wasn't THAT long ago that Nissan was bleeding $36 BILLION a year themselves. And as a reminder, it ultimately took a TAKEOVER by Renault and Carlos Goshn to right that flailing ship.
by make_or_break May 14, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
This video comes off as some sort of knee-capped PR piece. 6-sp autoboxes have been around for a while; having six forward gears in a slushbox is nothing new. Heck, 7 and 8 speed autoboxes are now available or in the works from other makers.

PR department spin doctoring to hide the fact that GM neglected to move away from their older autobox designs when everyone else was a decade or so ago.
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