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July 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT

Spark plugs giving way to lasers

by Wayne Cunningham

Spark plugs, patented by Robert Bosch and Nikola Tesla in 1898, are about to be replaced by lasers.

(Credit: Sonett72)

Say goodbye to spark plugs, a 19th century technology about to be supplanted by lasers. The U.K. paper The Telegraph reports that Ford is working with the University of Liverpool to develop a laser ignition system for internal-combustion engines. That's right: engines with frickin' lasers strapped to their heads.

The laser beam is delivered by a thin, fiber-optic cable to a focusing lens that would take up much less space than a spark plug, allowing engineers greater flexibility in designing valves and cylinders. The laser beam can be split to ignite the fuel mixture from multiple points deep in the cylinder, making for a more efficient burn than a spark plug can achieve, reducing emissions and getting better fuel economy. Another advantage to the laser system is that part of the beam can be reflected to a receiver and used to gather data on the fuel mixture and the quality of the burn.

And this isn't merely a research project, as there are working prototypes of the system at the University of Liverpool laboratory. Ford, which has eagerly been adopting fuel efficiency technology such as electric-power steering and six-speed transmissions, reportedly will use the laser ignition system in some of its cars over the next couple of years, then spread the technology to the full range.

(Source: The Telegraph)

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by monkeyfun14 July 16, 2009 10:44 AM PDT
And people say Ford isn't innovative..
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by Seaspray0 July 16, 2009 4:57 PM PDT
WAY COOL!!!!!
by eeee July 17, 2009 6:25 AM PDT
BS. People have a perception that is totally false. American car firms have the no how such as this.
by eeee July 17, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
Correction on my rushed typo:
BS. People have a perception about American car firms that is totally false.
American car firms have the KNOW HOW such as this.
Too many people are parrots and just repeat what someone says even if it is false
by tipoo_ July 16, 2009 10:50 AM PDT
What about the Pulse Plug, by Pulstar? That was out a long time ago.
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by rellik42 July 17, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
The Pulse Plug isn't really much of a new invention. It's just a large capacitor attached to a standard spark plug so that there's more current passed through the plug in a shorter amount of time than traditional ones (creating a bigger spark). Granted, it is an improvement, but not on the scale of this.

The innovation in a laser-fired spark plug is the ability to ignite not just a bigger chunk of the same part of the cylinder, but multiple points throughout, resulting in more even combustion, and the fact that the laser can be reflected back off the inside of the cylinder allows for data to be transmitted about each firing.
by mkuk71 July 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
For crying out loud, with all the stories about global warming, climate change, fossil fuel resources etc etc etc, would it not be a better use of Ford's time and money to be innovating development in renewable and greener sources of energy rather than finding new ways to burn oil.

It's amazing they've come up with something so clever when they're obviously thick as two short planks!
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by monkeyfun14 July 16, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
"The laser beam can be split to ignite the fuel mixture from multiple points deep in the cylinder, making for a more efficient burn than a spark plug, reducing emissions and getting better fuel economy. Another advantage of the laser system is that part of the beam can be reflected to a receiver and used to gather data on the fuel mixture and the quality of the burn."

What do you know that thing called reading is useful after all.
by Me-Ruud July 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Lol Did you even read the article??

Quote:
"The laser beam can be split to ignite the fuel mixture from multiple points deep in the cylinder, making for a more efficient burn than a spark plug, reducing emissions and getting better fuel economy"

Reducing emissions --> better for environment
Better fuel economy --> better for environment
by zyxxy July 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Um, new ways to burn less oil, perhaps? Don't let perfect by the enemy of good.

Maybe you should try to be as clever as them.
by T_Hoff July 16, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
What do you think is easier and more effective: replacing spark plugs to reduce emissions from untold millions of cars already on the road, or replace all existing vehicles with electric or hydrid equivalents? Even a hybrid could benefit from this innovation.
by Renegade Knight July 16, 2009 11:41 AM PDT
Nope. Since they make cars they are better off figuring out how to make the ways we run them and fuel them work better.

It's for others to find other sources of sustainable fuel (like electricity).
by freemarket--2008 July 17, 2009 5:50 AM PDT
Even plug-in hybrids will have IC engines, so the more efficient the better. Affordable pure electric vehicles are still a long ways off.
by eeee July 17, 2009 6:29 AM PDT
read the article and see that it answer your beef!
by dragonbite July 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Sounds like a cool step forward.
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by sartor1 July 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT
Um, the development of a laser spark plug might be a moot point..
As electric cars become more widespread, there won't be a need for Laser spark plugs,
as there won't be any Gasoliine powered Cars! DOH!

Ford would be better off developing new battery technology!

Watch 'Who Killed The Electric Car?" for more inspiration.
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by monkeyfun14 July 16, 2009 11:22 AM PDT
Until a electric car can hit 160mph atleast and can go 0-60 in 4 seconds a demand for gasoline vehicles will be there.

What we do need is non polluting fuel though.
by wcunning July 16, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
Unfortunately, electric cars aren't going to take the place of gas-powered cars overnight. There are still a lot of development to be worked out in battery technology. We will definitely still have gas cars for the next 10 years at least, with probably a growing segment of plug-in hybrids. That is, unless there is some breakthrough in battery technology.
by doubtthat July 16, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
What about all the vehicles that can't be powered by all electric engines? What about hybrids? The electric car isn't the be-all, end-all answer the greeners would have you believe.
by wcunning July 16, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
To doubtthat: It's not just the "greeners" who are betting on electric cars, everyone in the automotive industry knows that electric cars are the future. Just talk to any engineer from a major auto manufacturer. It will just take a while for the technology to get there. As for different types of vehicles being electric-powered, since train engines can be run by electric motors, any car can, even big trucks. Caterpillar now has a big bulldozer that uses a series hybrid powertrain, with electric motors powering the tracks. The problem isn't in the electric drivetrain, the problem is storing enough electricity on the vehicle to power the motors.
by pfbarranis July 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
If I'm not mistaken, this is exactly what rotary engines need to finally be more fuel effecient. They've always been a physically more effecient design, but they lacked a good ignition system to provide a clean burn. This could finally put the rotary engine on top, which would mean even better fuel economy than what this technology would do inside a standard piston engine. Very cool.
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by ikramerica--2008 July 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
Rotary hybrid anyone?

Also, how might this tech apply to diesel engines? Right now, they fire from compression, with glow plugs "helping" them along by keep the fuel warmer.
by Seaspray0 July 16, 2009 5:04 PM PDT
It won't really help the diesel since the burn is generated from the heat of compression. As for the rotary, it will help stop the blowby gasses around the plug, but the compression ratio is too low for good efficiency and the apex seals still need improvement. There is another rotary design out there that's different from the wankle design that shows some promise.
by rucknrun July 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
Good luck keeping the lens clean. Electric Cars may be the future but is coal cleaner then oil?

There is no easy answer.
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by rdrangr July 17, 2009 7:37 AM PDT
That was my first thought too. They must have thought of this. Perhaps they self clean by burning debris off the lens?
by MaggieRed July 16, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
It will never happen anyway, obama didn't create new legislation to mandate it and figure out a way to tax it. In addition, Ford is obama's enemy as they didn't succumb to the political pressure and allow themselves to be taken over by the government.
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by eeee July 17, 2009 6:23 AM PDT
thanks for political diatribe that adds nothing to the discussion about TECHNOLOGY!!
by workshopmusic July 18, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
Let's keep our eyes on some facts. The companies that received bailouts asked for them, they were not pressured nor were they taken over.

Obama's administration clearly does not intend to get into the car business nor do they intend government to ultimately manage private industry. Nothing has been nationalized a la Venezuela.

GM and Chrysler are both out of receivership. Ford did not need loans since they did a major loan deal before the bottom fell out of the economy. Ford even put up as collateral the blue oval logo. Ford was also a little smarter, having some vehicles ready for the change in the market. The Fusion and the Mustang, and now Taurus.

Free market capitalism: It's about product, quality and confidence, giving value to your customer, not working a political agenda to get what you want.
by Moozle July 16, 2009 1:49 PM PDT
I would like to know what wavelength of laser is being used. Infrared - to ignite the fuel mixture with heat? Ultraviolet - to literally blast the electrons off the fuel molecules? Some tuned visible light that matches the absorption of the fuel?

Remember also that ignition systems use electricity generated by the engine via
an alternator. That electrical generation reduces the gas milage. If a laser system
uses less electricity, it will increase the milage. Likewise if the laser system is lighter overall than the spark ignition system.

In any case I wouldn't worry about "cleaning the lens." With a blast of laser light like that
the lens should be self-cleaning. Also, many forms of soot are transparent to certain wavelengths of light or IR or UV; i.e., many infrared gunsites see clearly through smoke
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by wcunning July 16, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
The original article doesn't specify the wavelength, but it does say that the laser ignition system uses less electricity than spark plugs.
by Pete Bardo July 16, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Sure, it would be cool to retrofit existing engines with this laser system, but that doesn't appear to be what Ford is after. Electric cars don't have to be fast to be attractive to consumers, but a range of more than 100 miles would really help. Plenty of people, especially in California and on the East coast drive further than that every day going to and from work, some going that far each direction.

It is very interesting that it took over 100 years to come up with a solution better than the spark plug!
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by Vegaman_Dan July 16, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
Lasers, being optical, need clean optics to work or the output can be reduced or even damage the lense itself. An engine is by its very nature a very dirty environment. I'm curious how this would work on an engine that isn't tuned up perfectly- you know, the way some engines tend to foul plugs with oil or carbon due to valve adjustments, improper fuel mixtures, or blowback through the compression rings on the piston.

Should be interesting to see how this develops.
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by Seaspray0 July 16, 2009 5:11 PM PDT
Force fields. Yea, that's it.
by eeee July 17, 2009 6:18 AM PDT
I just replaced the factory original spark plugs in my 65,400 mile Chrysler V6 motor in my Dodge. All 6 plugs came out with the light gray/tan normal color on the electrode tips. Champion OEM platinum plugs. The cars will be 9 years old in Nov 2009 and is used 90% in stop and go city driving with litle highway driving. The aluminum engine block has iron sleeves for the pistons chambers.
No oil fouling on this motor; no sludge either with regular oil changes every 3,000-3,500 per my practice since buying my first junker used car over 35 years ago
by libertyforall1776 July 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT
The perfect addition to Direct Injection -- too bad this isn't in the new DI V6 Camaro...
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by eeee July 17, 2009 6:14 AM PDT
Sounds Good GO FORD !! Let's see how fast Toyota steals it and invents a new word for the same technology................
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by Craigc19 July 18, 2009 6:01 AM PDT
Perhaps I am from what you would consider the, 'Old School of Journalism,' but did author Wayne Cunningham need to use the word, 'frickin' to describe lasers, that are being experimented with for taking over for spark plugs?
Craig Michaels
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by Sergio526 July 18, 2009 10:41 AM PDT
It's a line from the movie Austin Powers. The villain, Dr. Evil, froze himself for thirty years. When thawed out, he figured incorrectly that technology had advanced enough so that he could have sharks with lasers attached to their heads. When he found out that this wasn't possible yet, he exclaimed something to the effect of "Is it too much to ask to have sharks with frikin' lasers on their heads?"
by TCrimson05 July 20, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
ok.......thats cool
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by greggo2009 July 23, 2009 10:21 AM PDT
another Ford recall
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by Johnwallson August 2, 2009 4:23 AM PDT
Wow.., Its good concept and I think it it very helpful as compare to spark plug.

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