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Coupe love

by Wayne Cunningham
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Nissan GT-R

The Nissan GT-R proves that the coupe is the best body style in the world.

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET)


I love coupes. I would go so far as to say that the coupe is the best style of car in the world. Limiting a full-size car to two doors may fly in the face of practicality, but it allows for much more body style than a sedan. Automotive designers get to play with the roofline and equip a coupe with real fenders, making for a sporty-looking package. The best a sedan can do is look stately.

Roadsters are loads of fun, but a soft top just says you're not taking driving that seriously. A coupe means business, ready to take on all sorts of weather, with a hard top that can be shaped for aerodynamics.

The only negative aspect of a coupe is the rear seat. Most coupe rear seats are a joke, cramped little spaces that serve as much purpose as your appendix, or a vestigial tail.

In honor of the coupe, I've collected our last 10 coupe reviews and added a little commentary about those rear seats. Enjoy! I certainly did while driving these cars.

Coupe love: 10 two-door cars

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by trey68 September 24, 2009 6:54 AM PDT
Some great cars on the list. There are truly a lot of well designed coupes on the market right now. The BMW 6 series is NOT one of them, however. With a trunk lid that looks like a fiberglass aftermarket kit to the obesity problem of this overweight ugly duckling, why would anyone be seen in an M6 when there are so many beautiful coupes out there? The designer of this montrosity has thankfully been forced out of BMW though, so there's hope for the future.
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by wcunning September 24, 2009 9:41 AM PDT
I agree about the 6. The trunk lid looks like an afterthought, just tacked on, and the front end is bland. With the 6, you want to get into it quickly, so as not to spend a lot of time looking at the body, and get right to that BMW driving goodness.
by make_or_break September 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Ahh...the legacy of Chris Bangle...forever known for the 'Bangle Butt' styling cue.
by nauj_solrac September 24, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
Are you serious?

I have seen some BMW M6's on the road and it looks pretty sweet. It's very sleek and powerful and it's solid like a tank.

Although, the Infiniti G37 Coupe is still my favorite.
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by troyoverton September 24, 2009 10:43 AM PDT
Skylines have been pretty tight the last couple years, so I get ya. I loved my Maxima, and I have quite a bit of faith in Nissan products. I agree that the M6 is not a typical BMW, in terms of looks or overall design compared to other Beemers.

I (more or less) liked all the cars, and the one I want to drive the most is the GTR, but when it comes to ownership, the one that strikes me the most... I want the keys to a Challenger...
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by MoreDirectKdaddy September 24, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
I have no problem with the 10 cars listed, but why on Earth would you leave out the Mustang GT and/or the Shelby GT500???? In head to head testing by Car & Driver, as well as Road & Track Magazine the standard GT stang beat the Camaro and Challenger. I would also think that speaking strictly in terms of techno-gadgetry it would have more merit (Does the Ford Sync by Microsoft ring a bell??). The Dodge certainly has the most nostalgic look, and the Camaro is sexy, but come on we're talking about the ORIGINAL pony car and it's lighter, handles better, gets better fuel economy, has a much nicer interior design, sounds meaner, AND (in the case of the GT500) faster!

Okay I'm done ranting. :-)
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by wcunning September 24, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
This wasn't a round-up of the best coupes, just the most recent we've seen here at Car Tech. The Mustang would have been in there if we had reviewed one in the past year. And yes, given that the 2010 models get Sync, navigation, the whole works, they will have better cabin tech than the other cars on this list.

I have a request in to get a 2010 Ford Mustang GT in for review. The schedule isn't set yet, but we should have a review of that car in the next couple of months.
by Daekwan17 September 24, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
MoreDirectKdaddy is absolutely right. How the Mustang was left off this list is unthinkable. The original "pony" car is what the coupe is all about. 2 doors, 4 seats, lightweight and affordable for most people.

Why the 370z was put on this list I also dont understand. A 2 seater car, is just that.. A 2 seater. Or one could even argue a 2 seater is a pure sports car. Regardless if it doesnt have a backseat, then its not a true coupe. Also its twin the G37 is already on this list.

Do us all a favour and remove the Z.. and add the Mustang. It will give you list alot more credibility.
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by PhilTech914 September 25, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
Are you kidding?!? Where is the Ford Mustang, with it's Microsoft Sync System?!? Or how about the VW GTI, with it's fantastic NAV system. Surely, it should be considered more tech savvy then the lowly Challenger, or waste of money Genesis Coupe. This isn't a top 10, is it?

Wait, wait... I just read the other comments. Okay, I'll shut up now. Thanks.
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by make_or_break September 25, 2009 12:24 PM PDT
My guess is that you've never driven the Genesis. Your loss.

So...has the Blue Oval finally figured out how to build the interior with good QC? Considering the 'Mustnag' still floats its boat with a SOLID REAR AXLE, and that the V-6 Camaro does power the same as that old mare's V-8, that's some real "modern tech" (where it REALLY counts) you got there.
by smiffsmack September 25, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
Uh ok. No Z-series BMW's or Honda S2000? But a Hyundai? Errr.....ok.
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by wcunning September 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
The Z4 and the S2000 are roadsters, not coupes.
by az-gold September 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT
Ahem, if I might interject an ounce of reality here, there ARE other more preformance proven "coupes" than the ones that appear on PS2 , weii or one of those other technolobotomy crainial retrofits. Come on people, get up and go take a look out the window onto the REAL world.

Corvette. Plain and simple. And if the LT doesn't have enough squirrels runnin' under the hood. to suit ya,then go try a Z06. Styling, performance, wow factor and oh yes.....2 DOORS.
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by make_or_break September 25, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
No Porsches. Well at least I know which end of the stick you judge by. (hint: it ain't the sharp end)
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by invisible21 September 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
I second the S2000. Yes, it's a roadster which Wayne says means you don't take driving seriously, but everybody I know who drives one is dead serious about driving and probably autocrosses more than anybody driving a maserati. The S2000 was constantly ranked near the top of the sports car heap for years and it is an amazing technological achievement.

That being said, where the heck is Porsche (pretty much any of them), or Koenigsegg, or the Lotus Elise (Amazing and affordable). On the american side, the Corvette is tops and is an amazing value. I'm also not discounting the Mustang variants, although from a styling pov they're worthless in my opinion.

As for the VW GTI comment. That is a hatchback (technically 3-doors), not a coupe, and personally I'd vote for the R32 over the GTI but that's just me.
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by make_or_break September 29, 2009 2:21 PM PDT
A vert is a vert and it definitely ain't a coupe. As good as the S2000 is, it simply doesn't qualify without the fixed top. Heck, even the GTI is closer to being a coupe than a convertible...one could always argue that the hatch is just a glorified trunk lid.
by September 25, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
A nice list, but I would have switched out the Dodge Challenger for the Mustang, the Chevy Camaro for the Porsche Cayman, and the Mercedes E550 for the upcoming E63 AMG model. Just my opinions...
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by joevai52 September 25, 2009 10:04 PM PDT
Seriously, do that many of you really have that much trouble reading? It seems as though a bunch of you missed this sentence in the blog post: "In honor of the coupe, I've collected our last 10 coupe reviews and added a little commentary about those rear seats."

Obviously this post isn't about which ones they think are best or which are their favorites; these are just the last 10 that they have reviewed. Please, pay attention and read (and pay attention to what you are reading) before spouting off.
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by make_or_break September 29, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
A little wound up, are we? So what if we're more visual than literary...at least we're ENJOYING ourselves while doing so, which apparently you are not. So who's losing out now?
by joevai52 September 29, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
In fact, I'm not wound up at all, and I enjoyed the slide show very much. I guess I just don't understand how not reading the entire introduction to the slide show and then decrying the authors for leaving out certain vehicles even though the slide show had nothing to do with the best coupes or their favorite coupes can add to one's enjoyment. Do you mean that in order to enjoy myself, I need to skip the introduction, look at the pictures, then write a comment about how their list is stupid because they left out what I think is the greatest coupe in the world, even though if I had just read the entire introduction, I would have known that wasn't remotely what the slide show was showcasing? If that's what you mean, then I guess I can never have fun looking at one of these slide shows. You'll have to have fun for me.

All I'm trying to do is gain a little insight into how so many people who are clearly capable of both reading and writing/typing can miss something so easy to spot in the intro to the slide show. Can they not be bothered to spend 10 seconds reading the intro even though they will spend a lot more time looking at the pictures and then posting an erroneous comment? I'm just curious because I don't understand it.
by duppenthalerj September 26, 2009 4:59 PM PDT
You say, "The only negative aspect of a coupe is the rear seat.". I think another even bigger downside is getting in and out of the car in parking lots due to the wider front doors.
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by make_or_break September 30, 2009 1:41 AM PDT
@joevai52,
Well part of that missed reading is probably because the typical 'car guy' (or gal) thinks with their heart and not necessarily their head. Start talking cars--especially performance-oriented cars--in any sort of list form, and the emotions will take over.

Plus if you read the preceding blog thread just prior to this one, CNET had a first drive in the 370Z Nismo, and while it wasn't called a "review" by them the posting certainly READ like one regardless; there are plenty of passages where some judgment was rendered (so if it quacks like a duck...). Yet the Nismo variant of the 370Z wasn't part of this list, only the tamer standard Z is...so what really ARE the standards for establishing this "last 10" coupes they reviewed, anyways? Perhaps it's all beside the point, but at least I though it was an insightful side note as to what does (and what does not) get CNET's interest and tickles their collective fancy. And if nothing else, the sort of coupes that they DO sample can at least be scrutinized.

When I made my 'no Porsches' post, it wasn't just because I'm a fan of the marque but also because Porsche has been promoting all the new engine technology in the 2010 models, particularly in their improvements regarding CO2 emissions, improved running costs and general betterment with regards to environmental concerns as far as a gas-burning high performance engine goes, that is...something that CNET does seem to write quite a bit about when it comes to vehicle review. Yet no new-tech Porsches were reviewed lately (or at all), yet all the traditional automotive trade publications have been pouring all over these very cars in about this time frame that the rest of their 10 coupes were driven and reviewed in. I don't know about you, but it certainly makes me wonder about CNET's car-centric focus.
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by joevai52 September 30, 2009 7:42 AM PDT
Thanks for the reply. I can understand just wanting to get to the cars. However, in this case, it literally took 10 seconds to read the introduction. I would understand all the people who missed that part if the intro had been much longer; after all, who wants to spend several minutes reading an introduction when they can just get straight to the cars. Also, if people are going to take the time to leave a comment, it means they had the 10 seconds (20 if you read slowly) required to read the introduction.

Your point about the 370Z Nismo is a good one. I can only assume that they only included cars they had written full reviews for or that maybe they just consider the Nismo to be a variant of the standard 370Z (even though it's a very different car).

As far as Porsche reviews are concerned, now that you mention it, I don't remember seeing a Porsche review on this sight, so that is an interesting point to bring up. I would guess it has something to do with how they get their review vehicles. Since they probably rely on manufacturers to send them review units, it could be that they just haven't built up a relationship with Porsche yet. I would be interested to see how Porsche's new engine tech stacks up against something like the 370Z, both performance-wise and fuel efficiency-wise.
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