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September 28, 2009 7:00 AM PDT

TomTom prices iPhone car cradle

by Antuan Goodwin
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TomTom iPhone cradle (Credit: TomTom)

TomTom has finally released pricing for its iPhone car cradle, which is due for release next month. You can expect to lay down $120 when you go to pick up your cradle. That price doesn't include the TomTom turn-by-turn iPhone software, which will add an additional $99 to your purchase price, if you haven't already downloaded it.

So, that means that--at the end of the day--your pockets will be $220 lighter for the whole app and cradle kit, which is only about $20 more than we initially predicted.

Those wondering what you get for the extra cash should look here. If you're still interested after that, the TomTom iPhone cradle goes on sale in October 2009.

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by Stormspace September 28, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
Puleese! With Phones having an average life span of 2 years and Apples tendency to abandon legacy connections I'd say pass on this. I'd much rather have a standalone device that costs half as much and will last years longer.
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by BryanMG September 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT
an excellent point
by flywithsean September 28, 2009 5:27 PM PDT
abandon legacy connections???

They have been using the standard connector for years on the ipod and iphone
by antuan.goodwin September 28, 2009 5:28 PM PDT
That being said, the standard 30-pin dock connector has been around since 2003 on every iPod/iPhone (with the exception of Shuffle models). While I agree that Apple is notorious for changing form factors on a whim (ex. the headphone jack seems to switch sides with every generation of Nano), the physical connection itself has been pretty consistent.
by Stormspace September 28, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
All the way from 2003? Wow! 6 years and no change. That must be some kind of record for Apple. So now I'm wondering why my buddy ditched his external speakers and dock when he got his iPhone. He said the dock wasn't compatible. Was he wrong? Or was the dock changed in a minor way so that it wasn't 100% compatible.

What about that rounded DVI connection on the G4's? Still using that one? VGA? No. There is absolutely no guarantee Apple in it's infinite fickleness would keep the same port. Past behavior with them does not equate to how they will perform in the future. Who would have thought 2 years ago they'd abandon backwards compatibility with PowerPC chips. Oh, that's right. Me. Apple can not be trusted to maintain backwards compatibility with anything because they have limited resources to devote to older technology and drive to move forward and forget the past.
by BigSidLee September 28, 2009 10:34 PM PDT
Apple may have used the same 30-pin connector for six years, but many of the accessories that use that 30-pin connection will not function with the current iPods/iPhones. One glaring example is the older Apple Wall Charger will not work with their own current devices. So, if Apple turns its back on their own accessories, we know they won't hesitate to turn it on a third-party accessory.
by lockoutgirl September 29, 2009 5:12 AM PDT
"One glaring example is the older Apple Wall Charger will not work with their own current devices"

What "older" charger are you referring to? I have a 4th gen ipod with the firewire wall charger and it works perfectly fine with my 6th gen classic ipod. I know of a friend who borrowed the charger that came with a 1st gen Nano to charge her iphone. As far as I've seen, there's complete compatibility across any generation I've come across.
by shinelikeitdoes September 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT
"That being said, the standard 30-pin dock connector has been around since 2003 on every iPod/iPhone (with the exception of Shuffle models). While I agree that Apple is notorious for changing form factors on a whim (ex. the headphone jack seems to switch sides with every generation of Nano), the physical connection itself has been pretty consistent."

The connector is consistent, but functionality is neutered per generation. A car charger/radio tuner that I bought for my ipod several years ago worked fine (charged and transmitted audio to the stereo via tuner) on my 1st generation iPhone. The same accessory used when I upgraded to the iPhone 3g would still charge the iPhone but no longer allowed it to transmit the audio signal. After one of the last iPhone software updates, all functionality is gone. The same accessory still fits perfectly but will no longer charge the device OR allow it to transmit audio to the tuner.
by antuan.goodwin September 29, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
"All the way from 2003? Wow! 6 years and no change. That must be some kind of record for Apple."

Firstly, I'm sure that you understand that 6 years in the tech world is a terribly long time, particularly for a single company/single device proprietary connection.

Secondly, backwards compatibility is overrated. I've still got N64 games lying around my house. Should I expect Nintendo to continue to support this 10+ year old software? How about the controllers? Then why should Apple have to do the same with its hardware? Why doesn't the iPhone not support 3.5-inch floppies? Because progress happens.

At the end of the day, when the new iPhone comes out next year, the year after, or whenever Apple feels like updating, your current iPhone 3G(S) will still work. The accessories that you bought for your current iPhone will still work with it. No one's going to flip a switch and turn your current device off. The choice to upgrade is yours. But part of the opportunity cost of upgrading may be leaving the old device and, potentially, its accessories behind. Armed with that information, if you still choose to upgrade then it's your own decision.

I'm no Apple fanboy and I wholeheartedly agree with your venom for closed "standards" and walled gardens, which is why I don't own an iPhone. But that's a different issue from backwards compatibility. If you don't like what Apple--and by extension, TomTom--is doing with its loose standards, then just buy something else. Vote with your dollar and support any of the more flexible DAPs or smartphones on the market.
by Stormspace October 1, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
Apple has a very poor record when it comes to backwards compatibility. However backward compatibility should not to be dismissed as easily as you seem to want to. The main reason the PS2 did so well was Sony's decision to have the older games work on the current hardware. This decision alone changed the way game console makers approach next gen equipment, since before that it was unheard of for a console to support old games. Now, all game console makers build in backwards compatibility. Businesses too rely on backwards compatibility to protect their investments in equipment. No one wants to have to buy a new printer every time they get a new PC, or a new external hard drive, or any number of things used with PC's. Again, a reason why backwards compatibility can't be dismissed.

Apple has built it's company on leaving people behind, which as far as I'm concerned is why it produces niche products.

This particular product however is frankly too stupid to even consider. It's not like a 20 dollar shell or windshield mount and something already being offered for less that is more reliable.
by zorrillaj September 28, 2009 7:17 AM PDT
Seems pricey. For this price you get a dedicated unit and can still play music or take calls on your phone. Perhaps for a combined $150 it would be ok. Or just getting a different cradle (just a dummy one with no GPS) and using this software on the iPhone might be OK
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by September 28, 2009 7:39 AM PDT
Can you use this cradle while using other GPS software - ie Navigon - on the iPhone?
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by antuan.goodwin September 28, 2009 5:20 PM PDT
My guess is no. You'll most likely have to stick with the TomTom software.
by subie09lega September 28, 2009 7:40 AM PDT
Ouch, way too much. Got Navigon and a mount for less than the TT app. Threw in a BT speaker and all works well for much less than if I had waited to invest in TT.
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by familyclan September 28, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
I'd have to travel a lot more than I do to make this worth it.
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by etiahwhite September 28, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
That's so expensive...considering a new iphone will likely come out next summer and it's about due for a design change. I think I'd be better off just buying a stand alone unit...I mean wow $220 for a cradle and the software that's just so much considering I'm providing the hardware.
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by Stormspace September 28, 2009 8:35 AM PDT
The cradle does have a GPS radio built into it that supplements the one in the iPhone.
by myles taylor September 28, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
You really dropped the ball on this CNet; I saw this on Gizmodo almost a week ago.

That's really expensive. I think they should drop the price of the software down to more like $50 if they want people to buy it. At $220 you might as well buy a dedicated GPS device for your car. That's what I would do anyway.
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by AppleSuxLeo September 28, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
The Swiss-Army-Phone...great at doing many things poorly as compared to a dedicated stand alone device.
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by myles taylor September 28, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
I disagree with that. It makes a very poor GPS device for driving but is great for walking. It does a great number of things really well. The whole PDA experience it does amazingly well and the mobile web browsing is "second to none" to quote CNet reviews. It doesn't do everything well, but the iPhone kicks a lot of stand-alone devices out of the water.
by pjs79 September 28, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
Will definitely buy a stand alone unit after seeing the price of this garbage! Like hello, I will be using the gps only when I'm driving so to say I'm spending $220 for software and cradle when in fact the cradle could become obsolete when apple comes out with 4g and a total re-design of the iphone next year.

Tom Tom you were too slow at getting this product out! Should've came out at the same time as OS 3.0, and do something with your price man I can buy a stand alone unit for less that will provide text to speech!
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by shinelikeitdoes September 29, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
Navigon has text to speech and IMHO is a superior product at least in terms of the iPhone apps. If I were going to buy a stand alone GPS I would get a Garmin. Either way...poo to Tom Tom.
by kswiss01 September 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
do yourself a big favor and go on ebay and find an iphone car holder for $10. I haven't used TomTom software yet, but the Navigon gps software is pretty good for the iphone.

There is an arguement for spending another $80 on a GPS program, but like most of my friends who swear the Iphone is awesome, would like to only carry one piece of equipment around.
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by myles taylor September 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
I hear what you're saying, but if it's something that just sits in your car it's not a big deal. I don't have a car, so it's not an issue with me, but if I did, I would rather buy a dedicated device for my car than try to mod my iPhone into one. Plus, what if I want to use my phone for something else?
by September 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Is there really a GPS receiver in the iphone or are they simulating it with triangulation between cell towers? Because the accuracy SUCKS seriously.
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by doctorvik September 28, 2009 3:15 PM PDT
GPS receiver in the 3gs
by antuan.goodwin September 28, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
There is a GPS receiver in the iPhone 3G and the 3GS. The difference is that the 3GS features a compass as well, so it can detect the direction you're facing without the need for movement, which is great for navigating on foot.
by cg2191 September 28, 2009 7:32 PM PDT
FAIL
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by Jim1348 September 28, 2009 8:07 PM PDT
I read on a different forum that there is a GPS receiver in the cradle mount, thus even the iPod Touch could be used. I agree that it is expensive for what you get, but then isn't that typical of Apple products? I would love to have an iPod Touch and will proably get one for my oldest son for his birthday. I still have the same reservations about it, however. I don't like the closed architecture. I think it is too bad that the unit has to be returned to Apple to replace the battery. I don't like that the end user cannot upgrade memory. I could continue, but you get the idea. Don't get me wrong, both the iPhone and iPod Touch are slick devices, but I just have some concerns.
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by bseaton12 September 28, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
Wow! That seems pretty pricey. Is there also a monthly charge for the software too (updates)? For all that I'll stick with my Palm Pre. Free TeleNav ain't so bad and I can listen to my music/Pandora/ShoutCast/etc in the car via AD2P at the same time to boot.
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by InkyRed September 29, 2009 12:07 AM PDT
Tom Tom huh, will I be able to download that Homer Simpson voice?
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by shores11 September 29, 2009 6:56 AM PDT
I'm happy as a clam with Navigon .... after reading this I'm even happier!
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by blusky08 September 29, 2009 7:35 AM PDT
You could easily buy an excellent stand-alone GPS unit for HALF the price of the TomTom navigation app and cradle. And have zero worries about changing connections, using up your iPhone's battery life or using other apps (like Pandora) while driving. Perhaps $100 would be fair IF the cradle were included, otherwise this pricing structure is simply ABSURD, IMO.
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by cdtphilpot September 29, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
Okay before you guys get too carried away with all you Apple bashing and TomTom bashing I have a simple fix. If you don't like it, don't buy it!! I'm tired of constantly bashing of companies just because you don't like what they offer, if you have a better idea then get off your lazy tush and develop it!! Now for the rest of you who don't whine about every single little thing, below was my iPhone TomTom solution.

I already owned an iPhone charger, and the aux cable for connecting in my truck. I bought the TomTom app, and a $20 cellphone vent clip holder at Target. It's one of those universal expanding ones that fit almost any phone. It will hold the iPhone both vertically and horizontally. I bought the TomTom app the day it came out and have been using it everyday, even for cross country trips and I have yet to have ONE issue. Every now and then it shows me being off the road but it recalculates and corrects itself within a matter of 2-3 seconds.

I turn off the turn by turn voice and I plug in my aux jack and listen to my iPod, make bluetooth calls, and everything works seamlessly.

I seriously think that most of the complainers on CNET don't take into account everything they are getting for $120. GPS chipsets aren't really cheap, and a included power charger worth at least $20, I know it's hard to believe but companies do like to make money so they can pay their employees!
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by bseaton12 September 29, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
I believe that it is not worth the cost since I get EVERYTHING you just describe (except for the Target Clip) for FREE with my Pre and Sprint service. It's not hard to believe that companies need to make money, I think that the real issue is the value proposition.
by Chrisnonstop September 29, 2009 8:59 AM PDT
Cdtphilpot,

I think you're missing the point of this forum. It's here so people can bash and voice their opinions. If we couldn't, companies would never do anything to better themselves. After reading these posts I agree with most of the posters. This TT product is pretty cool, but way over priced.

If it were $100 for both the software and mount I might buy. If it also included and fm transmitter I might be even more interested. However, as things stand right now, I could not justify spending that much on a product that, I can only guess, won't perform as well as a stand alone unit.
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by cdtphilpot October 1, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
You're paying a premium for convenience, the ability to carry your phone, ipod, and turn by turn gps is a convenience, it's the same principle that companies use to charge more for pop at the gas station, convenience.

And I highly doubt companies peruse CNET so they can see what the people that seem to misunderstand the free market think, and then try to better themselves. Companies release a product and people either buy it or they don't, and then the companies react accordingly.
by jasonschlachter September 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
crazy price - I could buy a stand alone TomTom for $100 that would be just as good. I think $100 for software and mount would be my upper limit.

In a year, I think we'll see it at the $100 mark.
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