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October 16, 2009 9:00 AM PDT

Crash testing the maybe-not-so-Smart ForTwo

by Gary Spencer
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If you live in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm sure you're probably familiar with the little golf-cart looking car called the Smart ForTwo. These trendy little things are gas efficient, eco-friendly, and easy to drive, but are they safe? Today's video demonstrates just how potentially dangerous these things are in an accident, so pay attention.

It's been noted that this video has an affiliation with the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, although this claim has been disputed by some Web viewers. Regardless, this video is neat as it shows the testers setting up the crash test dummies for placement inside the vehicles. Then shortly after the 3-minute mark, the Smart ForTwo is pitted in a frontal collision test versus a Mercedes E-Class sedan. And even if you know which car is the safer of the two, you should still pay attention to the outcome as the amount of potential damage to a would-be rider in a so-called "Smart" car is hard to realistically comprehend without seeing it for yourselves.

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by Mr_fleabite October 16, 2009 11:08 AM PDT
The Smart for 2 received a "Good" rating from the IIHS for the categories front, side, roof and an "Acceptable" for rear impact.
The E-class received a "Good" rating for a frontal impact and an "Acceptable" for side impact.

"And even if you know which car is the safer of the two, you should still pay attention to the outcome as the amount of potential damage to a would-be rider in a so-called "Smart" car is hard to realistically comprehend without seeing it for yourselves."

From this video it is hard to conclude what potential damage happened to occupants in either car. The data collected from this impact is not available to the viewer. I saw 4 air bags deploy and 4 heads hit their air bags. I did not see any limbs or body parts exit the vehicles or hit any door pillars. So from a visual perspective its hard to conclude who faired better.

The title of your article seems to direct the reader/ viewer to the conclusion that the Smart for two is not as safe. In my opinion it is difficult to reach this conclusion based solely on this video clip, add to that a quick visit to the IIHS web site for their results and the cars have the same rating for front offset impact, "Good" (their highest rating). I'm not any kind of car crash expert, perhaps you are, am I missing something extraordinarily dangerous about this impact? Sure the small car seems to have more damage, but does that make it less safe? Why the same IIHS rating?
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by stan2000 October 16, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
This is not an IIHS crash unless they have changed their testing. The decals are not the same, there was no paint marking on the dummies and published videos of the crashes, I believe, offer the points of view differently.
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by rmburnside October 16, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
This isn't the iihs crash test that is published on their website, however conclusions are the same.

Try http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4404.pdf

The reality is that the smart for two is rated POOR for the frontal offset crash test. There was a statement by an iihs tester that if they had a rating below poor it would have gotten it because the smart for two did significantly worse than the honda fit and toyota yaris which also were rated POOR.

As should be obvious to the average high school graduate there is no way to bypass physics in a two car crash.
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by randtzimmer October 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT
Gary Spencer... ever think of doing actual research before reporting?
You could have investigated the clues you got from the "web viewers" and saved your credibility.
First, the smart is the older 450 model.
Next, the test was done in Europe, see the worker in the nice overalls?
See the Mercedes emblems on the stickers?
Could these be clues this test has nothing to do with IIHS?
Fact is, this test, along with the REAL data, was used by Mercedes to show the safety of the smart.
This sensational headline and fact-less reporting does not elevate you to a modern Ralph Nader.
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by getagrip42 October 16, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Crash video looks to be by Mercedes (seen it before) of the previous generation car (450 model). I don't think anyone would disagree that the occupant of a significantly larger vehicle has better chances of survival in a rare offset head-on collision. Just as the Hummer driver wouldn't fare well during a head-on with a delivery truck or a Harley rider would be pummeled by a Hyundai Accent. Of all small cars, though, the smart does offer a good safety mix relative to its peers on all models (even the base model with ESP, ABS, side air bags, etc.).

Statistically, I believe that I have a better chances of dying by slipping in the shower or falling down the stairs than dying in a head-on collision in a small car, but I haven't quit taking either. The smart is not for everyone, but it is far from a "deathtrap" and better than many other small cars in that arena. Some people ride motorcycles, some eat at McDonalds, and some go hunting with others carrying rifles - everything we do has an associated risk. Motorcycle riders, hunters, McDonald's patrons, and smart owners must think the benefits of their choice are worth the small risk. And, larger vehicles aren't free of risk either - just ask the thousands killed in SUV/truck rollovers. Obviously, owners of those vehicles feel that the truck/SUV is worth that risk and who am I to question their choice?
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by streamline35 October 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT
I think this is probably the best post I have seen on all the comments relating to all the crash test articles. You have it 100% right.

I think the best point in here, which is one that I repeat often, is this: It is illogical to argue for safety based purely on vehicle size. If we follow this line of logic to its (absurd) conclusion, we should all be driving semi trucks for maximum safety. A camry may win against a yaris, but it won't win against a tundra, and that tundra won't win against a semi truck (which are extremely frequent on the road).

I much prefer small cars for some general reasons - cost, fuel economy, maneuvering/parking, and more stick shift options, but their safety bonus is accident avoidance. It's basically the flip side of their physics disadvantage in crashes - when a bigger car hits a smaller car, all things being equal, the bigger car is better off. However, all things being equal, the momentum of that larger car is going to make it slower to stop and less maneuverable. Personally, I'd trade a higher risk during an accident for a lower risk of being in an accident at all.
by rgaus October 16, 2009 3:19 PM PDT
As the last two submitters noted, this is a 450 European model, not one of the new 451's in this country. Very poor research with outdated information (at least 3 years old). Ron Gaus, St. Louis.
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by randyp90us October 16, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
Not an IIHS test or a USA 451 model. Shame on your poor reporting.
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by gspencer1976 October 17, 2009 12:05 AM PDT
Uh, I put in a disclaimer saying that some tags on the video claimed it was IIHS related, and other comments stated that it was not. It's the first line of the second paragraph, dude.
by gspencer1976 October 17, 2009 12:36 AM PDT
Wow, I had no clue that that a random crash test vehicle featuring a Smart against a Mercedes would breed all this commentary and flaming. This blog and video was not about qualifications on the size and features of the Smart car, nor was it about if it was Mercedes or IIHS or a bunch of hicks in the sticks who conducted this test. This blog and video was about two things: watching the preparations for the test (which is not what we usually see in crash test video), and to show what could happen if a Smart ForTwo gets into a head-on collision with an average size automobile. Factoids and making exceptions aside, the reality is if you are in a Smart ForTwo and you get in a frontal collision, your risk of injury is a lot more likely in a Smart versus damn near any other street vehicle. Seeing is believing, friends. Maybe it's just me, but I'm more concerned with people's likelihood to survive a crash versus who conducted the test. Just sayin'.
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by gabe1475 October 17, 2009 6:17 AM PDT
Gary how about you go out and look at an actual test of the 451 and compare that to the other smaller cars driving around in mass numbers like the yaris, honda fit, and chevy aveo. I guarantee the results from that article would get you better praise as the smart may be the smallest, but it is also the safest. If you can not find the actual video, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU (this is the US version of the smart).
by mjholmes74 October 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT
Gary, you reached a conclusion when you suggested "just how potentially dangerous these things are" - so allow us ForTwo owners to come back and refute your claim, if you will. You don't state how you reached your conclusion. From the video alone, or was there other context and crash injury data that you have? From the video, as one who has seen a hundred crash test videos, what I see is that the front is smaller and took the brunt of the collision but the passenger compartment was not breached. As an informed owner, I can see that the Tridion safety cell did not deform - either not at all, or not enough to transfer injury - the true data is at the testing site and a video alone isn't enough to judge.

The car's safety systems are designed completely differently from your larger car, BECAUSE it is smaller. The front crush area is first, the wheels are second (yes, they are designed as part of the safety system), and then come the force-limiting seat belts, airbags, and collapsible steering wheel. The Tridion protects the driver from the other car by moving forces around it. It withstands over 9000 lbs of crush force in rollover testing, and does extremely well for its size. Survivability - even coming away with minimal injury - is excellent. And that's if the collision even happens; there are so many safety systems to prevent the crash that accidents don't even happen as often as they would in larger cars.
by randtzimmer October 18, 2009 8:40 PM PDT
"Wow, I had no clue..."
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!
by bigdog4199 October 20, 2009 7:13 AM PDT
So if we are going to make decisions based on video alone, let's look at some nasty over-100-mph, 14-car, wall-smacking, rolling, flipping, and burning crashes from NASCAR from the past couple of years. We will see the drivers get out and walk to the ambulances. Sometimes they even feel well enough to give someone the bird or throw a helmet or gloves at someone. Seeing a car get shredded does not necessarily mean that the occupants do as well. "Where is the crash dummy data?" is the question on everyone's mind here. And, since Daimler owns Smart, it is reasonable to assume that they decided to showcase how the half-pint faired against a beast from Mercedes. Most importantly, as you mentioned, is how the occupants faired. Again, reference NASCAR crashes. Seeing may be believing, but it is not everything.

If you want to establish some credibility instead of sounding like you are flaming (exactly what you accuse others of doing here), report on this article (http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4404.pdf), which actually gives some information instead of being a random video. And really, I do not see how the dummy set-up is so neat and even relevant to the arguement. The results are what matter.
by IIHS October 17, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
As several posters have pointed out, this is not a test conducted by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

Below is a link to the video from IIHS, which shows three crash tests designed to demonstrate the influence of size and weight in the outcome of crashes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmUBgTHppv8
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by mcheely October 20, 2009 5:55 AM PDT
Invalid or at least 3 year old test. The car you are testing is the 450 Model sold in Europe, the model sold here in the US is the 451, deffirent car!
Maybe you should get you facts strate before slamming a product.
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