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January 5, 2008 4:00 PM PST

Logitech's Squeezebox Duet: Sonos for the masses?

Logitech Squeezebox Duet

Logitech Squeezebox Duet: Music streaming meets superior ergonomics.

(Credit: Logitech)

Digital audio is great--especially if you've got a multigigabyte music collection sitting on your computer or you subscribe to an "all you can eat" music service like Rhapsody. The problem, for a lot of people, is that they're stuck listening to all that great music on the tinny speakers of their computer--or perhaps patching the laptop into their living room stereo system. Dedicated audio streamers have helped somewhat, but they have tiny little screens, which--like docked iPods--aren't very useful if you're sitting on a sofa across the room. And the best solution to date--the excellent Sonos Digital Music System--costs a prohibitive $1,000. Enter Logitech's new Squeezebox Duet: the $400 network digital audio streamer employs a winning handheld remote with a brilliant color screen (not unlike an iPod) that lets you navigate your entire music collection--including some online services and the majority of free Internet radio stations--from the palm of your hand, even while you hear the music from the big speakers of your home stereo.

The Duet is so named because it's a two-part system: a base station and the remote. The base station is a nondescript black brick that pulls audio from a networked PC or the Internet via your Wi-Fi or Ethernet home network, and outputs to your stereo from its analog or digital (coaxial or optical) jacks. But the real innovation is the remote: beyond the ten buttons controlling standard functions (volume, play/pause, track forward/reverse), it features an iPod-like scrollwheel and a brilliant 2.4-inch color LCD screen. That puts the song navigation where it belongs: in your hand, instead of a small LCD readout halfway across the room. (A charging cradle for the remote is also provided, so it can juice up while not in use.)

Aside from the much improved ergonomics and design, the Duet keeps much of the same under-the-hood technology found in earlier Squeezebox music streamers. That means it's compatible with nearly every non-DRM file format under the sun (including audiophile faves Apple Lossless, WMA Lossless, and FLAC) as well as free Internet radio stations and paid subscription online music services such as Rhapsody and Pandora. Logitech is also working to ensure that the Duet will also be backwards compatible with earlier Squeezebox models--meaning they can act as base stations in additional rooms (listening to the same music or other streams) and still interact with the Duet remote. Likewise, the latest Squeezebox will still adhere to the company's open-source roots: in addition to running a new and improved version of the open-source SlimServer music manager, the company expects to incorporate community-based improvements into the unit via its upgradable firmware.

Logitech provided a behind-closed-doors demo of the Squeezebox Duet to CNET a few weeks ago, and we liked what we saw. It's a solid upgrade of the Logitech Wireless DJ concept, turbocharged with the superior networking, software, and audio expertise found in earlier Squeezebox models. We'll reserve final judgment until we get a production model for review, but--as first impressions go--the Duet has all the makings of a winner. At the very least, it looks to be a strong alternative to the Sonos Digital Music System, delivering a similar experience--a network music player with a superior handheld remote--for hundreds less than the Sonos, which has long been the king of the hill in the still nascent product category.

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by davis.scott January 6, 2008 11:29 AM PST
While the Sonos may cost $1000 for a bundled package, this will give you a Remote, and Base Stations for 2 rooms. It looks like the Duet gives you only one room for $400. Double that for two rooms to make it more similar to the Sonos, and now you are up to $800. And the $1000 Sonos bundle comes with one powered base station, so that room would not need an additional amplifier/stereo system. Still seems like the Sonos might be a better deal overall....
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by mgason January 7, 2008 12:10 PM PST
they should bring out a duet with a simple stereo amp
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by MikeC January 9, 2008 7:55 AM PST
You can buy a good amp anywhere. Why tie it into a product? It is smarter to let people use their existing amp or get their own like Logitech is doing.
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by xingzxx123 January 9, 2008 4:22 PM PST
i like it...
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by Chris2395 January 9, 2008 4:31 PM PST
Doesn't look like it supports NAS which means the PC would have to be on to access music, what's that cost $20 to $30 a month? Sonos gives you NAS access as well as the amp in the 100. In the long run an overall better value it seems.
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by SuperEnchi January 10, 2008 12:28 AM PST
The Squeezebox Controller (the remote part) will work with any of their hardware.... right now.
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by rydertaylor January 10, 2008 7:05 AM PST
I'm a big Squeezebox fan, but the Neosonik Wireless Home Theater is cutting edge and should have been your winner in the audio category. Do we really need a another expensive remote in our lives?????
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by moretroops January 10, 2008 8:43 AM PST
The problem with streaming from your computer wirelessly is that you lose a ton of fidelity. So if you're goal is to play your digital music on big speakers with (presumably) better sound, that goal is not well served.

Get the Keyspan Tuneview. Great solution. You get the remote w/readout, but the ipod is actually connected to the stereo, sound isn't streamed.
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by zepoloo January 10, 2008 7:38 PM PST
Looks like additional receivers can be purchased separately for a suggested retail price of $149.99. So to construct the same Sonos package would be $550. Maybe just the thing to put a little pressure on Sonos' prices, which have not budged in a long time. Go competition!
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by fmcgillin January 11, 2008 8:49 AM PST
Lower price is a good feature, but seperate amp with this unit means you either need to monkey with two remotes (one for amp one for squeezebox) or leave your amp on all the time. I would still go for Sonos
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by hutmacher January 11, 2008 10:23 AM PST
I have the current squeezebox. It works great wired or wireless. You do not loss any fidelity. I have all my cd's ripped as flac format files and I am getting great digital sound on my system. Possibly the best ever. The only additional purchase I made was a $99 320g usb drive. The slimserver software is free and there is a version for pc, mac or linux. I am naking plans to buy the new duet as soon as I can.
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by Ron_F January 11, 2008 4:40 PM PST
I think if we are comparing Squeezebox hardware to Sonos hardware and the relative cost of each - the result is not likely to be very interesting or important. The real difference between the two is the software. In that comparison, Squeezebox probably beats everything. The server is open source, with a plethora of great plugins available. Supporting the development of this open source software is a large group of volunteers. I use a lot of those plugins and I cannot imagine my music server now without them.

On the other hand, it has been approximately a year since I last played with a Sonos system myself, so I should probably see what it is like today.

-Ron
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by danielnobrien January 11, 2008 7:15 PM PST
Anyone know how the remote communicates with the base station? RF? By the way, if you're looking to stream video to your AV system, as well as audio, check out an AppleTV. I've installed a few of these in peoples houses and everyone seems to really, really like them. $399 comes with a built-in 160 Gb hard disk that allows you to play audio and video without the computer on.
-Dan
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by jamie.p.walsh January 12, 2008 11:38 AM PST
How about if Sonos created a base station that did video, or a digital picture frame that could be controlled by the sonos remote, now THAT would be slick. If Sonos wants to break out, they HAVE TO get out from the audio only niche.
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by ScottoG51 January 12, 2008 7:04 PM PST
Did you notice that the specs for the new controller say "3-axis accelerometer tilt sensor"? It looks like it is designed to support motion / gestures. Has anyone heard anything about this?
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by w1ngzer0 January 13, 2008 4:16 PM PST
http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html

All the information someone could want on this product.

- The 3-axis accelerometer is motion / gesture activated =)
- The Squeezebox can be used with a NAS, but the exception to that is, Infrant is the only company supported. If you buy a random NAS, its unknown if it will work with Squeezebox. But, there is a section of the forums for just 3rd party hardware.

For video, i would try the slingbox.
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by bruceandrew January 19, 2008 7:45 PM PST
I really love my Squeezebox - brilliant way to manage my CD collection which has now been stored out of sight. Well done Logitech! Can someone tell me though what is the best FLAC quality level when ripping CD to FLAC? I use FreeRip Pro which defaults to quality "5".
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by jborge2 January 22, 2008 4:00 AM PST
Competition is good, as there was no second to the Sonus system. If Sonus lowers its price it will still have an edge,as it has an amp. I may for example have a system in the kitchen with an amp hidden away, and another in my living room connected to my stereo (ampless). This is where Sonus has an edge.

Roku needs to now step up to the bat. Their system offers the best price performance, but I sure would like the nice display.


Also logitech could license the the technology as an OEM module. Companies like Harmon Kardon, Onkyo, Yamaha can over offer systems that are "slimbox ready". Then you just buy the remote from logitech.


Overall it would be nice if Logitech came with an AMP version, or addon. Sonus could be in trouble if they don't adjust to the challenge.
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by lscovell February 7, 2008 12:36 AM PST
This is perfect for me. I have an amp for cinema / gaming / TV so I don't won't another - a good enough amp is pretty cheap anyway. For the main room of the house - I choose a best-of-breed system, rather than a one-trick-wonder. An average amp will have a lot more expandability than the all-in-one systems.

The controller idea is excellent - very iPod like, and as far as sound quality is concerned, even with an out of date MP101, its been great (as long as the amp is set up properly, speakers are good and positioned well).

If you're a purist, you shouldn't be reading this article...
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by rdc2000 February 7, 2008 6:35 PM PST
The same "duet" is available from Sonos for $650. (remote plus one zone player- no amplifier) If all other things are anywhere close to equal between the two systems, Sonos will have to either reduce the price greatly or come up with a lower priced alternative to have a chance to compete. Otherwise, they will be "Squeezed" out...

fyi, I own a Sonos and really like it. But I skipped the remote because it was so expensive and I could use my laptop to control playback. If this new Squeezebox was available when I was shopping 3 months ago, it would have been no contest.
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