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Indecent Exposure Podcast 63: Intentional exhaustion

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A sporting look at your sports photos and what the heck is a rangefinder, anyway?

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EPISODE 63

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Last topic: None
Next topic: Geometry. Deadline: Thursday, September 24, 12 p.m. ET
Note: To minimize confusion, we're now providing entry deadlines. They'll usually be Thursdays at noon Eastern time. You can still post links after that, which may still get included, but to ensure they get entered, that's the time you should target. To enter, please use the blog comments to provide a link to your entry, plus any background information you'd like to share with us and other listeners.


Honorable mention: Foul

Today's questions
What's a rangefinder?

Hello guys,
I'm back and I wanted to let you know that I've listened to every show in the weeks that I didn't submit any images.
A friend asked me what is a rangefinder and I couldn't truly give him a definite answer and I want to ask you: what is a rangefinder? From what I've understood rangefinders don't have a mirror so what's the difference between a digital rangefinder and [Micro] 4/3 camera? What's so special about a rangefinder and why do they cost that much?
Allex



Senior Editor Lori Grunin has been covering digital imaging for two decades, but her memory's kind of sketchy on the details. You can hear about it every week on Indecent Exposure, the podcast she co-hosts with Matt Fitzgerald.
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by September 21, 2009 11:24 PM PDT
Took me a while to figure out how and where to post, and these images are being added after the Podcast that contains the discussion of the sports images, but here they are anyway:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmr638b/3942921071/in/pool-indecentexposure My first choice, already a winner on ModelMayhem

Others, including a volleyball one that was taken 30 hours after the contest closed:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmr638b/3943697910/in/pool-indecentexposure/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmr638b/3942920945/in/pool-indecentexposure/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmr638b/3942921253/in/pool-indecentexposure/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmr638b/3942822159/in/pool-indecentexposure/

Thanks. Comments welcome

Mike
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by niemczyks September 27, 2009 2:15 PM PDT
You've tagged your photos as private so only you can see them.
by genebrowder September 22, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
This is my entry for the contest:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37791728@N07/3944403211/

Which was derived from this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37791728@N07/3944381885/


Highgloss
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by super6s September 22, 2009 10:16 AM PDT
Very cool... architectural, even. I love when a photo goes abstract. Thanks for including the original.

markitect
by KeithMac2007 September 22, 2009 4:33 PM PDT
I like the way the pattern curves.
by bquad September 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Lori & Matt,

Here is my submission for the photo contest this week on geometric shapes. The picture is of the top part of an extension to the Milwaukee Art Museum (MAM), which was designed to have a nautical look over looking the western shore of Lake Michigan. I call it "Sail Away!"

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_lattVGVPOaQOqf7lAKeKQ?feat=directlink

More information on the MAM architecture can be found at: http://www.mam.org/info/architecture.php

Regards,
B Quad
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by lee_adc September 22, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Really cool shot. Looks like a mirror image...but I don't think it is. Lee.
by super6s September 23, 2009 7:47 AM PDT
Bravo for bringing Santiago Calatrava's Milwaukee Art Museum to the table. AWESOME! I want to go there like nobody's business.

This is not a mirror image, it is a mirrored design. The coolest part is that the "wings" actually move (open & close) and provide different lighting inside. This photo has them in the open position.

It is worth doing a search for Calatrava's designs - very cool stuff... for an engineer! (technically he is not an architect)

Here is a link to other images of this museum:
http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/milwaukeeart/index.htm

Markitect
by jcdberkeley September 23, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
This is a phenomenally composed shot! Nice title, too, haha...
Can't believe I'd missed this Calatrava work before, thanks for showing it off to us.
by lee_adc September 22, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
Here's my submission for this weeks contest.

www.flickr.com/photos/leeadc/2478396747

Lee.
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by KeithMac2007 September 22, 2009 4:35 PM PDT
I like the blank sky it shows off the strong lines of the bridge.
by kmcrober September 22, 2009 3:43 PM PDT
Hello all - my entry this week is the Calder sculpture in downtown Chicago:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcroberts/3904334764/sizes/l/in/set-72157622195966041/
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by KeithMac2007 September 22, 2009 4:31 PM PDT
Hello Everybody,

I went and pulled one from the past. A lack of time this week, work exploded all over me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmacke/3285380195

This is an interior wall at the Cranbrook Science Institute and it's huge.

Keith
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by jdmedina September 22, 2009 8:06 PM PDT
Hey Lori and Matt:

Here's my entry for this week's Geometry

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bloodless/3945975833/

In case you're wondering it's a wasp hive that I found inside a lamp that had this glass that reflects and gives this nice effect.

Don't worry, I didn't get stung
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by super6s September 23, 2009 7:52 AM PDT
First non architectural submission. These things creep me out. The reflection makes the photo.

Markitect
by mad_marv September 23, 2009 2:05 AM PDT
Here's my entry for Geometry. It's the interior of the Atlanta Marriott Marquis hotel.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/madmarv/3899616592/

P.S. I haven't listened to this week's eppy yet but I'm assuming "geometry" is open to our interpretation. I.e. you said "geometry" not "geometric shapes" so if my pic doesn't fit any conventional description but still has that something that catches my eye.
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by bob.mcclenahan September 23, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
My submission:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobmcclenahan/3946480812/
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by jcdberkeley September 23, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
For someone who takes as few photos of people as I do (all I shoot is geometry/architecture and nature, basically!), this contest was oddly difficult for me. I had trouble finding a photo that really said 'geometry' to me, rather than 'crop of a skyscraper' [http://tinyurl.com/nh3x6e], or 'fair ride' [http://tinyurl.com/ks986o], or 'building facade' [http://tinyurl.com/koy5kp], or 'concert' [http://tinyurl.com/lr4x56], no matter how many geometric elements those photos contained.

I finally settled upon a pretty simple (and hopefully not too dull!) image with very basic shapes and a ton of negative space:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesey/BayAreaPhotos#5384692907955488274

The image just prior to it in the album is the same basic shot, with a rather different perspective.
No matter how abstract an image I could crop from my many (many) shots of building facades, I couldn't manage to compose any shot that said 'geometry' rather than 'architecture', so I finally gave up trying to emulate the more successful entries this week by others who tried similar approaches. I toyed with using shadows that created lines and shapes across the ground, but the images I worked with all looked too flat and lifeless - bad composition on my part, oops. This image was the purest one I had where ornamentation was more or less stripped from the image, leaving shapes and lines behind, while still being an interesting-to-look-at photo. At the time, I felt irked that I didn't have a good flash to fill in the ornamentation on the ceiling that, as shown here, came out totally black, but for this assignment the black helps frame the shapes and doesn't detract from the simple forms; the heavily ornamented ceiling definitely would have greatly deemphasized the geometry and would instead have highlighted the stonework.
Given that we just had an 'architecture' contest not too long ago, I really had to fight my impulse to go with another photo that was primarily architectural rather than geometric, but hopefully this photo qualifies, simple though it is.

- I missed the 'editing' assignment, so I figured I would elaborate a little extra on this one to make up for it! :)
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by jcdberkeley September 25, 2009 6:20 AM PDT
I had a question, in case you haven't yet recorded the podcast. I was looking again at this photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesey/BayAreaPhotos#5384692907955488274
and noticed a lot of purple fringing in the upper half of the skylight. I don't *usually* notice this problem with my camera, but it appears very distinct in this particular photo given the post-processing I did to the (originally) underexposed image.

I could scour forums and specialty websites to find an answer to this, but I figured you might be a more direct route: Is there a way to remove fringing like this from photos in post-processing/Photoshop? This isn't often a big problem, but I have definitely noticed it before, and didn't know if there was any relatively simple fix beyond the stereotypical-gear-snob's reply of, 'Get a better camera.'

-james
by super6s September 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
Here is my geometry shot:

Spiral bridge:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p58/super6s/cnet/spiralbridge.jpg

I usually don't experiment with much modification, but I thought I would try this time (since it is more about shape). I have PS-CS3, used the black & white tool, fiddled with the conversion of each color, allowed the sepia tone, went into shadow/highlight (love this tool) & played around.

Here is the original:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p58/super6s/cnet/IMG_3050small.jpg

and another color option that I decided not to use:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p58/super6s/cnet/IMG_3050TU-small.jpg

This is not what I wanted to submit. I wanted to buck the system & go with a geomerty shot from nature... a dew covered spider web. Turns out that is harder to find than you might think. There is always one between the stop sign and a bush at the entrance to my neighborhood. I guess he is hunting elsewhere this week.

Markitect
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by graceraven September 27, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
I like the original photo best.
by graceraven September 23, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
Geometric entry, not architecture though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30978872@N03/3948272677/

Thanks again for all,
grace
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by chaseparker September 23, 2009 6:14 PM PDT
This is my first time submitting a photo for the contest as I always seem to be too late or too forgetful. Finally though, here is my submission for the geometry contest:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaseparker/3946132531/in/set-72157622442564046
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by kmcrober September 23, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
I love this one - the bar of light balances the length of the tunnel very nicely.
by DetroitBORG September 23, 2009 7:17 PM PDT
Here is my submission. I took this through my front door with a 10 second exposure.

http://www.mikekukielka.com/gallery/v/Photo+Contest+Entry/Geometry.jpg.html

Thanks for looking, feedback is very welcome!

-Michael Kukielka
Rochester Hills, MI
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by dgroszek September 27, 2009 4:15 AM PDT
Hi

I Enjoyed the colors of this shot, they seem to stick with me. Did you adjust them? Seems it was taken near evening, does the door face north? Good luck with this entry!
by anthonycaglio September 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT
This is my submission and was taken on a bridge crossing the Colorado River at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. When I look at this photo, I personally like the way the intersecting lines direct my eyes across the scenery. My friends hiking ahead are where the "vanishing point" is.


http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lPI-ig2cMekAGRMmNi5k1w?feat=directlink

Anthony Caglio
Phoenix, AZ
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by randomsvx September 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT
I was worried whether or not this would work but I guess it's okay. Probably not that great and should have cropped it but I think it can stand on it's own. Tell me what you'll think?

http://randomsvx.deviantart.com/art/How-Shading-Adds-Dimension-138044371
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by twenty_two September 24, 2009 12:05 AM PDT
Here is my geometry submission:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11061372@N07/3949530298/in/photostream/

Although I was also considering this photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11061372@N07/3948750369/

Try to view them as large as possible. For some reason, I can't get the stated resolution to show up on my computer.

-ChewDawg
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by Jimster07 September 24, 2009 1:40 AM PDT
Here's my geometry submission:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimster007/3949462739/

Also considered this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimster007/3949462581/in/photostream/

Been listening for a while, but this is my first entry.

Jim
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by scottmacs September 24, 2009 5:01 PM PDT
Here's my entry:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8209272@N07/3952063726/sizes/o/in/set-72157622324374887/
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by DetroitBORG September 24, 2009 9:10 PM PDT
Here are some additional geometry submissions.

Again, this is shot through my front door.
http://www.mikekukielka.com/gallery/v/Photo+Contest+Entry/Door+Geometry.JPG.html

And this is a LED night light which has an interesting diffuser geometry.

http://www.mikekukielka.com/gallery/v/Photo+Contest+Entry/Geometry+of+Light.JPG.html
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