• On MovieTome: Top Ten: Most Bizarre Twilight Merch
February 13, 2009 12:07 PM PST

Can Panasonic save plasma?

by David Carnoy
  • Font size
  • Print
  • 121 comments

'Save me Panasonic, you're my only hope.'

(Credit: Panasonic)

With Pioneer and Vizio recently announcing their exits from the plasma market, there's been a lot of chatter about the technology's short and long-term viability. Some of plasma's problems are PR related. Lingering questions--justified or not--about burn-in and energy efficiency have become part of the public conscious and remain a stumbling block at point of sale. Ultimately, however, there are more simple economics at play. Far more factories are available to produce LCD displays than plasmas, which haven't been able to maintain their price advantage as margins have eroded and the performance gap between the technologies has narrowed.

But let's not dwell on how we got here. The key question is how can plasma survive? And for better or worse, the answer is really in the hands of Panasonic, the brand that has most closely linked its TV fortunes to the technology. Yes, Samsung and LG make lots of plasmas--and some good ones, too--but both are also well-committed LCD and well hedged should plasma go away (Panasonic makes some LCD TVs as well, but nothing larger than 37 inches, while plasma starts at 42). Alas, with Pioneer's departure--a sad day for those who value great TV picture quality--Panasonic is left to carry the plasma mantle largely on its own.

Can it keep plasma from perishing? Well, I hope it can, because the TV space is already commoditized enough and it would be shame if we went down to one flat-panel technology (sure, OLED is being hyped as the display technology of the future, but it's years away from mass-market adoption). However, Panasonic's got to take make some key moves to keep plasma from running out of gas. Here they are:

1. Beat prices for LCD TVs in key size classes.

Right now, the most important sizes in plasma are 42, 46, and 50 inches, and it's imperative that Panasonic maintain a price advantage in those sizes. The problem is, according to an industry source, that if all things are equal in terms of size and price, consumers are choosing LCD over plasma by an overwhelming margin.

In a few weeks, Panasonic will start releasing its 2009 TV line. Here are some sets to watch out for:

Entry-level 720p 42-inch TC-P42X1: The list price on the 2008 version of this model is $999.99, but it's selling for as low as $750 right now. Panasonic needs to have the street price for this TV hit $699.99.

Entry-level 720p 50-inch TC-P50X1: By the same logic, this TV needs to have a street price of less than $1,000.

Entry-level 1080p 50-inch TC-P50S1: This model needs to street for less than $1,500--or preferably, closer to $1,400, to compete with 46- and 52-inch 1080p LCDs.

2. Make larger plasmas with enticing price tags.

Later this year, Panasonic will bring out the 54-inch TCP54S1 to counter the new 55-inch LCD TVs that are heading into the market. Right now, the 55-inch VF550XVT Vizio LCD TV, which lists for $1,999.99 is selling for $1,700 in Costco. Later this year, Vizio will release the VF551XVT with an LED backlight for $1,999. That's serious big-screen price pressure.

The 58-inch TH-58PZ800U earned an Editors' Choice last year.

(Credit: Panasonic)

It's a tall order for Panasonic to bring out a 54-incher at that price, but it has to come close--and its picture quality has to be better than the Vizio's. Not to knock Vizio (we'll be getting a review sample of the VF550XVT soon), but Panasonic will have an easier time achieving a picture quality advantage than a price advantage.

While it's less crucial, it would good if the price for Panasonic's 58-inch TH-58PZ800U model dropped to $2,000 (it's now $2,449.99 at Newegg; new 58-inch Panasonics aren't due until August). Beyond the 54-inch set, it needs something bigger to counter the impact of more 55-inch LCDs coming into the market. In this economy, however, most of the action is in the 42-to-55-inch range.

3. Launch a marketing campaign that touts plasma's advantages over LCD and negates its disadvantages.

Panasonic's new line of more energy-efficient NEO PDP panels will go a long way toward leveling the playing field with LCD in terms of energy burn rates. But Panasonic also must put the burn-in issue to rest, putting its money where its mouth is with a lifetime guarantee against burn-in. It needs to do something bold there while touting plasma's strengths. Yes, LCD performance continues to improve, but entry-level plasmas still tend to outperform their LCD counterparts and offer better off-axis viewing (if you sit off to the side, the picture doesn't degrade as it does with many LCD models).

4. Avoid putting too much weight or promotional effort behind the upcoming superthin plasmas.

Sadly, companies actually think that people really care if you make a superthin TV. It's great for a quick shot of publicity to say you have a 1-inch thick TV (the new Z1 plasma did well for Panasonic at CES), but most people aren't willing to pay a big premium to shave a few inches off the thickness of their TVs.

Fact: Most folks don't mount their TVs on a wall and are more interested in the width of the stand. In other words, the average flat-panel TV is thin enough for most consumers, who care most about the size of the TV and its price--not how deep it is.

The waiting game

What are the odds Panasonic really executes on all things I've talked about? Well, the company has to deal with some factors that are out of its control, like producing panels in Japan instead of China and dealing with currency issues involving the yen and dollar. It probably also doesn't hurt that Panasonic will get a small boost from Pioneer's departure. After all, it was a competitor; over the years plenty of CNET readers have vacillated between buying a Pioneer or Panasonic plasma. But by the same token, Pioneer and Vizio's move away from plasma has generated a lot of negative publicity for the technology and made tech columnists write headlines like, "Can Panasonic save plasma?"

All things considered, I'm giving plasma 50-50 odds at avoiding niche status. I hope it makes it. I really do. But sometimes the best technology doesn't win. Just look at HD DVD.

Anybody disagree? As always, feel free to get your 2 cents in.

Hunkered down in New York City, Executive Editor David Carnoy covers the gamut of gadgets and writes his Fully Equipped column, which carries the tag line "The electronics you lust for." He's also the author of "Knife Music," a novel. E-mail David. Follow David on Twitter.
Recent posts from Fully Equipped
Top 15 Black Friday tech deals
Top 40 must-have Blu-ray Discs
Does the new Kindle have better contrast?
LED TVs: 10 things you need to know
15 worthy Blu-ray movies for less than $15
Is this your Kindle?
Will PSP Go keep pirates at bay?
Keyboard for Apple tablet already here?
Add a Comment (Log in or register) Showing 1 of 4 pages (121 Comments)
by joshdeboer February 13, 2009 8:54 PM PST
I have a Panasonic 700 and two LCD panels. I prefer PDP over LCD. Why? Most LCD's on the market still don't produce the black levels the latest Panasonic's and Pioneers. The off-angle viewing is horrible and many LCD panels still struggle with motion issues, banding and or screen uniformity. Sadly, like audio, people settle or gravitate to mediocrity. Long live plasma.
Reply to this comment
by RRosal February 13, 2009 9:07 PM PST
"Do you have them new mid-def TV's?!?"
by kennypc March 21, 2009 10:14 PM PDT
I agree with you totally
by LoneWolf56 February 13, 2009 9:10 PM PST
I was shopping for LCD TV but a very knowledegable salesperson changed my mind. He showed me an LCD, displaying 60/120 Hz on a split-screen. next to that was a plasma (same one I bought) showing the same display. I was impressed by the clarity and natural picture on the plasma, as opposed to the pictuer split-screen demonstration of the "advanced" 120 Hz technology. I have since learned that most of the people who work in the various stores that offer advanced TV technology prefer and own plasma. They admit to waiting for the next "new thing" but, for now, plasma is the best choice for them and me. I hope Panasonic can SAVE PLASMA!
Reply to this comment
by mghotbi February 15, 2009 10:05 AM PST
I have had the same experience (salespeople who own PDP's) when shopping for TV's. A few years back I was ready to plop down a huge wad of cash for a Samsung LNT5281 LED - backlit LCD until I compared the picture with the Pioneer Kuro 5010 in a dark room side by side. It was really no contest. I am sorry to see Pioneer exit the market, but I hope that Panasonic will make some high-end Plasmas that will emulate Pioneer picture quality.
by kano1 February 13, 2009 9:44 PM PST
10 out 10 consumer will always gravitate to an LCD on the sales floor because of the brightness...introspectively one?s own sense is experienced as an absolute and an irreducible primary ? as that which one never questions or overlooks, because the thought of questioning it never arises...is plasma a better picture?
Reply to this comment
by pt6998 February 13, 2009 10:43 PM PST
I currently have worked in a big chain electronics store selling TVs for three years. I have to admit, Cnet hit this one right on. Panasonic has to become more competitive if they want plasma TVs to last the next couple of years. In this current economy, shoppers are going for price first and then what stands out on the floor. When I great a customer, who clearly looks clueless, I ask them if they have seen anything that they like. They usually point to some cheap off brand LCD. I then ask them what they like to watch. The customer usually says normal TV and movies. I then tell them that there are two different technologies in flat screens. One, plasma, does a good job of accurate colors, fast screen refresh rate, and very good black and shadow accuracy.

I explain the positives and negatives of both technologies just so the customer gets to decide, but it is an ever-increasing fact that almost every customer says no to plasma because they heard the TVs do not last long or ?my brother had one and it still has ESPN burned in to the screen.? I currently own the 50PX75U; I mainly bought the TV from the tons of glowing reviews on it and ratings I read on this very site. I absolutely love this TV. Anybody that knows flat screen TVs knows that plasma has the best picture, but every day I feel that the technology is doomed because of customer word of mouth and all the negative rumors floating about. Panasonic needs to think of a great add campaign to really change the negative tone around? If not, we might be stuck with an all LCD market.
Reply to this comment
by iceman721 February 14, 2009 12:12 AM PST
I am so tired of the worst technology winning in the race for consumer dollars. Plasma's got a bad name because of the early sets that could (and did) get burn in and the ones that had short half lives that faded prematurely. The technology grew by leaps and bounds in a very short period of time eventually erasing any realistic concerns about the negatives some people choose to tout about the technology. I should know I own a modern day plasma and it is WONDERFUL.

I purchased a 50 inch Samsung series 6 plasma (w/ red Touch of Color frame) from Circuit City last year. It was 1650.00 marked down from its 2500.00 debut price. When I purchased it Best Buy was still selling it for 2200.00. It displays blu-ray & HD DVD movies in 24fps as they are designed to be shown. It has an 18 bit color processing panel which allows it to display more of the different gradients and shading of colors than just about any other flat panels on the market with the exception of the Pioneers and a few of the high end Panasonic's. There is no need for the 120hz gimmick that LCD's are using to compensate for the blur of fast moving scenes. I have no regrets at all with my purchase.

I must finish this up by addressing some of the negative myths about plasma that some people still have. I am not worried about the life of my television. It is my primary set that I watch 80-90% of movies, televison & game with my XBOX 360. It has a 100,000 hour half life and that is with the brightness and cell lights turned all the way up. My cell lights are set at 7 with the brightness adjusted to just under half of what the set it capable of doing. The picture with my room light is great and based on my settings I am using energy comparable to an LCD of comparable size and am extending the useful life of the set. As far as burn in goes it is NOT an issue. I have fell asleep on movies and had had the display menu showing for a few hours until I woke up, not even a temporary image was retained. It automatically shifts the pixels back and forth to prevent burn in. Unless you just leave the televison on pause and go out for 10 or 12 hours (which no sane person would do) its not going to even have temporary image retention. As far as energy usage all you have to do is adjust the set properly and it is just as efficient as an LCD. My set has an energy saving mode which is set to medium and it also is set to half it brightness based on the light for my room. With it set that way it uses about 40% less energy that what it is rated on the box for.

In summation too many people think a good picture is a bright picture which is why I think LCD's sell more. I also think they are pushed on a lot of people by sales people. Plasma is the better technology and it will be sad if it doesn't survive. I would have to pay considerably more to find a LCD set with all the features that my set has. There is no need to do that just buy a plasma and take that extra cash and buy a surround sound system like I did. Get a Plasma!!!
Reply to this comment
by make_or_break February 17, 2009 12:42 AM PST
Personally, by your own criteria If the 'best' should be the winner, then I think DLP should've come out tops in the sales race when it comes to boxed sets. Their picture quality is better by far, and for the screen size they offer a significantly better value than either LCD or plasma. Except few want their inherent girth and depth. Unfortunately for DLP, flat panels are just *so* sexy...

Plasmas may have improved from what they once were, but all it takes is one bad experience to condemn the technology forever. We specificed a number of plasma panels for use in a commercial installation for advertising purposes--we didn't know anything about burn-in at that time. The sets would be on a lot--at least 16/7 if not 24/7 on some occasions. There was to be a LOT of repetitive information displayed. Within a year the client had replaced ALL of the Pioneer units with Samsung LCDs because of either complete failures, the picture quality going bad and of course burn-in. After mediation we learned our lesson...recommend LCD or let someone else choose the displays. An expensive mistake that no one with the firm who lived through this--one did not, since he was canned over the incident for not researching it better; after all "everyone" wanted 'plasma TVs' back then--would ever want to make again.
by voksbug February 14, 2009 8:37 AM PST
I have owned a Panasonic TH 50 PX50U 50" Plasma TV for more than four years (purchased in 2004) and I am absolutely satisfied. No burn in and the picture is fantastic. It is far and away better than the LCD I purchased just a year ago. History has shown that the better technology does not always win...Betamax...HD-DVD (merely because it was a complete product at laungh vs. several upates that Blu-Ray is going through.) Lets face it, most consumers base their purchasing practices on the opinion of an 18 year old at the big box stores and not objective reviews provided by sources like CNET, Consumer Reports etc..
Reply to this comment
by polis12 February 14, 2009 11:13 AM PST
Blu-ray is and has always been far superior to HD-DVD technology-wise. Regardless of the format war, Blu-ray offered more storage capacity along with more tools to expand capacities for future discs. I recently heard one of the companies which manufactures Blu-ray discs (forget the name at the moment) created an experimental 400 GB storage Blu-ray disc. If this comes too market soon do you realize how huge that would be?
by jeffpoker February 14, 2009 9:06 AM PST
For me, the most important is #3
3. Launch a marketing campaign that touts plasma's advantages over LCD and negates its disadvantages.

So many people come to me asking for my advice and whenever I tell them I prefer Plasma over LCD, they all keep saying:"But what about the burn-in problem?".
Panasonic needs to launch a campaign to emphasize on the benefits of plasma and to shut all the negativity about the burn-in problem. Instruct people that blacks (contrast) is what makes a good picture and that plasmas have better blacks than LCD.
Reply to this comment
by pcfish February 14, 2009 12:30 PM PST
Agree, they need to take consumer education seriously. A large percentage of people is still clueless about technology in general. They need to tell the public that plasma is a thousand times better than LCD (if you are steve jobs, you can make people believe that's true).
by 50y/o February 14, 2009 11:11 AM PST
Firstly..i'm more impressed with the Plasmas. Would most definitely purchase before LCD. All consumers should really research..both technologies..before deciding on which to spend hard earned monies. But times a-wasting. Get one while you can.

Lastly..my feeling on both Plasma and LCD...would purchase Plasma before LCD..BUT!..my frustration and sadness is due to the soon-to-be-demise of DLP with LED backlighting. All the news(including from Cnet)surrounding these outstanding tv's say that by 2010 they will no longer be manufactured. What a shame. Big Screen at very affordable cost. I can't bear the thought that my only choice of technology in the near future would be LCD!!!
Gonna purchase at least three more DLP/LED's and warehouse em...maybe by their end of life, OLEDs will be available and affordable?
Reply to this comment
by ikramerica--2008 February 14, 2009 12:10 PM PST
Ultimately OLED will make this all moot, but the manufacturers are being smart and not releasing early products that have lifetime issues like they did with Plasma.

As for Plasma burn in, few people now that LCDs also get burn in. The technology involves exciting the crystal in the cell, and if held in one state for too long, that cell gets permanently excited, at least in relation to the cells around it. And of course, LCDs lose their brightness too. Fluorescents burn out just like plasma. And LCDs experience uneven burnout in the form of banding, which is far more distracting than the overall fading of a plasma.

I'm quite happy with my 32" LCD (2 years old) and my 42" plasma (4 years old). I am not pleased with my 52" LCD, despite it being the same brand and model series as the 32", which is why I bought it. Big LCDs just stink. I should have bought a panasonic 50" plasma instead...
Reply to this comment
by February 16, 2009 9:33 AM PST
You brought up an important flaw with the LCD Burn-In; but actually it is not "Burn-In" as with phosphor. It is referred to as "Sticking". The only advantage over this image degrading fact is if you turn off your LCD panel for several weeks the cells will return to their original state... But who wants to mothball an expensive appliance while waiting for LCD cells? Plasma displays should last the expected lifetime without burn-in if they are respected and not over stressed with extreme graphics.
by techzar February 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST
Off axis viewing is a huge deal, unless you always watch tv alone. I find it disturbing that some of the latest reviewed LCD sets are actually getting worse with regard to off axis performance. Power consumption is way over hyped. Take a close look at the cost in $$ that the different technologies offer, and make sure you are not comparing a 32" LCD with a 50" plasma.
Reply to this comment
by BlackPenguin February 14, 2009 2:51 PM PST
I missed the chance to get a 34" Sony HD picture tube (the xbr model) .. they stopped making it, the year I was going to buy .. WHOOPS! I will not be left floating this time around. I will be buying either the 42" Panasonic 1080p plasma model TH-42PZ8OU or .. i am going to wait for the 2009 model, can't decide which i want to do.. In the end I will probably get the 2008 model. Although that I will have to do in the next couple of weeks if I am going to get one. But I HATE lcd I am very sensitive to motion blur. If the only tv on the market was an LCD i would literally quite watching tv on a regular basis. I would just buy some small 19" put up an antenna and use it for emergency notices. Weather alerts and such.. .. And that is if I even went that far. I may just give up altogether. Just in case there is/was any confusion: I hate LCD!
Reply to this comment
by slechtewolf February 14, 2009 3:03 PM PST
The 42" Panny plasma in my bedroom purchased 18 months ago has had image retention issues since the day I unboxed it, and I was painstakingly careful with it too (this was after calibration and the 100 hour burn in period!). I've learned to live with it, running full screen as often as possible and avoiding letterbox, but it's a bedroom TV so I'm not as annoyed about it as I ordinarily would be (okay, so I'm more annoyed than I'm letting on, but I don't watch it that much, so to be more succinct, I'm not annoyed as often). On the other hand, the Kuro has never exhibited a trace of IR, though I've taken to running the orbiter once a month for good measure. When it's time to buy again (and I hope that's not for years) I'm going to miss those delicious inky blacks.
Reply to this comment
by blusky08 February 15, 2009 12:36 PM PST
People do not want a TV they must be "painstakingly careful with". People watch letterboxed movies, they fall asleep, leave the TV on all day, have kids, etc. Burn-in is always a possibility (see Dave's article from last year: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6844370-1.html?tag=ms). Plasma afficiandos and salespeople like to downplay it, but it happens all the time.

If it wasn't a problem, plasma manufacturers would offer a lifetime warranty against it. They can't because customers would stop being "painstakingly careful", and they they'd be out of business.

Newflash: Pioneer likely saw the writing on the wall. Panasonic probably will too. Plasma can't withstand LED, OLED, FED (yes, sony has announced FED for this year) and Laser. Plasma had its day just as the CCFL LCD had its day. Both will soon be a memory.
by ditt1605 February 16, 2009 11:44 AM PST
I have the 42" PZ85U plasma and have had no image retention problems. I just got it last November and use it regularly for movies and TV. I would say the longest it's been on with letterboxing would be about 6hrs. I would say that you don't have to be "painstakingly careful" with the TV, but if you're somewhat aware it can happen it won't be an issue. basically, I didn't change my veiwing habits because of the retention issue.
by MatrixSV February 14, 2009 3:07 PM PST
I agree everything you said in the article except for the last line. Blu-Ray has better features than HD-DVD. The best thing Panasonic can do is have the lifetime warranty against burn in. And maybe buy the Pioneer Kuro technology.
Reply to this comment
by only_truth February 14, 2009 3:42 PM PST
Exactly. I'd say go back to VHS to look at a winning technology that wasn't the best. If I was in the market for a large TV, plasmas have much better contrast ratios that LCDs just can't match.
by ali_topan February 14, 2009 4:16 PM PST
For me it's rare that you can make a major purchase and later have at least some regrets. But so far after buying the Panasonic 50 inch TH800PY I am 100% satisfied. I couldn't imagine the picture quality being better, especially when watching blu-rays. My Dad owns an entry level Samsung LCD (OK maybe this is not exactly a fair coomparison), but the difference in quality is just night and day. Definitely plasma is the better technology.
Reply to this comment
by Throttlebody1 February 14, 2009 4:32 PM PST
Save plasma. When I hear the kids working at Wal-Mart and Best Buy say the LCD picture is better I gasp. But, I hold my tongue. They don?t say plasma uses more juice. That it has burn in problems. They say it has a better picture. They say it?s better and cheaper.
I agree: Make the Panasonic Picture better. My inexpensive 50pz85uA is good TV but a little narrow in the adjustments you can make and narrow in the sweet spot. All I can use is Cinema. Standard is just about impossible to adjust.
Taut plasma?s better native ratio. People understand something gizzmoe?d up will not be as good as native. Pany?s in-home warrant service is great too. Make it longer! Sell plasma?s native ratio, sell Panasonic?s customer and warranty service.
Are you reading this Panasonic? Sell me my next plasma TV.
Reply to this comment
by Throttlebody1 February 14, 2009 4:34 PM PST
Save plasma. When I hear the kids working at Wal-Mart and Best Buy say the LCD picture is better I gasp. But, I hold my tongue. They don?t say plasma uses more juice. That it has burn in problems. They say it has a better picture. They say it?s better and cheaper.
I agree: Make the Panasonic Picture better. My inexpensive 50pz85uA is good TV but a little narrow in the adjustments you can make and narrow in the sweet spot. All I can use is Cinema. Standard is just about impossible to adjust.
Taut plasma?s better native ratio. People understand something gizzmoe?d up will not be as good as native. Pany?s in-home warrant service is great too. Make it longer! Sell plasma?s native ratio, sell Panasonic?s customer and warranty service.
Are you reading this Panasonic? Sell me my next plasma TV.
Reply to this comment
by Throttlebody1 February 14, 2009 4:36 PM PST
Save plasma. When I hear the kids working at Wal-Mart and Best Buy say the LCD picture is better I gasp. But, I hold my tongue. They don?t say plasma uses more juice. That it has burn in problems. They say it has a better picture. They say it?s better and cheaper.
I agree: Make the Panasonic Picture better. My inexpensive 50pz85uA is good TV but a little narrow in the adjustments you can make and narrow in the sweet spot. All I can use is Cinema. Standard is just about impossible to adjust.
Taut plasma?s better native ratio. People understand something gizzmoe?d up will not be as good as native. Pany?s in-home warrant service is great too. Make it longer! Sell plasma?s native ratio, sell Panasonic?s customer and warranty service.
Are you reading this Panasonic? Sell me my next plasma TV.
Reply to this comment
by rastafria February 14, 2009 5:58 PM PST
Agree with the sentiment that Plasma is better. After much research, the only, and I mean ONLY major factor that should come into play is light. If you have a lot of bright, uncontrollable light (as in multiple windows that would directly reflect), LCD might be better.

A very small factor that could come into play is weight. This should only matter in the very rare situations where you need to wall mount the TV but the wall would be too weak for a Plasma... But then, it would still be a bit risky using an LCD. Weight is no problem other than that. My 42" panny is far lighter than my last 29" CRT.
Reply to this comment
by forkboy February 14, 2009 6:17 PM PST
There is no winning in this situation. For the last two years I have longed to purchase a large-screen television: at least 46 inches. I have strongly gravitated towards plasma all this time and to the Panasonic line in particular. Even now, as LCDs (especially the Samsung 650 model line-great compromise of price and performance) have seemingly improved by leaps and bounds, I still prefer the better blacks and unlimited viewing angle found on plasmas.

It looked like my prayers were to be answered last month when the wife finally seemed comfortable with the pricing for a 50" Panasonic plasma, but while looking over the wares at my local big box retailer she suddenly had an opinion about the new television; something she had never expressed before. She wanted an LCD.

She thinks the picture looks nicer.

What the hell am I to do?
Reply to this comment
by M5er February 14, 2009 7:00 PM PST
Go for the Plasma. Look, Plasma owners will recommend Plasmas, LCD owners will recommend LCDs, but I've spent a LOT of time comparing technologies (Both buying TVs for myself, and recently one for my parents), and LCDs just CANNOT replicate the organic picture of a Plasma.

The LCDs always look "prettier", because the colors are more vibrant, and they just have a "brighter" look. But if you actually look at the PICTURE, Plasmas win, hands down.
by Guchdog February 17, 2009 10:17 PM PST
You said you guys were looking at it at a big box retailer. The advantages the plasma picture is negated by the bright lights of those big stores. The colors get dulled and the blacks turn gray, and now you have a LCD picture. A lot of plasmas have a glossy screen while LCD don't. Which one do you think will look better in the bright lights? Plasmas are more bang for the buck. I have a 42" Panasonic 1080p I have never regretted it.
by M5er February 14, 2009 6:48 PM PST
The only testimony I can offer is this - This past Christmas I bought my parents an HDTV. I went to Costco and did the side-by-side comparison. I spent at least 2 or 3 hours at 2 different locations comparing probably a dozen different screens.

Costco had several of the latest 120hz LCDs and 1080p displays for sale. But after all of my comparing, what did I decide on? A 37" 1080i Samsung PLASMA.

Why? The picture on it was phenomenal. I took my little brother with me to go shopping... He's 17 and he agreed that the picture on the Samsung Plasma was better, even in a side-by-side comparison with the "hottest" new technologies.

I have a TH-50PX60U for my place, and the picture on it is gorgeous. My roommate has a 1080i LCD, and we both agree that on my old Plasma, the PICTURE just looks better.

If Plasmas do go extinct, I'll make sure to stock up on a few, because I REALLY don't want to have to spend the rest of my life watching an LCD picture that is too bright, too white and not nearly as organic as Plasma.
Reply to this comment
by geertsen--2008 February 15, 2009 5:37 AM PST
Hello..

I think you are so right..Please read my comment. Thank you

/Jake from Europe
by Deathbringer February 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST
Im sorry. You simply do not have good understanding of tech. What are you a sales person? Plasma has a nice pictrure for as long as it lasts and thats the thing. AS LONG AS IT LASTS
by voksbug February 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST
Deathbringer, I've had my Plasma for 4 years (see my post above). The picture is still phenominal and I'll take the picture over any new 120 or 240hz LCD any day (I have one of those in my bedroom). Bottom line the average life of a television in the united states is 10 years, not necessarily because they break, but because people tend to move on to newer technologies.
by ecotony February 17, 2009 1:55 PM PST
Deathbringer

The current line of Panasonic Plasmas have a 60,000 hour 1/2 life.... That means you need to watch TV 10 hours a day for 16 years before you would notice a decline in image quality.

I think I would be looking for a new TV after 10 years or so... but the old one would keep chugging along for at least another 6 years of quality service... then we are talking about dimming prospers, not defunct.

Longevity of Plasmas are a moot issue today.

So apparently you do not have a good understanding of tech.
by Guchdog February 17, 2009 10:39 PM PST
AS LONG AS IT LAST? Question.... What will you do when your fluorescent back light burns out? I bet you will be surprise when you ask the manufacture of your LCD TV. Anyways have you ever seen an old LCD monitor, the backlighting gets dim and that happens way before the light goes out. Most LCD are supposedly rated 60k hours total but we've all run into a light bulb that burns out way before its prime. Like the other person said 60k hours for 1/2 life, that means it is still displaying a picture and can go on many many more hours after that. At then the picture might not be the greatest but will better than any LCD CFL backlit TV at 70k hours.
Showing 1 of 4 pages (121 Comments)
advertisement

About Fully Equipped

Executive Editor David Carnoy has been covering electronics for CNET since 2000, arriving at the company just as "that whole Internet bust thing" happened. Early on, he launched CNET's cell phone coverage, earning him the nickname "Wireless Dave," then moved on to bigger and broader things. Hunkered down in New York City, he oversees CNET's Home and Hardware reviews, which includes all things related to home theater, PC, and digital imaging. Fully Equipped covers the gamut of gadgets and gizmos and, to keep things lively, Carnoy likes to alternate between writing useful, advice-oriented pieces or thought-provoking columns with inflammatory headlines designed to elicit commentary from readers. Fully Equipped is the longest continuously running column on CNET.com.

For older columns, read the Fully Equipped archive (2002-2008).

Add this feed to your online news reader

Fully Equipped topics