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March 26, 2009 12:10 PM PDT

Why Sony should add Netflix to the PS3 now

by David Carnoy

Netflix's consumer survey has brought hope to PS3 owners with Netflix subscriptions.

(Credit: Engadget)

In recent days, rumors have been percolating about the PlayStation 3 getting Netflix streaming video support. Most of the rumors revolve around a survey that Netflix has out gauging user interest in adding its service to Sony's game console for a fee. No one seems to know whether Netflix or Sony commissioned the survey, but either way, it's certainly raised hopes with PS3 owners that they would get something that Xbox 360 owners have had for a while. (For what it's worth, nearly identical rumors of Netflix on the Wii have also been making the rounds.)

Interestingly, as the rumors make their way around the blogosphere, Sony's been trying to promote how robust its Playstation Network Service (PSN) is and how great a media extender the PS3 is. A few weeks ago, a few of us from CNET spent some time visiting with Sony PR and marketing reps in a hotel suite going over what PSN had to offer, including Home, Sony's online virtual community that's hit 5 million registered users. And just yesterday, I got a voice mail from a PR rep encouraging me to do a story on what a great media extender the PS3 is.

I said I'd do a story--but only in context of the Netflix rumors.

"Why doesn't Sony just add Netflix?" I asked.

Of course, I knew it wasn't as simple as that. Sony's been diligently building out its own video service on PSN--and doing a pretty good job of it. As the PR rep pointed out, you can now download 1,500 movies and 5,200 TV episodes from all the major studios. The only problem is that if you're a Netflix subscriber, there's little incentive to use it. (On the PS3, you can buy or rent movies and shows, with prices ranging from $1.99 to $5.99 for rentals, depending on release date or whether you're downloading standard-definition or HD versions).

I get the whole promotion of the video store. However, what struck me as a little odd is how Sony's also pushing "free" elements of the PS3 at the same time--most notably, the fact that you can use the PS3 as a media extender (it's a good one, arguably superior to the Xbox 360) to pull content off your computer in another room and stream it to a PS3 connected to a TV somewhere else in your house. Sony doesn't care where you got that content; it just wants you to know that the PS3 works well as an extender. It also wants you to know that you can use the PS3's browser to go to sites like Hulu.com, YouTube, and TV.com, which happens to be owned by CNET's parent company, CBS, and watch all the free streaming video you want.

The PR rep suggested that once you toss in the PS3's built-in Blu-ray player, you've got a do-it-all box that can potentially allow you to drop your cable or satellite provider and save real dough.

OK, I said, but you're still missing one thing.

"Some new Blu-ray players have Netflix streaming support," I said, referring to Samsung and LG, which both have Blu-ray players that do Netflix. "Why not just add it to the PS3?"

Again, it's not that simple, but I figured if I kept asking the question I might get an answer.

"Sony does not comment on rumors," the rep said.

Fine, I said. And I expressed that I totally understood that the situation on the PS3 was different from that of the Xbox 360. The fact is Microsoft doesn't exactly give away Netflix streaming support. You have to own an Xbox Live Gold subscription, which costs up to $50 a year, to access the Netflix Xbox 360 application. Sony doesn't have a tiered online subscription system; it's all free. So the whole concept of a $9.99 Instant Streaming Disc (or download) seems like a perfect solution (by comparison, the Roku Netflix box costs $100, so $10 would be a bargain).

The rep emailed me back.

"David, as I said, we do not comment on rumors or speculation. That said, I do have an approved quote about PSN that you can use in your story."

The quote was from Patrick Seybold, Director of Corporate Communications, SCEA. Here's what Mr. Seybold had to say:

"While we are always looking for ways to enhance our video entertainment through PlayStation 3, we are currently focusing on expanding video downloading through PlayStation Store, Blu-ray movie playback and streaming video through PS3's built-in Internet browser. Our video delivery service is a great example of how we are providing current and relevant movies and TV shows through new partners like MTV, Comedy Central, Spike TV, NBC, Universal Pictures, Nickelodeon and VH1."

Read into it what you will. I think Sony support for Netflix video streaming is coming. I just wish it was now.

As always, feel free to add your own two cents. How much would you be willing to pay for Netflix streaming support? And are you ready to drop your cable or satellite provider if it's added?

Hunkered down in New York City, Executive Editor David Carnoy covers the gamut of gadgets and writes his Fully Equipped column, which carries the tag line "The electronics you lust for." He's also the author of "Knife Music," a novel. E-mail David. Follow David on Twitter.
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by swiggins March 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
what are you talking about? The 360 has ONE BUTTON Media Center access, something that you have to jump through hoops to do on the PS3, .... and then there are all the compatibility issues with different PC's
My 360 works every time with one button. I gave up on the PS3 as a media extender.
By the way, it's just as much of a chore to hook the PSP up to it to play the new Resistance game.. You have been in love with the PS3 since it came out, I have had it since day one, and am not that thrilled.
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by seamonkey420 March 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT
i prefer to put my mp4 movies directly on my self-upgraded 500gb harddrive avoiding having to have internet at all to watch my 120 some fave movies. :)

plus, can you do hulu on your x360? ps3 browser can :P
by spaceghost1979 March 26, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
Must be using the wrong programs if you have to "jump through hoops" to use your PS3 as an extender. I only remember downloading and installing a program on my Vista32 and immediately showed up on my XMB. Otherwise if you don't want to download/install anything you can use Media Player, but I am thinking that is what you are referring to by these hoops. :)

All joking aside, I have already been watching my Netflix "Watch Instantly" movies on my PS3 and all my other media. Though I would enjoy a more native feel (and true HD), but I am a happy camper already.
by happyslappy13 March 26, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
i agree with u swiggens
i love my 360 and it does everything i want it to do
y dont these people just buy a 360???
theres nothing wrong with having BOTH consoles
by Sryche22 March 26, 2009 3:03 PM PDT
@ happy slappy....most people, especially right now, really can't afford two consoles....so it's very important to know which console is going to give you the best bang for your buck.
by phaselocke March 26, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
@spaceghost1979:

what's ur method for "watching Netflix "Watch Instantly" movies on [a] PS3"? a link to an informative website or program would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
by 2ndfallout March 26, 2009 9:49 PM PDT
PlayOn allows you to watch Netflix on your PS3. Works well!!!! There is a free trial. It also works on the 360 and allows you to watch Hulu and YouTube among others.

http://www.themediamall.com/playon
by spaceghost1979 March 27, 2009 6:10 AM PDT
PlayOn is a good piece of software which persuaded me to ditch my cable TV subscription. That in conjunction with Playstation Media Server (PMS) so I get to keep my 60GB PS3 hdd only for game saves/updates.

@happyslappy13 - Some of us do own more than one console, why buy an Xbox360 when I have a Vista box already? :)
by bjlong80 March 27, 2009 6:58 AM PDT
If you're jumping through hoops to use your PS3 as a media extender, you are DEFINATELY doing something wrong. I just downloaded this freeware program called TVersity, installed it and everytime I turn my PS3 on it automatically picks up the program and I start my movie. It's so simple a chimp can do it.
In addition, adding Netflix streaming capabilities would be a great idea! Sony assumes that adding it will detract business from their media library as it is, well in most cases I think that's just a moot point. I have netflix, I pay $20 for it, why I am going to spend MORE money renting movies off PSN? I don't do it with my iTunes account and I won't waste the money and rent from PSN either.
by SirWilliamBlade June 19, 2009 5:49 PM PDT
i already have netflix on my PS3..along with hulu, HGTV, adult swim, CNN, and a few other programs...it is called play on...the wonders of computer technology. XBOX 360 has nothing going for it, sorry...put a web browser in it already.
by sticks1839 March 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
I agree that adding Netflix is a must for Sony. And if they are content with focusing on streaming video, then just update the browser enough to work with Netflix's website for streaming instead of doing a dedicated App. And while they are at it, they can update the browser to work with the network TV websites streaming video.
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by blusky08 March 26, 2009 6:10 PM PDT
Thanks for finally addressing this issue.

Also, why did Sony decide to allow Amazon VOD using the Bravia Internet Video Link (which few have or want) intead of the PS3? Seems phenomenally misguided.

Sony is seriously limiting the usefulness of the PS3, and this affects PS3 sales (no PS3 here yet) as well Blu-ray adoption.
by Renegade Knight March 27, 2009 8:14 AM PDT
Exactly. They just need to fix the browser to work with Silverlight which is what Netflix streams with. It would be a far better solution than cloning the hack that they use on the 360 that gives you less service than standard Netflix streaming. You would think MicroSoft would have done that with the 360 since they are behind Silverlight.

Sony could score a major victory here and one up the crappy 360 implementation. (for the 360 fans, been there done that, nobody in the house uses it, we use a computer instead. It works better).
by celticbrewer April 14, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
I agree. I can watch about a minute of hulu before it craps out on the PS3 browser. Surely it'll just take a tweak to make it work. Of course, there's ways around it, like PlayOn

Silverlight- that's a different story. I doubt M$ will play fair.
by nbuser March 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
I own a PS3 and after trying many different options for using PS3 as media extender I found "PS3 Media Server - Java based" as a simple and perfect solution. Only thing that I can't to easily is stream online movies.

So if Netflix do come to PS3 and offers HD quality I will be really excited.
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by -fjtorres- March 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
I don't think getting Netflix on PS3 is totally up to Sony.
Netflix itself has a say.
And they have strong ties to MS right now; they use their tech, their CEO sits on the MS Board of directors...
Odds are, there are contractual issues in the partnership, cause MS is actively promoting Netflix for XBOX constantly and Netflix sponsors many of the 360 inhouse videos.
This may be another case where 360 gets the exclusive on an at-least timed basis; I doubt Netflix on PS3 will happen any time before November (and the first anniversary of Netflix on 360).
If at all.
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by Crazy-88s March 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
i'll tell you sony does have that do it all but will require 3rd party apps. Sony didnt even realease any official apps that will let the ps3 be used a an extender. Microsoft did with their xbox360. And i must say Xbox360 does a great job. Cant say the same for sony.You have to buy some kind of app to make the ps3 an extender. You also have to buy some app if you want to stream netflix movies to the ps3 unofficially. That sucks!
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by oby3000 March 26, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
your a ******* dumb ass 3rd party apps! i never heard of such a thing its all built in from the begin g just not the netflix if u don't like it put ubuntu on there and u got a ******* computer.
by Renegade Knight March 27, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
The PS3 is UPNP (or whatever the intials are) compliant making this more viable than the propriatary extender for pulling media off a UPNP server (or host). Since the 360 is a meda extender it should be able to read the UPNP source as well. I don't see an edge to either here, or a 'loss' to the PS3 side.
by Sryche22 March 26, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
HD QUALITY...that's what it's all about....if you can show me that netflix can stream HD Quality with perfect video/sound, then it may be worth it.,..otherwise...the 35min d/l of a 3gig HD quality rental on PSN for the same price as renting a blockbuster blu-ray is good enough for me
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by BCF1968 March 26, 2009 2:46 PM PDT
You CAN get Netflix on your PS3. It's called PlayOn and it's one time $40 fee. Unlike the $50 yearly fee MS charges for Xbox Live Gold which is REQUIRED to use NetFlix.
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by mr_sm March 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT
@BCF1968

Exactly, I have both consoles and PlayOn is WAY BETTER than using the 360 for netflix. Not only do you get Netflix, but Hulu, CBS, Amazon VOD, ESPN, CNN, and still growing. Plus I can set it to not play the craptastic netflix super low bitrate. Or say I want faster load times, and set it to the Med instead of high Quality Stream. Xbox 360 doesn't let you do anything. You sit there then the movies stops for 40 Sec. then it tells you I'll adjust this for you, and comes back with some super blurry under water unwatchable crap.
by blusky08 March 26, 2009 5:47 PM PDT
Except you have to stream it from your computer to the PS3. May as well just plug your computer into your TV and forget it.
by BCF1968 March 26, 2009 7:11 PM PDT
"by blusky08 March 26, 2009 5:47 PM PDT
Except you have to stream it from your computer to the PS3. May as well just plug your computer into your TV and forget it."

Yeah except my computer doesn't look so hot hooked up to a 4:3 CRT 480i TV via S-Video

Not to mention maybe the TV with the PS3 is the family TV and maybe sometimes you want to use your computer when others are watching TV.
by letsgoblues2 March 27, 2009 8:08 AM PDT
Hey blusky08, the article refers to PS3/Netflix compatibility, and the answer is PlayOn. BCF1968 and mr_sm make great points as well. You must be an Xbox360 owner.
by Renegade Knight March 27, 2009 8:18 AM PDT
40 bucks to get what I'm already paying for?
by blusky08 March 27, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
"Hey blusky08, the article refers to PS3/Netflix compatibility, and the answer is PlayOn. BCF1968 and mr_sm make great points as well. You must be an Xbox360 owner."
-----letsgoblues2

Never owned an Xbox, never will.
Most people want the simplicity of streaming directly. Why pay $40 for PlayOn and still have use a computer to stream to the PS3? Just skip the PS3 altogether by using the computer or Roku box.
by BCF1968 March 27, 2009 8:32 PM PDT
"by Renegade Knight March 27, 2009 8:18 AM PDT
40 bucks to get what I'm already paying for? "

$40 ONE time. vs $50 a year for XBL Gold. Hmmmm. Want to use a Roku box, shell out $100.
by blusky08 March 30, 2009 12:00 PM PDT
Yeah, you forgot about the pain of streaming it from a computer. And the quirks of using the program, as pointed out by other users.
by Jollyroger84 March 26, 2009 3:46 PM PDT
I don't care about Sony's on demand store. Why in the holy heck should I have to pay per view something when I can get all I want Netflix streaming for free? I am sorry, but I am not going to pay $1.99 every time I want to watch a TV show on demand when I already have a DVR or I can watch it on my computer for free. Come on Sony, get with the program here! Netflix is a perfect value add service, and if I have to pay a yearly subscription I'm ok with that as long as its not too high. The PS3 is already over-priced and if Netflix streaming comes to the Wii in addition to 360, game over for PS3. Blueray is not compelling enough to sell the PS3 when streaming is the model of the future. Physical formats are dying, and fast. Sony may have won the HDDVD-Blueray battle, but if they don't get in line with streaming in a business model people actually want, they'll lose the war.
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by BCF1968 March 26, 2009 7:21 PM PDT
Ok nextflix stream isn't 'free' it's $9 a month. It's only free if your using the netlfix mail delivery thing anyways. Also the amount of streaming content is lacking. Movies out on DVD for 6 months or more still not available via streaming? Sorry anyone that was going to buy or rent it already has.

Physical media is NOT dying. Many people can't get broadband internet. Many that do can only get very low speeds not good for streaming and downloading takes forever. Many that can get very high speeds don't because it's too expensive. Of course now ISPs have caps. For example Charter's 10 Mbps tier only has 100 GB cap. An "HD" stream or download is in the 6 GB range. How may of those can you do and still have enough cap to do everything else.

Considering ISPs have ZERO interest bringing broadband to people that don't currently have it and they seem to want to REDUCE the amount of useage of current customers I see physical media having a HUGE advantage. I can go rent a blu-ray at Movie Gallery and bring it to my friends house and watch it. Since he doesn't have internet access he can't download or stream it. physical media 1 streaming/downloading 0
by blusky08 March 29, 2009 7:18 AM PDT
Another problem with Playstation Network: Sony brags about how you can purchase/own content from PSN. It is only viewable with a PS3 or PSP! First, not everyone uses a PSP. Second, once your PS3 fails, then what? What a joke.

Even better than Netflix would be allowing the PS3 to stream Amazon content (over 40,000 titles and no subscription!). But Sony seems to be playing its usual games since they allow you to use its expensive (and problematic) Bravia Internet Video attachment only.
by Renegade Knight March 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
@blusky08

Those problems are an issue with all digital download sales. Except maybe some music. It's not specific to Sony or anyone else. In other words it's no a reason to hate the PS3. Now if the only way to do content on a PS3 was that way I'd be right with you.
by sunjaym March 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
i agree with jollyroger but blusky08, what do you mean by "Second, once your PS3 fails, then what?". ps3's dont fail like 360 which use inferior parts. dont hate me for being a ps3 owner. 360s have inferior parts and thats a fact, not ps3s
by blusky08 March 30, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
You have me confused with someone else--I didn't say anything about PS3's failing. They are solid machines.

As for the Sony Store, downloads are incredibly expensive, imo. For example, the four volume set of Monty Python's Flying Circus would cost $90 to rent all episodes! You can buy the complete mega-set for LESS, and own it on disc forever!
by DJOmega6 March 26, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
What Sony needs is to subtract $100 from the price of the PS3. That is more important than Netflix.
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by Sryche22 March 26, 2009 5:22 PM PDT
Can you please stop with the whole "price drop" argument.....the PS3 is the best bang for your buck...you get the bluray drive, free online service, DTS-MA sound, upgradable Hard drive, built in wifi and an internet browser.

The bluray drive is always going to be the perfect selling point....you get it for the Bluray movies but it also is leading the way for gaming in allowing that extra capacity for developers to give you the best graphics quality and surround sound gaming possible for years to come...you can't get that with the 360...and if anyone argues that the 360's dvd is better for gaming then the PS3's bluray drive for the next 5-7 years...you're crazy
by not2worried March 27, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
I agree... It might be the best "bang for your buck". But its in a time when many people are holding on to their bucks.
They are finally starting to get some games worth buying...
I bought my Xbox for Games !!!!
Which Ps3 has been lacking.

Netflix is a added bonus
by blusky08 March 27, 2009 9:36 AM PDT
The PS3 is only the best bang for the buck if you will invest in BR and gaming. Otherwise, it is a "jack of all trades, master of none." The browsing is subpar and it is severaly limited from being the core of one's media center as it is touted to be. If Sony would pre-load it with Linux and unlock its computing capabilities and open it up to streaming from many sources, then it would be a phenomenal deal.
by Sryche22 March 27, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
@ blusky...."...PS3 is only the best bang for the buck if you will invest in BR and gaming."Well brah...that's exactly what the machine is designed for, bluray disc playback and gaming...are you expecting it to cook you dinner, make your bed , and make you popular?

Anyone who is that interested in putting Linux on the PS3 will have no problem doing so (it's rather easy IMO) and if all you're looking for is a console with an internet browser and the ability to have an OS on it...than just stick with a computer...no gaming console would be good for you then....especially since you have no ability to do that on the 360 or Wii
by blusky08 March 27, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
You missed the point.
The BR and gaming features by themselves send many people looking at competing consoles/players.

Its unnecessary limitations make its other features next to useless. They haven't unlocked the processing power for use with Linux. It isn't compatible with any major download/streaming sites (except Sony's). For almost nothing, Sony could unleash this system's capabilities, marketing it as a basic computer system with great browsing and access to online content. It would make the PS3 an obvious bargain, and give a boost BR in the process.
by MrMurder March 26, 2009 4:59 PM PDT
Sony should do both, subtract a $100 from the PS3's price tag and give it Netflix streaming. I think the streaming should be free to anyone or at least allowed by accessing your Netflix account.
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by madmonkey747 March 26, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
WHY SONY DOESN'T NEED NETFLIX...
lets say you have a netflix account and an xbox 360 or a ps3.
Xbox 360: You can rent dvd's as well as stream them for extra $50 per year(gold live).
PS3: You can add an extra $1 per month to get bluray's as well as dvd's with netflix, and you can enjoy surround sound and HD at 1080.
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by dirty55409 March 26, 2009 8:05 PM PDT
Why does it need Netflix?? Umm because it sucks. There's no dealbreaker. With media consistently heading towards digital Mediums... Blu Ray is losing the battle. Nobody cares if they have to spend 3 bucks to see a movie they probably won't want to see over and over/ever own. it's too expensive and the 360 is way way more appealing
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by Sryche22 March 26, 2009 11:26 PM PDT
Bluray is not losing the battle...get your facts straight....it's been gaining ground month after month....it will be years before the U.S. has high enough bandwiths to allow streaming of full quality HD picture and sound with no compression...

...so get over it...bluray is here to stay...if you're happy with the crappy compression that you get with xbox360 dvd discs and xbox 360 netflix....you're not part of the equation anyway
by roachbrain March 27, 2009 7:43 AM PDT
Correction, only appealing to short sited people that can?t realize that PS3 will always be the better choice. It?s a better bargain for all you would get out the box, the tech is truly next gen, and failure rate is almost nonexistent next to the RROD or the new E74 error plaguing 360. Well I can only speak for myself and from what I?ve seen. 2 brothers, 1 brother in law, and 8 friends all have PS3 and all (knock on wood) have not needed any repairs and are highly used.

I hope (I really do) that Sony doesn?t take MS business practices as a guide for future counsel. I would hate if Sony starts releasing low quality core unit just to make a quick dollar. If that does happen count me a full time PC gamer.
by niko_osokin March 26, 2009 9:09 PM PDT
I appreciate the incentive, but honestly, this topic's answer is obvious. Might as well have called it, 'Why the sky is blue".
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by DJOmega6 March 27, 2009 3:25 AM PDT
Uh...no, I can't. It's the main reason the PS3 is behind the 360. "The best bang for the buck" argument is getting old. While all that other stuff is great for people like us (blu-ray is why I bought the PS3 over the 360) the majority of gamers could give a crap. They care about game selection and price. The game selection has gotten much better, and continues to. But the price is killing them in the long run.
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by alphaneuron March 27, 2009 5:01 AM PDT
Well, I'd have to say the "PS3 is too expensive" argument is even older than the "best bang for your buck" argument. You can't expect a BMW to sell for less than a Ford. The PS3 is already less expensive than the 360 (after you factor in the 360's hidden costs); it doesn't make sense for Sony to drop the price further. You can only encourage people to spend their money wisely; you can't force them to do it.

A $100 price drop would result in another billion dollar loss for Sony. I think their customers are better served if they use some of that billion to improve Home and communication options in PSN, develop more, better games and keep adding firmware improvements the way they have been.

Besides, I think it's a bit of a myth that Sony is far behind the 360. How many of those 360s are actually in working condition? Resident Evil 5 sold more copies on the PS3 than on the 360, in spite of Killzone 2 coming out at the same time! And PS3 exclusive games have graphics like nothing on the 360. It's only a matter of time.
by not2worried March 27, 2009 8:23 AM PDT
Yeh in the US PS3 is falling father behind every month...
Without a price drop... you have a slow death...
A price drop would get more people to buy... and increase games sales ( were the money is made)
Yes they would lose more money upfront.
by Renegade Knight March 27, 2009 8:24 AM PDT
Speaking of old. Listing to people who dont' live in the real world.
I have a 360 and a PS3. The 360 when upgraded to what I needed (in other words matching what the PS3 did out of the box) cost me more. The PS3 is the best bang for the buck if you do need to ugprade the 360 to get it working right for your use.. If you don't, the 360 is the better deal. It's simple math based on what you need the console to do.
by jarkoet March 27, 2009 5:11 AM PDT
I have every major console available and I have to say I do find the 360 to be more of a pain than anything. Opened my PS3 and my Wii and as soon as it was hooked to the TV I had the ability to go online. My 360 had me running to the store to pay and additional 100 bucks for a flimsy plastic piece so I could bring it to the same level as the Wii. I honestly have to say that after all this time I have never found a 360 game that has Wow'd me enough to make me thankful for my purchase. Sadly enough I do believe that by adding Netflix Sony would just increase its margin as the superior console.
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by blusky08 March 27, 2009 9:43 AM PDT
Yes, it would. It would be another $100 savings over investing in a Roku or similar box. Simple advantage that would cost Sony next to nothing to enable.
by solblack March 27, 2009 7:08 AM PDT
Seriously, it's not that big of a deal. Long as i can stream i'm happy.:)
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by jpsalerno March 27, 2009 8:02 AM PDT
My feelings on this are mixed. I have both consoles and feel they both offer some significant pros and cons.

Starting with the 360, if you have a Netflix account than setting up the streaming function is a no-brainer. On the other hand, becoming a member mostly so you can take advantage of the streaming may leave you a bit disappointed. The quality ranges from downright awful to slightly above DVD quality. So far, the sound is still being output in Stereo (not 5.1) so if you're into having the best possible sound/video you're definitely better off sticking with DVD (or bluray if you have it.)

Sometimes you're not that concerned with the overall quality. Netflix has a ton of hit shows and, after recently ditching cable, I thought I'd miss the TBS office marathon. Not with Netflix. I can watch any episode I want. Since shows like that don't exactly demand the same type of setup as say... a moviie like the Dark Knight, the limitations aren't really that much of a factor. Simply put, Netflix streaming truly shines when your primary concern isn't to achieve the best overall video/sound presentation. Once they improve their system, this could change for the better. For now... it's a nice alternative to DVD/bluray but by no means a replacement.

As for whether or not the PS3 needs it... As some have mentioned, there's a service called 'PlayOn' that gives you Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc capability. I have it and am pretty impressed overall. The interface leaves a lot to be desired however. The ease of finding things on a computer vs PlayOn (on either the 360 or PS3) is VAST! To say the interface is clumsy and ill-conceived would be an understatement. You get used to it and learn ways around it... but it definitely needs work. As a quick example.... You cannot search YouTube through PlayOn. If the content you're looking for isn't in one of the preset categories they created, the other other way to get the content is to add the particular user (who uploaded it) to your list of users on your PC. My kids love baby einstein so I had to do this for them... Somewhat tedious but, again, you figure it out.

The last thing I'll say is this. Yes, the PS3 is a phenomenal machine that has the potential to be around for a very long time. The blu-ray, in addition to offering the best movie watching experience, does give game developers a ton of storage to develop games. Whether that translates into better games is debatable. More is not always better. To my knowledge, MGS4 was and is the only game to fully take advantage of the blu-ray. While impressive, that game bored me to tears. Give me a tiny (in comparrison) racing or sports game on a DVD-rom over that any day! But I digress... The PS3 certainly has the potential. But so what? By the time the PS3 hits its stride (if it ever does) a new Xbox will undoubtedly hit the market. Being 2nd in the last gen wars wasn't nearly as big of a detriment as it is now. The reason has to do with online content. Comparing the 360's overall online experience to the PS3 is like comparing a Mustang to a Smartcar. Sony's ace in the hole is the Home Network... but so far, that doesent' exactly seem to be taking off. And unfortuneatly for Sony, it will only be as good as the people that get involved with it.
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by Sryche22 March 27, 2009 8:41 AM PDT
I agree with most everything you said except that you will see in 2009 what bluray will do for the PS3 in terms of quality games...don't forget the PS3 is a year younger than the Xbox 360...which had it's big great year last year with Halo 2 and Gears 2...

...we're not even a full 3 months into the year and the PS3 has had Killzone 2, we look forward to about 4-5 AAA games....and you stack on top of that the fact that John Carmack....the mastermind over at id Software is flat out saying that the choice for MS to stick with DVD media for their games is really frustrating for him. Their new IP RAGE may end up being 3-4 discs in order to keep the quality the same as the PS3 bluray version.

Ultimately, if you are a true gamer...the PS3 is for you...if you're a true HD enthusiast, the PS3 is for you....if you're a casual gamer and not interested in a Home Theater...then maybe the 360 or Wii is for you.

BTW...Sony's "ace in the hole" is not HOME specifically....it's the fact that their total online service is FREE.
by letsgoblues2 March 27, 2009 8:05 AM PDT
You can stream from Netflix....it's called Playon....thanks for hours of research CNET...
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by 360sux March 27, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
I will use netflix. If it comes to ps3, and I think sony and netflix are stupid if they don't make this happen. At this point we need as many eggs in the ps3 basket as we can fit. We have the momentum and we need to keep it going, the only way the Ms and nintendo will be able to keep up (in the very near future) is to release a new system, bluray is the future. And the ps3 is the spear head.
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by sting7k March 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
There is only one thing the PS3 needs and Netflix isn't it. It needs to be $300. End of story.
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by Sryche22 March 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT
And why should the PS3 be the same price as the 360?
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