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Does the iPhone need a real keyboard?

by David Carnoy

CNET Poll

iPhone Keyboard
Does the next iPhone need a slide-out keyboard?

Yes, the touch screen doesn't cut it for heavy texting.
No, the touch-screen keyboard works perfectly well.



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The other day, as I sat waiting for Jeff Bezos to appear in an auditorium to announce the new Kindle DX, I was surrounded by iPhones. Literally. Two people to my right, two people in front of me, and three people in back of me were all tapping out IMs or e-mails on their iPhones. What struck me was how awkward most of these people looked, tapping away with a single finger, laboring to type sentences just a few lines long.

Now I know some people can type quickly using the iPhone's virtual keyboard. A week earlier I'd witnessed a woman, her iPhone sitting on a table, taping with two fingers at a highly elevated rate (the rat-tat-tat of her typing on the table was quite noisy, which drew onlookers). But there are still a lot of people out there who just can't get used to typing on the iPhone. And many a BlackBerry user has told me she will never be able to switch to the iPhone because she needs a physical keyboard.

My wife is a case in point. She lives on her Blackberry and can type emails with astonishing speed. When she was required recently to get a "personal" cell phone separate from her work cell phone, she opted to get the exact same BlackBerry Curve on AT&T that she used for work--even though she could have gotten the iPhone for the same price (at least in terms of hardware costs). She's a BlackBerry user through and through, even after a couple of her BlackBerries broke (more on that in a minute).

I wouldn't be the first to suggest that Apple make a slider version of the iPhone that would incorporate a physical keyboard. On a lot of levels, it would make a lot of sense. Apple could do a so-called consumer version of the iPhone, as well as a model that had a slightly more corporate bent to take on BlackBerry directly in that market. (The BlackBerry Curve did outsell the iPhone last quarter).

However, the iPhone's virtual keyboard is tied into an overarching Apple design philosophy for the device, and chances are very slim Apple will alter the iPhone hardware beyond a few small tweaks. From a software standpoint, where the biggest changes will come, one of the key additions in iPhone 3.0 OS is native support for a landscape (horizontal) virtual keyboard, which would allow you to go to a more ergonomic two-thumbed approach and should make the overall typing experience significantly better. True, that functionality has been available for a while--but only through third-party apps that only a small minority of users download.

The rumored Motorola Android phone looks a lot like my dream iPhone.

(Credit: The Boy Genius Report )
Why didn't Apple offer a landscape mode for the keyboard from the get-go? That's one of those Apple mysteries that's hard to solve along with "The Case of the missing stereo Bluetooth," "Voice dialing, where are you?", and the ever popular "Waiting for cut and paste," an existential drama in three acts. Word is these features should be available in iPhone 3.0.

Will having a native landscape mode for the virtual keyboard satisfy BlackBerry keyboard aficionados? Probably not. As good as Apple's virtual keyboard might be for a virtual keyboard you'll still have millions of people who only feel comfortable with a physical keyboard.

Personally, I'm partial to hard keyboards and I initially liked the slide-out keyboard on my Sprint Mogul, though I still miss the feel of the Blackberry keyboard on my ancient, e-mail-only BlackBerry 857. However, there is one big strike against physical keyboards: because you have moving parts involved, they tend to be plagued by mechanical failures over time. My Mogul keyboard is on the fritz, and some days I want to throw the phone against the wall (my contract is up in June, which is when I will replace it). Fellow editor John Falcone, who got his Mogul at around the same time I did, is also having problem with his keyboard, which leads me to believe many physical keyboards simply have a limited lifespan. In the case of the Mogul, which is made by HTC, the problem may involve the sliding mechanism and the connection between the keyboard and the phone's motherboard--not necessarily the keys themselves.

Blackberry keyboards tend to be pretty durable. But my wife's scroll wheel on two her older Blackberries died from heavy use. Apparently, this problem was widespread because in future devices Blackberry moved to a trackball in the Curve. But it, too, can develop problems over time as dust and dirt from your fingers clog things up--just like with a computer trackball.

Clearly, by going with a virtual keyboard--and a pure touch interface--Apple and AT&T have managed to avoid customer-service headaches related to the breakdown of broken parts associated with physical keyboards, navigational joysticks, trackballs, or scroll wheels. When an iPhone gets screwed up, it tends to involve a bum battery, some form of mysterious internal glitch that causes intermittent freezes/shutdowns or battery drains--or someone just dropping the phone. At least those are the problems I hear about.

But even as I point out the downsides to physical keyboards, I'd still opt for an iPhone with a slide-out "hard" keyboard if given the choice. That's part of the reason why I'll take a long look at the Palm Pre when it comes out around the same time the third-generation iPhone does (both are expected to arrive in June) and anything new and interesting BlackBerry has on tap.

What do you guys think? Any iPhone owners still struggling with the keyboard? Or is it just fine the way it is and will only get better with a native landscape mode?

Hunkered down in New York City, Executive Editor David Carnoy covers the gamut of gadgets and writes his Fully Equipped column, which carries the tag line "The electronics you lust for." He's also the author of "Knife Music," a novel. E-mail David. Follow David on Twitter.
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by May 12, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
I can't type for my life on the iPhone, that's the main reason I prefer the G1...

In terms of Blackberries I think the Bold has the best keyboard of all of them...
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by blusky08 May 12, 2009 12:48 PM PDT
I'd actually like to see a larger, portable, folding keyboard as an accessory for the iPhone/iPod. It would be more convenient than a netbook or laptop for basic tasks (especially writing) on the go.
by Hockeyfan333 May 12, 2009 11:00 AM PDT
I am an iphone owner and I agree that the landscape keyboard is a much better typing experience on it. With that mode enabled for all apps, I'll be happy with my virtual keyboard. I really haven't missed the physical keyboard that I had previously on a SideKick II.
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by Moofed May 12, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
Honestly, I did find it a bit bothersome initially. I had been using a BB and then the AT&T Tilt [HTC TyTn II] and getting used to the iPhone is, infact, a bit of a learning curve. I have friends who refused to use the iPhone solely because of the lack of a physical keyboard.

However, after a while, you get up to speed and it's quite easy typing on the virtual qwerty. So, in essence, the iPhone keyboard is just fine after a while..
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by darkpoet25 May 12, 2009 6:25 PM PDT
Yeah before I got my iPhone 3G I had a Helio Ocean. I was a little worried about getting a touchscreen phone, due to the typing. But after a little while I got used to it and can type fairly fast with few mistakes now. Having the iPhone since December, I prefer not to go back to a QWERTY keypad. Sometimes the keys would stick on my Helio Ocean, not to mention having to constantly slide it up to call or sideways to type got to be a big pain the you know what. For those who are worried, you can go on eBay and get cheap packs of stylus pens to help you type. The Pre looks like a great device, but Palm keyboards often have keys so small, like on the Centro, to where you need the fingers of a two year old to type.
by SkateNY May 12, 2009 9:25 PM PDT
I agree. I have an iPod Touch. I was nonplussed with the keyboard at first. But, and is true of any technology, I learned not only to live with it, but do well with it.

So much about new technology for consumers has to do with what we're comfortable with. If you're ready and willing to engage the learning curve, then it's not going to work for you.
by seven7dust May 12, 2009 10:52 PM PDT
same here !
the the touchscreen keyboard is joy to use after a bit of Practice !
I would never go back to a plastic Qwerty keyboard !
by Gianni_Simplicio May 12, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
Look... I keep hearing on Cnet that the virtual keyboard is hard to type on. It's not. In fact, it's easier and faster. If you have trouble with it, it's because you're a raging moron with fat fingers. Please quit posting these non-stories about how the iPhone should have a keyboard. No one cares.
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by dbar2 May 12, 2009 11:42 AM PDT
You sound like the raging moron to me ;)
by MyTThor May 12, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
have to agree with Dbar here
by dragontsd May 12, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
I dunno, I dont have any problem typing on it. I get by just fine.
by ewestby May 12, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
A fairly pointless comment, seeing as how it's obvious from the comments that people do care.
by Gianni_Simplicio May 12, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
Well, millions watch American Idol, but that doesn't mean that there needs to be a preshow, postshow, extended scenes show, a weekend wrapup and ten thousand blogs dedicated to discussing what so-and-so wore on the show. All I'm saying is that there have been no less than a dozen stories on the iPhone's virtual keyboard, and they all have the EXACT same progression. iPhone didn't, doesn't and will not have a sliding keyboard. What would be really nice would be integration of the iPhone with the iTech laser virtual keyboard. That way, we could stop worrying about whether a smartphone has a microscopic keyboard that can only be typed on with two fingers anyway and start using a full-size and instantly accessable/removable one.
by romodoc May 13, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
I agree with Dbar and Mytthor. BTW the finger diameter correlates with other parts of you anatomy so I can understand your frustration and rage against people with fat fingers. Hey but is not all that bad, at least you can iType fast.
by jahf May 13, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
I have an iPhone. I used to be a BB user. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the physical keyboard is better. The moron is the one who assumes that just because they can do something well that anyone who can't is a moron.
by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:32 PM PDT
the thing about a virtual keyboard is that it has no physical feedback. We humans use our sense of touch to help formulate an image in our brain (wether blind or not). You have too pay close attention to your phone so that you dont miss a key on a virtual keyboard because it has to distinguishing aspects such as height. As much as many iphone users like to believe they can type better, from a scientific angle it's hogwash. You're either superman or delusional.............and something tells me that superman wouldnt use an iphone :P
by lawgone May 14, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
I'm with Gianni...I have never had a problem typing on my iPhone and find it far easier than typing on a tiny little physical keyboard. Guess that makes me superhuman according to some. The main problem with the physical keyboard is that the text on it is usually scrunched and tiny as each key has multiple functions. Not a problem with a virtual keyboard. Everything is nice and clear. I'm 32 and find most of the people that complain about needing a physical keyboard are older than me OR text as they drive and need the tactile response for that, which is a bad idea in the first place. Just an observation.

P.S. Look at that picture of the authors dream iPhone...it's hideous!
by ImmySewell June 4, 2009 3:28 PM PDT
I'm a raging moron with fat fingers
by Renegade Knight May 12, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Yes. The virtual keyboard is a nice option but it's frustrating to miskey when you are tapping the right spot (or think you are). Not all of us have fingers thin as a stylus.
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by TowerTone May 12, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
No.
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by bluelight421 May 12, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
i dunno why this continues to be an issue for people. I have fairly large fingers and after 2 weeks with the iphone i was able to outpace my fiance who has been typing on a physical keyboard for over 3 years. and im not even talking about the landscape keyboard! i mean 2 thumbs and the portrait standard keyboard. im not trying to offend anyone who is having trouble, but all i can say is to give up the one index finger pecking at the virtual keyboard, and give both thumbs a try. With the advanced touchscreen that the iphone has, you will find it quite responsive to light taps, and you will get faster in time. just give it a shot!
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by TheJustin84 May 12, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
I agree. I use my thumbs to bang out emails and texts extremely fast. I guess there is a learning curve to it but once you trust and get used to the typing it becomes quite easy. Landscape will help the two thumb texting for those who really have fat fingers. But all in all they iPhone is just fine without a physical keyboard and knowing apple I don't think we'll ever see a physical keyboard on the iPhone. Less buttons is the way apple likes to work.
by lavern May 12, 2009 12:02 PM PDT
could it be that some folks just prefer a real keyboard and its irrelevant that you (one person) likes it?
by TowerTone May 12, 2009 4:03 PM PDT
or could it be that some folks just prefer the iPhone how it is and its irrelevant that you (one person) doesn't like it?
by RyanRayLA May 12, 2009 11:40 PM PDT
I must agree -- I can type faster with two thumbs on my iPhone virtual Keyboard than most people can type with a full PC/Mac keyboard. People are just scared of making errors so they don't try. The iPhone corrects almost all errors. My biggest problem is that I sometimes switch languages on my keyboard and then your up sh*** creek :-).
by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:34 PM PDT
lol if you say you can type faster on an iphone than a computer keyboard you are spending WAY too much time on your phone....get some fresh air lol
by rbowrbow May 12, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
See, the thing is, people aren't willing to trust the iPhone's auto-correction. I have learned to use two thumbs to type, even on the portrait keyboard. My typing speed is outrageously fast (and quiet unlike that lady up there,) and I rarely ever make a mistake. Even the fact that I have large thumbs doesn't stop the auto-correction from figuring out what I want to type. The auto-correction is so good in fact, that sometimes i have been able to type WITHOUT LOOKING!

Sure, people want tactile keyboards, and maybe a lot of these nay sayers just hate apple for whatever reason... that's fine... but what they need to learn is the system that the iphone has now works. It saves real-estate while still providing a good user experience. It's just that people are too afraid to put their trust into the auto-correction, and would rather sit there poking one letter at a time instead.
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by DOGLLAMA May 12, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
thats because auto-correct sux for the abbreviated texting of people today. maybe if we all typed in full proper english, but texting language has evolved and auto-correct has not evolved to keep up with it.
by lavern May 12, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
I think your crazy. anything that isn't standard it won't pick it up....
by rbowrbow May 12, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
That is true. I don't succumb to the de-evolution of the human race that is abbreviated internet language. While I could sit and argue my point that the overuse of acronymic text makes people stupider, it's hard to argue the fact that so many people use it regardless. I will agree with your points that this style of input does not cater to those people, but neither will much else for that matter. To each his own...
by stressedCPA May 12, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
rbowrbow, "Stupider?" I guess even those who don't use acronymic text are "stupider;" that isn't a real word so stop trying to sound intelligent. Look it up.
by rbowrbow May 12, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
I'm not pretending to be a grammatical wizard. Don't get all butt hurt about it. Besides, do you honestly think that the overuse of acronyms is a GOOD thing?
by DOGLLAMA May 12, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
maybe not, but neither are Michael Bay films, and I don't see those going out of style anytime soon...
by NYTechie May 13, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
Stupid, stupider, stupidest--they're all words (I looked it up, stressedCPA) and relevant descriptions of a lot of the commenter's on CNET...

I text while I walk, and don't need to look at the keyboard while I write (I think we've all run into those people on the street who are so wrapped up in their smartphone they could get hit by a car), but I really need the physical keyboard to do this--to guide my thumbs: that's why I have a Blackberry Curve. It's always shoved in my pocket or in my gym bag and I've never had any issues with the moving parts so I feel like it's durable enough for me and my habits.

On the other hand, I have an iPod Touch and it's easy enough to write things down when I'm not on the go--there was a learning curve, but when you're sitting on an airplane bored out of your mind or in the subway, there's time to pick it up, fiddle around--any techcentric person can learn it easily enough. That being said, the minute Apple comes out with an iPhone with a keyboard (if they do, rather), essentially marrying my two devices, I'll be sold because that's what works the best for my on-the-go life.
by AdamB5000 May 12, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
Howard Stern likes a physical QWERTY keyboard. That's what kept him from buying the iPhone.

FYI.

:)
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by dragontsd May 12, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
lets all do what howard stern does...that sounds like a great idea.
by TyDiz May 13, 2009 2:05 AM PDT
Well, Howard Stern does have a tv show where chicks get naked daily, maybe it's because he doesn't have an iPhone, eh?

Ummm...Come to think about it probably not. I guess that's a mystery left unsolved for another day XD
by AdamB5000 May 13, 2009 5:29 AM PDT
Take a chill pill, dragonstd.
by JBundyLive May 12, 2009 11:30 AM PDT
I have an iPod Touch. I like the landscape keyboard, but I am imprecise in portrait mode. I like the idea of the virtual keyboard, as it allows the device to keep its slim form factor. The portrait mode just takes a little bit of patience. I don't see the need for a physical keyboard with this device. However, my HTC Touch could benefit from one. I know it's an old device that I bought into early on, but in retrospect, I should've held out for the Touch Pro as Windows Mobile's poor memory management of add-on virtual keyboards slows its responsiveness down even more. If AT&T didn't rape everyone on rates, I'd have subscribed with an iPhone.


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by superswiss May 12, 2009 11:36 AM PDT
I'm still struggeling with typing on the iPhone. I think the virtual keyboard is the worst part of the iPhone. Yes, the autocorrection works pretty well if you are typing emails or text messages, but it doesn't work when you are trying to type an email address or a contact name etc. In those places I constantly struggle to not make typos. I'm pretty fast texting and emailing, but entering a contact name, email address or URL is very frustrating on the iPhone.
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by eastpointvet May 12, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
im with rbow its just a trust thing. bottom line i type much faster and more accurately with my iphone than i do with my work BB. i also been running 3.0 and i still type faster in portrait mode than in landscape mode i think the extra space slows me down since im so used to the portrait mode but i can see were it would benefit a lot of people.
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by May 12, 2009 11:57 AM PDT
my typing is fine on my iPhone. i see no reason for it to have a keyboard
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by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
perhaps if you are out in the sun where you cant see much of the screen?

.....oh wait..........you probably dont get out much.....nevermind then :)
by darkpoet25 May 13, 2009 8:20 PM PDT
It appears you yourself don't get out much, if you are on here replying to every comment where someone says they prefer typing on their iPhone. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?
by lawgone May 14, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
Oh snap! LOL
by thinkhector May 12, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
I have found from experience in teaching other people to use the iPhone keyboard that most don't know how it works because they treat it like a physical keyboard. The trick to typing on the iPhone is that your not pressing down to select on a letter but lifting your finger up to select! Try this if you are having trouble, put your finger on the keyboard, now, slide it all around and you will see you can pick any letter you want without selecting it until you lift your finger up on the right letter. That should help anyone who has struggled with the onscreen keys.
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by SkateNY May 12, 2009 9:28 PM PDT
Nice tip!
by rgash11 May 12, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
I think the iPhone keyboard as it it is works just fine. The only thing I could ask for is landscape mode for texting, which they are adding in 3.0 OS update. It auto corrects words if you hit the key next to the one you were trying to hit. I can text much faster on my iphone using the touch screen than any keyboard on any other phone
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by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:41 PM PDT
mhm.....because you've used every other keyboard on every other phone
by jamesgunaca May 12, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
I agree with some of the comments above:

1) Enough with useless stories about the iPhone keyboard. How many times are you going to write about this? It is QUITE obvious Apple won't change the iPhone to have a physical keyboard. Typical Apple - they know their technology

2) Yes, landscape will help. But at the same time, you have to do two different sets of muscle training with your fingers since they are essentially two different sized keyboards. The option is nice, though. And I do think people will find typing in landscape a bit faster and more accurate since the space between keys isn't so small.

3) For anyone having trouble with typing on a virtual keyboard, download a typing app. If you're the type of user to use two fingers on a REAL keyboard on a computer then you are just too lazy to take a typing class (there are free online ones everywhere). iPhone has typing apps too (idle hands is one I know of) to train. Practice = muscle training. I can type on my iPhone at about 50wpm with ~90% accuracy. Just takes practice!
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by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:43 PM PDT
see heres the problem....you have to take personal typing lessons to get good at typing on the iphone! it took me 5 minutes to start tying at a decent speed with a blackberry. people dont want a device that they have to have "training" to use
by pinefreshly May 12, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
I have big fingers and learned to type with the side of my thumbs. Not the whole thumb. Now when I use a physical keyboard it feels weird. Landscape typing will be way better and the letters are the same size if not bigger on the iphone. When will people realize, Apple will not be beaten by a phone that only mimicks them.
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by mediocrates--2008 May 12, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
Virtual keyboards are barely adequate - but teeny physical keyboards are totally useless as far as I'm concerned. There's nothing I need to say that can't wait for an available desktop anyhow. Texting has to be about the worst evil inflicted on mankind since country & western music.
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by subie09lega May 12, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
I agree that tiny keyboards (Palm Centro) are worthless. My sister and friend each have one; to watch them type on that thing is hilarious. They have to use their fingernails to press the keys.
by RKRKAR May 12, 2009 6:15 PM PDT
Best & most intelligent comment in this string. Congratulations! RKRKAR
by paulimusmaximus May 13, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
I disagree. I am 6ft 5in, and have really big hands, and I can type with ease on my env2, and that keyboard is definitely not the biggest keyboard around. I think it's all about the spacing, the keys on the env2 are spaced far enough apart that you can hit the right key without accidentally hitting the key beside it. Would I write a term paper on it, of course not, but for texting and email, I don't have any problems with small keyboards. And you say they're useless, but if I can text someone real quick rather than wasting time calling them, it saves me a ton of time.
by May 12, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
can't beat the flush, clean look of no keyboard.

i'm virtual all the way.

i've gotten pretty fast if i do say so myself...
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by adamk1101 May 12, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
Until it has a keyboard, it can't be considered a smartphone.
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by DOGLLAMA May 12, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
it does have a keyboard. you just have to be smart enough to turn it on.
by montex66 May 12, 2009 6:08 PM PDT
That is just a completely stupid thing to claim. But something I'd expect from a typical PC enthusiast who is more concerned with all the hardware specs than they are with what the device can actually do. These are the same people who say the iPod is a failure because it doesn't have an AM/FM radio in it.
by seven7dust May 12, 2009 11:31 PM PDT
and the award for stupidest comment of the day goes to adamk1101 !
by curtiskelowna May 13, 2009 7:51 PM PDT
actually he's right...the first smartphones were known as smartphones for their "FULL KEYBOARD" The iphone.....meh..........its ok but it doesnt seem like a true smart phone without a tactile keyboard. Its kinda like a male crossdresser. Its still got the makings of a smartphone under the hood but on the surface it looks no smarter than pam anderson
by DOGLLAMA May 13, 2009 8:07 PM PDT
it does have a full keyboard, it is just a virtual keyboard. computers used to count 1's and 0's by reading punch cards, but they evolved onto a digital frontier. its the same with the iphone and tough luck, its just the beginning, so if you don't like it, you can go hang out at the Creationism Museum and chat about how great 8 tracks were....
by adamk1101 May 14, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
In response to montex66: ("That is just a completely stupid thing to claim. But something I'd expect from a typical PC enthusiast "),

I'm a mac user actually. I use a mac pro and a macbook pro for my job as a systems admin. I simply need a real smartphone that helps me get my work done rather than kill time with pointless apps, so I use a blackberry 9000 (bold). Also, for what it's worth, I have an iPhone 3G which I got through work but other than the browser, I don't find much use for it so I don't use it. And the iPod is not a failure. I have the 160gb classic and I LOVE it.
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