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Keyboard for Apple tablet already here?

by David Carnoy
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Recently, my colleague Rafe Needleman wrote a column titled "Why consumers won't buy tablets." The article was a direct reference to the long-standing rumor that Apple may be releasing a slate-style, jumbo iPod Touch this fall. Rafe doesn't really believe Apple would be misguided enough to release a tablet and that if it does put one out in the rumored $700 to $800 price range, "it will die." He also believes that, "This whole category is a nonstarter."

I tend to agree with Rafe on a lot of his points. I think tablets and tweener devices--like Ultra Mobile PCs (UMPCs)--that are too big to put in your pocket, cumbersome to operate, and overpriced, are problematic and have no place in the marketplace.

The reason why Netbooks have been successful is that they're cheap, and their form factor makes sense, especially for those looking to take a basic, lightweight computer out with them on the road--or just out to the patio. It's a pretty simple equation and you'd think that Apple would just follow the Netbook trend and come out with something that didn't break the mold but was sexier, a little zippier, and cost an extra $100-$200 in so-called Apple tax. What I'm talking about is a 10-inch $600-$700 Apple Netbook with a keyboard.

Alas, that probably won't cut it for Apple. Low-end computers just aren't in the company's DNA, so rumor has it we're looking at a $700-$800 tablet, which, to guys like Rafe and me, doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense. But at same time I also have enough faith in Apple to realize that if it's going to come out with such a product, it's probably going change the tablet's paradigm to the point where it suddenly makes abundant sense.

To a degree, this is what Brooke Crothers argued in his piece, "Why an Apple tablet will succeed." It was meant to be a counterpoint to Rafe's article and featured some potential specs for a fantasy tablet of the near future. I appreciate Brooke's point of view as well.

As the rumors and concept images continue to swirl, much of the debate around Apple's rumored device has focused on the touch screen and the prospect of typing on a virtual keyboard, much like one does with the iPhone and iPod Touch, which some users view as mini tablets. However, it's hard to imagine that this would be the best experience for doing serious work, and I know lots of people who still struggle with the iPhone's keyboard (my father owns an iPhone and it's a little bit painful to watch him type on it).

But as Rafe pointed out, there's another possibility. "Of course," he wrote, "you'll probably be able to plug a keyboard into any of these yet-to-be-released tablets...but you'll pay extra for the hardware and it'll mean more gear to keep track of and prop up on your desk."

To some it would seem incongruous for Apple to put out a keyboardless device that would have an optional keyboard (The Newton had one, which is maybe why Steve Jobs hated it). That said, there are a lot of folks who wouldn't mind using a wireless Bluetooth keyboard to connect to their iPhones or iPod Touchs, but Apple has yet to offer the Bluetooth-keyboard profile that would allow you to do it. So why would it allow it with a larger, jumbo iPod Touch?

Because it has to. The only way for an Apple slate-style Netbook to succeed at the price point we're looking at is for it to be a flexible device that can appeal to a wide range of users and usage scenarios. In short, it will be what you want to it to be. (One reader suggests that Apple call it the Omni, which isn't bad).

At home, it will be a media pad you can take to bed with you. On the road, it'll be a Netbook during the day (I'd like to see kickstand on the back) and an e-book reader and video phone at night. At school, students will use it was a digital notepad. In the car, it's a game machine for the kiddies.

Can't you see the Apple ads already?

And one more thing: I'd venture to say that the keyboard (virtual or physical) and stylus won't be the only way to navigate the device or input information. If you've been following what Apple's been doing with voice commands on the Shuffle and iPhone/iPod Touch, it's obviously been experimenting with voice operation as an interface. At some point, you'll not only be able to playback tracks in iTunes (like you can now) with your voice, but you'll be able to open and close applications, browse webpages, dictate email, and do even more.

For now, though, I could make do with an optional keyboard. And it's already here, both in a wired and wireless version. I just hope Apple allows me to use it.

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    by August 11, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
    Works great with Windows 7 and my Fujitsu Stylistic SLATE. Vista would have a BT auth fail and infinite key repeat error every few minutes.
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    by empirestatebuddy August 12, 2009 4:20 PM PDT
    The way to fix the Tablet vs Netbook problem is to have TWO SCREENS.

    So, basically, you'll have a standard netbook with an extra screen on the outside. When the book is open, the outer screen shuts off to conserve power. But when you close the book, the outer screen turns on and you can write on it, etc.

    Without two screens, I see this as an Apple-sized iFlop.
    by dannosliwcd August 12, 2009 7:05 PM PDT
    OR: instead of wasting all that space with the redundant screen hardware, continue what's already been done with tablets for years. Both the fold/swivel and the pop-off designs seem to work effectively.
    by mavfan2 October 12, 2009 2:04 PM PDT
    right, my lenovo x61t tablet is like any standard 12" notebook but when I want to use as a tablet I simply twist the screen and close it and can write on it as a tablet. There's no need for two screens.
    by Vegaman_Dan August 11, 2009 3:31 PM PDT
    The problem with a separate keyboard is that now you have to either carry a stand with you to hold the tablet at a convenient viewing angle or find things to prop it up to a usable position, hoping it doesn't slide back down with a damage-causing thump.

    Pure tablets have had this problem inherent in the design. Those that have keyboards that are removable like the HP TC1000 series were a bit more successful, but still limited and awkward.
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    by crazycarl42 August 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT
    I have a TC1100, there is nothing awkward about the keyboard. In fact I think it is one of the greatest designs in a portable computer ever. I refresh of the TC1100 with modern hardware would be awesome.
    by thEDavE August 12, 2009 6:17 AM PDT
    how about a slide out keyboard, like we see on some phones now. the keyboard apple uses right now on the desktops is nice and thin and light. just a though. i know i'd like that more than carrying around a separate keyboard.
    by myles taylor August 12, 2009 7:22 AM PDT
    I actually just had this idea where the current bluetooth keyboard could fit on a hinge on the bottom of the tablet. It would fold out and you would have a keyboard in a sort of netbook fashion. Or you could lean it back and use it as a stand. When not in use, it would fit snugly into the back of the tablet and be out of the way.

    Just a thought...I'm sure there are a few reasons why this wouldn't work.
    by renGek August 12, 2009 9:49 AM PDT
    This new tablet from archos (still not yet release) has a simple low tech solution. Its got a kick stand
    http://www.archos.com/products/nb/archos_9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
    by PineappleUnderTheSea August 12, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
    The main issue will be glare: if you're using the built-in touch keyboard while the tablet is lying flat on a table, you'll likely get tons of glare from the lights, and you'll have to hunch over at weird angles to defeat that. So the only way around that would be an external keyboard, and an adjustable kickstand on the tablet (since, I assume, you wouldn't use the touch keyboard while the tablet is at an angle, it would kill your wrists).

    This makes me think a tablet would be mostly a toy, great for short bursts of emails or games, but you're not going to write a novel on it. And there's probably a nice market for that.
    by La_Mont August 11, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
    What do you mean it is already here? It should be included in the box.
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    by WickedRabbit August 11, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
    My main concern is that I - as well as many other people I associate with - do not want to carry "more" equipment around. An optional keyboard would essentially be a deal breaker. The idea nowadays is to simplify and limit the amount of products you carry, not add to it.

    Arguably, I think a tablet is a bad idea. Tablet market is scarce for a reason: they suck. They are big, they are bulky and at most of their price points for the better ones you might as well just scrap the touchscreen and get a good quality notebook.

    Apple, though, would more than likely just Honey I Blew Up The Kids to an iPhone and call it a day. This wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, though, seeing as how the iPhone OS is quite nice. I look at myself as someone who's been intrigued by a netbook and has even considered buying one at several points because I travel around and also would like something small to carry into the living room. A giant iPhone would be a pretty good alternative to boring netbook's and ultimately I view it as just being a wireless media pad for the home or when I'm on the road.

    The problem comes in when I think about typing. iPhone typing isn't exactly the most accurate thing out there and pretty much everyone I know cannot type accurately on that thing despite having it for multiple years. Apple's spell correction software is excellent and corrects most mistakes quite well, but it also gets in the way a lot of times by replacing actual words with other words that you didn't want. Seeing as how there's no customizable dictionary, this could possibly create a huge problem for an iPhone tablet because the typing experience would not fare well against a netbook with a physical keyboard in a more grueling typing environment. While it would be fine for typing in URL's in your browser, trying to open Office or iWork and sitting down and banging out some documents might get a bit difficult and if the only alternative is to pull out yet 'another' thing to carry - the keyboard - then I think most consumers would just opt for what will more than likely be a $400+ less netbook.

    The idea for an Apple tablet is to "replace" the need to buy a netbook. Having to carry around an optional keyboard doesn't really do that and the only people that will find it as a reasonable solution are the current Mac customers who are drinking Steve's personal Apple flavored Kool-Aid. You know, the people that paid $2,000+ for the world's most overpriced netbook: the MacBook Air and are lugging around 'extra' equipment, such as optical drives.
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    by kelmon August 12, 2009 1:37 AM PDT
    I continue to argue that the fundamental flaw with Tablet PCs today is that most software is written to be interacted with via a keyboard and mouse and that they do not consider touch, except for those rare applications specifically written for the Tablet PC. In order for the Tablet PC concept to work they need software written specifically for the platform and the hardware that it provides. However, I entirely agree that additional, "optional", hardware is a very bad idea since it cannot be depended on to be present and the hardware MUST be designed to provide everything that is necessary to use the platform. Simply thinking that users will use an external keyboard simply dodges the fundamental issue.
    by KillersDad August 11, 2009 3:55 PM PDT
    I could use the tablet with my Apple Mini Aluminum Keyboard. I use the mini keyboard now with my MacBook Pro.

    It's hard to share the screen with other people unless, I carry my mini-keyboard which fits right in the Incase pocket next to the computer and my wireless Mighty Mouse.
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    by tadbittipsy August 11, 2009 4:03 PM PDT
    If Apple is smart they'll have an attachable keyboard that's ultra thin, that is either a separate accessory or just comes with the tablet. Always Innovating had one of these, was a nice touch but kind of big. If Apple could keep the size of both together around the size of the Macbook Air, I'd buy it in a second, just to have a small carry around. Personally I think the no keyboard thing is overrated. If I can do most of my surfing and fun stuff on this type of portable, I'd be happy. If your going to be typing out a book get a bigger laptop it's that simple. Quit confusing Net with Lap and learn that these are designed to do only a certain amount of things, they're supposed to be "Extra" or "2nd" computers, duh.....
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    by streamline35 August 11, 2009 6:14 PM PDT
    The difference is you can type fine on a netbook. You can't on a tablet. I can actually type faster on my netbook than desktop, just because there is less travel for my fingers, it just results in a slightly higher error rate (which is quite low anyways)
    by emil serban August 11, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
    All you need is a nice clip-on holder that attaches to the keyboard. If properly designed, it would seamlessly transform the tablet in a net-book with one of the best looking keyboards out there. I wouldn't add anything to the back of the tablet. The clip-on should also swivel and hide under the keyboard to keep the keyboard small and portable. The tablet will run OSX compatible s/w and will certainly have bluetooth. There is no reason for Apple to try to prohibit the use of it's own keyboard but I won't be surprised to see a smaller keyboard specifically designed for the tablet that would make an otherwise beautiful keyboard look like an afterthought...
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    by Hep Cat August 11, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
    "it's obviously been experimenting with voice operation as an interface"

    And if you'd been paying attention, you'd know that they've been shipping this kind of integration since 1992.
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    by dcarnoy August 11, 2009 6:16 PM PDT
    Yes, I know. We're talking well into next-generation here.
    by Thor92519 August 11, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
    I currently have a macbook pro 17 inch. I love it but but when I am not doing some of the more powerful applications I do not need to have such a large computer around. I am a substitute teacher and like to check e-mail and other web ideas while I am at school. I think that a smaller tablet device would work great so long as it had a couple different plug ins. USB and Ethernet are all I would need on it. The new small bluetooth keyboards are very thin and could be used for anything more that I may need. I love the idea and hope that apple does it right with the touch screen, I think they will because of their past success.
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    by gsp100677 August 11, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
    What would be really cool, is if they could find some elegant way to have a slimline slide-out keyboard - kinda like some mobile phones have (like the Nokia N97).
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    by RicardoPorto August 11, 2009 9:42 PM PDT
    You just wrote what I've be thinking since apple tablet rumors beggined.
    It would solve the need for tablet standing as well.

    Thanks, gsp100677!

    + e-book reader (e-ink tech) and snow leopard. BTW, isn't that the new macbook (white)? It's not time for multitouching screens gets the mac computers (even desktops)?
    by QA_Tester August 11, 2009 4:41 PM PDT
    I'd like to see 12" macbook come back as a netbook. 2ghz quad core processor, 4GB RAM, 128GB flash hard drive, 128MB dedicated video memory and a few external ports like firewire and usb.. All of this for about $400. Portable, powerfull and well priced.
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    by ballmerisanape August 11, 2009 5:01 PM PDT
    this is why I love my 12 inch PowerBook. still gets 4 hours of battery, 4 lbs, 1 inch thick, SuperDrive, FireWire, Usb2, full keyboard, ect... and runs 10.5 like a champ.

    I bought it in 2003.
    by streamline35 August 11, 2009 7:32 PM PDT
    Easily the dumbest post of the thread. They already have this - it's called a macbook air. Of course the specs are lower, the price is $1500-$1800, and it barely has any ports.

    BTW, anyway idea how much a mobile core 2 quad 2GHz (q9000) costs? Upwards of $400.
    How about a 128GB SSD? Upwards of $250 on newegg.

    I believe I made my point.
    by GenevaShen August 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT
    Don't laugh, guys. All you have to do is wait a decade, or two. Remember what was "impossible" 15 years ago?

    Around 1995, the PowerBook had 25 or 33 MHz, 4MB RAM could be increased to 36 (note: 'M', not 'G'), 120MB HD could be 0.5GB, 9.5" screen, first-ever trackpad, running the latest OS 7, costing well over $2000 (in them-days-dollars).

    But the waiting is so hard. In the meantime...???
    by gsp100677 August 11, 2009 4:47 PM PDT
    Sometimes peopel overthink waht magic new thing Apple might be about to offer...I remember last year there were rumours of Apple investigating capacative touch technology incorporating glass, & people got all excited thinking a tablet or touchscreen Air was in the works - & it turned out it was just a glass touchpad they came out with.

    I wonder if after all these rumours and ideas of fancy solutions, they'll just go for something that turns out to be much simpler & less revolutionary than everyone's thinking - like maybe a simplified Macbook Air with its screen made touch sensitive & a swipe navigable dashboard that's a cross between the usual OS X dashboard with widgets, and the iPhone home with pages of app icons? After all, the Air is plenty slim enough even with an integrated keyboard.
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    by tojoe_dotmac August 11, 2009 5:02 PM PDT
    1. The iMAC-Net will have just under 10" screen. 1.5 to 1.8 lbs. $699.
    2. Have on screen touch typing. for class, bed, patio, backseat.
    3. Have bluetooth keyboard/Trackpad/Stand optional. for home or office.
    4. Have 24" LED screen optional. for home or office, when you want/need/can afford it.
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    by StevieD377 August 11, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
    There are some things I hear that just for whatever reason don't sound very Apple-like.

    A kick-stand and an attachable keyboard are two such items. My guess is, it'll either be one solid piece or have an extremely sturdy hinge. Just my 2 cents.
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    by tojoe_dotmac August 11, 2009 5:43 PM PDT
    I'm envisioning simply a cut out slot across the back of the keyboard/Trackpad. The bottom edge of the screen slips through at just the right angle to balance using its own weight to hold it still on a desk.
    by amirault0 August 11, 2009 7:13 PM PDT
    I think if they do make a tablet/netbook they need to make it completely functional without a physical keyboard, only the on-screen one. Then they should make a detachable keyboard that would turn it into more of a netbook than a tablet.
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    by gwailo247 August 11, 2009 7:54 PM PDT
    ...and then when you want to burn something you can attach a drive...then you can clip on an extra battery pack, and then...

    A tablet is a tablet. If you can't make it function in its inherent form and function, then perhaps the time is not yet here. Its not something you're going to be typing your project or research paper on, and it won't be something that's going to be your primary computer by any stretch of the imagination.

    While I'm sure it can have a lot of commercial adaptations, its essential use will be casual home browsing. I would venture to guess that most tablet buyers already have a desktop PC as well as a laptop. The tablet would probably end up as a casual internet/recreational device. Essentially a laptop without the keyboard and the heavy duty hardware.

    You'll check your favorite sites on it, update your various crack addictions, play some light games, watch some videos or play some music. I'm sure you can use it to type your doctoral thesis, but an ergonomically placed keyboard and full size monitor will make your task more comfortable.

    People that will buy this will have the disposable income to spend on this, just as much as on any product. It will not be a huge hit, but it will be profitable enough, as most of its target audience just happens to have a disposable income.

    But once you start adding on peripherals to it, you make it something else. Apple will probably be better off being closer to $500 than $1000. Cause as you start getting closer to $1000 you start feeling the need to pretty up the specs, which then turns it into something that its not.
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    by FormerPCwonk August 11, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
    Ultimately, if the columnists at CNET or any other tech blog knew as much as they'd like us to think they do, they'd be working in the industry and not just talking about it.
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    by fleurya August 12, 2009 9:49 AM PDT
    hey big talker, what do you do for al iving???
    by crazycarl42 August 11, 2009 9:41 PM PDT
    Tablets don't belong in the market place? Really? In my view there is a huge untapped market for tablets--students. The issue with the tablets out there is they haven't had the correct form factor, and they really only have been marketed to the business segment.

    I have a HP TC1100 that I use for taking notes in class which is especially useful for math and science courses where typing equations is a bit challenging. The TC1100 has a great form factor, and I think it is the perfect form factor for the student/education market. With a removable key board it can serve as a very portable laptop or as a stand alone slate for taking notes, reading articles and text books, or doing homework assignments. If HP or Apple released something similar with current hardware I think it would be a huge seller.
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    by icemanx1979 August 11, 2009 9:53 PM PDT
    having to carry a keyboard would be a pain, typing with the virtual keyboard is an even bigger pain, but the way things are going for apple they are going the virtual route, less is more apparently at apple
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    by tegar--2008 August 11, 2009 10:34 PM PDT
    Here's a thought or two? OK maybe three.

    An ultra thin OLED screen that disconnect to reveal a bluetooth keyboard that can either snap onto a hinging system to make it a netbook, or there is a foldout stand on the back of the screen similar to a normal picture frame to make it into a standing monitor.

    Or like above a think OLED screen that slides up horizontally and and then hinges into a netbook revealing the keyboard. You could still have the option of disconnecting the screen with the fold out stand to act as a bluetooth monitor.

    Or finally it could be a netbook design that you open then release the monitor's hinge to lay flat and slide horizontally over the keyboard to create a tablet. (The nice thing about this one is it would protect the screen from damage when not in use.)
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