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August 20, 2009 9:46 AM PDT

AT&T steps up 850MHz spectrum upgrade for enhanced 3G

by David Martin
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AT&T has taken a lot of flack from iPhone users about the trouble its network has handling the iPhone's data-heavy needs. AT&T's network has been blamed repeatedly for poor call quality and dropped calls as well as for a rash of iTunes App Store rejections that included apps like Qik (where live streaming was a no-show) and Slingplayer (which isn't allowed to sling anything over 3G).

Now, AT&T has stepped up its activation of its 850MHz spectrum service, which should improve 3G coverage in metropolitan areas. AT&T expects the project to be completed over the course of a year, and Mobiledia has reported that AT&T has started the much-anticipated upgrade in Atlanta this week. (A visit to AT&T's corporate Web site confirms the Atlanta upgrade and previous improvements over the summer in Fresno, Calif., Las Vegas, San Diego, and Stockton, Calif., but the site does not mention its time line for 850MHz network upgrades in other urban areas.)

Atlanta's AT&T customers will be served by the addition of 540 cell sites that will increase network capacity and coverage, resulting in "improved quality and in-building coverage." These new cell sites will operate alongside the old, 1,900MHz spectrum cell sites.

Keith Holmes, AT&T's vice president and general manager, said "We're enhancing our network every day to help customers do more with and get more from their wireless connections."

TechCrunch has also reported AT&T service improvements in the SoMa district of San Francisco.

The activation of the enhanced network is good news, but is it to little too late or even enough? Have you seen improved AT&T service in your area? Let us know in the comments.

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by rob21i August 20, 2009 10:24 AM PDT
Any info on phoenix??
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by Enitaplap August 20, 2009 10:31 AM PDT
Haven't heard this one before!

"Whats about Okiehoma City???"
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by lakkus August 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
i haven't. is it a joke?
by BigdawgOKC October 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
My iPhone 3G garbles conversations just like my first digital cell phone 16 years ago here in OKC. I have full bars but it garbles half the conversation. There should be a class action lawsuit. In my opinion AT&T has broken their contract with us since the phone doesn't deliver consistent and reliable phone service.
by August 20, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
that's great. how about MMS on the iPhone?
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by jgvillan August 23, 2009 9:44 PM PDT
Yes, give MMS NOW!!!!!!
by jbaesman August 20, 2009 10:41 AM PDT
I work on contract in Atlanta and have had an iPhone for 9 months now. I didn't understand everyone's complaining until a recent trip to Chicago -- ATT service there is hideous with drop calls, lack of any sort of data connection, etc. While I haven't noticed too many differences with the service in Atlanta due to the upgrade, I can say regionally it is a good provider here. It seems to be more of a regional issue and likely based on the effectiveness of management in different areas.
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by tcr071 August 20, 2009 7:46 PM PDT
Lucky you. I've been in Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Portland, and many other cities and wished I hadn't signed a two year contract. As we speak I'm watching a simple text message fail to send over - and - over - and - over - again. Not an MMS, not a video, not an email... just a simple text message. Not to mention the fact that I can't get across Dallas on a major interstate high way talking on the phone without the call dropping at least three times during the 30 mile trip. I guess an uninterrupted phone call is too much to ask with AT&T. When I had Verizon I was surprised when a call was dropped but with AT&T I'm EXPECTING it.

And while Verizon and Sprint are busily rolling out their fourth generation lines AT&T is desperately trying to shore up it's 3G lines. Just down right pathetic but I think the market will begin to speak for itself. I know I will not be extending my contract with AT&T no matter if they are the exclusive carrier of the iPhone or not. The iPhone is a great device but as a phone, thanks to AT&T, it is subpar AT BEST. I would gladly give away my iPhone if it meant I could end my AT&T contract tomorrow. I'd go over to Sprint or T-Mobile and hook my iPhone right back up.
by ChicagoSteven August 21, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
I have lived in Chicago my entire life and I have used two mobile providers T-Mobile and AT&T. By far AT&T has been the better service provider. I have excellent coverage throughout the entire city while outdoors, and the reception in my house is excellent near windows.

However, my brother has Verizon and he doesn't see to experience any better or worse luck with his service. Thereare certain areas where I get better coverage and vice versa. Although one thing I can say is that my iPhone 3GS is way cooler than his Blackberry. :)
by Snowbird21 August 20, 2009 10:44 AM PDT
What about Vermont?
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by Joebobjoebob August 20, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
What about New Hampshire? What about Maine?
AT&T has improved from Cingular but, not by much.
The business customer service line is finally competent but, a solid and reliable business shouldn't need much customer service.
AT&T can advertise and announce improvements all they want but, I don't see AT&T matching Verizon coverage/performance anytime soon.
A dual mode (global) Verizon iPhone would make me switch back.
For now I deal with Edge crap while paying $10 for 3G I seldom get to use.
by El Cacique August 23, 2009 5:39 AM PDT
Joebobjoebob,

Just in case you are not aware of it, the new AT&T is still Cingular. They just switched their name when their parent company purchased AT&T including the right to use the AT&T brand. That is why they still suck!
by cyclonica1980 August 20, 2009 11:03 AM PDT
Too late to care. I terminated ages ago. iPhone when you come to Verizon we shall meet again.
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by anilsudh August 20, 2009 6:21 PM PDT
It will never come to Verizon as long as they are on CDMA.
by steel36 August 21, 2009 5:12 AM PDT
Wrong. It will come to Verizon when they debut their 4G network early next year and current iPhone/ATT subscribers will wonder what they're supposed to do w/ the brick they're holding.
by bigmc6000 August 21, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
haha, that's funny steel! You do realize that speed only matters if your computer/cell phone is good enough to handle the speed right? There's a reason loading a webpage via tethering on your laptop is quicker than loading it on your phone.

You can keep Verizon and their crippling stranglehold over their phones - they make Apple's approval process for Apps look like the best thing in the world!
by tedsc September 28, 2009 12:58 AM PDT
Verizon is apparently all about the network alright and they protect network bandwidth by offering phones with limited functionality. If they ever did strike an iphone deal they would hamstring the device so much it would negate the point of having one.

It's like being given access to a formula 1 track and told to go crazy on your moped....
by dewebsurphur August 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
Dont expect AT&T to layout 3G in cities where it has least subscribers,Even when it is time for 4G these cities will still remain to be edge.
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by metomjr August 20, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
I've been happy with my T-Mobile 3G coverage in the burbs north of Minneapolis.
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by August 20, 2009 12:12 PM PDT
Got my text from AT&T around 3:00 saying they just updated their services in the ATL!
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by parismetro August 20, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
Well, I'm in SOMA. I called AT&T to complain about dropped calls and slow/non-existent 3G signal and was told that several cell towers in the area were down, with no information on when they plan to have them repaired. Same for an area in the east bay I frequent. So I have to pay full price for lousy coverage. 5-bars? I don't think so. Dunno why Apple chose AT&T as their exclusive Iphone service provider -- what a disapointment. Can't wait for my contract to expire so I can go back to Verizon and my Blackberry!~
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by bigjoemann August 20, 2009 4:42 PM PDT
That's funny. I live in the North Bay, which was upgraded to 3G about 2 years ago. I consider our 3G speeds great, especially with HSDPA turned on. 3G Service in SF used to be great, until the iPhone 3G came along. On recent trips to AT&T park, I have noticed speeds that are less than EDGE. Even in SF on days when there is no Giants game, download speeds are slow.

My point is that a network might be fast now, but if a high data usage device, like the iPhone 3G, comes out, you will notice your speeds dropping rapidly as the popularity increases. Now that Blackberry has finally come out with 3G devices in the past year, I would be curious to see how data speeds have changed, if at all, since their deployment. How has Sprint's network performance changed since the Pre was released?

Having additional spectrums for 3G is great, but will the towers be able to support the demand for high data use?
by yahoo!!! August 21, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
just unlock the phone
by arlesxyz August 20, 2009 12:21 PM PDT
The only reason to be with AT&T is for the iPhone. The service isn't reliable with regard to data transmission, and call quality is not on par with competitors, particularly Verizon. It will be interesting to see if iPhone users defect to other carriers once the exclusive arrangement between Apple and ATT&T terminates. Perhaps the rollout of 4G will change the dynamics among carriers.
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by steel36 August 21, 2009 5:14 AM PDT
Yeah, I think ATT has actually hurt itself in the long run by having the iPhone and failing so miserably. Many people who defect from them years ago rejoined for the iPhone. Their experiences have been so poor that when they leave this time for Verizon or Sprint, they're likely to never return. ATT will soon wonder why their church rate is dropping and people are leaving, but no one is joining.
by GarrettTV August 20, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
I live in Chicago and work right downtown in the loop. for as long as i have had my iphone, i got no service whatsoever in my building, specifically at my desk. Literally overnight, about 2 months ago, i suddenly started getting completely full, "5-bar" service with what seems to be full-strength 3G service. Kudos to at&t for this. The service here is comparable to my old Verizon service, but both lacked strong signal in my apartment, and still do...I look forward to upgrades for sure.
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by cohenben August 21, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
I'm actually a new AT&T customer (1 week) so take what I say for what it's worth... I switched from Verizon. I live in Chicago and so far my AT&T service can only be described as perfect. I notice that nobody clarifies if they have the 3G, 3GS or first gen iPhone when posting complaints. If you have the 1st Gen iphone still, I would expect a lot more dropped calls and slower service than the 3Gs... why? Well, it's like expecting a V4 engine to have the same pick-up as a V8! In my first week on AT&T I've had no dropped calls, satisfactory data speed, etc. Again, I've only had AT&T for a short time so we'll see if I come back to these forums in a year as angry as everyone else. Verizon service was amazing and I do admit that if the iPhone was available on VZW I would never have switched to AT&T. BUT ? Verizon isn't perfect - I had the occasional dropped call (who knows if it was my phone or the other person's phone, though?). I wanted the iPhone because I was not excited about any of VZW's smartphones or blackberry options and their customer service was very frustrating - to the point that recently they actually made me excited to switch to a new carrier.

Of course, all the negativity towards AT&T must come from somewhere, so I do believe that people are having serious issues. I also think that a lot of these people simply talk on their phone too much (or have the 1st Gen iPhone). Like the guy who said he can't drive 30 miles across Dallas without his iPhone dropping calls 3 times? I mean c'mon you nut - 30 miles on the phone while your driving? I hope you hit a telephone pole - the irony would kill me (and you).

Why did I switch and why did I switch now? Aside from desperately needing a phone with email capabilities to help run my business, I figured that signing a 2-year contract now will allow me to do the following:
Assuming Verizon, Sprint or T-Mobile somehow get the iPhone or a different Apple phone device in the next year, people will leave AT&T and AT&T's service will likely either get a boost from less usage or the company will makes significant upgrades to try and keep customers. I can then wait one more year to see if in fact this new iPhone on another service is actually much better and switch back when my contract is up - or if AT&T makes improvements I'll just stay. In addition, if VZW gets the iPhone and it is actually much better than AT&T's iPhone to the point that I want to switch back right away, I'll sell my iPhone 3GS to help pay for the buyout on my remaining months with AT&T and then go back to VZW. Don't let the cell phone companies control you ? do what you want and quit stressing out, everybody.
by Joey_Rizzo August 20, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
I had talked to an ATT rep about 5 months ago and they were explaining the project to me.I have seen a slight improvement over the months. For instance, i have full bars on the HDSPA band in Buckhead ( Financial Distract just outside downtown) However, there have been data outages which have been annoying here and there.
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by fajing2 August 20, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
I wish the Iphone showed the HDSPA coverage icon.
by fajing2 August 20, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
Got my text from AT&T about improved coverage this afternoon as well 3pm EST, but have yet to see any improvement. My signal constantly drifts from GPRS, to EDGE, to 3G...never anything consistent and never lasts long.
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by ogilicious August 20, 2009 9:24 PM PDT
i got this text too for astoria/long island city (queens, ny) at the beginning of june. the service improved for about 2 weeks (i could actually make a phone call in parts of my apartment) and then it went back to nothing. at&t is the worst possible thing that happened to the mobile world. i had t-mobile for 3 years before that (i tend to stick to gsm) and, in nyc, they're significantly better than at&t.
by Tony59 August 20, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
I live in Little Rock Arkansas, AT&T has great service here. And I have traveled all over the nation, and I always have great signal. And I have an iPhone 3G. All these people that bash AT&T need a life, Get out in the real world and test these phones and stuff, Not just in downtown San Francisco CA.
And sure AT&T doesn't have all the towers they needs, but they are working as fast as they can.(And NO I don't work for AT&T)
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by Levair1968 August 20, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
To Tony59,

Read your comments about AT&T. Consider yourself lucky. I am a field engineer for a telecom company that actually "tests" carrier's cell sites for 911 operability, accuracy and compliance. My job is to actually canvass and cover all areas of any market I test, be it rural or urban/suburban. Let me tell you, these folks are not bashing AT&T unjustly! You say you've been all over the nation, but I'd be willing to bet that my comprehensive coverage of the nation is more extensive than most.

When we test a market (which usually comprises multiple counties, and in some cases, states) we literally cover from the back of your house to the buildings of downtown. AT&T has one of the worst coverages and reliable networks of any of the major carriers. So much so, that our testing partners (another engineering company) required my company to change our mobile phones to Verizon or come up with a suitable solution (our business mobiles are AT&T)! At times our phones wouldn't even switch to extended carriers or extended networks and would just drop. I've been in downtown cities with no signal while our verizon testing phones would hum right along. I've been in rural areas, literally yards from a tower and our phones would drop the call or take several minutes to switch to the extended network before being usable, hence the ultimatum from our engineering partner. Keep in mind that testing carrier's networks (for 911) is what we do. Our company has since made arrangements to use our personal phones provided they are Verizon. I've experienced this poor reliability with AT&T for the past 3 1/2 years working this position. Consider yourself lucky. These are not trumped up accusations.

You can consider this the cat's meow for any out there who thinks AT&T is as good as their commercials!!! They ARE NOT! But, in a big twist of irony, I have just moved to AT&T (reluctantly, I might add) due to the ultra-compelling iPhone. In my opinion, it is the MOST technological device on this planet. The 3GS being my first ever iphone, I'm still in awe of the device. It is the closest thing to Star Trek's Tricorder that there is.
by LosAngeles41 August 20, 2009 11:58 PM PDT
I too have traveled about the country and found AT&T service to be good in places. However, those who are complaining are real people with real experiences in real places. Los Angeles and San Francisco are major population centers. I have been to Little Rock and it is a nice city. The number of subscribers per square mile there is just a fraction of the number of subscribers in a major metro area such as Los Angeles. I have service on both AT&T and Verizion. I kept my Verizion service when I purchased my iPhone just because of the problems of connectivity and frequent dropped calls on my iPhone. In fact, I tell everybody to call me on the Verizon line. The iPhone is an amazing device, too bad AT&T is not equal to it.
by JDnLex August 20, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
I noticed a drastic improvement at my workplace in Lexington, KY last week. I went from 2 bars of Edge coverage indoors to full strength 3G. The difference was amazing. I upgraded from an original iPhone to a 3GS in June and was very disappointed to discover that I was still using Edge at work but paying extra each month for it. With the upgrade, everything is good now, at least where I live and work.
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by libertyforall1776 August 20, 2009 1:12 PM PDT
How about better HSPA coverage! i.e. to truly take advantage of the radio in the iPhone 3GS!?
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by KECHKen August 20, 2009 1:22 PM PDT
I know big cities are big money but for at&t and other providers but for 4 years I've heard at&t was going to improve signals in my area. I live one block away from Hy 101but I need to go outside to use my cell phone for basic voice communication. Think 3G is an issue here?
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by Motyoj August 22, 2009 4:58 AM PDT
I'm in rural Illinois and it's the same here. Sometimes my iPhone 3G S won't even work in the house when my wife's five year old Samsung el-cheapo works pretty well. At least my WiFi works well but I have to travel about an hour from home to get 3G signals. AT&T really dropped the ball here anyway.
by cardenas817 August 20, 2009 1:24 PM PDT
I currently get excellent service(be it wireless signal, customer service, and ability to roam freely out of the country) from at&t in the DFW metropolitan area, perhaps the best from all four major carriers. But even though at&t is trying to roll out improvements to its 3G connection, It should might as well skip these improvements, learn from its mistakes, and head on to 4G to compete with Sprint's services.
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by friscoG August 20, 2009 1:29 PM PDT
I don't understand how AT&T could have poor coverage in major markets like the SF Bay Area and Chicago. The largest markets should have decent service. I can understand service not being as great in rural areas, but major cities......wow.
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by ChicagoSteven August 21, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
Don't listen to the trolls. I live in Chicago and my service is great. I have had AT&T service and I can only remember dropping a call once. When I was on 2G, my connection was as expected and now that I am on 3G, the connection is as expected - EXCELLENT!

Not sure what type of phones these other people are using or whether they live in metal houses. No service provider is perfect, so I say that if your service is truly that bad with any one service provider, then stop complaining and jump ship. Find out who provides the best service in your area by speaking with family and friends and then go to that service provider.
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