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September 25, 2009 10:35 AM PDT

GPush for iPhone versus Google's Gmail push

by Jessica Dolcourt
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GPush on iPhone

GPush on iPhone now has a Gmail in-box within the app.

(Credit: Screenshot by Jessica Dolcourt/CNET)

In mid-August, the GPush app came into iPhone's App Store, promising to send push notifications of Gmail messages when new mail came in. Just last week, Google offered its own push solution for Gmail messages, one that pushes e-mail down from the server into the native iPhone in-box. Did that spell the end of GPush? Not quite.

First, Google's push service, which is handled by Google Sync, can vibrate the phone and sound an alert chime when it pushes a new message down from the server, but it lacks GPush's alert bubble that helpfully displays the sender and subject.

Second, GPush and Google are neck and neck when it comes to performance, at least as far as our iPhone is concerned. GPush sniffs out the new message faster about half the time, perhaps even more often. The bottom line: Google's push isn't necessarily faster or better.

Although Google's official push option is free and GPush is a premium app (whose price ratcheted up from 99 cents to $1.99), you still pay a price going Google's route. You're allowed to have one e-mail account sync over Microsoft Exchange. If you use Google Sync, you've used your shot. This is poor news for those who also access their work mail from their iPhone over Exchange. For this set, GPush is the better way to go. You can still use a standard Gmail account that pulls e-mail from the server at regular intervals, and use GPush to let you know when a new message trickles in, who sent it, and what it's about.

GPush notification on iPhone (Credit: Screenshot by Jessica Dolcourt/CNET)

An update to GPush adds a Gmail in-box to the application interface and a "View" button to the notification alert. Press that button and GPush can now open your in-box within its application. Since GPush is giving you access to Google's mobile Gmail site for iPhones, you'll be able to do anything with that e-mail that you could do from the Safari browser. In other words, with its proactive notification alert, Gpush has just one-upped Google, using Google's mobile site.

While the new Gmail in-box feature is exactly what we asked for, having Gpush open to the Gmail in-box tab took longer than it should. We hope to see this speed up in a future release.

What do you think about the GPush app versus Google's official Gmail push? Share your thoughts in the comments.

Jessica Dolcourt reviews the latest and greatest smartphone apps, in addition to a healthy dose of Windows software. E-mail Jessica and follow her on Twitter.
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by Paodi September 25, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
I would like to see Apple allow the iPhone to have multiple Exchange accounts enabled. This would make Google Sync a clear winner.
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by Vegaman_Dan September 25, 2009 11:32 AM PDT
I too would like this, but it is Apple's decision to limit it.

WHY, is not known. It could be a licensing issue or perhaps they just don't think you need it. Who knows?
by utahman.brian September 25, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
What is odd is that Snow Leopard lets you have multiple exchange accounts - the only application/environment I am aware of that does so (even Outlook does not allow this). Maybe at some point this could happen - I agree it would be nice.
by bryanminear September 25, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
great review! but im wondering which one consumes LESS battery life?
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by Vegaman_Dan September 25, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
Good point and question to make. Having Exchange on your device means it's polling for data from the server frequently. And I do mean frequently. I can have new mail show up on my desktop and have the iPhone chime in at the same time. But it doesn't really hurt battery life to any noticable extent that I can see.

As for the Gpush app, I may have to try that one out. Right now it only shows gmail on the iPhone mail client if I tell it to manually refresh the inbox in the mail app.
by AndyCR512 September 27, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
Actually, the whole point of push is that it's not polling the server. It's just maintaining an open connection. If you have push enabled for any application, it's already doing that to Apple servers anyway.
by rcrusoe September 25, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
Doesn't GPush rely on a third party server? I'm not a big fan of giving anyone my login credentials.
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by RugbyGod September 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT
I agree with third party server concerns. I use a lot of google apps (docs, reader, voice, etc.) and I am not really comfortable giving my google account login credentials to GPush folks. Not because I don't trust them, but it is another source of login credential leak...
by pkscout September 25, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
The new GPush supposedly let's you pick a different mail sound, but I can't seem to get it to play anything other than the default sound.

I actually use both GPush and Google Sync together. GPush gives the nice notification and pop-up, and Google Sync gets the message to my inbox immediately so I don't have to manually download it. If Apple added pop up notification to mail I'd probably drop GPush.
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by Brian06840 September 25, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
I have three gmail accounts (for different purposes). So that cuts out the Google Sync option for me.
Unfortunately, GPush (latest version) is only working with ONE of them. I do not get notifications from the other two -- I have entered my credentials multiple times.

This should not be not be so difficult! This is ridiculous that Google doesn't come up with an optimal solution...
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by Optimum03 September 26, 2009 6:16 PM PDT
Dude, you have 3 Gmail accounts! Having one account works seamlessly with both of these options. Either downgrade to one account or use GPush, google sync, and another gmail push app to have immediate updates for all 3.

Both are great options. I for one, prefer the exchange sync method.
by Brian06840 September 27, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
@Optimum03.

LOL!! I actually have 5 GMail accounts that I actively use. I (only) want to review 3 of those on my iPhone though.

Anyway, since yesterday, I went the Growl (on Win 7 x64) and Prowl route. What a great solution! I even have Google Voice notifications now. And yes, I have two numbers for Google Voice :) One is for personal and the other for work (it was too much address book maintenance to try to use one number).

In the last two hours, while I've been testing, I've received a handful of GPush on my iPhone while I've received over 40 notifications on my iPhone from Prowl. Those numbers alone speak to which solution PC (and Mac) users should be using.
by raulmot September 25, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
Googles push system over exhange also keeps your calendar and contacts synced on your iPhone which is big for me.
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by utahman.brian September 25, 2009 1:13 PM PDT
Another option is to use Growl on your computer and Prowl on your iPhone. True, you must have it running on a computer all the time, but I never turn off my work computer anyway. Growl/Prowl gives you many of the advantages of GPush, but you can get it to do oh so much more than just Gmail.
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by thexplorher September 25, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
My frustration is not having two separate icons for my gmail and my work email. My research led me to PushGmail (not GPush) as the best solution, still not ideal but it is really apple that needs to get their act together and allow multiple exchange servers and separate icons for each mail account.
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by xxdesmusxx September 25, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
Google Sync's push email has been horribly slow in my unscientific testing. I've been using NuevaSync for months now and they push my Gmail within 4-5 seconds at most ... Google Sync was pushing my email either around 1-2 minutes or not at all. The GPush app works pretty as well (as noted) but I went with NuevaSync because they include Google Calendar and Contacts push as well (in addition to push Gmail).
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by Sistrunk75 September 25, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
I agree with everything above. I've had GPush since it's been out and have been pleased. Recently I deactivated and now use Google push services. I currently use Google exchange for contacts, calendar, and now email. I miss the pop up window though, I must admit.

And I too wish I could have multiple Exchange accounts for work and personal. Being able to update calendar and contacts in the cloud is just too valuable to me. But I need it for work too.
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by maras123 September 25, 2009 6:29 PM PDT
Receiving gmail on iphone and into my PC outlook.
I am not very technical and am slowly going mad! I bought a new iphone and have set it up to receive two gmail accounts. Now have a situation in that if I open the email on my iphone, it does not arrive in my outlook on my pc. It does sit safely in Gmail. If I have my outlook open at the time, it may or may not arrive in outlook. It behaves very inconsistently. I have checked all the settings...but it is behaving badly. Any suggestions. Is this anything to do with gmail push. Should I use IMAP instead of POP? .. ironically, my husbands works perfectly - his iphone is an older version... Any advice
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by gbenner September 26, 2009 7:11 PM PDT
Check your settings regarding how long a message stays on the server. If both your iphone and outlook are set to remove immediately, then whichever one gets there first will remove it. You can set them to remove after 1 day, that way they both have a chance to get it. I have my account I share with my Mac set up to never remove with my iphone. My primary email on my iphone is set to remove immediately.
by anonymousjoseph September 27, 2009 6:51 AM PDT
Yes, if you are using POP, switch to IMAP. That will probably fix your problem.
by September 26, 2009 5:54 AM PDT
Use Nokia E71 with Gmail Push Mail

if you have the S60 serials mobile phone that you can refer this one to check out how to
setup your S60 to get the Push Mail from your Gmail or Google Apps

http://blog.stanserv.com/2009/09/cloud-sync-gmail-populace-of-push-mail.html
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by fatassy September 26, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
I've been using GPush since it came out, and have been happy with the speed, as opposed to Google Synch, which took 4-5 minutes, and didn't have the handy notification. However, with the recent GPush update, it now takes me to the GPush app whenever I unlock after a notification rather than giving me the option to just ignore the notification or open the e-mail in the iPhone mail app. I hope they can fix this quickly, or I'll have to start trying out the other notification apps.
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by jrm666 September 28, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
I have the EXACT same issue with the latest Gpush update. I unlock the phone when prompted that I have a new email and I'm taken right to the app, which is highly annoying. I've already emailed Tiverias apps about the issue, so far no response.
by blairvanhorn September 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT
I just bought GPush today and so far I'm happy with it, EXCEPT: the notifications suddenly stopped arriving after several hours, and nothing I did (resubmit settings, etc.) got it working again until I powered off my iPhone and started it back up again.
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by Brian06840 September 27, 2009 8:19 AM PDT
I have found GPush to be TOTALLY unreliable. I have tried to use if for three GMail accounts. Sometimes it works for one or two (never all three!) but often I just don't get any notifications at all...
by skellener September 26, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
I prefer PushGmail from the App Store. $1 and works great with IMAP.
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by awaybbl September 27, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
If you have an unlimited SMS plan, another way to get push notifications is to forward your gmail to your phones SMS.

Most carriers have a way to send SMS via email, and if so, you can forward the mail to that SMS address. In the case of att... it's as simple as forwarding to 1112223333@txt.att.net where 1112223333 is your phone number.

While it doesn't open the gmail app once you get a notification, it serves well enough as a simple notification, then you can manually open your mail app and that forces a fetch.

Again, I'd only recommend this if you have an unlimited SMS plan since you'd be paying for any SMS if not on a plan.
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by cbornsh2 September 28, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
I've been using Google Sync and am very happy with the results. I keep my gmail account open whenever I'm at my computer, and so far I have found that I get a push notification on my phone before the email shows up in the browser window. Early reviews of GPush as unreliable kept me from purchasing the app, but now with Google Sync, it would just be redundant.
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by blairvanhorn October 2, 2009 11:20 PM PDT
I don't know if anyone is still reading this thread of comments, but hopefully the author will see it.

I sent Tiverias Apps an e-mail on Sunday, Sep. 27 (support@tiveriasapps.com) with my observations on the problem of being dropped from the server and missed notifications, but I still haven't had any reply.

According to their support page, approximately 3% of users were experiencing the same problem ("certain email accounts (roughly 3%) consistently become disconnected from GMail's servers, leading to missed notifications")

My workaround: I switched off the wifi mode on my iPhone. With the wifi mode OFF, I receive all of my message notifications, and I haven't been "dropped" once since. If I switch my wifi mode ON, it's sketchy and I will usually lose my connection to the Gmail servers via Gpush.

I have only tested this with my wifi set-up at home, I usually use a 3G connection when I am elsewhere and have no need for wifi (though it is a nice option as it is usually quicker and uses up less battery life).

I love this application, it's easy and useful as long as no wifi is involved (for me, at least). And they have announced an upcoming update that will include "quiet hours" which is a great option.

But 3% of your clients is still 3% ... 3% who aren't able to use the basic function of the application, rendering pretty useless!
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