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Comments on: Poll: Forza 3 vs. Gran Turismo 5

Trailers for Forza 3 and Gran Turismo 5 have been released at E3. Which is better?

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by djthegodfather360 June 8, 2009 3:52 PM PDT
gt5 trailer was garbage so plain and doesnt seem to be all that great.. forza 3 has amazing vids and u can do so much to 1 little car and turn it into a beast and customize the paint ,the body kits . now fm3 is getting drift and drag tracks ...that is gonna be a wonderful game.....FM3 all the way!!!!!
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by PORSHCEDESIGNS June 8, 2009 8:02 PM PDT
i love forza 2 cant wait for forza 3 to come out its way better then Gran Turismo i played both of them and i always come back to forza 2
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by BorisDaCat June 8, 2009 8:56 PM PDT
Imo FM3 wins by default, because it will come out while I'm still young. But I'll be sure to give GT5 a try, as long as I'm not too busy playing Duke Nukem Forever at that time...
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by faabak June 8, 2009 10:56 PM PDT
Like the person in the first comment says; is there really any competition between the two and the answer is no! Forza 3 looks by FAR the best game!! We who played Forza 2 knows that Forza 3 is gonna be the best racing game since.. uh.. Forza 2 actually!! :D GO FORZA!!
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by Fr_KAAR_ June 8, 2009 11:43 PM PDT
Forza 3 FTW !!!
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by Gamer199 June 9, 2009 3:27 AM PDT
The community manager for Turn 10 (Che) is bribing players to vote for Forza 3 by offering anyone who votes FM3 a free "unicorn" car. He made the post and is providing the link to this site. Unicorn cars in Forza are ones that can typically only be given out by Turn 10 and are highly sought after. I think it's a shame that T10 would do something like this.

Here's the link for proof

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx
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by PzRTak June 9, 2009 4:45 AM PDT
OH NOEZ! What are you going to do about it cnet?

That's right, scoop up all the advertising revenue these thousands of hits are getting you. Thank Turn 10 for giving you hits and money!

Seriously, what did you think a poll like this on a public site would come down to.

NO ONE REALLY CARES!
by June 9, 2009 5:24 AM PDT
Actually, it's an offer of a free gift for taking the time to make your voice heard.... :)
Just by posting the link on Forza forum would have received a similar response. What amuses me is that there has to be a similar link on a GT website somewhere for the number of votes that GT5 has received.

Another way to look at it is the Community website that T10 has provided for Forza fans and players is an extremely organized and close community wishing the best for what is going to be another great product put forward and more importantly supported and interacted with by the creators on a continual basis after release.

Yes, I am a Forza Fan, could there be any other kind.
by June 9, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
My last comment didn't show my name so in case it doesn't again - it's Flying Scot.
As an example of community interest, there was a thread started on the Playstation forum this morning for this. In 3 hours it got 9 views and 1 post. 2 of those views were mine. In the same time frame of 3 hours from thread inception on Forzamotorsport.net there were 190 posts.

There is a GT forum with a thread going as well it has reached 4 pages since it's inception with 20 posts per page, on the Forza forum it is at 62 pages with 20 posts per page.

Okay, I am not discussing the merits of each game but more so how well developed the Community website is for Forza and the extremely active communty that is involved with the franchise.

There is also a thread on the Forza forum started by a community member of both forums calling for a more civil approach to the discussion. In that, I agree with him. Both games have there fans, both games are great additions to the gaming/ racing genre. Both deserve the respect for what they have and are accomplishing, some of which for us will be preference and some will be loyalty.

In the end I am a follower of Forza as I believe that franchise has done more in recent years to develop and take care of their fan base's desires and needs.
by gswift7 June 9, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
The results of the poll are a good example of what makes Forza such a strong game, despite having limited graphics and car selection. Giving away a free unique car is something I don't believe the Gran Turismo series is capable of, is it? This simple feature of the Forza series creates an entirely new mini-game within the game of Forza. The culture of car painters, tuners, traders, and collectors is unique. How many people who play the GT series will own multiple copies of the same model car? I love the way I can buy a car in Forza and make it look unique by adding stripes and other shapes, then upgrade that car and tune it for a specific track. Then I can get another type of car and tune it for that same track and give it a similar paint scheme, so that I know they are both tuned for the same track. I can even write stuff on the side of the car, such as the tracks the car is tuned for. That's pretty cool I think.

I loved the original GT, and it is the reason I bought Forza 2. I have wanted a game that lets me go a step farther than the GT series does, and Forza makes me feel like I have more connection with my car collection. It's more personal. If I create a really great tuning setup, I can actually draw my name or a personal logo on the side of the car and sell it to other players. Then I could, one day, end up in a race next to a car of my own design. That's pretty cool too.

It's fine for GT to add a "NASCAR mode", but what makes NASCAR and all types of racing different from one another is the rules of the league. How can GT include a "NASCAR mode" without having the NASCAR rules integrated into the game? Does it limit the weight distribution to each tire? Can you adjust the spring rate of each tire individually? Is the fuel load and consumption tracked with high accuracy? Can you make changes to aerodynamics and suspension tuning mid-race? Can you change only the right-side tires and take only a half load of fuel to save pit time? Is there a caution flag and a pace car? Harumph.

Pretty graphics are great, and GT looks better. However, I think both games are good enough that I'm happy with the graphics. Once the graphics get good enough, making them a little better doesn't really affect me. At that point I'm just interrested in the gameplay. How much stuff is there for me to do in the game. How many different things are there for me to master, and how do those things come together. How many different ways are there for my brother and I to play together? Can my 13 year old daughter and I both enjoy this game and play it together?

I really think that Forza has become a better series than GT. To me, Forza seems like a slightly improved spiritual succsessor to the GT series. It seems to me that Forza has all the important parts of the GT series that make it so much fun, then they added a few important little bits to make it even more fun.

The competition between the two series has given us all some really great games, that's for sure, no matter which is your favorite.
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by SirPoonga June 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT
I am getting both. If I had to pick one it would be Forza.

The difference between GT5 and Forza is the same difference between the Xbox and the PS3. The Xbox is more community based. IT has better friend connectivity and communication. I prefer being able to easily play with my friends than the number of cars available.

Forza has better community features. From being able to share cars, paint them and put them on the auction house, view recent online races, damage, and multiplayer it has been the innovator in console sims. GT5 is copying Forza with the racing line, damage, and multiplayer. GT5 has finally realized they need those features these days.

Forza also has Road America. As a Wisconsinite I have to love that.

However, the advantage GT5 has is more cars, tracks, and styles of racing. This is why I am also getting GT5.
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by Racer131 June 9, 2009 11:12 AM PDT
Hmmm a conumdrum

GT5 has:

Shinier graphics
Rally cars

Forza3 has:

Better customization
Better physics
Better damage+rollover
Better community tools
Larger comfier controller
Release date this century

Both games will be awesome, but Forza seems more complete for my gaming habits.
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by ddalley June 9, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
This poll is worthless, pointless and should be deleted.

If voters are parachuted in from one forum, such as the official XBox forum, and the SONY forum locks any similar request for votes, this poll just gets to be more and more lop-sided each passing day.
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by OPerkelO June 9, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
rotfl.. people can't even imagine that they don't even know what they are dealing with (GT5).
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by Vaioleto June 9, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
Umm... Turn 10 (makers of Forza) are offering people a free car in Forza 2 if they vote for Forza 3 in this poll... pretty sure that's rigging the poll.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

What's funny is that even with that, Gran Turismo has been catching up since yesterday and will likely win out when the poll closes.
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by DevilNinja420 June 9, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
HAHAHA FORZA CAN"T WIN WITHOUT CHEATING AND SWAYING THE POLE BY GIVING USERS FREE INGAME CAR'S FOR VOTES< HAHAHA THEY EVEN KNOW GT IS BETTER !!!!

READ HERE - http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/06/09/forza-developer-using-bribes-to-skew-cnet-poll/
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by PSYCHOBOY81 June 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
Ha Ha Ha! Come on Forza fans. if you vote, and report it to the Forza forum you get a free car, which is a good thing, because Forza fans need as many cars as they can get their hands on. After all, GT on the PSP has more cars than Forza 2&3 put together.
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by TEITS June 9, 2009 2:31 PM PDT
Watch out forza fanboys because according to some websites the release date is 25th september. If this is true then you can forget about the competition. I still think GT4 looks better than forza 3 lol.
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by shulas September 28, 2009 3:04 AM PDT
I think the original forza looks better than GT5P.
by calaby June 9, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
This poll is completely useless you can vote over and over. So some geeky little putz can sit at his computer in his mom's basement and skew the results.
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by ddalley June 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT
Not true. I just checked to see if this is true and was told my previous vote had already been counted, not to say that it couldn't be done with some effort.
by ddalley June 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
I just saw that Microsoft is vote rigging this poll!

This is so priceless!
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by markgillespie June 9, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
Microsoft rig most votes/polls. They employ extremely large teams of viral marketers. This time they got caught. Don't be fooled by other sites thou, those hardcore Xbox fanboys, many of them are paid astroturfers with the intention of swinging public opinion, and fools follow them.
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by DrewN June 9, 2009 4:19 PM PDT
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

Unbelievable, this poll has officially been slanted, good job Turn 10, what a crock!
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by seraphemz June 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT
Turn 10 devs show no class. Figures they are with Microsoft.

PD- have been nothing but professionals, even when Turn 10 have repeatedly offended them.

At the end of the day, it will be nice to see how foolish Turn 10 looks.
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