Entered CNET Catalog: 03/09/2006
SKU: 37648268523
Manufacturer: Symantec Corporation
Manufacturer description
Built on Norton Ghost technology, Norton Save & Restore safeguards photos and important files; schedules automatic backups; restores from system failures; automatically monitors and optimizes backup disk space; encrypts backups to help keep them secure.CNET editors' review
- Editors' Choice: No
- Reviewed on: 03/21/2006
Installation is similar across all Symantec products. However, this time there is a pause during the installation when a dialog box asks you to validate your hardware in use against the database of drivers stored on the Symantec recovery disc. This good because should you ever need to boot directly from the Save & Restore disc, you'll know that afterward your monitor, mice, and other peripherals will work properly.
This product also has the same look and feel as Symantec's Norton Internet Security line of products, so you'll see a link to the Norton Protection Center above the Save & Restore button. The Norton Protection Center will be confusing for some. For example, Norton had big red Xs over antivirus and firewall protection, yet our test machine was protected--with products from other vendors. Clicking any of the red Xs for "more information" simply delivers you to the Symantec online store and a description of the appropriate Norton solution (Norton AntiVirus, Norton SystemWorks, and so on). While advertising one's own product line is legit, advertising under the guise of "protection" is misleading when adequate protection already exists.
As previously stated, Norton Save & Restore offers all the functionality of Norton Ghost, plus additional features we'd like to have seen in the last version. Like Ghost, Norton Save & Restore lets you create and restore a compressed image of all your data on your hard drive or any other storage media such as CD, DVD, or USB flash drive. What you get with Save & Restore that you don't with Ghost 10 is the capability to select individual files for either backup or restoration.
Another improvement is the addition of helpful wizards. Say you've never backed up your data before. A wizard within Norton Save & Restore automatically suggests a simple and straightforward weekly schedule, which you can alter to suite your work habits. Click the suggested time, the types of file formats to back up, and the location of the backup, and in a short while you'll have a customized backup schedule. Another wizard helpfully suggests drives available to store your backup and various compression options. We were able to start backing up our 11GB hard drive within a minute; our complete initial backup required 30 minutes.
Unfortunately, at the time of this writing, online FAQ support is virtually nonexistent for Norton Save & Restore, although there are free options for online chat and e-mail. Calling Symantec's technical support remains outrageously pricey. Live technician service is available 24/7, however Symantec will charge you a flat $29.95 per incident.
User opinions
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User Rating:
1/10
Atrocious !!!
Pros: None i can think of. It does not work!!!
Cons: A total waist of time. Hundreds of dollars in wasted hours trying to recover my data. The worst program I've used in the last fifteen years.
User Rating:
1/10
BE WARNED: ON'T BUY THIS PRODUCT! NORTON SAVE & RESTORE
Pros: It might work -- if I could get the GD thing installed (NORTON SAVE & RESTORE)
Cons: Norton's service is a JOKE. The only reason you would want to experience it is to see just how incmompetent tech support can be -- and then you'll have that reference point.
User Rating:
2/10
Norton save and restore (NSR) sucks! Rating is 0!
Pros: It has nothing to recommend it! It does more harm that good!
Cons: It is hopelessly bad!
I had already turned off Norton Go-Back in System Works because it was more of a pain in the neck than anything else. Other vendor's programs seem to do the rest of the System Works features better. so I asked Norton to cancel my subscription to System works and give me a refund. They agreed!
I am going to avoid Symantec and Norton products from now on. I think that they have lost their edge. Putting out a product like NSR and having the gall to charge for it is unconsionable!!!!
User Rating:
1/10
It Doesn't Work, >>> DON'T BUY
Pros: box has nice color
Cons: DOES NOT WORK
Live Update can't run,
Send Feedback can't connect,
Backup run terminate with errors,
Can't find my external drives,
No Symantec email for support,
Paid 3 hour long-distance phone to Symantec support guy who could not fix it and told me "Save & Restore version 2.0 just doesn't work"
User Rating:
1/10
Do not use it if you care for your files.
Pros: Configuration is relatively easy.
Cons: A never-ending stream of errors. Cannot handle deep paths (over 250 chars you're screwed)...
I would give Norton S&R a negative rating: this software is a danger to your files. (Not lower than -5 though, because it does not actively destroys your data.
User Rating:
1/10
DON'T BUY!!!
Pros: Can't think of any since product didnt' work well
Cons: Bugs, incompetent tech support
Stay away from this Symatec product unless you feel like being a guinea pig and have a lot of time to waste trying to figure out why the product will not work.
Just a follow up note. The product did work as far as backing up goes. I had no problem there, although I only did one initial back up job. But, if you can't create a recovery CD, then it kind of defeats the purpose of being able to easily recover from a hardware or system failure.
User Rating:
6/10
Pretty good backup for reasonable price
Pros: Backed up files/folders on schedule with no problems
Cons: Odd file storage, high resource usage
User Rating:
2/10
Would not even install correctly.
Pros: None since it would not install
Cons: Would not install on Windows XP Service Pack 2
User Rating:
10/10
Works fine for me
Pros: Multitude of options
Cons: None found yet
I saved full images of clean Windows installs and full program installs for both boot partitions on both back-up drives. I use the user log-on event trigger to incremental back-up to the internal hard drive, and leave the external drive at another address.
On several blue screen occasions I have recovered by rebooting to the Windows boot partition that still functioned and restored the other boot partition.
I don't do any other operations for the two minutes that the internal incremental back-up requires.
Recovering from the internal drive, the 13 gig boot partition takes 8 minutes and the 24 gig boot partition takes 12 minutes.
Using 3 new internal and one new external drives running XP PRO on a four year old Dell XPS this program has been flawless and given me peace of mind for almost a year. Too bad it took a crash for me to get serious.
User Rating:
5/10
I like Go Back over this product.
Pros: easy to use
Cons: recovery still a question
User Rating:
2/10
Is it worth all the problems?
Pros: Never got that far !
Cons: Cannot install over previous Norton products
User Rating:
1/10
Total Disaster
Pros: Symantec Product
Cons: Beta Release
This caused the destruction of a 40 gig and a 160 gig hard drives, loss of all data and a week of manually reloading all files and programs after installing a new hard drive.
THIS PROGRAM WILL ONLY BACK-UP TO THE DRIVE IT WAS INSTALLED FROM!!!!
User Rating:
3/10
cyclic redundancy caused me to not buy
Pros: seemed easy and seemed to have lots of options
Cons: Little insight into what s/w was doing, didn't do a full computer backup across home network,
I don't understand why the rest of my system works find and yet NSR can't finish the job. I'd like more insight into where the error is. If it's a specific file that's screwed up then tell me, often I'd be happy to just delete that one file.
I've been using a free product called Cobian Backup for about 2 years now doing incremental backups. It simply automatically copies ~40GB of pictures to that same usb drive. It's saved my bacon more that once. I tried NSR because I wanted to be able to quickly rebuild a pc and the Ghosting feature seemed like the way to go.
I highly encourage everyone to try NSR before you buy it. If it works on your setup then your are g2g. If it doesn't, then you aren't out the cash.
I'll probably try NSR again sometime, but for now I'm happy with the free solution.
User Rating:
5/10
Mr. Editor-What happened when you restored?
Pros: Informative review helped me decide to keep & try it.
Cons: Mr. Editor-No bottom line results experienced when restore.
I was confused as to what the differences were between Ghost 10 and Save and Restore.
I finally got through by phone to Tech. Support after being on the phone for 15 minutes which isn't too bad of a wait. I would have thought that there would be a separate department to handle product information dedicated to before the sale of the myriad of products offered. Anyway, the technician explained that Save & Restore replaces Ghost 10 which they have stopped making. The Save and Restore is supposed to have all the features of Ghost 10 and more.
The important point that I wanted clarified was if the Save & Restore had the ability to save the entire HD with all the programs and restore the entire HD with all the programs and settings. And, despite my apprehensions, I hope & believe it will. As I indicated the Editor's view helped to decide to open the box and try the product. But with all the negative user reviews about their experiences with restore, I would have liked to have seen if that part was tested by the Editor. Again, I will now take it out of the box and start using it, and hopefully I'll never need to have to find out how well it can recover my PC! I will submit a review of my experience using the save functions. Since I must give a rating, I will say 5 and stay tuned!
User Rating:
1/10
Sloppy and useless software, a complete ripoff
Pros: none whatsoever
Cons: It does not work
User Rating:
2/10
Not a good first impression.
Pros: same old, same old
Cons: crashes when computer starts.
"Please note: By confirming your email address and downloading this file, you are signing up to receive periodic followup emails from us."
User Rating:
1/10
Installation caused optical drives (CD & DVD) to be non-recognized by Win XP, making them useless.
Pros: None, won't even install.
Cons: Everything, including poor tech support,
User Rating:
1/10
Extremely buggy, very little confidence that restore will work
Pros: Easy to figure out
Cons: Bugs, poor tech support, fails to back up 25% of the time
User Rating:
2/10
Missing Key Features for Off-Line Storage
Pros: Very Simple Interface. Nothing Hidden.
Cons: No complexity - Awful Tech Support - Inadaquite DVD Support
However, following installation the first problem was the installation of a Protection Center Service that I did not need. Installing itself in my system tray as a Service, it kept flashing a warning that I had no Virus protection. Notwithstanding the fact that I have a current version of SAV. If you tried to get rid of the warning, you were redirected to a sales URL for a new product. This "Alert" service needed to be manually disabled in Computer Management.
Once I started working with the actual Save and Restore Product, I found that it would not recognize any DVD-RW or CDR devices. After 2-hours of Googling for a solution I opened a Chat session with their India tech support. This was destined to failure...
The first question asked was the model of the drive. My reply was a "Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-110D." I was told that this was not a supported Drive... Inquiring further I was told that the "Pioneer DVR-110D" was supported, however there was no supported Pioneer drive with DVD-RW in the title... This went back-n-forth for about 40-minutes. The entire time, it was clear that the support agent was multitasking with other clients as each reply took excessively long.
The only positive? After only 20-minutes more on hold, the refund was quick.
User Rating:
1/10
DONT BUY S&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
Pros: I can't seem to find any.
Cons: Totally full of bugs, can't have other software installed.
This is when I contacted support, well the turnaround time for a response is 48 hours which I find unacceptable since our own Tech support department doesn't do that. Well over several emails that had the strong impression they were following a script that was made from keywords. Well I made the mistake of mentioning that I had itunes installed. Well that is all they needed. Symantecs reponse to me now is to install some gear security drivers. I asked what these drivers are for and was told that third party apps use them to access the cd/dvd drives. The strange thing is I use my cd/dvd drives everyday for viewing and burning of both formats and no problems. I've also never had a problem using itunes. Well its to the point now that they won't move the support any further unless I install these drivers. Its strange that backup software would have conflicts with applications that aren't running, with devices connected to the usb ports and need drivers to access drives it shouldn't be during a backup. One of supports first suggustions to me as to why I can't complete a custom backup job is my harddrive must be below 1mb of free space. Hmmm its says I have 50gb free.
I haven't used any Symantec products in a long time because I got very tired of working around their conflicts but wanted some backup software and boy was it a mistake. I will never ever use another Symantec product again.
User Rating:
1/10
Symantec's worst software yet.
Pros: Easy install and uninstall. Chat support was quick and responsive but ultimately not helpful.
Cons: Slow, Many more
I finally uninstalled NSR and reinstalled NGv10 again. Don't be misled into thinking that NSR is an upgrade to NGv10, it's a different program that still needs a lot of work.
User Rating:
1/10
deadlocks programs, and doesn't work
Pros: do not have to reboot to cause problems
Cons: hopeless product., I will be uninstalling...
User Rating:
2/10
This product does NOTwork safely or reliably
Pros: Easy to save backups to DVD
Cons: Cannot restore from DVD
Save & Restore is designed to work in a "Recovery Environment" where in a disastrous loss of your Windows C: drive (so that you cannot boot to Windows) you can boot directly from the product CD (but this takes simply ages!).
Supposedly you can then recover your Windows system from earlier CD/DVD backups.
Problems comes though when you select the _same_ CD drive that you booted from as being the source of the backup the product fails with an
?Error E0BB0085: Mount point '' is invalid?.
This is catastrophic - product is not fit for purpose.
I was 'rather disappointed' to find that Symantec technical support actually said (and I quote from their ?chat? log) where they told me:
Tech Support>
Reboot to Windows mode and copy the image to hard drive and then try to restore the image.
Customer>
But if I had lost my hard drive, how can I do that? I need to be able to recover from CD please
Tech Support>
As you have single DVD drive, i suggest you to copy the image which is on CD to a hard drive and then boot in to recovery mode and then restore the image.
I could not make this up!
The product has very limited value in an emergency situation and technical support are ?not very helpful?.
I gave up on Save & Restore (and gave up on tech support) after 4 days of wasted time. I ultimately had to re-build my system from XP Distribution CD upwards and restore my user data from Microsoft Backups (which thankfully I had also done).
I took Save & Restore back to my retailer, I explained the situation and what tech support had told me and my retailer gave me a full refund.
N.B.: You have a 60 day money back guarantee from Symantec, use it (or better still don?t buy it ? stick with Ghost 7.5 which is less fancy but it works!
User Rating:
1/10
Didn't work, do not buy
Pros: Norton Brand, integrated live update
Cons: Lack of technical support
Contacted Norton live support who suggested having only Micorosoft services and Symantec services are loaded at startup. Tried this and it did not help. Tech support was unable to diagnose something which is fundamentally wrong with the restore software.
User Rating:
7/10
Actually does work
Pros: Works when you use it properly
Cons: Minimal documentation and support

