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Mozilla Thunderbird 2 (03/27/2008)

Mozilla Thunderbird 2

Entered CNET Catalog: 03/27/2008

SKU: SERVMOZILLATHUNDERBIRD2

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Product summary

The goodThe good: Mozilla Thunderbird 2 offers unobtrusive installation; speedy searches; built-in RSS feeds; well-considered security; hundreds of add-ons; and compatibility with Windows, Mac, and Linux systems, as well as with Gmail and .Mac accounts.

The badThe bad: Setting up Mozilla Thunderbird 2 may be dead simple for geeks, but steps could be explained better from the start. Built-in features are less extensive than in paid clients, such as Microsoft Outlook, although users with savvy can tack on many add-ons.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: Mozilla Thunderbird 2 is a fine, free, extensible e-mail client and a solid alternative to pricey Microsoft Outlook 2007 or the free Windows Live Mail.

Average user rating: from 8 users
2.5 stars

Editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 03/27/2008

The Thunderbird 2 e-mail application comes from Mozilla, the same organization responsible for releasing Firefox, the popular open-source Web browser. Firefox has become the preferred surfing tool for many people who reject Microsoft Internet Explorer. However, will users seeking a Microsoft e-mail alternative turn to Thunderbird?

The answer for open-source aficionados, especially those who use Linux, is likely yes. Mac users, however, are likely to use Apple's Mail, whose fans insist is faster. Although Windows users can pay for Outlook or opt for the Microsoft's smaller, free Windows Live Mail, (which succeeded Outlook Express), we think Thunderbird is a highly attractive alternative for these users.

Setup and interface
Downloading the 6.4MB Thunderbird 2 for Windows took several quick minutes in our tests. On one Windows XP SP2 PC, we imported all of our corporate work e-mail settings from an Outlook account we'd been using for 42 months. That process took nearly 20 minutes. It imported our dozens of in-box folders, but those and the in-box were empty. We had to consult online help to figure out how to get new messages to populate the in-box. On a Windows Vista laptop, we set up Thunderbird only to read messages from a rarely used, 24-month-old Gmail account; that process was nearly instantaneous.

Setup with the free Windows Live Mail was similarly foolproof. By contrast, however, we were glad that Thunderbird didn't ask to change our default browser settings. Nor did it litter our desktop with unwanted icons, as so much freeware often does. Unfortunately, we can't say the same when installing Microsoft Windows Live Mail in a bundle with its otherwise good Windows Live Apps package.

Features
Once Thunderbird 2 is up and running, its layout should be familiar to anyone who has dabbled in Outlook. Messages appear in the center, with folders in the left pane and a menu of commands and options along the top of the window. We're grateful for Back and Forward buttons that help with navigation.

Thunderbird offers many small yet welcome advantages, such as text tagging. That lets you describe the content of, and later quickly retrieve, an e-mail or RSS feed. Tags also let you classify and prioritize messages, such as for work or for handling later. We didn't use a timer, however; we felt that search features were faster in Thunderbird than in the revamped capabilities of Microsoft Outlook 2007. Of course, Thunderbird offers other staple e-mail features, such as a spell-checker and warnings when you receive suspected phishing messages from scam artists.

That said, there aren't as many features in Mozilla Thunderbird 2 as in the full edition of Microsoft Outlook. For instance, we couldn't find a way to attach pictures to contacts. Nor could we preview Office documents within e-mails. While we were happy to see our Outlook contacts imported in their entirety, we disliked that Thunderbird opened a separate window to display them.

Also, we wanted to use Thunderbird on a single computer to read e-mail from various sources as well as RSS feeds. Initial setup, which let us make only one of those choices, didn't make it easy to determine how to do that. Unfortunately, we found it clumsy to set up a signature line (done by setting up a message template) and an automated vacation e-mail reply.

Rather than being managed within a closed corporate ecosystem, many passionate Mozilla developers update Thunderbird. This community has created hundreds of add-ons. Although Thunderbird lacks a calendar and to-do list tool, you can add those separately through Mozilla's Lightning and ReminderFox. That's wonderful news for those willing to search, but a potential hassle for those who'd like everything preinstalled from the start.

Thunderbird renders HTML e-mails via the Firefox browser, which is good. Many users of Microsoft Outlook, on the other hand, complain that it uses a stale version of HTML that fails to breaks the full formatting of some messages.

Service and support
Thunderbird provides online support only, which is reasonable for a free product. Mozilla's Help pages include step-by-step tutorials with well-illustrated screenshots, as well as FAQs and keyboard shortcuts. However, we wish we could have searched directly within Thunderbird's interface for topics, such as setting up automated vacation messages.

User opinions

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User Rating:
2.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

Not for big email users

Pros: The price is right, and initially it worked well for me. I liked the calendar add on.

Cons: It's really slow after several months of use. I've read the blogs, used Thunderfix, and tried everything. I won't go back to Outlook, but I'm really dissatisfied with the bloated, slow, quirky responses from Thunderbird. Any suggestions, anyone?

Review: Good for people getting under 100 emails a day. Spam filter is good also. But power users need something else.
User Rating:
2.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

A nice try - but its no outlook.

Pros: Its free. Its mozilla - so its safe and stable. Initial setup is simple, very easy for someone with a hotmail or google account whos not very computer literate. Not ram greedy, and improved the mail view speed due to the lack of immediate downloads.

Cons: Sync'ing - It seems they love this word, I like my mail to be downloaded and deleted to save server space, but thunderbird was having none of it. The drop down account settings menu becomes EXTREAMLY stressful and difficult to use with multi accounts

Review: I'll be honest - I dont like it. I think this client is excellent for computer newbies, but not for someone whos trying to run a website, and a personal life through email. Although Mozilla-pro obsessive people will completly disagree with this - but Id recommend if your using more than one account, and want simplicity and organisation theirs only one answer - Outlook. The amount of times I lost my rag with outlook over its slow speed and rubbish indexing, but Thunderbird made me miss it so much, and I'll never complain again. Firefox is a good browser, arguably the best. But after using this mail client its clear that Mozilla are a browser-making business, not a mail client business. And the reason is simply, that they are fighting head-to-head with Microsoft (again), but this time they aren't using the right player. The one thing that annoyed me the most is the idea of "saving hard drive space" which is good, yes, but not required when you have a 500gb hard drive with nothing on it. I'd love the option to turn off that DAMN sync tool which automatically sync'd EVERY folder. If you deleted a message on the client, it deleted on the server - and so on. Their was a way to switch them all off other than the Inbox, it was ALWAYS sync'd. And if you hadnt sync'd your deleted folder and you deleted something from your inbox, you'd have to go to your webmail to either see it again, or delete it perminantly. Not something I enjoyed doing every time I checked my email. And to be fair to MS, you get windows mail for free with genuine windows now anyway - so if you have one account or are just looking for a simple email client, your already sorted!
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 8 user reviews

Thunderbird = one-way street to disaster

Pros: Its quick loading

Cons: There is no Export command. It doesnt allow u to export emails once you've realised you installed a useless email client that doesnt allow you to have duplicate email addy etc.

Review: Totally disappointed. Took me hours to xfer emails back to MS client.
User Rating:
2.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

Bloated files, bugs never fixed

Pros: Free. Accessing and reading mail is easy. Filing options are good.

Cons: I takes up a lot of disk space. Annoying bugs never get fixed.

Review: I have been using this client for several years, and now I am looking for a replacement. While it has strengths, the bugs are increasingly annoying. Like Microsoft products, its files occupy way too much disk space.

Files imported from Eudora when I first made the switch are at least 3 times the size of the original Eudora file. Annoying bugs remain, version after version. Thunderbird can't handle embedded images in forwarding email. Deletions and transfers to files hang, and get resolved only by closing and reopening Thunderbird. Reply to all frequently generates "malformed address" errors, forcing manual correction of obvious formatting differences in perfectly good addresses that Thunderbird can't identify or handle. And it finds them only one at a time, putting you through the process multiple times.
Version after version comes out without fundamental everyday bugs being addressed.
User Rating:
5.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

Best Email Client Ever

Pros: The Best Email Client software. See my review for the features and Outlook comparison

Cons: There is no fee, but you will have to spend time on the internet or on the Thunderbird forum and try the add-ons. See it as a long relation-ship based on reciprocity, the more you invest yourself the better usability you can expect.

Review: This is a first class email client and it is free. It respect HTML, search functions are intuitive, no clutter, no bloat, highly configurable but simple. It is multi-platform. Open Source. Yes, you need to read some help files and finding them will request you some web searches. The pay-back: the more you learn about it, the more you will like it and you will never return to this piece of junk Outlook - bloated, proprietary, killing the HMTL - if you did not know it already Outlook renders a bad and bloated HTML. This kind of crap is full of redundant and unnecessary functions, you should get over with it. Thunderbird has a calendar add-on lightning, it is clear, concise. Thunderbird is not the work of a Marketing team pushing fancy new functions to justify their wage. You can be a corporate user but you don't have to be a Donkey. That's exactly the perception of M$: users are cash donkeys i.e. They will pay for the clutter, they will pay for the licenses, they will pay for the upgrades, and we M$ will make sure our products are not compatible and kill the standards. Thunderbird is the opposite: It focuses on usability and compatibility. It works particularly well with Google accounts (IMAP/Sync Address book/Sync Calendars, etc.).

There is a question of taste and this is a personal matter, but when it comes the functions and software design, Outlook (Entourage on Mac) is no match for Thunderbird. Some people will argue Exchange works best with Outlook, but there are other solution, cheaper and better for a mail server. Thunderbird should be the email client of preference for all the conscientious users, not to mention is is safer to user than Outlook.
User Rating:
2.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

it's not great

Pros: not written by BillG

Cons: spollchicker is lowsy. gimme OutlkXpress anytyme.
Set up is really hard work unless you speak fluent 'geek'

Review: management of log in passwords is unfathomable and erratic. Maybe because i have multiple email accounts, but Xpress has no trouble at all.
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

Very Good.

Pros: Can sign digitally and it works like a charm. Add-Ons.

Cons: Not the sleekest engine. Not a big upgrade from Mail (Apple).

Review: If you want an alternative to a mail program you don't like, Thunderbird is great. Like Firefox, it has loads of add-ons (a great feature.) Another "feature" I like is the fact it is fast. Ive had mail programs that take a few minutes to get the mail, when Thunderbird takes 20 seconds. Overall, very good.
User Rating:
5.0 stars

out of 8 user reviews

greatest email client ever

Pros: fast, simple, clean, easy to use, large addon selection

Cons: none that i have found yet

Review: From reading the review cnet made, they make this product sound like its designed for power users. Yes, geeks may tend to use it more often than a regular user - but that's only because geeks are the ones who know about it.

As far as importing your data from outlook... Outlook by far is known to have the worst memory/database/email management system of any client in existence. If you have any more than 100,000 messages total archived in outlook you are almost guaranteed to crash or have a hard time navigating anything.

Obviously most people don't have 100k messages to look between... In the business I'm in though I use multiple email accounts and need the ability to quickly look back at something someone might have sent me months ago. The search capabilities in outlook prove just as bad a performance as its memory management.

I'd recommend thunderbird to anyone.

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