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"MIO C520 Review after One Month of Ownership" on by navuser1
Pros: Low Price, Lots of Customization, Good Detour Function
Cons: Too Many Bugs yet
Summary: I have been using a C520 (purchased from Circuit City in Mid-May, paid $338 after AAA discount coupon) for over a month. I replaced a Garmin Nuvi 360, which was OK but lacked the options and customization that Garmin has had in the older ColorPilot series. Plus I wanted a bigger screen.
The MIO unit is great for the price, BUT they have several issues that must be fixed. See below. I have sent these issues to Mio and iGO (SW supplier to MIO). Mio has not responded. iGo has responded and claims they will look at the issues for an upcoming software release in summer.
Until they fix the high priority items, I still recommend Garmin for the entry level user. Experienced nav users, willing to overlook the following bugs, will enjoy the vast customization and advanced features. Great detour function! Garmin take note: Your detour function is useless on the NUVI 360!
High priority must be fixed:
1) When approaching the destination, there is no indication if address or POI is on the Left or Right. This is a BIG, BIG issue. When you have shopping malls on both sides of the street, you don’t know which way to turn to find your POI or destination!!!!
2) No selection to find POI along the current route. Add “Along Route” to Change Reference selection screen. This is a great option when traveling on a highway route and you want to find your favorite restaurant or brand of gas or Rest Area on the same side of the highway. You don’t want to travel miles off your route if there is a POI directly ahead on your current route. It saves time and money (gas).
3) When sitting still at a traffic light, often the map “auto rotates” sometimes up to 90 degrees and shows your position at an angle to the road. You have to drive about 100-200 feet before the icon straightens out and shows you traveling parallel to the road. If the unit had a gyro, I’d say the gyro was getting out of calibration, but the unit does not contain such a device, so I have no idea what causes this issue.
4) Can’t find a way to repeat the last voice command. The speaker icon is not showing on the map screen. I think this is a Software bug, as the manual shows a speaker icon on the screen.
5) The voice commands stutter often. It seems worse on the female voice. “Fa-fa-fa-follow the current road.” “Turn Ra-ra-ra-right.” It’s really annoying.
Highly Annoying and should be fixed:
1) We have several major roads in Michigan that are divided with a median and have left turnarounds every 500-1000 feet to facilitate reversing directions. They also allow for “Michigan left turns” where instead of using a left turn lane, you must turn right on your target road and then take a quick u-turn to head left. I was working at Bose in Framingham, MA until last October, so the road that sort of exemplifies this situation the closest in Route 9, except you exit right to turn around.
The Mio C520 issues commands almost continuously in these situations: “In 500 feet, keep right”; in 900 feet, keep right, in 600 feet, keep right, in 500 feet, keep right…….” It’s really annoying to the point where you either turn off the unit or you start ignoring it and finally miss a real maneuver. No other GPS unit I’ve tried does this, so I think the iGO engineers must not encounter this situation in Europe where they develop the software. In the map screen, the turnarounds are labeled “connecting roads” so it must be some logic tied to this road classification.
2) After calculating a route, it should say something, like “Please proceed to the highlighted route and route guidance will begin”. Or, something shorter: “Ready to navigate”. Or, a simple chime.
3) After calculating a Route and you are in a parking lot (not on the route) the Info screen does not give you the Route Information (arrival, distance, etc.). You have to get on the route before the information pops-up. If I am trying to evaluate different routes or estimate an arrival time, it can’t be done.
4) The Arrival time or Distance cannot be found for Vias in the Itinerary List. So, if you set-up a via point for lunch ahead on the route, you can’t find out the distance or estimated time of arrival to the via point in the Itinerary List. It only gives the arrival time and distance for the final destination.
5) The screen gets washed out in sunlight. The need for thinness and battery life probably drove the compromise.
6) It is very difficult to “drag and drop” to move the map around without the C520 triggering the cursor to inquire if you want to enter it as a destination/POI. This is really aggravating while driving. Change the sensitivity to make the touch of the screen longer before you pop-up the cursor so it is easier to pan the screen.
7) The Lock-On-Road option too strongly ties the current position icon to the road and turning it off is too loosely associated and the icon drifts too far off the road while in a route. When it’s Locked-On-Road, it doesn’t do a good job of vehicle icon orientation in a large parking lot to help you maneuver back to a digitized road. It locks you to the closest road and you have no way of knowing which direction to head out of the parking lot to get to the highlighted route.
Annoying:
1) I prefer the Garmin method of displaying the scale. Keep it one width. It’s too confusing to have the bar changing size AND scale simultaneously as you change the zoom level.
2) After calculating a route, it should say something, like “Please proceed to the highlighted route and route guidance will begin”. Or, something shorter: “Ready to navigate”. Or, a simple chime.
3) The screen has poor contrast and gets washed out in sunlight too easy. The need for thinness and battery life probably drove the compromise.
4) In the POI list, if two POIs are the same distance away from your current location, the two POIs will swap positions in the list constantly. When you try to choose one, it’s like shooting at a moving target. You might get the one you want or you might not. Suggestion: Order the list by distance first and then alphabetical order so no swapping back and forth occurs.
Personal preference:
1) The HMI (Human Machine Interface) is a bit cluttered for big fingers. The Clarion implementation of the same iGo software might be better. Plus, the Clarion has the speaker icon that the Mio 520 is somehow missing. -
"Mio C520 - Nice but..." on by lazyoaks
Pros: Excellent Price, very readable display, accurate where I am in Central FL,
Cons: Bluetooth does not work. No accessories to be found easily beware, Support line has a nice vmail:) that you end up in, email support so far is more responsive. Battery is not swappable,
Summary: I purchased the Mio C520 as it seemed the best price/value on the market. Garmin's seemed much more costly and the others less reliable. So I settled in between.
My opinion is while it seems to be a nice neat package it has flaws that you have to decide whether it is important or not.
Suction cup mount...Right out of the box, I tried to use the suction cup mount and discovered it will not hold on flat surfaces other than a windshield? It loosens and falls over if you attempt to use it on say a table top. They include a funny little black plastic coaster which you are supposedly to stick to your dashboard (not my car thank you). Regardless I tested it and it will not hold to that either. However I stuck it to the windshield at it holds! Go figure??
The power switch...is quirky, you have to hold it down to get a screen that indicates shutdown or reset...I tap the shutdown but it seems to reset as the date and time are always wrong after you do it. If you tap the on-off switch, it just goes into sleep mode. What the true issue is I am not sure but I did report this odd behavior as maybe it is just my unit.
Bluetooth...Tried to bond with my brand new Motorola RAZRv3 and it goes off into some Mio never-neverland. The phone indicates it bonded, but the Mio just has this cryptic "..waiting for device.." message that you cannot get out of unless you shutdown...and of course it resets! I have asked their tech support but I am sure it will be my phone that they will claim is the problem or "atmospherics". Not a big deal to me since it seems a lot more work to set up than to just flip open the phone and use it. Did not try using it with headphones (don't have any) so perhaps that works better.
Accuracy...It was very accurate as far as I could tell locally. The speaking voice was ok for the most part. The display was crisp and relatively uncluttered. But the menus and logic I am struggling with. Trying to enter a destination seems to be a chore and not straightforward and confusing. But in fairness I have had it less than a week so we shall see. SImplicity it is not as others have indicated.
The manuals...come in two parts, 1 for the hardware and 2nd for the software Mio Map. Both are on the CD so you have to print them or read them on a PC. The Hardware is better but both are obviously translations that sometimes make no sense. You'd think by now that someone who is more fluent in the particular language would proof it as this is clearly a European product.
Accessories...if you are looking for a case or another mount, forget it. Nobody seems to carry anything for Mio's. I asked (tech support) about this and they directed me to a couple web sites and Mio has one but be prepared for sticker shock. I had to calculate from Euro's but it seemed that the cheapest, case they had amounted to $43 whereas you could get one for a Garmin or Tom-Tom for $10..everything was very pricey and mostly out of stock on there own web site. Something tells me that it is a work in process but why anyone would put a product out there and no aftermarket support escapes me.
Overall in some areas this could be a terrific product, but in others it seems lacking. I'll see how the tech support deals with the bluetooth and power switch rest issue. Price is aggressive but the aftermarket support is not there at all. So I put this on the borderline. If Garmin meets them in price you are probably better off with the Garmin but it is good to have some competition. Perhaps the next generation will solve the problems but usually if you have less good experience, you are not likely to try it again.Updated
After a couple of weeks with the unit my basic opinion remains unchanged. This could be a terrific product but it needs some work. Tech Support was not very helpful and no follow up even when asking for additional info. I am not sure why, but they really do not seem to interested. They also like to refer issues to some other department (aka sounds a little like the run around) to evaluate your problem but again, no follow up so I submitted the same complaint again. Perhaps the big issue is no N America support.Updated
After several calls to the customer support center and explaining in detail the issues I encountered (battery life 60 minutes, cannot be used when the car charger is plugged in, bluetooth inoperable, Mio agreed to give me an RMA...but the catch was you had to get it in an email and of course they never sent it. Called back a couple of times, but it was obvious that it was a game..So I went back to the retailer who gladly accepted the return and credited my purchase towards a Garmin nuvi 350. Not as many features, but hopefully a better experience. BUY THIS PRODUCT AT YOUR OWN RISK. IF YOU NEED SUPPORT YOU WILL FIND IT A FRUSTRATING, UNPRODUCTIVE EXPERIENCE!"$25 for new maps when they come out" on by jetmaxj
Pros: Cheaper is not always better...
Cons: no free map updates. $25 DVD every time
Summary: MIO does not offer free maps, or even downloadable inexpensive map updates. You have to shell out $14.95 + $9.95. Be ware of ongoing map update purchases.
"Best Value for the Money by Far" on by mikefromnj
Pros: Screen Size, Bluetooth, TTS
Cons: None Really
Summary: This is my third Mio. I have owned the C310X and the C710. The C520 is my favorite by far. I love the widescreen display and the Texct to Speech. It comes with newer maps (2006.10) and you can't find any GPS with the same features for any price close to this. I am hoping that Mio USA updates the maps frequesntly and that they start selling the TMC cradle. Overall a great unit!
"Nice Gps, good price, 4:3 sreen" on by radiculus
Pros: Sweet, everything works perfect NY
Cons: Learning curve is steep when compared to other gps
Summary: I was thinking of getting a Gps as a gift. I read several reviews about this product and also the Garmin Nuvi Gpss. Now i am not taking anything away from Garmin, but the Mio c520 rocks. I got this for 320 off ebay and i couldn't have made a better choice. I am having a blast using it. It is very accurate. It also speaks the name of the street, not just "Turn LEft in 30 ft" but the actual street name. I paired it with my bluetooth phone and was able to make and receive calles thru the unit. The volume is loud. If you are a first time user of GPS the learning curve for it will take a bit longer than traditional GPS. But the end result will be the same. Also the screen is great 4:3" and with a touch can be converted to a 3:5 with the the rest showing information E.G speed, distance ....
I have only used the nuvi 660 for a short time over a freinds house, but this Mio takes the cake hands down. When one compares the price to the amount of features. This is a good deal. The only con as i said before was that with the Garmins it took me around an 1 hr to become comfortable using it. With this it was 3 hrs. After the 3 hrs it was smooth sailing.
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