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"Sony claws back to the portable media market" on by chrisjothi
Pros: Music sound quality, vastly improved user interface, great camera, tons of features, smart physical design, long battery power, I could go on and on...
Cons: One of two generations away from being an iPod beater
Summary: I won't lie, I'm a Sony fan. Have been for years. When I was at school, I would take the Sony catalogue with me and look at each of the hundreds of products and admire the constantly evolving designs and technologies this company offers. Sad, I know.
There are two things that made Sony what it is today; televisions and Walkmans. Their TVs were and still are today the standard by which all TVs are measured by. And Walkmans, well, they revolutionised the way people listened to music. And of course they are now good, if not the best, at many other things, from video gaming to professional video cameras used by James Cameron and Michael Mann!
The company however has always annoyed a number of people by unnecessarily introducing proprietary formats. Some good, some bad, but ONE company alone will always find it hard to win public support with a format if it is not supported by other manufacturers. This was highlighted by the company's biggest EVER mistake, encapsulated in one word: ATRAC.
Sony were slow to the MP3 market. In the beginning they shunned it, devoloping the MD and Discman lines whilst Napster was taking on the world. It took computer companies like Creative and Apple to introduce MP3 players whilst the likes of Panasonic, Sony and Philips failed to embrace such a simple concept. Sony were so complacent that they built their own audio compression format, ATRAC, which could only be made by Sony's own Sonic Stage software, and played by Sony's hardware. The software was absolutely appalling, and did not really improve on MP3's already strong compression rate. It was cumbersome to use, and next to the hip image of an emerging iTunes, and the ever improving iPod, Apple did not just overtake Sony, they pretty much obliterated them out of a market they dominated. Heck, they invented the portable audio market.
Come 2005 and Sony execs are looking at themselves wondering what happened to their once-guranteed hundreds of millions a year. They quietly admitted to themselves that they blew it. But their other markets were thriving. Look at the PSPs, the PS2 and upcoming PS3. Look at their Bravia HD displays. Look at their groundbreaking HDV cameras. Sony are kicking butt, but Discmans and MD players are no longer a top 5 option for ANYONE. It is either an iPod video, an iPod shuffle, an iPod nano (get my point) or maybe, for those somewhat bored, a Creative whatchamacallit!
But they have found a way to use the Walkman brand, by using cutting edge technology and simple, ingenious design, and incorporating a music player in their line of phones.
The W810i is one of the more recent additions to an ever-expanding line of sublime phones and I've got to say "it is amazing!"
This phone, unusually so from Sony, allows a great deal of flexbility in terms of how the user can import and export data. The phone boasts a memory stick port, which is such a massive feature, because this means you can replace it with a 2GB stick (4GB is now available, but let prices fall before you buy one). 2GB!!! We may no longer be impressed by such a figure, but may I remind you that with an average 4 minute, 4 MB MP3 we are talking a ridiculous 500 song/45 albums capacity. That's an iPod nano my friend! Hook up your phone via USB and two drives pop up on your computer, the memory stick and the phone's internal drive, and just like your own HDs, you simply drag and drop data from folder to folder. It's brilliant, and obviously lends itself well as a USB stick for students. This means you can use it with PC and Macs, unlike an iPod, and it is not restricted to working with ONE program, unlike an iPod, although iTunes does rock!
So just how good is the Walkman feature? Well, it is very similar to the iPod interface, and whilst it may not boast the brilliant iPod navigation wheel it still has some effectively positioned buttons that allow volume change, starting and pausing music and skipping back and forth tracks. They are in the perfect place, and I commend the designers, because this is where the phone truly excels; ergonimics. With such a vast array of features, it must take a pretty smart bunch of people to make it anything but a hassle to use. The devoted Walkman button transports you to Artists/Albums/Playlists etc etc. You can change the equalizer, you can send your tracks via Bluetooth/Infrared to other people, you can basically have fun.
Sound wise? It sounds damn good. Is it hi-fidelity? No, not by a long shot (but then, neither are iPods!). It comes with good earphones, but I like good sound, so will use my best phones, and encode at a slightly lower compression to cull the best performance from this hardware. It does not sound as good as an iPod, but this is a very personal opinion. The differences are marginal, but this, unlike an iPod, does so much MORE!
A test of whether this is a direct competitor with an iPod is whether, if you took away all the other features and were left with just the Walkman feature, would it be good enough, and the answer is yes. It can improve. It would be great if Apple would allow iTunes to work with other players, because integrating the W810i with iTunes would be phenomenal. The W810i could improve by showing the music artwork, having MORE control over how your music is played, and I would argue to somehow make the menu less cluttered, although it is already well designed. The small details Apple lend their products are great, so if Sony could change the font or anything, to make it a LITTLE bit more streamlined I think it would be more or less perfect!. A great extension to this would be allowing Walkman phones to be dockable in cars like the iPod is, so drivers can control the songs through their stereo. Basically it is a great product, and Sony needs to think big like Apple so it can really stop people buying iPods!
Next up is the 2 MP phone, which, for a phone, is remarkable (and is now no longer the biggest, with Nokia's N80 offering 3MP). Compared to the first batch of dedicated 2 MP cameras, this wipes the floor with most of 'em. It does not come close to any dedicated digi cameras on the market today, but I took some pictures this past weekend that were full of colour and detail. It is impressive stuff, and serves perfectly well for a number of applications. Yes it is grainy, no there is no optical zoom, but it has a macro feature, which is amazing. Noise is naturally evident, and I won't be taking my holiday photos with it, but considering where we were two years ago with camera phones it has to be said it no longer is a gimmick. In a year or two cameras on phones will be able to take pictures comparable to point and shoot digicams, and that my friends is a fact. Please look here at a picture I took with the w810i! (http://www.auff11.dsl.pipex.com/w810i.jpg). Looks good, doesn't it! The phone comes with flash, white balance, macro, panorama, nightshot, and a number of other features. The video camera is subpar, so I guess another year or two will mean DV quality cell phones coming own way!!!
Another massive plus is the RDS radio. Reception seems to vary, but once it hooks onto a strong signal it sounds very good, and if you have RDS services it will show you the name of the station.
As for the phone. Well you got simple navigation towards your address book. Text messaging and calling is straightforward. The person on the other end of the line sounds good. C'mon guys. This is the EASY bit!!!
I wish I could comment on the internet capabilities of this camera but my service provider still charges too much for surfing the web via my phone, and I find the whole experience a bit boring and slow. Mobile internet still has some way to go before it can really be an attractive proposition for me HOWEVER, the RSS reader function will certainly serve me well if I want a quick headline from the BBC website.
You see, when you have a camera, a phone, a Walkman, internet, text messaging, radio, games etc all in one package, that because of consumer demand needs to be small, be light, pack in a colour screen, long lasting battery and removable media, then you have to wonder how it will all work together. Sony have done brilliantly here, and as technology becomes more and more advanced (smaller, lighter, quicker, brighter etc) phones will continue to evolve. They are clearly the best place to find the latest technology, and the W810i may not be cutting edge, but it is certainly the king for the moment. Apple better watch out. Sony want their crown back. Thankfully there will be only one true winner, and that's us consumers! -
"Great Phone with awsome features (i own the phone)" on by oofade2blackoo
Pros: Looks Good, Good sound quality, nice camera , comes with 512 card standard, good battery life
Cons: Ringer could be a little bit louder
Summary: This is an overall great phone my favorite so far, i dont know what cnet means by it being avalible 2nd, 3rd quarter its out right now and you can buy it at most online retailers or ebay. But it has everything you could want in a phone, its also alot smaller then i thought it would be, I didnt have any problems with call quality but that might have somthing to do with them being in San Fran but overall this is a probaly one of the best phones out there right now if not the best. The only phone i own w/o any complaints, ive had : Motorola 680, e398,slvr, razr, mpx 220, Sony Eric: s710, w810 and the w810 is the best one out of all of them,i really cant find anything that bothers me or that i dont about the phone.
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Im on the T-mobile network and live in Cali but havent had any dropped calls, i know there are alot of people who do have this problem, im sure by the time the phone is offically released then the problem will be fixed also, the batter last me about 2 days of nomral, be sure to fully drain your phone when your 1st get it and then fully charge it that effects your batter life.Updated
I havent had a problem with dropped calls, but i am aware the some phones have this problem, i suggest to people who want this phone to wait for the US release by then the problem will be fixed, also battery life last me about 2-3 days with normal usage be sure to fully drain your battery then fully charge it, that gives you the maximum capacity for battery life. As for sound quality.....USE DIFFERENT HEADPHONEs, im sorry but for people who complain about the camera all i have to say is this...Its a camera phone you want better pictures buy a digital camera.Updated
If you send your phone back to sony they will replace it with a new one free of charge, also the new phones have this problem fixed. -
"Plenty of features to keep you busy for days" on by aahonari
Pros: Please read below
Cons: Please read below
Summary: Pros: The phone is small and very ergonomic. Music quality is very satisfactory both thru the OEM headset and phone's built-in speaker. Camera quality is above average. Under good lighting conditions, graining is barely noticeable. Flash light works great. Radio has great quality. The phone has tons and tons of smart features that will keep you occupied and pleased.
Cons: A mobile phone regardless of how many tricks it can do is useless if it doesn't do the one thing it is suppose to do – to let you talk without interruption. I use Cingular service and I have had the phone for about 3 days now. In three days on almost every conversation the phone suddenly dropped my call. I am in the process of discussing this with SE and Cingular support. I am guessing it has something to do with the Edge technology. If not, then the interface is faulty and I would strongly suggest that you wait for the later rounds of distribution (when the bugs have been reported and fixed). Battery also doesn’t last no where near 7 hours of talk time. ( I haven’t uploaded my mp3 files on the phone yet, so I can’t tell you how long it would last using the phone only in Walkman mode). Make sure that you discuss the parameters with respect to your network capabilities and the phone’s adaptability. -
"Very Nice phone" on by beltzjt1
Pros: Walkman, Camera Quality, Browser, Modem, light sensor, calendar
Cons: no bluetooth headphones, screen gets dirty, can't get streaming video
Summary: This is a great phone. I did a lot of research on cell phones before purchasing this one. I have cingular service in Wash, DC area. Paid $430 at simoncells.com. I see it is now $400 and it has only been three weeks.
1. Camera is very nice. I agree with other reviews as it will not replace your digital camera. Picture are pretty clear though. Not so good in low lighting. Burst mode is cool. It can take 4 pics in a row and you can select the best. So no closed eye pictures.
2. Walkman: Very clear, very easy to use, excellent storage capacity with memory stick duo. I have the 512 Mb that comes with it. I just copy my mp3's from music folder on to the duo card. Very easy. Haven't tried my ipod files, but I think they work.
3. Browser: With EDGE, browser is pretty fast. I mostly browse through Cingular express, but mobile.google and my OMA access to work email also work great. pages render in approximately 4-5 seconds. Make sure you download the internet access software program from Sonyericsson.com or you can not browse. Same for email client.
4. Modem: Sony software made it very easy for me to use the phone as a broadband modem for my laptop. During a recent business trip, I connected from several different airports to conduct some business. Worked flawlessly and I got speeds at over 100Kbps. Sweet.
5. Calendar: Calendars synch very easily with my outlook calendar. Does have to be connected to PC for this(or bluetooth)
6. Flashlight: I guess this would be cool in a JAM. Very Bright.
7. Battery life: Not as good as I hoped. With frequent calls and browsing, I believe one day is all I will ever get. I am ordering an additional battery today.
8. Call Quality. Average. Not great but not bad either. Same with the wired headset that came with it. I do not have a bluetooth headset yet. My girlfriend does not think I sound as good as I did on my Samsung basic phone with Verizon Service.
9. Ease of use. Only problem I have is getting video in the proper format to play. I think it needs to be .mp4. I have not accomplished this yet. Also remember to visit sony ericsson site to download updates and necessary software. After that, everything was easy enough.
10. FM Radio with RMS. Radio works OK, reception is not fantastic, but this is a nice option when you get bored with your own music. RMS is the technology that gives you name and artist of song playing if the station supports this.
11. Light Sensor: is pretty cool. automatically adjusts brightness of screen and turns keypad lighting on and off. Mine did not work on first phone. I returned it and the replacement worked.
12. Screen: Is clear and colorful. Gets dirty easy because ot is flush with the rest of the phone. I ALWAYS have fingerprints.
13. Memory: The 512 MB additional storage is great. i will most likely upgrade and hget an additional 1GB card.
14. Video: Only plays one or two formats. I am pretty computer savy and I did not get this to work yet. I'm sure I will when I sit down and work on it for a while, but it is not simple. Also, with my Cingular service, I can not get streaming video. The protocol cincular uses for this in my area is not available on my phone.
15. Contacts: Sych with outlook contacts. I will store all numbers in outlook for backup and synch my phone with that.
16. games: I am not a gamer, but there are tons of games available with the JAVA program that comes with this phone.
17. look: I think the look and size are perfect. I am in my thirties and I work as a consultant, so I did not want anything flashy. This phone is stylish, compact, and classy. The feel is very solid. Nice construction.
Overall a great phone. The few negatives that I point out are very minor and are greatly outweighed by the positives. I really like this phone. It is absolutely the best you can do in this size phone and in this price class. -
"Best phone I've had" on by darminiam
Pros: Great call quality, love the camera phone, mp3 playback is great, great wow factor from people.
Cons: Speaker phone is terrible, ring volumn is ok.
Summary: This is a great phone. The first thing I noticed after weeks of reading reviews and finally getting the phone is that this phone is a lot smaller than I thought. With all those features, I would think that the phone would be bigger. Initially, I thought this would be a bad thing since I'm have large hands, but it hasn't been a problem so far.
Call quality is great, but I do live and work in Los Angeles so it hasn't been a problem. Next week I'll be traveling so we will see how the call quality is like then. I'm on the T-Mobile network, and I haven't had any problems with them.
Mp3 playback is great. The walkman is fully featured, though you might have to take a little bit to become used to the way it works. You can create playlist on the fly (I created one while a friend was in line in the coffee shop). On the other hand, I do not like the included headphones. Fortunately Sony Ericsson took this into consideration cause the cord is actually two parts. The top half is the SE earpieces, the bottom half connects to the phone and it also has a microphone so that when a call comes in, you can just talk through that rather than pulling out your phone.
Camera is great... for a camera phone. I have no problems with it, it is great in a pinch and when you want don't want to take your camera with you.
Overall, this is a great fully featured phone and I recommend it to everyone. 512 mb makes sure that you have enough room to plenty of songs, videos and ringtones. Loving the phone.
One last thing, the reason that Cnet says this is coming out 2nd or 3rd quarter is because Cingular is bringing the phone over. So until then, you will have to get this online. Enjoy.


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