Nintendo Wii (original, Wii Sports bundle)

reply on January 28, 2009 by zelrio

Will you marry me?

reply on January 12, 2009 by someguynamedbob

if nintendo cam pwn face with a last gen powerd system. imagen what they can do with a super charged system!

reply on December 17, 2008 by dresdek

specs are useless if there's no fun games for the system, nintendo games are fun but they are limited, more third party support goes to 360 and ps3, nintendo is smart for introducing new novelty that entices the less experience gamer, but those gamers will stop using the wii compared to 360 & ps3 users who will use their consoles longer, time will only tell who is the real winner

reply on August 31, 2008 by ithomas94

that production cost list is inaccurate, as it does not include the prices for the wiimote, nunchuck, wii sports, and sensor bar, which would make the profit quite a bit less that you would think.

reply on November 14, 2007 by adg305

Nice Post, dragon2o00. I can actually trust somebody about video game comments.

reply on October 15, 2007 by ccatrip

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reply on June 7, 2007 by cadkison

Systems should have good graphics,smooth control,and great sound, but most important they should be FUN!!!! and Wii delivers in that department.

reply on March 20, 2007 by Jake Kornack

Man, you have way to much time on your hands when being in college. Your review was well written, but long. You even numbered it. Well i read to number 300 or so, then I realized it was only a 3 and fell out of my chair. Sence I'm only a kid, I'll have to save up for it by selling candy bars on a soccerfield, Can't just swipe a credit card over a desk. Thanks your helpful opinion, but I will have to read some other shorter opinions...

reply on March 14, 2007 by Cradelikz

I undoubfuly agree; have you ever seen a Toyota Celica do a Mustang bite the dust :P?<br>This is not the same case but the same metaforical explanation.<br>"Yeah!<br>The game looks stunning!!<br>The game sounds WOW!!<br>But the game plays like a tank in the sea :'( "<br><br>A true gamer doesn't really want crispy graphics and sound that's the plus you know, the game could be a cube that flies, but if it's smoothly played and way easy to be addictive to it<br>why expect more?<br>It's a game console meant to Revolutionize the way we (as wii :P) play games, not how do we hear or see it, or if it can play cd's (that's why we buy cd players, mp3's etc daa?). Not at all, it changes the way how we play them and feel them.<br><br>Words of True Gamer <img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/happy.gif" alt=":)"><br>Have a nice day

reply on March 12, 2007 by chickylfc

i agree with you. i've read a newspaper with some comment like this. With all the features in PS and Xbox, we just see Sony and Microsoft as an technology companies not a true game companies/developers. The true one is Nintendo because their aim is to innovate new kind of "GAME CONSOLE".

reply on January 10, 2007 by alison1daland

Congrats on writing a truly fabulous and right-on-the-money review!

reply on January 3, 2007 by hansuki

Well, you have a good point and I agree with you. BUT you should not review a system before it comes out and before YOU or someone you live with has one. I diddn't go to the trouble of looking through every comment. (I do have a life you know.) But I think we should not get caught up in specs either. Systems are for playing games. And if you say "well not really..." then maybe you should get a high end computer and hook it up to an HDTV and a Tivo. If your looking for games that are fun. The Wii has some great ones right now. I heard the PS3 and 360 have a few greats and the PS3 has one... But if you want to play really really fun games plus the virtual console. Then Wii is right for you. (IN MY OPINION.) Keep in mind I have never, EVER put a hand on a PS3 or X-Box 360. But from the reviews the individual systems have gotten and games. (Although it has been pretty close.) It seems to me that the Wii is a better buy... At the moment. The other systems I think need some time to mature. As does the Wii. The Wii says there will be online playability soon. But I don't know how your going to add it on to game disks... Maybe through your saved game on the memory? So anyway that is my opinion. Take it or leave it.

reply on December 29, 2006 by ferose2

"Nintendo is working hard to lower costs. They anticipate a lower costing system and lower costing games."<br><br>http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wii/wii-autopsy-discovers-manufacturing-cost-221736.php<br>http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/16/ps3_teardown/<br><br>If you compare that to PS3, Nintendo is ripping you off.

reply on December 20, 2006 by ferretboy88

All I ever hear about is how the ps2 sold over 100 million units because of the rpgs. And its true. Just over half the gamers love the rpgs like final Fanasy the best. The gamecube only had a few. People in Japan love those kind of games. If the Wii doesn't get its act together with the Rpgs than they will only sell 22 million units like the gamecube and they will be in 3rd place again. Even the first xbox had better turnbased rpgs than the gamepal. The Wii will sell a ton of systems just because of the gimmick and the novelty of the new control system but after people see the better games on the PS3 then the Wii will be done.

reply on December 12, 2006 by v4g

You do have a point there. Gaming is basically having affordable fun with your friends. <br>If you ask me, I want both fun AND cool graphics.

reply on December 5, 2006 by Watermark0n

Although HDTV is good, it isn't really important. The PS3 is 15 times more powerful than the Wii. The XBOX 360 is 13 times more powerful. Game developers are going to use that power to add innovative features that the Wii will never have. Seriously, the 360 is only 50 bucks more. It's not going to kill you. Also, you seem to equate HDTV with graphics quality, as if the graphics of all three systems are the same except for HDTV capability. This isn't true. The 360 and especially PS3 will have far better actual capability. The current PS3 titles aren't really truly representative of the consoles potential. And let me tell you, it isn't a GOOD thing that the currently bad Wii graphics are all the systems ever going to push, while we haven't even gotten to the paramount of the 360's and PS3's already good-looking titles (Even the ports for PS3 look great).

reply on December 3, 2006 by drew08867

While any number of things in his "review" may be valid, he wrote this before the system was out, and before it even got its correct name. Cnet please only open user reviews after a product has been released.

reply on November 25, 2006 by decjordan

Yeah, its not about the graphics or all the other crap.I myself have got a Xbox 360 but when my friends come round, nothing better than playing mario kart on the gamecube.Its not about graphics its about how fun the game is and i think thats why nintendo have a big chance in this.

reply on November 25, 2006 by gosciu555

This guy is totally right. this is a GAME CONSOLE not a MULTIMEDIA CENTER. it does what its suppose to. thats whats its all about. its simple and gets the job done.

reply on November 20, 2006 by saxplaya13

First off, I see that you posted this user opinion on May 22. HHmmmmm, odd, because the Nintendo Wii didn't even release until Nov. 19. That's interesting since it would have been impossible for you to play any games or even look at the Wii up close. You are right though, Nintendo has made highly efficient consoles in the past, and this is no different. But to be honest, there are other consoles out there that are theoretically better, or more efficient. When it comes down to the games and graphics, it's wonderful to play an amazing game and have fun, but it's even better to play a great game with hi-def graphics. Don't go ranting an raving like a fanboy about a company and its products as if they've brought heaven down to earth. The Wii is a great product in maybe 2 or 3 senses, while the XBOX 360 is a great product in 4 or 5 senses. The PS3 is probably the best next-gen console out so far, but its price range is through the roof. My point is, this product is not all you've cracked it up to be. People are wanting the best in the next-gen consoles. I know this review is about the Wii by itself, but its own ratings don't trully matter when it comes down to the important things. The REAL question is not about how good the Wii is, but rather how it compares to the other next-gen consoles on the market. Next time you write a review, please consider these things. And maybe even try looking at or even PLAYING the console before you right a gospel on it.

reply on November 19, 2006 by tnemat

1. To start off, i read in the comments section something along the lines of: (by the way, this was from a nintendo fanboy) "Loving Nintendo is like having a mental disorder". Can't argue with this guy!<br>2. "Furthermore, I need HDTV to truly enjoy any of this so called super-duper-graphics-that-none-of-you-can-live-without. Suddenly, if I don't have an HDTV, which I don't, nothing really matters anymore does it?"<br>1) Wrong. I could play a game on a 4:3 SD 480i CRT and buy it because of how good it was.<br>2) So gameplay, sound, online, brand, price, graphics (HDTV is one thing. Graphics Quality is another) don't matter? lol<br>3) If you think HDTV (or lack thereof) isn't a factor, why did you talk about it?<br>3. "Nintendo will use a developer kit very similar to gamecube. What does that mean? Nintendo has a huge advantage over developers for PS3 and Xbox 360. Why?"<br>1) Because they'll be unable to do much past the gamecube level. Wow...they're charging more for the Wii than the gamecube when the games are of equal quality...amazing!<br>2) THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE? WOW! Then I suppose living in a house is the same as living in a gutter. You still know how to develop ****. (by the way, that was somewhat of a metaphor, as most gamecube/wii games are ****)<br>4. "Nintendo 64 had the amazing 3-D environments."<br>1) And yet, you argue that graphics don't matter (more or less).<br>2) You have just proven that there is more to graphics than HDTV.<br>5. "One last note: a lot of you serious gamers are too caught up on the specs. "Oh...I'm worried for Revolution because it'll only be 2-3 times as powerful as Gamecube while Xbox 360 is 15 times more powerful than xbox." That doesn't mean squat."<br>So develolers can't do any better on the newer systems? Are you sure they can't do 15 times better?<br>6. "There aren't many must-have games for the xbox. The good ones are on gamecube as well (first to come to mind is Madden 2005)."<br>Must-have for Xbox that aren't on gamecube: Halo, Halo 2, Mechassault, Mechassault 2, Unreal 2: The Awakening, Unreal Championship, Unreal Championship 2, Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars: Battlefront II, Star Wars Republic Commando,<br>Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2, Rainbow Six 3, Project Gotham Racing, Project Gotham Racing 2, Pariah, Battlefield 2: Modern Combat,<br>Half-Life 2, Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike, Mercenaries, Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers, Full Spectrum Warrior,Doom 3, Deus Ex: Invisible War, Delta Force Black Hawk Down, Black<br>Must-have for gamecube that aren't on Xbox: Super Smash Brothers Melee, Super Mario Sunshine, Star Wars Rogue Squadron II, Star Wars Rogue Squadron III, Resident Evil 4, Mario Party 4-7, Mario Power Tennis, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2,<br>Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour<br>(Taken from my game library, my neighbour's library, ign, and ebgames.com)<br>There are several for the Xbox, but there are also many for the gamecube. Xbox wins, though. Forgive me if I made any mistakes about system-related existance.<br>"I am extremely excited to see what Nintendo has in store for us and like the guy at the conference said, 2 (or 20? the number escapes me) billion copies of games sold. That is more than any of the other companies can say."<br>1) 2 billion games? Wow. What kinds of drugs (crack, cocaine, meth, etc.) are you on? There aren't even that many gamecubes in existance (are there? LOL!don't think so)! And don't even propose 20!<br>2) Yeah, the other companies can't say that. They aren't that full of ****.<br>"It's not the size of the whale but the motion of the ocean, my friends"<br>Literally: What the hell are you talking about?<br>Far-stretched metaphorically: Whale: Quality of the system in relation to current demands. Ocean: Current demands (price, HDTV, good graphics, surround sound, good audio, good gameplay, good AI, good services like online, good availability, good games/# of games,etc.)<br>Gamecube got blown away, PS2 Xbox held on to different rafts. Wii will get blown away, PS3 and 360 Will hold on, but PS3 will have a couple of touch-and-go monents.<br>Thank you for a terrible article full of errors.<br><br>By the way, I've owned/played: NES (sold), SNES(sold), N64, Gamecube(sold), Game Boy Colour(sold), Nintendo DS(sold), Xbox(sold), Xbox 360, PS1(sold), PS2, and a PC<br>I have a very slight preference in the order of : PC, closely followed by 360, closely followed by PS3, closely followed by the Wii. Thank you.

reply on November 17, 2006 by penguin957

This review was written when wii was back in it's fetal stages. This means that he wasn't wrong when he called it the revolution, because they changed the name to Wii a while after he posted this. He does have some good points in it because I doubt Wii will have as many bugs in the first shipment as the 360 and the PS3 (none officially announced yet). This is made possible because while the PS3 and Xbox 360 were going in to a hardware area that no one had ventured before, (ex. Cell processor, Blu ray, hardware that causes overheating) Wii took the route of using what is there and changing how games are played with the Wii remote and such.

reply on November 17, 2006 by Zelda99

The article was posted on may 22 2005, 2005 you bozos, so he put Revolution because they didnt rename it yet. geeze, besides his article is right, and most of it is just personal opinion, not that many facts are written.

reply on November 15, 2006 by Ryo Hazuki

1) Yes, price is extremely important, but value is more, IMHO: PS3 and, especially, Xbox 360 have more value, IMHO.<br><br>2) In trying to revolutionize the way people play games, they will put away hardcore gamers, IMHO.<br><br>3) Developers in general have recently stated that the Nintendo API's and dev kits are, in fact, very good, but that Microsoft's API's and Xbox 360 dev kits are actually better, with PS3 being somewhat criticised.<br><br>4) Nintendo is taking advantage of its huge history, Microsoft is taking advantage of many companies' huge history with Xbox Live Arcade.

reply on November 14, 2006 by sapphirus

Its not called the revolution its called the Wii

reply on November 13, 2006 by abedel2

True the graphics for ps3 games arent going to be cutting edge,, for now,as te cnet reveiw said, it will take a while for the software developers to catch up to the hardware, just look at the ps2, xbox, and gamecube, compare the first games that came out for those systems to the latest games, True I am not going to buy a Ps3 now, why beocuse it is going to have glitches that are going to need to be fixed, same with the Wii, also, there is going to be a better selection of games that have used the graphics of the PS3 better, One thing that you forget os the price tag of the Wii is 250 dollars, thats allot of money for a basic system like this, doesnt play DVD/CDs, small internal memory, and old gen graphics, your'e telling me there charging this high price for the innovative remote come on man, I know I am going to eventually buy a Ps3 becouse of the promise it has, but Wii doesnt have any promise in my opinion in the sole reason of the price there charging for their system, 600 is worth it with everything they have loaded inside, 250 aint worth it becouse of nothing they have inside

reply on November 11, 2006 by Honchy

u are so stupid, at the end you say "the xbox only has a few must haves" and that is such a lie: halo, halo 2 on live(the greatest experience in the world, definitely a must have), ninja gaiden and so many others. Worst of all youre comparing it to the gamecube that was a real piece of human wastes, i mean if super smash bros. meelee hadnt kicked in, the GC wouldnt of survived... i saw a console review in the middle of the current gen console war and it said the GC had a c- even the game boy was better!you might want to get a wii but after how sucky the gamecube was, i dont trust nintendo any more. especialy with the great service Xbox Live is.

reply on October 8, 2006 by Jac1287

Well spoken, I could not agree more. Especially referring to all the focus on HDTV-this, progressive-scan-that talk. I have an HDTV and 5.1 sound and all that good stuff and no matter how much things PS3 and 360 include in their "computers", it doesn't sway my outlook on Wii one bit. Too much focus has been given to graphical capabilty and technological inclusions,rather than functionaly and ultimate utility of the systems. I personally am an avid gamer and looking more towards the Wii. Why? Because the last game that i could sit down and involve most of my family members in was Tetris(for the Super Nintendo!) and we still play that to this day. So i hope that this will once again be possible with the Wii launch.

reply on September 29, 2006 by djremix72

Why do we sit here and squable over the graphics. Heck, I love to sweet realistic graphics, but I also love just playing games. I still have an N64 sitting at my house and guess what. Every time my friends or family members come over we start playing the N64. Mario Party 2 and we love it. The game is 7 years old and yet, I still love playing it with my cousins. Now what was the other console that was around with N64. Oh year, PS1. You seen any people still playing PS1. Absolutely not. Why because the PS1 only was good because of graphics, the N64 was good because of gameplay. Don't get me wrong the Xbox 360 is sweet, but I would have more fun playing a more simple and enjoyable game with my friends, then sitting there playing Call of Duty 2 by myself.

reply on September 24, 2006 by mrsnes

look you stupid xbox360 and ps3 nerds you are all fooled by xbox and playstations.all your comebacks are "oh well um well xbox and playstation have more ram horsepower eh er eh", well what good is that that "horsepower" when it isnt even used, its exactly the same as having a 1000hp engine in a car that isnt even connected to the driveshaft. in other words that excess power that you all talk about wont even be used to its full potential, on the other hand nintendo are smart enough to realise that they dont need all of that crap involved, instead they focus on what can be achieved with the latest technology that THEY create and not copy. people that are loya to PS and xbox are either NERDS or stupid school jocks that don't know an better.<br><br>Oh and lets not forget reliabilty. Nintendo would have to be one of the most reliable brands on gaming to this date. A few years ago i bought an xbox(very regretful) and now it doesnt work,haha and something thats even more funny is i have a SNES that is over a decade old and it has been thrown and dropped down stairs, booted from my dad,knocked, shoved, pissed on by my cat you name it and it still works like a charm. you know that little thing you see on every nintendo product, " original nintendo seal of quality" thats not there for looks, they mean it.<br><br>Now to the games, nintendo has the biggest library of original and quailty characters and games. and no its not all kids games!!!.<br><br>And to wrap up this comment its not all about who can inject the most horsepower into a console its the thought and technology put into it and nintendo don't lower their price because its of a lower standard its because they like having a reputation of not ripping people off and they make their money through their quality games such as Zelda.<br><br>The Wii is gonna kick ass and i know you school jocks and nerds are gonna be to arragent to agree with me so im gonna let you do your own thing.<br><br>Nintendo fans no exactly whatim talking about and your not alone

reply on September 11, 2006 by theInterstate

Gamecube was a huge flop compaired to Xbox and PS2. Why? Well, this is pure speculation (no matter who you hear it from), but I think CNet was pretty close when they said it was because they couldn't get much involvement from outside sources for their software. Personally, I didn't know about that when making my decision on which system to purchase. I went with the cold, hard hardware facts... graphics, actually. I also chose the largest software company in the world. I also decided that ability to play CD's and DVD's on my machine were important. If those hardware issues weren't important to 60% of the market, then why did that Gamecube do so poorly? I think your figures are more opinion and emotion oriented than factual. If Nintendo wanted to revolutionize gameplay, they should have thought about what made the other systems so successful and then built off of that platform. The two major changes that Xbox and Playstation brought the the market that Gamecube failed to utilize were graphics and sound... If those things didn't matter to the majority of the public, why exactly does the consumer-driven market continue to adopt newer technologies at the expense of buying all new stuff. Why is VHS obsolete? Why is 480i DVD on its way out? Why is HDTV becoming the norm for TV's? Every new technology goes through its expensive stage, and this will be no different. Why are games going up in price? Well, you can blame that on inflation, my friend.<br><br>All in all... I wish Nintendo put more into the hardware and less into visual design of the actual system. The original Xbox looked like an oversized shoe box, but it did well because of its capabilities. There were no gimics, no neat little designs or colors, nothing like that. The unit was bulky, drab, and loud. Imagine if Nintendo utilized HD technology AND that controller of theirs... Imagine if they hinged their success on TWO things rather than one. Imagine if they actually had the funds to do so... I'm not an "extreme gamer," but I'm a man, and I have a hard time leaving horse power on the table. I read CNET reviews, Consumerreports.org reviews, and anything else I can to see which tech toy is going to be the most powerful, last the longest, and get me the most bang out of my buck. The Wii will probably be a purchase I make from a nearby garage sale 2 or 3 years from now when Nintendo finally calls it quits, and follows the path of SEGA by doing what it does best: video game production. Let's leave the hardware developement to those who take it seriously and go after a market that has money rather than spoiled children. How many families do you know who will gather around the Nintedo for family night fun? Geeze... I don't know a single one!<br><br>PEACE!!!

reply on August 14, 2006 by jizad825

Just a short comment. The more powerful a console is means a lot not squat. Better graphics help games become more immersive but lets eliminate talk of graphics. More power makes it possible to continue to innovate. Just a few examples; more intelligent artificial intelligence, larger game worlds, the ability to have many more characters on screen at once not all doing the same thing but each with its own AI, faster loading times, HDTV support which you and many others may not care for but gamers who do own HDTV's do care. Now I have listed just a few but very valid reasons for more powerful consoles without a mention of graphics. That power allows developers to move forward and create new, original gaming experiences. I also agree that developers learn to take full advantage of a console over time. The games continue to get better but eventually there is only so far to go with current technology. You could argue that new consoles are released before the previos has had time to be fully exploited. I agree. But that is not a reason not to continue to release the newest technology.

reply on May 31, 2006 by gdog101

I thought I was the only one that cared about Nintendo,but I guess not!You are so right all that high tech stuff doesn't matter what matters is that the gamer feels comfortable playing a game and not worry about how they don't have the high quality sound or picture to get the best out of game.It's all about enjoying yourself and having fun with your friends.

reply on May 24, 2006 by noncompliant

you're silly if you think that "extreme gamers" are a small contingeny. and even sillier if you think they aren't looking forward to this system even more than you. yes,nintendo made a larger effort to drag in as many new consumers as humanly possible, but that's just good business. after how poorly their last system did, they need something to catch the eye of those who normally don't play video games, as well as try to reinvent themselves for the the gamers who used to be loyal to nintendo, but left for bigger, better systems. they didn't take this route thinking that they were going to foresake their biggest fanbase (hardcore gamers) for a bunch of people with ADD who may barely even play, even though they think their new console is nifty. this isn't simply a simple man's gaming console. it's merely a console that is meant for EVERYONE to enjoy. but that was also their intention with the Gamecube i believe.<br><br>as for the development kits, using practically the same ones isn't the greatest idea. sure, developers will be extremely familiar with them, but what drives them to push harder if they've already been there and done that on the Gamecube? relying on their revolutionary gameplay mechanics alone instead of also improving their graphics could be a very bad idea. The Wii could go two ways; it could either be a revolutionary system that, despite having very similar graphics to the last generation's consoles, brings a new level of gameplay to the table...or it could turn into a console with gimmicky games that are hardly any better than those we played on Gamecube, with barely any improvement to the graphics whatsoever, making them pointless to play when you have games available with graphics that blow you away.<br><br>As for downloading old games to them...everyone will be very excited about this feature, and it will probably increase the number of consoles sold a great deal, but it will not make people want to buy their games, and as everyone knows, the companies who make consoles make NEGATIVE profit off the sale of their consoles, money they make back by pushing their software. so the nostalgia will be great for the 5 seconds it lasts...but we'll have to wait and see if their new content is any better than the lame stuff they put out for Gamecube.<br><br>Nintendo was revolutionary for advancing video games...in it's time. all the things you credited them for, they weren't always the first to do. sometimes they just followed the power curve. i think they pretty much stopped being the revolutionary ones when the original playstation, and then the Xbox came into play. Playstation revolutionized 3d graphics, and Xbox introduced coherent online gaming to consoles. not to mention that RPG's weren't even mainstream until Playstation was lucky enough to host FF7...before that RPG's were so underappreciated that most of them would never even come out in the states...even the precious Final Fantasy series had an RPG that never saw the light of day in the US. people were never really into them.<br><br>Nintendo has a lot to prove, and just like every new console does, the Wii(despite the lame name change) 'sounds' very promising, but that's what marketing is about: promise them the world, deliver what you can, and make excuses for the rest.

reply on May 24, 2006 by kero351

As it name implies, the Nintendo Wii (was revolution) is a console for all. Its a console anyone from toddlers to grandparents can enjoy. When I look at the up and coming systems, they seem cold, uninviting, and too much of an investment when the average system life is about 5 years. Nintendo has had its success from the beginning for the following reasons:<br><br>1) Innovation. Nintendo has always been the fore runner of innovation. Examples include NES, game boy, N64, DS. these all brought new frontiers to the gaming industry. Oh and lets not forget shortly after the reveal of the new controller by Nintendo, Sony came up with a similar technology to theirs. And wonder why they don’t (or rather cant) have rumble in their controllers? They didn’t invent it. Know who did? Nintendo. And god knows the only thing Xbox did was populate Hard drives in consoles (I still and neutral toward these because they aren't exactly that impressive with today’s tech) that and Halo (still one of the only games really going for the system).<br><br>2) Cost. Nintendo has always made sure their product was reasonably price. If you notice, every Nintendo console has had the same launch price of $199. Never a dollar more. Take a look at other systems launching at $300. Game cost? Look again $30-40 Nintendo average $40-60 and now as much as $80 for others. PSP vs. Game boy? Lets take a look. The game boy is relatively cheap. Millions of people own them. Games... as low as 20 bucks (30-40 DS). PSP is, in comparison, grotesquely priced considering it is merely a ps2 shoved into smaller casing. No major technology changes. No major inner design work. Just some downsizing, Some batteries, and “UMD” media. All for 300 at launch? oh wait and that doesn’t even include a game at that price. Oh and the games are 50 bucks? And there’s a cable you have to buy to put stuff on the included memory? Come on now. That just revolting. The games aren’t even that different from the ps2. There are no major changes, just a "new screen ratio". Oh wow, those ratios are hard to make... better charge double value! And home systems... the 360 launched it had two packages, one where its barebones (essentially) and one with what you need to function (comfortably) and a game. How much was the "deluxe"? $500. Wow totally worth it right? Wrong. The prices for technology increases (or *ahem* rather lack thereof) are one of the greater wrongs in the gaming community! Graphics? What good are they when you can only afford one game?<br><br>3) Practical. Nintendo never overkills on specs. If you notice the other systems are ALWAYS under there potential in regards to graphics in their games and such because developers cant, or wont, use the extra capacity... so why make the tech to charge the consumer if in fact the consumer wont get to use it. Nintendo knows that if you are going to buy a console, you usually will have another in about 5 years (life span of about any console before a new one). They don’t want to make you pay extra for potential that will be used for only (at best) one of those 5 years before games are discontinued for that system. Oh and HD? Not everyone has an HD television and probably wont for 20+ years. Stop trying to force it, it won’t work.<br><br>Now I notice a lot of people saying Nintendo has gone to the kids. Incase you didn’t notice, children make up a large number of the videogame demographic. And lets not forget children are what pushed videogames into popularity originally. So clearly any company with half a brain would notice that they need games (and a sufficient number I might add) that are kid friendly. This isn’t to say that Nintendo doesn’t make games for all ages, quite the contrary. However if your wondering why there are as many children’s games are out there as there are by Nintendo, you need to get hit in the head with a brick and die. You’re just stupid for asking such and obvious question.<br><br>Now back to my statement. Revolution... it is what this is codenamed after all... I think this is Nintendo’s next "revolution to the gaming world. A console for everyone. Not just game enthusiasts, not just kids, not just college jocks who are too stupid to do anything else... genuinely everyone.

reply on May 2, 2006 by yaddaX3

I am a hard core gamer but I'm sorry <br>I disagree with Natureboy on his sweeping value judgement.<br><br>most people will agree with the review by dragon2o00 that theres more to gaming than specs...and so do I.<br><br>Rock on man!

reply on May 1, 2006 by natureboy92135

Nintendo will be thrilled to hear they have the support of the gamers that are too cheap to buy either consoles or games. A few more brilliant consumers like yourself and they will be well on their way to Neo Geo/Jaguar world.

reply on April 29, 2006 by AuroraAlpha

I think you are giving them much to much of hte market, I would say maybe .5% of the gaming market are extreme gamers, and that it giving it to anyone who has bought a high-end card and played a PC game for a few hours (which really isn't an extreme gamer). However the world is full of newbs and wannabes, and these people claim to be extreme gamers even though they suck, because truthfully no extreme gamer would ever play on a console, they want the PC which they invested $2000+!

reply on April 23, 2006 by a1gevaldig

these expensive gaming are not interesting because of the price of the unit and the games

reply on December 29, 2005 by somogibbs

Those who say that graphics and HD are going to be the downfall of Nintendo's new console are usually the hardcore gamers. But yet it is many of these same hardcore gamers that love the early final fantasy and early Zelda games for what? Not the graphics, but the gameplay. Graphics are important, of course, but really how much further can you take it and how much is really necessary. I'm not willing to pay the X-Box launch price and definitely will not pay the PS3 launch price. I will buy the Revolution, though. Nintendo just has to, HAS TO, get the third party support for this new system. I only got a gamecube after the library of games swelled late into its life cycle. 3rd party support has to happen with this new console.

reply on December 3, 2005 by 1million$

Don't forget nintendo's new controller. It's going to be the best, so check it out.

reply on December 2, 2005 by daveboxley

Nintendos new remote control that you can waive like a sword looks great. Maybe Nintendo and MS should get together and collaborate on their next console who knows what the results could be

reply on November 25, 2005 by s9741827

I'm getting sick of all the revolutions bashing I've been hearing. I haven't purchased a system since a N64 but spend hours playing with friends on their PS2's, XBOX's and game cubes. At the very least once a year I have a month of retro gaming. I pull out my old NES which I purchased and installed a new 13$ connector for so no more blowing of games. I then pull out my enormous box of games and beat all my old favorites: contra, ninja ghaiden (sp), bionic commander, zelda, mario, rc pro am, etc. For a full month I, often joined by my friends, will sit playing 7 year old games while copies of 2006 shooters, football, basketball games sit unplayed for overpriced systems like XBOX and PS2. Two years ago for nearly a month we played mario 1 for NES trying to see how fast we could beat it in. 4 minutes and 27 seconds I believe was the record. All this while expensive pretty graphically superior consoles sat unused and disconnected.<br><br>As you said a minority of consumers care or even can take advantage of the high specs of these newer systems. From my experience there are four major gaming categories. One, the adult nerd with no life who cares about graphics. Two, the kid who sits at home all day and plays video games. Three, the frat boy adult who cares about being loud and playing with a bunch of his buddies. Four, the general casual gamer who will buy a system but play only a couple times a week and only with groups of friends.<br><br>Of these categories only one has SPECS as their absolute pinacle of priorities, the computer nerd with no friends who has lots of time to post nintendo-HATE all over the internet. The rest of the categories care how it feels to play the games with four players. Other than HALO (1,2) and a couple other spotty titles I don't know of many games for PS2 or XBOX that we've had as much fun playing as nintendo's quality 4 controller funners. The bottom line is the frat boys and nerds with no friends will likely be the main purchases of the XBOX 360. They've been brainwashed to believe xbox=cool by nerds who have no life and care only about specs.<br><br>I personally will be buying the Nintendo Revolution because I don't have room for my old NES and enormous box of games. If Nintendo Revolutions comes through and has a method of playing the old games on their system i'll buy it without even considering what new games they have. I’d love to even see an old controller adapter, I’m sure something can be wired up.

reply on November 13, 2005 by G0DJOEY

You sound like a Nintendo fanboy. You can only play those dated games so long. The key to a real "revolution" is EYE CANDY. I think you want subpar entertainment go for nintendo. They are the turbo grafx 16 of 2006. If you are a gamer you will remember they flopped. Welcome to the D day of nintendo. TEAMGOD.net

reply on October 26, 2005 by wizard_z5

I have been a huge nintendo fan ever since I could fit the old square nintendo controller in my hands. I purchased a gamecube the day it came out and have spent countless hours playing super smash brothers melee and other multiplayers with my 3 brothers. With all four of us in the same house the system gets its share of use. All that said, I am still not excited about the release of the nintendo revolution. Nintendo did make innovations on the gamecube. <br><br>One was Animal Crossing. A game that had a built in clock and guilted you into playing everyday. I hated this game but my eight year old sister could wish nothing more than to sit there for eight hours running around giving in to ever beccon and whim of her virtual neighbors. I think the world would have been better off without that game. <br><br>The second innovation on the gamecube was one far more grevious though. They made the gamecube so it could connect with the gameboy advance. Then they release games like Final Fantassy Crystal Chronicals. To take full advantage of this game you needed 4 gameboy advances and 4 connector cables in addition to your gamecube and game. Once you had all that you put it all together you realized that the game was still horrible. Then there was pokemon. Where you needed 4 gameboy advance games, two gameboy advances, 2 gamecube games, a gameboy link cable, a gameboy-gamecube adaptor, and your gamecube. Even, with all that you still wont be able to catch all the pokemon. To do that you must pre-order games, subscribe to nintendo power, attend special pokemon events all over the country, and visit the pokemon center in New York. Nintendo likes to milk its fans for all they've got.<br><br>The only game that worked with the gamecube and gameboy advance I liked was mario golf, and I don't think anyone else even knows about that.<br><br>Nintendos latest innovation is their nintendo DS. Which as a loyal nintendo fan I got the year it came out for christmas. They moved away from typical video game controls for a touch screen. With the poor selection of games and little hope for better, I sold my DS to buy a PSP. I love my PSP.<br><br>Well, my real point here is that nintendo has been innovative in their approach to video games recently. If you love your DS and nintendogs then you'll be happy owning a nintendo Revolution. If you don't like pokemon, animal crossing, or nintendogs. I'd say you'd better look into another system.

reply on October 23, 2005 by Homestarrunner

I don't get you people. How can you say that Nintendo isn't giving people what they want. Not everybody has the 400$ to hack up for the new xbox 360 and what about The PS3 they're not coming out until next holiday season. They're the ones missing the boat. And Nintendo made the gaming industry. don't try to deny that without them the industry would be same today. and another thing, when's the last time that xBox or Playstation tried anything new. For Example<br>Nes<img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/grin.gif" alt=":D">igital D-Pad<br>SNES:shoulder buttons<br>GameBoy: Portable Gaming<br>Gameboy Color: Color Portable<br>Virtual boy: Virtual reality<br>N64:Analog stick and unique controler<br>gamecube: GBA to GameCube link<br>revolution:controller, vintage game library<br>xBox and playstation are just a bunch of copy cats. And what sucsessful franchises do they own

reply on October 16, 2005 by takeover

i care about HD compatibility

reply on October 5, 2005 by Techno57

I agree with many of the things you say, how many people will play the Sony Play Station for longer than a Microsoft Xbox? Too many people get wrapped up with good looking games that suck in the game play department! I'm sure many of the systems have great graphics, and the system specifications are awesome for what I have seen but what exactly does it really mean? Will developers spend more time on great graphics and leave out the gameplay element? I think that with systems like these you can guarantee that many of the games that are available will be put to one side after say 1 hour of play. With Nintendo promising to be able to download and play games for older systems on the revolution, I think many people will be able to enjoy the system more. I know I may be harping on here but, I had a Sony PSP for my Christmas present and the missus has a Nintendo DS, so why did I enjoy playing the DS for far longer than the PSP? I think developers should look to increase system specifications but keep one thing in mind, great graphics may be one thing but great game play, keeps you coming back for more.

reply on September 22, 2005 by red_rushes_in

Nintendo haven't done a good thing since the SNES. They are always outdated behind the times It wouldn't suprise me if they went back to cartridges. Revolution...what a poor name for a crackerjack toy. Why would I want to pay to play Contra or Dino Riki I already have the cartidge so why would I spend money just to play something I already own??? Nintendo will just fall out of the home console race I have a feeling that this Revolution will get a whipping after the 360 and PS3 releases. Nintendo only stays aflot with there hand held devices. Golden Eye, Zelda.....Golden eye sucked it got old fast and Zelda was just a travesty to fans of the o.g. Nes and SNES games. Offical rating on this is a fat juicy turd on Nintendos corprate headquaters.<br><br>[Edited by: admin]