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Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz (discontinued)

Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz

Entered CNET Catalog: 06/11/2004

SKU: 0718908624654

Manufacturer: Apple Inc.

Manufacturer description

The creative class needs superior tools to produce designs, music, high-definition video or the next scientific breakthrough. The new Power Mac G5 line spans as far as you require. Its dual 64-bit G5 processors, room for up to 8GB of main memory, 8X SuperDrive and ultrahigh-bandwidth system architecture will give you more results than systems costing twice as much.

Product summary

The goodThe good: Fast; silent; elegant design.

The badThe bad: Minimal internal expansion; expensive; lackluster warranty.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: Creative pros and power users will salivate over the speed and the design of Apple's top-of-the-line Power Mac G5, but we wish it offered more expansion and better support.

Average user rating: from 55 users
4.0 stars

CNET editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 11/06/2004
The current Power Mac G5's industrial design--a gleaming, silent, almost spooky tower of power--will probably stand in museums long after Moore's Law sweeps away its components. And though we think Mac fans should give more consideration to Apple's tendency to overprice, underconfigure, and minimally support its desktops, including this top-of-the-line Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz system, it's hard to argue that the company doesn't have a knack for melding form and function. Based on the results of our new Photoshop and video encoding tests, the Power Mac G5 isn't the fastest PC to have graced CNET Labs, but we don't have any qualms about its performance. This powerful, dual-processor system can lay claim to being the most powerful Mac you can own, and it will well serve creative pros in terms of overall performance and presentation.

Flipping an elegant but sturdy latch opens the Power Mac G5's side panel, which slides off and on so smoothly, other case designers must envy it. The inside has an austere, extremely efficient layout that makes gaming PCs, with their flashing lights and glowing cables, seem as cheesy as the Caesar's Palace casino. There's nary a cable to be seen, brushed metal conceals the liquid coolant running through the heat sinks, fans spin silently, and the cavernous case has wide open spaces to enhance cooling and proper airflow.

As expected, the Power Mac G5 outperformed every other system in Apple's stable; it took top honors on our iTunes and Quake III tests. And it operated sufficiently fast while we worked with apps such as Final Cut Pro HD, Adobe Photoshop CS, and Sorenson Squeeze 4.0, as well as while performing routine tasks, such as calibrating the display with the ColorVision Spyder2Pro and burning discs. We did crash once while downloading video from a MiniDV tape and a few times with Squeeze, but the system recovered well, and it earns high marks for stability.

Apple's use of a last-generation memory bus and relatively low clock-speed chips, however, constrains its performance on these types of specialized apps. For instance, single-processor PCs with faster CPUs, such as the Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX and the Bully Computers Tyrant, handily outperformed the Power Mac dual 2.5GHz on our new Photoshop test, which is memory-bandwidth intensive: the Velocity Micro's 533MHz DDR SDRAM gives it a significant advantage over the Mac's 400MHz DDR SDRAM. The same holds true for our new, CPU-intensive video-encoding test, where a large gap in raw processing speed ultimately overwhelms the advantages of a second processor. The Power Mac G5 took 5.4 minutes to encode our test clip, 20 percent slower than the Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX's time of 4.5 minutes; the results don't look too bad, however, when you consider that the ProMagix's overclocked 3.7GHz CPU is 48 percent faster than the G5's 2.5GHz CPU.

Unfortunately, the Power Mac G5's design often opts for elegance over expedience. It has only a single bay suitable for an optical drive, which comes equipped with either a CD-RW/DVD-ROM or a DVD-R/CD-RW drive. We'd appreciate the option of having at least two optical drive bays, even if it meant losing some of the Power Mac G5's visual appeal. Though the system supports speedy Serial ATA hard drives, it can take only two internally, maxing out at 500GB. So if you're a creative professional--and especially if you work with video--you'll likely have to add a raft of devices externally.

The scarcity of external expansion made sense when we had daisy-chainable SCSI for the job: one port could support up to 16 devices. But this system supplies only three USB 2.0 ports and three FireWire ports (one FW800 and two FW400). On the upside, Apple sprinkles these hubs liberally around the work space. Another two USB 2.0 ports are available on the Apple Cinema Display, should you choose to bundle it with your Mac (ours came with the 23-inch model) and two USB 1.1 ports on the wired keyboard. If you decide to opt for a wireless keyboard and mouse, which Apple really should include for the price to begin with, you're down two USB ports; if you go with a less expensive display option, you're down another two ports. And regardless of which peripherals you choose, you won't find an option for adding a media-card reader to the system, a feature increasingly found as a standard option on PCs of all varieties these days. The Power Mac G5 includes dedicated ports for Bluetooth and Airport Extreme antennas (modules optional), however, and built-in Gigabit Ethernet and 56Kbps modem.

Nor does the Power Mac G5 allow for more powerful preconfigured options--and it should. The current maximum of 500GB (two 250GB drives) may seem like a lot of storage space, but you can use that up quickly working with media files. And while it's great that Apple supplies optical audio in/out ports, we think that for the money it charges, Apple should ship the system with a decent 2- or 2.1-channel speaker system, not just the internal speaker, and that it should offer more than just 5.1-channel speaker options.

The Power Mac's motherboard supplies three PCI-X slots, two 133MHz and one 100MHz, but at least three of the four graphics cards that Apple offers, including the 256MB ATI Radeon 9800 XT in our test system, have heat sinks that block the adjacent slot. Our test system also came with 4GB of memory configured in eight 512MB modules that occupied all the Power Mac's DDR400 memory slots. The baseline configuration for the Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz is $2,999, but the price for our test system quickly jumped to more than $6,300 with just the memory upgrade ($1,050), the bundled 23-inch Cinema Display ($1,999), and the 9800 XT graphics card ($300).

And for all that, you get a piddling 90 days of toll-free phone support and a one-year warranty. Given Apple's reputation for generally indifferent service, spending another $249 to upgrade to AppleCare Protection for a one-year tech support/three-year warranty combo seems like adding insult to injury. We are happy to report, however, that Apple has redesigned its Web support, making it much easier to find help in the FAQs and the knowledge base. The printed manual also supplies some useful info, from installation procedures to installing new drives and troubleshooting problems.

Photoshop CS
(Shorter bars indicate better performance)
*Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX (3.6GHz Intel P4 560, 1,024MB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz)
2.2 
Bully Computers Tyrant (3.2GHz Intel P4 Extreme, 1,024MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
3.1 
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz (Dual 2.5GHz Power PC G5, 4096MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
3.4 
Apple iMac G5 (1.8GHz PowerPC G5, 512MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
8.9 
Note: * Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX CPU and graphics card are overclocked.

CNET Labs uses Adobe Photoshop to evaluate a Mac's performance as an integrated whole--the CPU, the memory, the hard disk, and the graphics card. We run an automated suite of operations that simultaneously stresses a variety of the machine's subsystems and simulates a real-world Web-production work flow. The suite includes launching the application; converting between color spaces and bit depths; applying a variety of filters; working with layers, selection areas, and alpha channels; and resizing and compressing images. We time how long it takes to run the suite on 15 files that range from 1.8MB to 49.2MB, in 8- and 16-bit color.

Video encoding
(Shorter bars indicate better performance)
*Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX (3.6GHz Intel P4 560, 1,024MB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz)
4.8 
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz (Dual 2.5GHz Power PC G5, 4096MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
5.7 
Apple iMac G5 (1.8GHz PowerPC G5, 512MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
8.7 
Note: * Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX CPU and graphics card are overclocked.

In order to evaluate a Mac's performance on CPU-intensive operations, CNET Labs encodes and compresses a 54-second, 1GB video clip using Sorenson Squeeze 4.0, a multithreaded video-encoding application. We create an MPEG-4 data stream with a target data rate of 1Kbps and apply settings such as streaming hints, 2-pass VBR, and global motion compensation to increase the stress on the CPU.

iTunes  (Shorter bars indicate better performance)
Time in seconds  
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz (dual 2.5GHz Power PC G5, 4,096MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
17.9 
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.0GHz (dual 2.0GHz Power PC G5, 2048MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
21.8 
Apple iMac G5 (1.8GHz PowerPC G5, 512MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz)
37.3 
Apple eMac (1.25GHz PowerPC G4, 256MB DDR SDRAM, 333MHz)
46.5 

CNET Labs uses Apple iTunes as another indicator of a system's performance. This test times how long it takes to convert a 107MB AIFF audio file to MP3.

Quake III  (Longer bars indicate better performance)
Frames per second  
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz (ATI Radeon 9800)
319.1 
Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.0GHz (ATI Radeon 9600 Pro)
292.0 
Apple iMac G5 (Nvidia GeForce FX 5200)
72.2 
Apple eMac G4 1.25GHz (ATI Radeon 9200)
68.8 

To measure 3D gaming performance, CNET Labs uses Quake III Arena for OS X. Although Quake III is an older game, it is still widely used as an industry-standard tool.

Find out more about how we test desktop systems.

System configurations:

Apple eMac
Mac OS X 10.3.3; 1.25GHz PowerPC G4; 256MB DDR SDRAM 333MHz; 32MB ATI Radeon 9200; 80GB 7,200rpm Ultra ATA/100

Apple iMac G5
Mac OS X 10.3.5; 1.8GHz PowerPC G5; 512MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 64MB Nvidia GeForce FX 5200; 80GB 7,200rpm Serial ATA

Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.0GHz
Mac OS X 10.2.7; Dual 2.0GHz PowerPC G5; 2048MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 128MB ATI Radeon 9600 Pro; 160GB 7,200rpm Serial ATA

Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz
Mac OS X 10.3.5; Dual 2.5GHz PowerPC G5; 4,096MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 256MB ATI Radeon 9800; 160GB 7,200rpm Serial ATA

Bully Computers Tyrant
Windows XP Professional SP2; 3.2GHz Intel P4 Extreme; Intel 875P chipset; 1,024MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT (AGP); two WDC WD740GD-00FLX0 74GB 10,000rpm Serial ATA; WDC WD2000JD-00HBB0 200GB Serial ATA 7,200rpm; integrated Intel 82801ER SATA RAID controller

Velocity Micro ProMagix PCX
Windows XP Professional; 3.6GHz Intel P4 560; Intel 925X chipset; 1,024MB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra (PCIe) ; two WDC WD740GD-00FLX0 74GB 10,000rpm Serial ATA; Hitachi HDS724040KLSA80 400GB Serial ATA 7,200rpm; integrated Intel 82801FR SATA RAID controller

User opinions

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User Rating: 8/10

Beautiful and Powerful

Pros: fast, multitasks well,ram support excellent, esthetically sound, G5 chip surprisingly versatile, 64 bit ready for future, OSX is a perfect 10

Cons: few USB ports, finding compatible PCI expansion card can be tricky, bit pricey

Review: I got this computer and I can honestly say this has been the most enjoyable experience on a desktop ever.
Where to begin?
To start off, this computer looks really, really cool. Its clean and simple on the outside and inside. Access to USB and Firewire ports on front and back is a great asset and cannot be overlooked for ease of use.
Looks count for some things, but not for everything. Inside, very impressive, cooling zones keep the dual processors cool (also there is liquid cooling, but I am not sure which models carry that now) It a very nice experience hearing the fans speed up like jet engine roaring at the ready when the workload increases and the processors work harder.
That takes me to the next point. This computer is FAST. More importantly however, this computer multitasks well. (this is part software part hardware) I do heavy multimedia work (digital video, graphcis etc) and usually have several memory and processor heavy apps running simutaneously. No lag switching apps, (must say I have 2gigs of RAM) but more importantly, little lag when several rendering jobs are going on at the same time. The G5 chip seems to work more efficiently when heaps of work are thrown at it.
There are a few slightly annoying things about the design though
There are only 3 USB ports. Due to many peripherals, I had to buy a USB hub. Apple should have thrown in at least 2 more.
Secondly, I have had a bit if a hard time getting PCI cards that will properly work with the G5. I wanted to get a USB PCI card,but could not get one that either fit properly or worked.
Also, not so much Apples fault, because they are often ahead of the game, but such advanced ports like F/W 800 and S/PDIF otical audio in and out do not have much hardware support in the form of external peripherals or audio devices. Not too much support YET, however in coming year or so this should improve (will get a F/W 800 external HDD by then)
Most importantly, I have found OSX the best part of this computer.
I find it much more enjoyable to work with a OS that will work like you do, not the other way around. Windows has some great features, but Panther/Tiger (whichever you may have) is just too efficient, easy to use and beautiful.
Overall, 8/10. The Powermac G5 is definately one of the top 5 high end PCs out on the market.
FOR BUYERS unless you really NEED speed,multitasking power,extended RAM support, and high end ports, do not buy this computer. It is a bit pricey. If you do basic music/photo/video management and light apps like word processing and internet browsing get one of Apples' less expensive computers, because the only difference youll really notice is how much money you have left in your wallet.

User Rating: 10/10

The best comp i ever had! switched from Windows!! Read!

Pros: No spyware, Virus, No freezes!, best comp ever

Cons: none really, a little expensive

Review: Sick of windows? spyware? and antivirus? With windows you have to have good anti virus and spyware programs if you are on broadband to just surf the net, think of the memory it is taking up? you might have a new pc, but its loaded down with this junk

i got a dual g5, i have never been happier, fast, use adobe photoshop fluidly, convert video fast! , best ever.

User Rating: 9/10

Great machine! It's the marriage between the hardware and OSX that makes this work so well...

Pros: 1. Reliability , 2. Performance

Cons: price is kinda high. should be a little cheaper

Review:

User Rating: 9/10

UNIX will always win over Windows. Period.

Pros: Super stable Unix bases OS. Super powerful. Sleek, user freindly design.

Cons: Lacking support for some games. Expensive for the features.

Review: Powermacs are the perfect example of what happens when you combine a user friendly, incredibly stable OS, with ridiculously easy to access hardware. Apple could save us a few pennies by using a plastic shell like most PC's, but if you want to pay less money for a powerful toy running an achaic Windows platform with all third party hardware, thats what you'll get. Nothing more than a toy. Macs have outstanding durability and easily keep up with new technology. Totally virus free and memory protected, the UNIX OS X.3 is a testament to innovation and common sense. It may not be the most powerful machine on the market, but with processors that aren't over clocked and proprietary hardware, any Apple ower knows they can count on longevity and function.

User Rating: 9/10

Never Had a Problem

Pros: Incredibly fast, tons of RAM Space

Cons: No second optical drive slot, and need of more hard drive bays

Review: I actually own the dual 2.0 Ghz G5, but they are basically the same exact machine. I ordered mine refurb last July right after the 2.5's came out. I payed 2 grand for a machine that nomally was closer to 3. So that made me pretty happy. I'm a college student, so I need some fun along with my work. I play some games (America's Army, Knights of the Old Republic, Warcraft III), most run really fast. My 20 ghz being the previous model only has 64 megs of video ram. I'll probably want to upgrade that someday. Final Cut Pro and Adobe Photoshop are spectacular. These programs rrun amazingly well on this machine (Even though I only have 1 gig of ram). Anyways, unless you have some dinero, I'd say not to by the LCD display and go for a top of the line CRT. For much less you can typically get better image quality for high end graphics... All you sacrifice is the space and that pretty display...

User Rating: 10/10

Extemely-fast, good-looking and silent Professional Computer

Pros: Extremely Fast, Sleek Design, Nice Cooling (pretty silent)

Cons: I've heard other people moan about the support apple gives for this product. I haven't needed their support yet.

Review: I've worked with this Powermac G5 on the Job for two weeks and I must say: I've never seen a more powerful PC in my place. As I work with Adobe Photoshop CS, Adobe After Effects 6.5, Shake and Final Cut Pro HD this was the only true Thing for me and my company. Ever since it has been standing there, cooping with my brand-new 30" Apple Cinema HD Display, it has been a joy working with it. It's silent, extremely powerful and doesn't look ugly when it stands under, next-to or on my desk while I work. Great Job Apple. For me, the buy was one shot in a million and it hit right into the black spot.

User Rating: 10/10

Mac wasn't used to full potential

Pros: All basic hardware was the same - somewhat

Cons: The OSes were different

Review: On all of the machines, they should have been tested with OS 10.3.5, not 10.3.3, 10.3, 10.2.7 (Jaguar), and 10.3.5 - It wasn't really a fair benchmark. 10.3.5 had... well all updates have had major upgrades that very well could have affected the performance of one machine to the next.

User Rating: 9/10

MUCH more stable than Windows crap!

Pros: Fast, elegant, great apps, beautiful graphics, a joy to use

Cons: Pricey, high-end PC's are faster but MUCH less stable than the G5

Review: I have the dual-processor 2.5 Mhz G5 tower and it's an absolute joy. Garage Band is awesome, Harmon/Kardon speakers are awesome, display is breathtaking. Safari rocks, iPhoto rocks, graphics are beautiful and I'll never, ever look back. I got sick and tired of cleaning adware and viruses off that POS PC every week even with a Firewall.

User Rating: 10/10

Switched from Windows

Pros: Tight intergration of hard and software. Efficient and sound design. UNIX based OS is rock solid and having access to terminal a bonus. OSX is intuitive and well thought out. No spyware, so far.

Cons: Price is not for the budget minded. Wish it still had SCSI. Keyboard was mushy, had to turn to Matias.

Review: I started with Windows 286, Beta tested '95 for a year, and ended with Windows 2000. Having to dig through the registry finally got to me and I made the switch. I great surprise as teh OS was the big unknown to me but I figured I could fall back on UNIX terminal mode. Panther is a fine OS that has has been rock solid. MS Office software for Mac reads all Office Windows files without a glitch with on the fly conversions (or maybe they are natively compatible? Hard to tell.) If you compare individual componants to the PC world, the G5 is really expensive but as we know, individual componants are not the whole story. This computer is the closest thing to an "appliance" that I have come across. My one major complaint was the mushy keyboard so I had to get a clickety one from Matias. When I got rid of my Windows systems, I parted ways with my original IBM PS/2 keyboard. I am looking forward to the next version of OSX and I am glad I made teh switch.

User Rating: 9/10

NFL Side Line Proof..read on..............

Pros: Quick, Industry Standard Graphic Powerhouse

Cons: Expenses for non professionals... read opinion......

Review: To look at the mindless posting here about how windlows machines can do the job is akin to an NFL sideline. You know.. you've seen it... the cameras/photographers on the side lines of any major sporting event... they all have 3000$ cameras with 10,0000$ lenses...and everyone who reads Sports Illustrated sees the results... Comparing a windblows machine to an apple is like saying.. geeesh....my $145 HP point and shoot can take digital pics too... why spend all that money on those cameras and lense..

Its a stupid, uneducated and quite frankly, moronic statement and it holds true to windblows users who never really experienced the power of the apple.

I would love to be there when a publisher asks for your 56 meg pic of Randy Moss, for their quark express layout and all you have is a ".BMP" or ".JPG" from your HP GIGAMERTZ Centribone laptop to work with, please.....

User Rating: 5/10

Poor System

Pros: Design and Support

Cons: Really it?s not for Public & Professionals

Review: I went to buy in December 2004 my Apple Double G5 2.5 with 2 Gb DDR 400 because always I had used Mac?s systems. It?s gorgeousness but since February an Iwill MotherBoard DK8ES arrived to my hands and I endeavor the real Power.

(2 x eVGA) nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
(2 x PQI) DDR 3200 Platinum 1Gb
(2 x AMD) Opteron 250
(TJ06) Silverstone
(1 Power Supply) Power & Cooling Inc. 510 SLI

The Mac is poor and now it will be not my favorite machine

I recommend use to new alternatives for the workstations
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The difference between Apple Double G5 and the Double AMD Opteron 250 is the OS platform and many peripheries; I had used a Silicon Graphics® Tezro? and an Apple Double G5 2.5. My First computer in my work [Cad/Cam; Architect & Cinema] was a SGI and then I thought in a Mac and their OS Platform because the OS Irix not is steady; the difference is really the OS Platform.

¿Have you tried benchmark in many systems? The Apple Double G5 in my work is used only for their Pro Applications but for Workstation Applications the Opteron is the Great Option because the computer is multifunctional [The OS Platform is a Red Hat Software]
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No more fans ...

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Only objectivity
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User Rating: 4/10

This is an in-depth review, so you'll have to read it.

Pros: Huge processing power, quiet, cool design

Cons: Read the opinion

Review: I would like to start this off by saying that I DO NOT OWN A G5. I want to get this straight, because many of the people on here are writing review when they have never touched the product. As I said I don't own one, but my highschool has 3 so I have plenty of experience with them. We use them solely for video/audio editing, using the highly acclaimed Final Cut Pro. However, my experience with these machines has lead me to the conlusion that they are about as unreliably as PCs are and much harder to understand.

The G5 itself is interesting; a large boxish design, with cool little bars on the bottom that keep it from laying flat on the ground. This means that in the event of an earthquake,it will flop over instead of jirating on the little rubber pegs on most PCs. Good thinking Apple.

Next up is the OS. Man, where to start. Well first off as I said we use Final Cut Pro on these computers. However my experience with the program is less that satisfactory. All of the functions are buried under menus and their various sub-menus. It reminds one of the old box within a box within a box trick, and when you get to the last box all there is is a couple quarters. This is the way all the Mac menus work, making it cumbersome to do anything, and even when you finally do get something right the results are less than satisfactory. Also, to my knowledge there are very few programs with a MINIMIZE button for the entire program. Instead you minimize the different windows one at a time. You can also close the different windows one at a time. We've actually had problems with this where students would close the window with the timelines and wouldn't be able to work on their project because the window doesn't pop back up without an elaborate process to retrieve it. Unfortunatly for all you Mac lovers out there, I'm sorry to say it but so much for "so easy". I personally think they should rename the OS "Counterintutive ;)) with their little logo with the happy person on the side (where do you come up with a logo like that anyway????). We've also experience problems with the compatibility. Microsoft generally includes Quicktime with their OS, but Apple doesn't return the favor. Instead you have to go to the website and download an old, outdated version of Windows Media that doesn't work with half the files we threw at it. This isn't even the worse part though!! During our time using them we've had several experiences where the OS will encounter "critical errors" and shutdown. I understand this happens with Windows, but 99% of the time it is an issue with third party software. By the same token, about 99% of all the fatal errors in Apple computers are a result of the OS. This means when these occur, in order to fix them, it is generally necessary to REINSTALL the OS. Ouch.

Finally the performance. Mixed feelings on this one. On one hand, you've got 5 GHZ sitting in your machine, which is nothing to sneeze at. But with those dual 64-bit processors, you'd think it'd pack a little more clout. Nevertheless, in a program called LiveType, a 6 or seven minute block of credits took about 4 hours to render. 4 hours. On my Pentium 4 Hyperthreading PC this would have probably taken around 45 minutes. To render in AVI a section of a movie that is around 7 minutes long takes about 2 hours on my Pentium 4 2.4 gigahertz single processor VAIO. Not impressive. At all. Final Cut Pro suffered less from the issues than Livetype did, with decent render speeds. However, the choices for rendering are slim, limited almost entirely to Apple's proprietary formats (+ some mpeg and avi).

So in short, I've been very disappointed with the G5 despite its excellent insides. I believe that the OS is a real wrench in the system, and if somebody ran a Windows OS on that platform it would SCREAM. However, I've seen far superior performance out of a 3.4 GHZ Hyperthreading Pentium than out of that 5 gigahertz dual 64-bit processor machine. Sorry Apple, but looks like you guys bit the dust once again.

Josh

User Rating: 9/10

Are you kidding? No contest.

Pros: The support is excellent, and I've had no problems whatsoever.

Cons: expensive, that's about it.

Review: Yes, it costs a pretty penny. But all in all, this machine runs better than any top of the line PC I've ever owned. And it doesn't crash.

User Rating: 6/10

very cool but overrated, expensive and not good value

Pros: very cool design, quite powerful

Cons: Mac development has slowed compared with Windows. 512MB of RAM? What are they thinking?

Review: so it looks pretty damned cool. and it generally increases your credo a lot. but what exactly does it do? not more than a PC -- because at the end of the day it's the programs you use that matter, and if you're pro, these are almost all available on both platforms.
also, may i add that OS X is a pain to use (this is coming from a Windows power user, so maybe i'm just not used to it). windows and floating toolbars constantly get in the way of each other constantly -- well at least the LCD is huge, so it's less of a problem on this particular machine.

User Rating: 4/10

Bad buy unless you are very superficial...

Pros: Great looks, Fast video editing, Apples have a few good programs such as itunes, finale pro, and various audio programs.

Cons: Weak graphics, don't expect to game with this, OS-X while is very attractive i hate the efficiency and interface, Not many upgrades available, WAY OVERPRICED, Not enough optical drives available.

Review: Very attractive computer with excellent power, but it has a weak graphics card and is way too overpriced, Go with Alienware. You get better Power since it uses AMD, more hard drive space, and an even more attractive computer with better graphics for relatively the same price if not less.

User Rating: 9/10

Superior machine. No Spyware, adware, virus issues.

Pros: Superior machine. No Spyware, adware, virus issues.

Cons: A bit pricey, but well worth it.

Review: Superior machine. No Spyware, adware, virus issues. Love being able to go 8GB RAM.

User Rating: 9/10

Get a clue, PC users!

Pros: More Powerful than any PC out there. So what if it can't use PC apps. Dead silent, Great Reliability.

Cons: PC nerds and illiterites don't understand that the G5 is far superior.

Review:

User Rating: 10/10

Best Thing Out!!

Pros: This is an AWESOME machine! Nothing out currently can touch it. Cuppled with the BEST OS....OS X, it is a WICKED kick butt machine.

Cons: Would like to see more 3rd party companies make processor upgrades.

Review:

User Rating: 6/10

Can build a faster and better Windows PC for less

Pros: looks cool - ill give u that

Cons: expensive, overrated, limited expandability, can't run some commercial games

Review:

User Rating: 6/10

Nice to have for "Pro" applications

Pros: Ease of use with Unix based OS and very nice GUI. System and hardware monolithic and rock-solid. No virus worries. Outstanding features like Rendezvous or Exposé and Target Mode. Very good firewire integration. Runs Win XP as an emulation. Can read Win XP

Cons: Expensive. System more expensive than Win XP Pro because you have to buy upgrades every year. Besides Quartz poor graphics for the buck. Right mouse button still not standard (confusing when also working with Win XP). Delivery problems over and over (acut

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User Rating: 8/10

Expensive?

Pros: Powerful Competitively Priced: a dual-Xeon machine similarly configured costs $200 more.

Cons: Should ship with 1 Gig RAM, not 512 Meg.

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User Rating: 8/10

Really great design; very fast

Pros: The industrial design is great...amazingly quiet...OS X is getting better and better.

Cons: Large size

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User Rating: 7/10

The best PC on the market

Pros: Fast, easy to use, fast, powerful, fast, nice looking and fast.You will only need to change it in 4 years.

Cons: Price, ONLY the price, but you must pay for quality.

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User Rating: 9/10

What R U Waiting 4

Pros: Design, Speed, Ease of use and did I say speed. Also great for music & videos

Cons: $$$$Price, but worth it even if you can't upgrade

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User Rating: 7/10

good machine...if you can afford it

Pros: High quality, well-built machine. Excellent general-purpose computer equipped with two fast processors. Great choice for academia and scientific applications.

Cons: Ridiculously expensive. I mean, it is crazy that for the money one has to shell, one gets a meager 512 Megs of memory, no Airport card, no bluetooth module, no wireless keyboard or mouse, no office software of any kind. And, if you want to use your Apple

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User Rating: 10/10

G5 saved my graphic life!!!

Pros: I've been pro PC for years, and have done all my work on it(industry/freelance 3d & video artist). I have a dual opteron system with 2g of ram and a quadro fx card. After countless crashes and faulty reliability I made the jump to Apple. Now I'm virtu

Cons: None...I just wish they would start selling parts to make mac clones. If apple did that, I think more people would make the switch.

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User Rating: 8/10

Good rock solid machine

Pros: Very, very fast. Solid and can run Windows XP and Autocad with use of VPC software. Like two computers in one!

Cons: Needs more Ram stock. You may want to upgrade to 4 gig for running Windows XP

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User Rating: 6/10

good machine, not really good value

Pros: Sturdy built, fast CPUs. Predicted durability is excellent.

Cons: Ridiculously expensive. After shelling over 4K$ (canadian)...that is, if one already has a monitor, one gets a meager 512 MB and no airport card, no bluetooth module, no wireless keyboard or mouse, no software bundle of any kind, and after three months t

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User Rating: 8/10

Fantastic for the Right Reasons

Pros: Lighting fast speed, Rock solid stability of OSX, and best web program Safari avaliable today. People need to stop complaning about the imbalance of avaliable mac software. If you don't like what software is avaliable don't buy a mac, but for those of u

Cons: Of course it's pricy, but sometimes you get what u pay for. IBM needs to get into gear to keep up with Intel and AMD.

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User Rating: 10/10

No XP Nightmares!

Pros: Fast, easy to use, integration of software and hardware, ages far better than "alternatives", stable, safe OS, excellent colour capabilities

Cons: No viruses.

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User Rating: 10/10

Better than PC unless you are stupid

Pros: Unbeatable performance and stability. Don't believe that there is no app available because you can run virtual machine in this machine and can run any windows applicarion. Only a stupid will try to compare it with PC. Comparing it with PC is like comparin

Cons: Expensive

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User Rating: 10/10

Why cant there ever be a true comparison

Pros: cnet is a windows product marketer they do not run fair comparisons

Cons: If they are to give advice on product they need to remain neutral which with their advertisers they cannot and will not give unbiased information

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User Rating: 3/10

to expensive; not enough juice

Pros: acceptable grahpics;fast but not that fast

Cons: many: small ram, expensive; no useful bundled software; get sony vaio r: better value, bundled software, very fast, lots of ram, huge hard drive, much better graphics, all for half the price Apple is a dissapointment; as usual

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User Rating: 5/10

Apple has lost the race

Pros: Standardized Mac system with good software aps and systems. Few viruses for Mac system anymore.

Cons: IT DOES NOT HAVE PCI Express! It only has PCI-X slots and one 8X AGP slot. The writer in this article was wrong. PCI-X and PXI-Express are totally different. This computer should have faster processors, memory, PCI-Express (16x), better audio, better

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User Rating: 5/10

Apple Returning to the Bad Old Days

Pros: Fast, good looking, solid performance.

Cons: Lame warranty, penny pinching features, expensive upgrades, limited expansion. There are faster PCs out there.

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User Rating: 10/10

Can't Touch This!!

Pros: Simply the best computer ever made. If you need power, this is it. King of all computer.

Cons: Maybe too expensive, and minimum configuration.

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User Rating: 6/10

Not worth the MSRP

Pros: Fast,nice looking.

Cons: Price for use. Who really needs this? Unless you're a studio or university student in some sort of elevated study, then I see no real use for this.

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User Rating: 10/10

Very fast, beautifully designed computer

Pros: Awesome machine, in love with it!

Cons: Just as the other guy said, more RAM should come with it, 512MB doesn't cut it for pro-designers, seriously Apple. More Hard Drive space, only 2? C'mon.

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User Rating: 10/10

Clean. Simple. Mac G5.

Pros: Extremely fast and powerful. System delivers utmost ease of use and operation as well as expansion. Sweet looking exterior and interior. Solid operating system (built upon the UNIX OS). Much quieter operation compared to any PC I have ever had. Extremely

Cons: Tad pricey, but well worth the elimination of virus/trojan/worm threats.

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User Rating: 9/10

A beautiful beast

Pros: design, quality, MacOS X Panther, UNIX core, broad range of free compilers

Cons: case insensitve default file system (HPFS or something a rather). expensive

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User Rating: 9/10

PeeCee comments...come on, really..

Pros: Everything that's been said here on the PRO side, true, true, true. PeeCee folks, be a bit more specific when griping about apps and such. You're reviews are like swiss cheese..full of holes. Panther is the most stable OS available today, and crashing is

Cons: Out-of-the-box RAM config should be doubled.

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User Rating: 9/10

Processor Setting

Pros: Have you tested this Mac using the setting Maximal or the Default Automatic in the Energy Prefernces (Options). To me it makes a 10 to 15% difference in performances

Cons:

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User Rating: 10/10

Forget windows, go apple

Pros: the BEST OS and BEST hardware available on the market. forget what that guy wrote in the review, comparing this computer to a pc is like comparing a Ferrari to a cheap Fiat.

Cons: Expansive, but hey, you must pay for quality.

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User Rating: 10/10

Fast slick and reliable

Pros: others have said it all

Cons: Pricey and it could use some more fire-wire / usb-ports. With a printer, a scanner, a wacom and two external fire-wire drives, all slots (except the ones on the frontside of the machine) - including those on the monitor - are occupied.

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User Rating: 3/10

A good looking PC

Pros: it looks nice ,Daughter had to have it because it looked cute . Ok for web surfing

Cons: Very high price no real Software Out dated Video (considering Price) Slow ram , This is our 2nd MAC and still all the same issues. Still have to have a PC to do real Apps.

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User Rating: 9/10

this machine is NOT expensive

Pros: I am flabergasted that CNET would post a review indicating that this machine is expensive? Try getting the same power out of a PC and see how much you spend- just the same amount or more, with a better looking waranty, but it probably won't work quite rig

Cons: 512 mb of RAM is enough to boot the OS and maybe 1 or 2 productions apps, but if you're like me and run everything at once (cause you CAN do that with a mac)- buy more RAM, after market. You can add 1GB for $180.

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User Rating: 7/10

What was wrong with the abacus?

Pros: It is very big and warm when you turn it on.

Cons: When I was young, we did everything with an abacus.... and that was when we had one. Sometimes we just used rocks and my brothers

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User Rating: 8/10

Crunch Monster

Pros: Lightning fast, sleek, over built, No out sourcing of customer support.

Cons: Minimum software bundles

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User Rating: 9/10

Simply Stuning!

Pros: Absolutely amazing speed and power for huge files and apps. Awesome expandability and connectivity. Very quiet. Simply the best money I ever spent.

Cons: Puts out a lot of heat, enough to heat my studio apartment without assistance! (not really a con since I save on my electric bill)

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User Rating: 9/10

The fastest personal computer on the planet

Pros: best currently available hardware and OS in one box from one shop. Forget the bitter & twisted rantings from Windows mags that it is possible to make a computer out of wood that is theoretically faster, yeah!... just try getting it fixed if (when) it

Cons: laughing at windows users may damage your ribs

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User Rating: 10/10

windows geeks are sissies!

Pros: booyah! Simply the best comuter on the market

Cons: none when compared to windows...you cnet guys are just afraid of the truth. Apple smoke your butts and XP is Mac OS 8.0

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User Rating: 9/10

Fantastic developer box, super fast!

Pros: Very fast, very quiet most of the time

Cons: Expensive, but competitive with similarly outfitted 2-way PCs, should include more bundled business software

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User Rating: 10/10

Awsome Awsome Awsome

Pros: Fast easy Awsome It Screams through anything you put at it. OSX is a Dream come true

Cons: None

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User Rating: 8/10

WONDERFUL MINUS THE PENNY PINCHING

Pros: Way Fast, Built like a tank, quiet, simple, elegant, great creative facilities, some great built in programs

Cons: No Appleworks (cheap mac dudes)? For this price, they should include Office Mac

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User Rating: 9/10

Probably the fastest. PS Machine out there

Pros: speed, speed, speed, oh its quiet, and speed, and with wifi and BT build in its a perfect workstation... basically a grafik designers and video editors wet dream all in on one package...

Cons: none really... just one little one more ram should come stock...

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Apple Power Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz specifications

  • General
  • Type Personal computer
  • Product Form Factor Tower
  • Width 8.1 in
  • Depth 18.7 in
  • Height 20.1 in
  • Weight 44.5 lbs
  • Processor
  • Type PowerPC G5 2.5 GHz
  • Installed Qty 2.0
  • Max Supported Qty 2.0
  • Cache Memory
  • Type L2 cache
  • Installed Size 1.0 MB
  • Cache Per Processor 512 KB
  • Mainboard
  • Data bus speed 1.25 GHz
  • Environmental Parameters
  • Environmental standards EPA Energy Star
  • Min operating temperature 50.0 °F
  • Max operating temperature 95.0 °F
  • Operating humidity range 5 - 95%
  • RAM
  • Installed Size 512.0 MB / 8.0 GB (max)
  • Technology DDR SDRAM
  • Memory Speed 400.0 MHz
  • Memory Specification Compliance PC3200
  • Form Factor DIMM 184-pin
  • Storage Controller
  • Type 1.0 x Serial ATA - Integrated
  • Controller interface type Serial ATA-150
  • Storage controller interface channel qty 2.0
  • Storage Controller (2nd)
  • Type None
  • Storage
  • Floppy drive type None
  • Hard Drive 1.0 x 160.0 GB - Standard - Serial ATA-150 - 7200.0 rpm
  • Hard Drive (2nd) None
  • Optical Storage
  • Type CD-RW / DVD-R
  • CD / DVD read speed 32x (CD) / 10x (DVD)
  • CD / DVD write speed 24x (CD) / 8x (DVD)
  • CD / DVD rewrite speed 10x
  • Optical Storage (2nd)
  • Type None
  • Storage Removable
  • Type None
  • Monitor
  • Monitor Type None.
  • Graphics Controller
  • Type AGP 8x - Plug-in card
  • Graphics Processor / Vendor ATI Radeon 9600 XT
  • Video Memory 128.0 MB DDR SDRAM
  • Digital Video Standard Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
  • Max Monitors Supported 2.0
  • Audio Output
  • Type Sound card - Integrated
  • Input Device
  • Type Keyboard , Mouse
  • Telecom
  • Modem Fax / modem - Integrated
  • Max transfer rate 56.0 Kbps
  • Protocols & Specifications ITU V.92
  • Audio Input
  • Type None
  • Networking
  • Networking Network adapter - Integrated
  • Data Link Protocol Ethernet , Fast Ethernet , Gigabit Ethernet
  • Features AirPort Extreme ready
  • Expansion / Connectivity
  • Expansion Bays Total (Free) 2.0 ( 1.0 ) x Internal - 3.5" x 1/3H , 1.0 ( 0.0 ) x Front accessible
  • Expansion Slots Total (Free) 2.0 ( 1.0 ) x Processor - DIMM 184-pin , 1.0 ( 1.0 ) x Memory - Full-length , 8.0 ( 0.0 ) x PCI-X / 100 MHz - Full-length , 1.0 ( 2.0 ) x AGP Pro 8x , 2.0 ( 6.0 ) x AirPort Extreme , 1.0 ( 0.0 ) x PCI-X / 133 MHz
  • Interfaces 2.0 x Hi-Speed USB - DVI-Analog/Digital - 4 pin USB Type A , 3.0 x USB - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm , 1.0 x Network - Apple Display Connector (ADC) - 29 pin combined DVI , 1.0 x Audio - Line-in - 35 pin ADC , 1.0 x Display / video - Phone line - TOSLINK , 1.0 x Display / video - Line-out - RJ-45 , 1.0 x Audio - VGA - RJ-11 , 1.0 x Audio - SPDIF output - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) , 1.0 x Modem - SPDIF input - TOSLINK , 1.0 x Display / video - Output - 9 pin FireWire 800 , 1.0 x IEEE 1394 (FireWire) - 4 pin USB Type A , 2.0 x IEEE 1394b (FireWire 800) - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm , 1.0 x Audio - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm , 1.0 x Headphones
  • Printer
  • Type None
  • Miscellaneous
  • Included Accessories AirPort antenna
  • Cables Included DVI-VGA adapter , Modem cable , USB extension cable
  • Power
  • Power device type Power supply
  • Voltage Required AC 120/230 V
  • Operating System / Software
  • OS Provided Apple MacOS X 10.3
  • Software Apple Mac OS X Mail , Zinio Reader , Apple iChat AV , Art Directors Toolkit , OmniGraffle , EarthLink TotalAccess , Apple iCal , QuickBooks for Mac New User Edition , OmniOutliner , Apple iSync , Apple DVD Player , Apple iLife , Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive , Apple Safari , Apple Address Book , Apple Sherlock , Apple QuickTime , GraphicConverter
  • Manufacturer Warranty
  • Service & Support 1 year warranty
  • Service & Support Details Technical support - Phone consulting - 1 year , Limited warranty - 90 days
  • Sustainability
  • ENERGY STAR Qualified Yes
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