"Good and small and very robust"3.0 starson by gschlachter
Pros: 20 x zoom is a plus works well, although you may need a tripod to really use that function unless you are very steady.
It turn on as soon as you open the side panel
Cons: Hard disk takes forever to delete and you need to have a 110V power hooked up to delete anything.
Buttons on screen are hard to press, have to use the hard buttons
Summary: I am on he fence on this one, low light is not great but the zoom rocks, its small and battery works well with the hard drive, get a second battery and you are set for 15 hr of recording in HD. Deleting is a problem as it takes so long , could be since i use Mac may be simpler on PC? Good quality, i take my recorders out in the bush, cold snow while sledding and quading. For the price it works well. Anyone can work it, my kids 5 and 8 years old use it all the time aim and shot. One thing they got right is the screen, you can see it even in bright daylight unlike my sony.