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"BEWARE: NON STANDARD component cable needed for XDS"
1.0 starson by tomscot2Pros: I have been unable to connect to my system so I can't tell you.
Cons: Roku uses nonstandard component video cable (3.5 mm plug to 3 RCA connectors). Calble is not available from any cable supplier on the internet or elsewhere and Roku is out of stock.
Summary: I have a Roku Netflix player with a standard component video RCA outputs (RGB) that I connect to a component video switch that connects all of my video components to my HD TV through an in-wall component video cable. I use the optical audio out to connect to my home theater audio system.
I purchased the XDS because it has both wireless n and a component output. When I opened the box I was surprised to find that the component output is nonstandard (I admit that I did not read the fine print). It has 3.5 mm jack output, not the normal 3 RCA jacks. Consequently I am unable to simply unplug my old player and plug in the new one. When I went online to find a cable I discovered that no one seems to make this cable. To make matters worse ROKU is out of stock of the cable.
What I don't understand is why they kept the RCA composite video output (Y) with the RCA stereo audio outputs (R/W) when there are lots of inexpensive cables on the market that use the 3.5 mm jacks to connect camcorders and ipods to TVs. Component video equals HDMI video in quality when using quality cabling. Composite video is clearly inferior, especially for a box that is supposed to have 1080p out. BAD ENGINEERING is the only answer.
I use my current Roku to watch Netflix videos several times a week. I also use it to listen to Pandora on my stereo because we live in an area with terrible FM reception. I just want my new box to work with my new wireless n router to take advantage of HD video streams. My new XDS is waiting patiently. In the meantime I am sharing my experience with all, which I promised Roku customer service that I would do.
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This cable comes in 2 flavors and this uses the "other" type of connection. It seems non-standard because ut us not the same as the camcorders, Zune of iPod video but it is the same as:
Archos, Gigabeat, Creative Zen Vision, Apple iBook, Aiptek, and many more devices. So if you go by the number of devices that uses that cable it is standard. But in reality there is NO standard for 3.5mm 4 connector to 3 RCA. When using the ones for video plus audio (red, white, yellow) match it
Yellow -> RED = Pr
Red -> BLUE = Pb
White -> Green = Y
So you know component can only give you 720p
if you wanted highest quality you will have DVI or HDMI.
In addition using WiFi (802.11) a,b or g is good enough for HD so maybe you should check your facts before you bash ANYTHING. Therefore usually the bottle neck is your ISP provider (usually no where near even 802.11a)
The ROKU box is great device specially the XD-S. Now your rating only reflects your knowledge of technology. -
I meant component (not composite) the Roku XDS most definitely has component outputs. These are often used by projector owners, such as myself, who have no need for HDMI other than routing it through a receiver which I prefer to avoid with video signals.
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Zeppo, the Roku XDS, according to Roku http://shop.roku.com/Roku-Streaming-Player-Options-W5.aspx most definitely has composite outputs for video, and it has optical out for audio. For those who use a projector, the component is often the only means available to connect the viedeo to the projector, and then use the optical to access audio. HDMI delivers both, and obviously the projector is unable to process the audio signal.
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The Roku XDS has ONLY composite and HDMI output ports, no component ports. Composite and component are not the same. On most old TVs only composite ports are available. On most HDTVs one will find composite, component and one or more HDMI ports.
I don't understand why you have to make your connection to an in-wall component setup. If you use a newer home theater system with HDMI ports you could plug it to one of the input ports and use a single HDMI cable out to your HDTV. If you don't have such a system, you can simply connect the Roku directly to your HDTV via HDMI port.
You have options it seems to me. Perhaps I am missing something? -
Roku is a 1080p device, and it's designed to work over the HDMI interface, for all those who is really concerned about 1080p performance, get a TV or a receiver with HDMI interface.
But also realize there are plenty people out there who is more concerned about the content than 1080P output, those who still have older TVs. Almost all TV in existence has RCA connections, a low cost, easy solution for those is the RCA cable. The component connection is a dying breed, forcing over 90% of the customer pay for component connection provision just because a niche market still want component output makes no value engineering and marketing sense.
The comment about the Wireless N router to take advantage of HD video makes NO sense, the best of the HD stream out there right now does not exceed ~3mbps streaming rate, that can be easily handled by a 802.11g (54 mbps) wireless connection. N for n sake is silly, the problem most likely lie with the router anyway. -
It's amazing how people can't estimate any engineering concept, but keep commenting on bad engineering.
Yes, Roku is a 1080p device, and it's designed to work over the HDMI interface, for all those who is really concerned about 1080p performance, get a TV or a receiver with HDMI interface.
But also realize there are plenty people out there who is more concerned about the content Roku can provide than 1080P output, those who still has older TV. Almost all TV in existence has RCA connections, a low cost, easy solution for those is the RCA cable. The component connection is a dying breed, forcing over 90% of the customer pay for component connection provision just because a niche market still want component output makes no value engineering and marketing sense. -
Not true. You have three choices - HDMI, RCA or <something else I can't remember>. Setup couldn't be easier. I love my Roku. It was cheaper than 1 month of cable and for $7.99/month for Hulu Plus I get more TV than I can possibly watch. With Amazon rentals, new movies are 1/2 what they cost for Comcast On-Demand. Netflix has tons of stuff too and their catalog has been expanding rapidly. My new TV bill is $7.99 for Netflix, $7.99/mo for Hulu Plus, and $25/month for internet. In other words, 1/3 of my old cable bill. And, as far as Roku is concerned, it is fast and works perfectly. I don't watch enough TV to justify a cable bill. But I get great TV entertainment for the price of a decent lunch now.
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