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"CNET Reviewers Dont know the whole story!!!" on by HiFiGuru
Pros: Amazing blacks on par with any plasma, tons of connections, excellent for gaming. Beautiful with Blu-Ray
Cons: Uneven lighting at the edges
Summary: Notice I didn't Mention the Glossy Screen? After speaking to the regional trainer of Samsung's A/V products for eastern Canada (which if CNET had gone in depth and had spoken to a company representative they would have found out)the reflective screen is a direct result of being the best way to increase the over all black levels of the television. Having the diffusing screen as most LCD's still produces grayish blacks. Removing that diffusing screen allows the 65 series to produce those lovely blacks that the CNET reviewers seem to like so much. Still compared to almost any plasma out there I have seen, the reflectiveness caused by ambient light is still CONSIDERABLY less. DEFINATLEY A GOOD BUY! Samsung is by far superior in this expert's opinion to even the Sony XBR in colour and contrast. Bravo Samsung, you finally made a TV that dosen't suck!
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"HDMI PROBLEMS with SMSUNG LNT4665F" on by mutka
Pros: Great video (WHEN IT WORKS)
Cons: INTERMITTANT HDMI VIDEO
Summary: The video via the HDMI port is intermittant.
The picture will go black and the only way to restore the HDMI video is to power-fail the TV (o the video will go out again in a few min.'s) Samsung ack.'s the "ISSUE"
They say the issue is a software problem which they have a upgrade for. But the service deepartment has tried to upgrade the software TWICE and have FAILED both times to upgrade their software! Samsung is not very responsive and had to argue with the phone rep to escalate the problem. Samsung makes it impossable to speak to anyone except their entry level phone rep's, who run the "play" directly from the play book. Poor customer service, it apears they really do not care! Or they would of escalted this issue. Buyer beware.
On a posative note, When the TV does work, it's really a very good quailty picture. -
"Finally an LCD with a uniform background" on by SandhillCemetary
Pros: No bands or clouds. Excellent blacklevel.
Cons: Somewhat noisy picture at times. Inconsistent brightness control.
Summary: I owned the Sharp LC-46D62U for 5 months before returning it to Sharp because of horizontal bands. I loved the picture quality otherwise, but the non-uniform background was too much to deal with and all replacements sent by Sharp had the same issue, along with the D92 series.
The Sony XBR LCDs, while loved by CNET, have myriad issues with mura-effects and crush blacks. So do the older Samsung models.
The good news is that Samsung has hit a home run with this new "T" series. The background is completely uniform with no bands or clouds. The black levels are as good as plasmas, with nice detail and no crush. The "T" series boasts 3 HDMI 1.3 inputs and lots of tweaks available from the main menu. The out of the box settings are horrid, so do not judge this TV by what you see in the store - in fact, the TV has a "shop" mode, which is scorchingly bright.
Be aware that the 65 unit has the higher contrast ratio than the 61, but has clear glass as opposed to a matte finish. This means that if you have a lot of ambient light in your room, you may want to consider the 61. The 65 has a decidedly plasma-like look to it due to its glossy panel and high contrast.
Some early purchasers on AVS did notice some very faint "clouds", which disappeared after a few hours of use and did not come back. You will also want to set the HDMI black level to "low".
Compared to the Sharp, I find motion handling on this set identical even though the Sharp's spec says 4 - 6ms. One negative, albeit slight, is that the 4665F seems to be a bit fuzzier with respect to picture quality on 720p. I also don't like the brightness control. The scale is from 0 - 100, with 50 being the default, which is just about near optimal - I have mine set at 45. If you go above 65, you will notice how the left and right sides of the screen brighten much faster than the middle until you get to 100, when the screen is uniformly bright. Using the gamma control seems to work on the middle part of the screen. It's kind of odd why the brightness works this way but I seriously doubt anyone would want the brightness at even 60, let alone above 65.
All in all, it's a great LCD - probably the best on the market right now.Updated
There is an issue with this TV dropping HDMI connections with the PS3. I do not own a PS3 but if you do, checking out the AVS threads will give some insight into the problem.
Something I alluded to before is the the out of the box settings. This TV is somewhat tricky to calibrate, though if care is taken, it produces excellent gray scale. It is very easy to get significant black crush, so good calibration is a must.
Clean HD is stunning - almost 3D. I thought it was great on my Sharp 62U, but this set is even better. However, this set struggles with lesser quality content such as SD or overly compressed HD, which manifests itself as reddish "noise" on certain areas of the picture. I never see it on DiscoveryHD or HDNET but occasionally on HBOH or TNTH or poor quality DVDs.
Skin tones are excellent, with none of the dreaded Sharp red-push.
This TV will NOT accept 480i over HDMI. According to Samsung, 480i is is not supported with HDMI, though many manufacturers, including Sharp, will accept it.
I am still very, very pleased with this TV. -
"CNET assumes? Assumes???" on by DanielDaly
Pros: Gorgeous set with a wide color gamut. Deep blacks, white whites, and no black or white crush.
Cons: I can see myself... and a little ghosting.
Summary: "We don't appreciate the glossy screen, however. We assume the company chose a reflective screen coating, as opposed to the matte screens found on most LCDs, to attract attention in the store when the LN-T4665F is lined up next to the millions of other flat-panel sets."
... You -assume- that it's to attract attention? Sorry CNET, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Try to learn what you're talking about before you publish it and claim expert status, would you?
For years, LCD manufacturers have put a diffusion layer on LCD televisions in order to accomplish 2 things: Create a matte finish, but more importantly, eliminate hot-spotting, in which one area of the screen is brighter or "hotter" than the other.
Samsung found that by re-engineering their backlight designs, they could avoid hotspotting and remove the diffusion layer. What this did, was remove one more layer of material that would otherwise take away from the bright nature of LCD. And, it worked! Notice how much brighter this Samsung is compared to previous generations?
So yes, the reflection is annoying-- but CNET, it's not a freakin' "reflective coating" they added to it. Why on earth would a TV manufacturer do such a thing? There's a trade-off for everything you know.
And no... I don't own this set. But I do work for Ken Cranes Home Entertainment in Ontario, CA and have to stare at the thing 12 hours a day... And I've been to numerous Samsung trainings.
So, I'm a mere salesman, and yet I know this-- what's your excuse, CNET? -
"15000:1 Contrast Ration! Wow!!!" on by ericusc
Pros: 15000:1, 3 HDMIs, HDMI 1.3 (10Gb/s)
Cons: Just came out so not sure bugs have not been addressed
Summary: Last Friday, I purchased a LN-S4695D TV. I was very very happy with my purchase. So happy, that I researched on it some more. When I went back to the BestBuy site, I was dismayed to learn that 95D was no longer being sold. In fact, it was being replaced by a newer model--LN-T4665F. When I learned that the 65F had HDMI 1.3 & a 15000:1 Contrast Ratio, I definitely had to return my "old" TV. Please keep in mind that the 95D is already a kick-arse TV, but the 15000:1 ratio on the 65F really does make a difference. The rich blacks make the color more vibrant. I'm using my XBox 360 HD-DVD player to perform the visual benchmarking. King Kong looks more spectular on the 65F rather than the 95D--and I didn't think that's even possible. Also, with the the 95D, I had to adjust the TV so that the 360 games would look bright, but with the 65F, it was perfect out-of-the-box. Good luck with your future purchase guys.
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