Pros Very, very good picture. Black colors are very dark, inky for my first time. 24fps, 1080P full HD is what it does best. 3D is better than what I was expecting. Apps are cool and launch pretty quickly.Off angle viewing is good, better than my older LCD. Go
Cons Pricey. Qwerty keyboard remote is funky, a little awkward. Browser needs improvement. 3D requires glasses, wish they didn't. 3D content is limited. Plasma uses more power than LCD.
Summary I have owned my PN59D8000 for about two weeks now. So far it's been excellent to good. First the excellent; the picture. This is what it's all about to me, what's the point of getting a new TV if it doesn't produce a great picture. The PN59D8000 makes a great picture. I'm no David Katzmaier, I haven't seen hundreds of TV's, but I do know what I like when I see it and I think this TV makes a very good, to great picture. I have watched standard def, 1080 I/P HD and high def 3D. The standard def is good, better than my older 52" A650 Samsung LCD in several ways, but no matter how you cut it, it's still standard def. The HD is what it's all about, it's excellent, with blacks so dark and inky, the best I've seen so far. The contrast and detail is excellent. 3D is cool, different, awkward. At first, I tried watching some ESPN 3D NBA (Directv) during the daytime in a well lit room & I really noticed the flashing, pulsing of the 3D glass lenses off screen of the TV from the sides. To me this was a little nauseating, but during night or with the curtains closed in a dark or darker room, the effect was very good and comfortable. The 3D depth and detail was excellent, better than what I was expecting actually. The Good; the browser and qwerty keyboard is a little of a let down, but still good. I have a Home Theater PC with a nice hand held qwerty remote, at first I thought that setup was only OK, but compared to the Samsung qwerty remote/browser, the Windows 7/IE9/Firefox browser is really much better. The Samsung browser is good, to get online and putz around, but the remote needs a touch-pad/trackball big time. The Samsung commercial showing the couple just breezing through web pages is a little unreal. Maybe with more practice and understanding I could be more proficient. The other TV's that I was considering were the new upcoming 2011 Panasonic plasma's. The 2010 Panasonic VT plasmas are very good as well, but at this moment the 2011 VT model is not out yet and appear to be too expensive for my budget. So there it is, a LCD owner converting to Plasma, because of the picture, because of the picture. Enjoy.Still very happy with my tv. However, after a few months of owning my D8000 I just noticed two very slight thin stress cracks about 1/2 inch to 1 inch in length on the very bottom edge of the clear plexi glass/plastic, actually on the beveled edge. Looks like two clear hairs running across the bottom edge against the darker edge. They definitely were not there for several weeks in the beginning. My last Samsung had gotten these as well. My bad I think. It may be because of the way I stood it up on it's bottom edge on the carpet while getting ready to place the tv on the wall. Not a performance problem in any way at this point except cosmetically noticeable if you get within 2-3 feet and look closely. Word of caution: don't stand your tv up on it's edges at all.
Updated on Jun 20, 2011
Pros Incredible picture before and after calibration, Slick design and frame, Feature packed, Easy to use. Much less expensive than its nearest competition.
Cons Web browser slower than using a laptop. Breakout dongles for analog connections, Apps interface is nice but still a bit sluggish compared to using a laptop.
Summary After studying this model and the Panny VT30 for the past 3 months, I have finally been able to make a sound choice to recommend to my clients who have been hounding me about these two before they even hit the market. In fact I liked the D8000 so much that I just got myself a 51" set for personal use. To be clear I spend 4 days a week going out and doing instals and calibration on all kinds of av gear including overpriced "ultra high end" tv's.That being said, 90 percent of the people who purchase their Tv will use it in a living room or in a room that is not totally dark or a room with windows and glass doors. because of this, The small difference in blacks between the 2 sets is trumped by the really accurate color reproduction and the slightly more punchier picture in the Samsung. In my time in the field I found that the Samsung did a much better job vs the 1 glass panel of the vt30. Couple that with the superb performance of the D8000 after calibration and the fact that the D8000 is anywhere from 500 to 1000 less for the larger size tv's makes it easy to recommend the Samsung over any other sets so far this year. The main complaint that I have with the set is the Apps and Web browser function seems a bit slow for my taste. This could be attributed to me being used to connecting my laptop and using that instead of the tv. All in All, This is a great TV that manages to inch ahead of its worthy competitors in a market where even mid-range sets blow away what most people have in there homes.I'm confused...You said that the standard def is excellent, and that the HD is only good when compared to a 50"pioneer? You mean this tv only looks good when you compare it to one of the best TV's ever made?
Updated on Jun 11, 2011
Pros Great Specs
Cons POP's - Google it...Unless you enjoy watching a disco party, this set will drive you crazy.
Summary To date, Samsung has made a decision to sweep the issue under the rug. You can google the problem and you will see that it is happening a lot. Until Samsung steps up and admits/corrects the problem in their "Flagship" TV, I would steer clear.
SAMSUNG!!!! Get with it, your issue is going to sink your "Flagship" TV and is ruining your Brand!!! Do the right thing, take ownership of the issue and solve it! You will actually win customers instead of lose them.
Pros Picture and apps are great. Remote control is good, would be great if it were back lit.
Cons Screen started peeling/bubbling within 15 days from purchase.
Summary I really loved everything about this TV, but when the screen started to bubble/peel after only approxiamtely 2 weeks of use I became extremely disappointed. Then when PC Richards told me they would only take the tv back if Samsung authorized it I became depressed. When I contacted Samsung they told me they wouldn't take the tv back and I had to contact their local warranty rep to inspect the tv. At this point I became enraged! The rep told me the only fix was to order a new screen for my 2 week old tv. So I called Samsung, again, and told them to fix a two week old tv was unacceptable. After many transfers and many "please hold"'s they agreed to authorize the return back to PC Richards. So now my dilemma now is do I swap it for another PN59D8000 or go with a Panasonic? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result???
Pros Black level when brand new; Color saturation when new
Cons Cons: Screen (anti reflective/real black filter) peels away on almost every single panel manufactured; Black level lightens (worsens) as it ages; Color saturation/accuracy worsens at it ages.
Summary In spite of the fact that I had to exchange this television three times within the first two weeks after initially purchasing it -- I go into detail about why I had to exchange it multiple times below --I originally wrote a glowing review for it. The sad fact of the matter is that I didn't wait long enough to write my review. I just had a junk out exchange approved by Best Buy. They picked up my fourth and last D8000 today. These D8000 sets all experience the screen peeling -- more information below -- issue. They all experience their black level becoming much lighter and worse as the panel ages. And as a result of their black level worsening (becoming lighter) the color saturation suffers a great deal.
Obviously, the screen peeling issue is the biggest problem. Faulty engineering or manufacturing has led to practically every single D8000 (and D7000) panel in existence experiencing the peeling issue. This is completely unacceptable. If you have just purchased this television new, please check in the top right, top left, and on the entire top edge of your panel. If you see any bubbling, peeling, or anything similar, and you are within the timeframe for returns being allowed, you probably want to return this and buy a different television.
I'm hoping that most of the users on best buy will click on the comments and see this, because I am going to talk about what is obviously the most important information to be aware of before purchasing this set. I was overzealous, and wrote my review before I had to chance to see if this television experienced problems over time. I've never owned a Samsung that had it's performance deteriorate over time, so I didn't think I had any reason to believe the performance of this TV would. I was gravely mistaken.
Please go to avsforum online and look at all of the threads regarding the infamous "screen peeling" issue. You can just search for the model number, it will take you to over a thousand posts, with dozens of pictures of 64" and 59" D8000 panels peeling away. (The 59" and 64" D7000 models are also experiencing the same problem). Right now, you're saying to yourself, "A plasma panel is glass, it can't peel away." You're right, it's not technically the screen that's peeling away. The A/R shield/Real Black filter is manufactured right into the glass panel. It is this -- anti reflective filer/real black filter -- part of the panel that is peeling away on what is believed to be about 90% of all D8000 (and D7000) panels.
I've personally had three of them with the screen peeling problem. The first one I received back when I initially purchased this television had the screen peeling away on the top edge a little to the left of the middle of the panel. I figured it was just an anomaly or a fluke, and that it was nothing to worry about. The second one I received was made with such shoddy engineering/manufacturing that the best buy delivery guys couldn't even assemble to the stand. They tried everything they could, and the best they could do was to strip out the screws trying. When they placed it on my entertainment unit, it was wobbling to the point that it was clearly going to fall off. They wouldn't even leave it at my house. They brought out a new one, and low and behold, after two days, the top left corner was peeling away. I exchanged it for my fourth set, and that one was okay for two months. Best Buy finally approved a junk out exchange on Monday of this week, and my shiny new 65" VT30 arrived today. I'm going to hold off on posting a review until I have given it at least a month to see if it has any issues.
This problem typically manifests itself on the upper edges of the panel. Look at the top right, and top left corners, or all along the top edge of your panel if you have a 59" or 64" D8000 or D7000 Samsung plasma this year. Chances are, you are going to see the screen (anti reflective/real black filter) peeling away. Almost every single panel is doing this. I've spent hours on the phone with Samsung, as well as hours on the phone with Samsung repair technicians. I even spoke with a friend that owned a D8000 that had received 5 replacement panels, with all of them having the screen peeling issue.
On top of the screen peeling issue, these D8000 panels also have black levels that lighten (worsen) over time. If you want additional information, just check out cnet's review of the D7000. In that review, just go to the performance details, and look at their spreadsheet of 2011 plasma aging, and how it is affecting the black level performance of the plasma's they are testing. The black level of the D8000 has became essentially twice as light as it was when they first tested it for their initial review. They haven't had time to test the D7000 again, but they say that they expect the black level of the D7000 will also become much lighter as the panel ages. On the flip side, the Panasonic plasma's are actually experiencing black level improvement as their panels age.
The D8000 also experiences a worsening of color accuracy/saturation as the panel ages. I witnessed the colors drifting and changing so much over the course of time that I owned my last D8000 that I had to do a completely new calibration after about a month.