Pros + Passive 3D image brighter than active 3D TVs and showed less crosstalk than 3D LCDs
+ Superb streaming and widget content via well-integrated apps platform
+ Includes unique Bluetooth remote with slide-out QWERTY keyboard
+ Integrated Wi-Fi
Cons - Relatively light black levels
- Poor screen uniformity and off-angle viewing
- Couldn't handle 1080p/24 content properly
Summary So you know where I'm coming from, I'm replacing a 50" Samsung plasma. I have a number of various sized flat panels around the house and a home theater in the basement. I just had my 720p Mitsy projector replaced with a Sony (STR-DA3600ES) and Avatar on Blu-Ray blew me away (108" screen). I consider myself an enthusiast, but in no way an expert. Anyway, onward...
Out of the box experience - Fantastic. The box is gorgeous, the instructions on the top tell you how to easily (for such a big TV) undo the clips and sleeve-off the box.
Set up - Couldn't be simpler. Quick start guide is accurate. Instructions manual is in English only, not 7 languages, and is plainly written, not some computer converted Chinese. I couldn't get the Vizio remote to control the DirecTV box though. Will have to look for a code I suppose. Not a biggie. Will get it. (Edit: Thanks to AVS Forum, someone pointed out I must have my receiver set to RF mode in Remote Control set up. I changed it to IR, and voilà, all set. I had to "Try The Next Code" to get up to Code 4. All set). Luckily, my 2-year old receiver is 3D ready - HR21-700. DirecTV said just "plug it in, the receiver will walk you through the set up once it recognizes the 3D TV". Not quite right, for me anyway, but a restart of the receiver and I was up and running.
2D-HD - I started with Kill Bill 2 on TNTHD and it looked great. Some HD looks better than others, not surprisingly. For example, 30 Rock must use some type of softening lens.
AppleTV (720p) - YouTube looks a little better than I thought it would. From Apple's movie catalog, previews of 300 and The Bucket List looked sharp. Netflix streaming looked as good as it did on my 50" Sammy, and that's a good thing. Photos from Mobile Me via my iPhone looked great.
3D on DirecTV - Started with n3D, which I now realize is very analogous to Mark Cuban's HDNET back in the early days of HD. It's where you should go for the fun initial impression. A lot of scenic/nature content. It impresses right away.
Family take - 11-year old boy loves it. Despicable Me in 3D is wow-ing him. 15-year old daughter too. I prefer the premium glasses, but the kids like the basic ones. Daughter's friend was tickled the basic (flat) glasses fit over her eye glasses. Wife's first reaction was good, then made a comment about it making her cross-eyed, then backed up and liked it. She is also most impressed with Despicable Me and says it feels less gimmicky than past 3D experiences (where something just jumps out at you now and then).
3D sports - I downloaded the National Championship game (Auburn vs Oregon) via DirecTV and although I like it better than the active shutter, I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer a plain crisp HD for sports. I watch a ton of sports, and my initial reaction to sports in 3D with both passive 3D (this set) and active 3D (the other available 3D technology) is mixed at this point in time.
Vizio 3D Blu-Ray player - Started with Dinosaurs, IMAX Under The Sea, Alice in Wonderland, and Polar Express. The player is quick and intuitive with the Internet app screen as the main screen. Disney's Alice in Wonderland is fabulous and I'm most surprised by how pleasing the image depths are. IMAX Under The Sea has the cool IMAX 3D number countdown at the beginning - fun. The sea images give "whoa" reactions from the family. This is THE 3D Blu-Ray to throw in first - Jim Carrey narrated and beautiful. The tech of the whole thing falls away after a few minutes and the experience is immersive from then on. The player is snappy.
3D thoughts, as this set is passive 3D (vs active 3D)
Passive 3D gets everything right it claims, IMO. The glasses are light and easy. It's nice they are inexpensive (I bought10 pairs of RealD glasses from Amazon for $25 10 - Pairs - Brand New Sealed - 3D Circular Polarized 3D Glasses same as RealD for Disney Digital -Legend of the Guardians (10 Pairs) -they work great). Also easy to sit and glance down at my lap top now and then. I surely don't wish I was worried about the active 3D syncing, battery life, and if someone is going to sit on them. My brother-in-law walked in and I tossed a pair of glasses across the room. He slapped them on and said "Wow, that's awesome". He also has 3 kids under 6 years old. No way he ever buys $100 glasses (which is what the active version of 3D requires) for that bunch. ;)
The knocks on passive 3D are a little over stated for me. You'll find these concerns if you surf around the internet researching 3D TV options.
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Pros Basically it has very vivid colors and good black levels to go along with that. Good screen uniformity along with pretty good off center viewing. No headaches from 3D that I've noticed. The wifi and internet features are nice to have.
Cons Not really any major cons that bothered me enough to not like the set.
Summary First off this TV is pretty big at 65 inches and the pictures are beautiful. The glasses are inexpensive and give a very nice 3D effect. While watching regular TV the screen is bright and colorful. It also has excellent contrast ratios that don't seem over done or artificial.
In term of black levels, I thought the one cnet guy was kind of biased or just didn't know what he was talking about. I've heard all about how great the "black levels" should look on plasma and went to see some and viewed them side by side with LCD's. I DO understand why they should look better and how the displays work. But If I'm being honest, the plasma's tended to look washed out and I felt like I wanted to wipe the dust off the screen because they were kind of dim. This set and some other higher end LCD's had a picture clarity that was very bright and clear. The plasma just didn't do it for me. I know that room lighting can be adjusted for the plasma, but the LCD had so much brilliance and I have more room to play with the brightness that it just seems better for most viewing. Also the black level on this set is excellent! It could be that the plasma has an even blacker black level, or more defined etc, but by the time I saw all the other differences, I just didn't care any more. This set looked way better. Perhaps there is a specific movie or dark scene that looks better on the plasma, but again, it seemed that this set was better on most things.
As for screen uniformity, I think the set looks pretty good. Sure 480 zones of local dimming would have helped, along with more back lighting etc.. But I didn't spot any real issues here.
About 1080p/24 content not being handled properly. I can't see how this is a con to 99.9% of people. In very short, the idea is that you can maybe get content to display at 24 frames per second like some film/discs are natively recorded in. This supposedly causes a more perfect transfer of frames for smoother playback. In reality, it's almost impossible to see the difference. Due to 3:2 pulldown methods most TV's seamlessly do a conversion for us and the result is pretty much indistinguishable from native 24fps and it allows playback on 60 or 120hz etc. Besides blu rays would look terrible at this rather slow rate anyway. Basic point is it's not worth worrying about. Google "High-Def FAQ: What's the Big Deal About 1080p24?" for indepth.
The 3D looks pretty much like the other TV's I looked at with active shutter glasses. Being that this set is bigger at 65 inches, the 3d effect is more pronounced than smaller 55 inch sets I saw that seem to be more popular. The IMAX Under the sea is great too. The 3D also looks good while walking around the room and changing angles. Of course being more centered is better, but off to the side did pretty well too.
That said, it's a a very nice TV and I don't think it could be beat for the price either. 65 Inches does bring a more immersive feeling to movies whether it's regular TV, a blue ray, or even a 3D movie.
Pros Professional reviewer must not know how to adjust picture settings. 2D picture is fantastic! Turn on the Smart Dimming feature and the black levels are black with great contrast! Set has no problem with 24 frames per second decoding, either! Screen unifor
Cons Price was high, but now marked down to $2500 at most stores!
Summary I did a lot of research before buying this set, and this is the best TV out there, bar none! First, contrary to other opinions, the Theater 3D is spectacular! The resolution is crystal clear, and the 3D brightness is fantastic. This is NOT half the resolution of full HD 3D sets, because those sets blink between alternating eyes every frame. You get both eyes in every frame with this set, so the resolution works out to be the same, but this set is brighter with a clearer 3D picture and you don't get flicker headaches. It is truly great! We brought home 10 pairs of real 3D glasses from the movie theater and the cost was $0 for them! no batteries needed.
The set decodes 24p Blu-Rays perfectly! I compared it side-by-side to a few competitor models, and the Vizio won with better contrast and deeper blacks. The ambient daylight sensor works great, and adjusts the overall brightness depending on the light in the room. This has worked better than I expected it to. What a great feature to have. If you like smooth motion, the 120hz smooth motion feature will really clear up a movie when the director usually has quick pans in a scene. It works so well that the movie will look like it was filmed on a home HD video camera instead of film. I personally like to see exactly what the director intended, so I turn this feature off when watching movies and TV shows (more comfortable for me) , but it is great for live sports!
As for extra features, the streaming internet apps are a fantastic add. I use them to get my TV guide, check the weather, stream movies, and go on Facebook, and there are dozens to choose from. I'm glad I bought this set. I also bought the Vizio 3D Blu-Ray player, and it's picture is better with more natural colors than my Samsung Blu-Ray player that I bought last year. It loads much faster as well. Overall I haven't found any negatives.
The more reflective screen keeps fingers from ruining the polarized screen behind it for 3D, but if you face the TV away from large windows, you won't have any problems. The contrast and brightness are great though, and I've been able to watch movies in the middle of the day when my last 65" TV (different brand) had problems at the same time with a non-glare screen, so non-glare screens are not as great as people think. (They are duller with lower contrast). All-in-all this Vizio is incredible, and Theater 3D is the way to go for the future! A set that we don't have to spend hundreds of dollars for 3D glasses and batteries on, and when you compare the 3D side-by-side to a full HD 3D set, you'll laugh at how much better Theater 3D truly looks!
Pros Easy set-up.
Big screen matters. Blu-ray very good.
Good color rendition.
Passive 3D enjoyable (loss of resolution not annoying).
Very good intuitive remote.
Cons Black levels too light.
Excessive backlight bleeding in the corners.
Some smearing during rapid movement.
Glossy screen reflects everything.
2D low-definition material suffers from too little resolution on too big a screen.
Summary If you want to be picky, there is plenty to cause you angst. However, for the size, features and price, this TV is a very good value. The TV is installed in my living room, replacing a 67" Samsung DLP and does a great job entertaining my kids. While the CNET review does accurately portray the unit's shortcomings, none of them are sufficient to detract from enjoying whatever I'm displaying. I definitely recommend CNET's picture settings for viewing movies in low light.
Pros Nice big, vivid, bright, 3D set without being overly exaggerated in contrast. From what I could tell it would be easy to make adjustments to brightness, contrast etc to fit pretty much any room environment.
Cons I couldn't find any real cons, except that some other sets may look a little better. But then according to price, those sets were also like $700 to $800 more etc. I'm still looking. May also consider active, but this set really looks good.
Summary If there is anything that annoys me, it's reviewers who selfishly give 1 star reviews in some effort to dissuade others due to something that happened in their particular situation. Whether it's on Amazon, or Best Buy, these reviewers get a tinsy bit too upset and just quickly 1 star a product without being objective about it. This usually happens with either inexperienced reviewers, or the super nit picks. Then instead of admitting perhaps they are being too harsh, they try even harder to convince everyone something totally sucks.Ack, maybe I should have said a little more about the new Vizio, lol. I will say this. The horizontal lines didn't really grab my attention when I saw the TV as the OP said. I'm sure if the OP says they are there they are, but again, because I wasn't looking, I didn't really see any issues with it. I also didn't see jaggies. The scene was beautiful and natural, but it was a jungle, and then fish etc. I wish I had looked for a tennis court or something with more lines in it, but I suspect that in most scenes those jags won't appear. I still think I need more time with the set to decide if it has as much depth as the Samsung and Panasonic, but it over all was pretty 3D at 15 feet away. On the other hand I wouldn't have minded Vizio's original 72 inch offer with actives for $3500, but they discontinued it. And I'd also pay for 4 sets of actives, so other sets are in consideration. But again must say the 3D on this is nice enough to consider, plus is cheaper at $3500.
Fact is that any set you look at will look "better" in a smaller version at first glance. That's because there are just more dots in a smaller space. Putting something on a bigger screen will expand things a bit, and make the image seem softer with less contrast. But that doesn't necessarily mean the picture is worse. You are just seeing the same information spread out. However, if you are in a bigger room, it's usually more of an advantage to have the bigger set. Problem with barleyreview is he's comparing this 65 inch to a 55 inch set and that's a no no. It usually takes a fairly experienced reviewer to do that correctly.
Now there could be something he legitimately sees in terms of artifacts, but most of the time when I've read a review like that, and then went to check it out my self, I usually find the reviewer has greatly exaggerated their disappointment. Some clues that support what I'm saying are that he thinks the TV is "worthless" in 2D. Not mediocre, but again worthless. Yet I suspect if he really thought it was that horrifically bad, he'd return it as he's already explained was an option. So I'm calling B.S. at this point. Worthless? 1 Star? How can anyone believe a review like that? He says he couldn't stand to watch anything. Really? and yet he keeps the set.
I remember when we got our 65 inch CRT projection set 10 years back, and I turned it on using standard def. It was so big it seemed to make defects seem blow up etc. Especially when I compared it to our 35 inch tv. But at the moment I thought that I had been nit picking. Changing the programs, and picking different content also showed how nice of a set it was. A month later, I thought the set looked great whether it was SD or HD. It was partly a matter of adjusting to it's size. My viewing distance was between 17 feet and 40 feet, depending on where I sit. But I like to sit at about 17 feet. Yes, it's a large room. But even at 15 feet I liked it. So, sure, if I look back at the old 35 inch, It seems more concentrated, with more contrast, but years later that set looks way too small to me. I wouldn't go back to that for anything. But what distance does the other reviewer view it at? Who knows. Maybe he's in a small room and sits only 8 to 10 feet away. IN that case, it could seem over whelming, and that could be why he thinks the 55 inch is better. But if it were me, I'd stay with 65 inch because I know I got used to it and loved it. And this new Vizo is WAY sharper than the 10 year old CRT projection set. The only thing making me hesitate is I want to see a few more sets before fully making up my mind. I'm curious to see which ones have more 3D depth. I saw a 55 inch Samsung and it was really nice but at 55 inch it seemed small. I will go back and review all the sets again and if I feel there is something clearer than the Vizio, I will adjust the star rating accordingly.
Updated on Feb 12, 2011