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  • 4.0 stars

    "Have one, very fine." on by remmond

    Pros: Fast, high resolution LCD, weight vs. performance

    Cons: Rather have a non-glossy screen for work, headphone port hiss (boo), spacebar bezel proximity

    Summary: After working 3.5 years on an Inspiron 8100 with an upgraded M9 ATI 9000 card (an excellent machine, sans the very creaky case and funny LCD connector that would corrupt the LCD screen and I’d have to “twist” the case to get the display back to “normal”. Heck, Far Cry was even playable! At the lowest settings mind you… 10fps during heated battles), I decided to get a M170 from Dell Canada. $2800 Cdn with a 2.13Ghz, 1Gb RAM, 80GB HD, 6800 Ultra and XPS brand backpack (I found a flyer offer for the discontinued Gen 2 for $2999 which they matched with the M170 (basically the same machine as the Gen 2) and a $200 coupon… always dig for Dell coupons to save a bundle).

    I mainly program database applications and develop web sites but wanted a machine that could handle modern games with a bit of future proofing. The machine with (shockingly HUGE) power supply and 3rd party laptop bag (Tracer Brand) weighs about as much as my 8100 did (16lbs) in the APC bag I recently bought for it (APC makes an excellent laptop bag BTW, but way to small to fit the M170. I Picked it up at a discount store for $25Cdn… cried when I had to abandon it).

    The M170 is a BIG laptop, but the 17” screen is well worth the size. I tried and returned an ACER Ferrari 4005, which is an amazing machine in every way (speed, weight, screen, build quality), except the keyboard was very rubbery and drove me crazy when I typed (which I do a lot of). If the ACER keyboard was better I would have kept it happily. But the Acer is in a different class than the M170… the Acer is a powerful machine that’s reasonably light (Acer 6.5lbs vs. Dell 8.6lbs not including power supplies… and the M170’s supply is like 2x heavier than the Acers) and very trim for its screen size. But the bulk of the M170 is a fair trade off for the large high resolution screen and the performance. The M170 actually runs quite a bit cooler while doing office type work. Also, the fan, which runs all the time (as did the Acer), is quieter than the Acer. The Acer’s exhaust from the fan was quite warm, even when the system was idling; the Dell’s exhaust isn’t warm at all when idling.

    The glossy screen is a bit of a pain in an office environment (but fine in my basement home office). It reflects ceiling lights and the windows, but if you tilt it just right, it livable. When I ordered the M170 I didn’t clue-in the screen was Glossy… TruLife = Glossy, d-oh. I may not have actually ordered it knowing that… but now that I have it, I’m happy to put up with the reflections. I’d have given it a 9/10 if it had a non-glossy screen at the same resolution 1920 x 1200 (from an office work perspective).

    The keyboard is the same layout I’ve had on my previous two Dell laptops and its feel is excellent. My 8100 keyboard was very well broken in with a lot of the letters worn off the keys and the space bar worn smooth. One complaint I’d have about the M170 keyboard and funny enough about the Acer Ferrari keyboard is both keyboards bezels below the space bars are too high and your thumb (ok, MY thumb) bumps into it when typing. Maybe I have some genetically misshaped thumb in that it doesn’t curve down to meet the keyboard before hitting the bezel, but my 8100 had a nice sloped bezel that was a millimeter or two lower than the space bar… thus avoiding contact when typing. I can live with the problem, but it makes me wonder what the two manufactures were thinking when they designed the bezel keyboard relationship. It almost feels like they thought, “Hey these are game machines… not for work… maybe we don’t even need a keyboard?… oh, maybe I guess we should put one in just incase…” But the Inspiron 9300 has the same bezel keyboard relationship as far as I can tell… I think the 9300 is meant as a work computer, could be wrong though.

    The build quality of the M170 is excellent… no creaking unlike my old 8100 that creaked if you even looked at it the wrong way. The LCD does leak some light along the bottom, doesn’t bother me… as I don’t notice it when using the machine for office applications. I don’t see any of the dreaded “sparkles” people talk about in the LCD; not sure of the brand.
    The dang-headphone plug has a nasty hiss when you’re using headphones. I’ve read about this problem on the Inspiron 9300 also… and it’s a shame, must be a physical design flaw as they haven’t seemed to solve it. When I’m listing to music or playing a game with headphones it’s not really noticeable. But if you’re listening to the headphones without any sound, it’s quite a loud hissing sound. I’ve tried turning off line-in and other sources but nothing helps except selecting “PC Spk Mute” under advanced settings… which isn’t much good of course since that disables all the system sound. Fingers crossed they may be able to solve the problem with a driver update (not holding my breath).

    The LED lights on the case that light up are “neat” I normally have them off, saving the LEDs for a special occasion like Christmas or something.

    I stretched the life of my old 8100 with a new Hitachi 7200RPM 60GB drive (replacing a 4200RPM drive). It made a big difference in performance (booting, starting applications and database work) on the 8100. I transferred the 7200rpm drive to the M170, mainly so I didn’t have to reinstall all my applications and settings (man, I HATE doing that). The transfer was easy… just set the BIOS to boot off the CD, move the hard drive over, boot off the Windows XP CD (purchased version, NOT OEM) and select “Install Windows” (not the repair option on the first page) it will find the existing version of windows on the swapped HD, select “R” to repair the existing version. Windows will reinstall… activate with MS, install drivers from Dell and bam… you’re done! Did it three times no problem (8100->Acer->8100->m170) but I digress.

    I ran HDTach on the original hard drive that came with the M170 (a 80GB, 5400RPM drive) and on the 7200 after installing it. Both drives performed roughly the same. The only big difference was the 7200 drive had a slightly lower seek time of 14ms or so vs. the 5400’s 16ms. But I wouldn’t hold much credence in the results given I didn’t go out of my way to shut down every task possible. But it does sort of suggest that the 7200 drive isn’t much of a benefit over the 5400 in normal use; still nice to have though.

    So all in all I’d give the machine an 8.5/10. It’s an amazingly powerful machine with tons of screen real estate for business apps at a reasonable weight/performance ratio. Far Cry is the only high-end game I’ve tried on it, and it runs amazingly well, very smooth. Its minor glitches (hiss, spacebar bezel proximity, Glossy screen) are livable. Nothing is perfect, but I'm pleased.

  • 4.5 stars

    "The ultimate true gaming laptop, that even gets almost 3 hours of battery life." on by Kougar

    Pros: Powerful, sturdy, great WUXGA screen 20-40% off dell coupons!

    Cons: Expensive (Find a coupon!), battery life is "decent"

    Summary: Since I actually own this laptop, I feel I should help keep the record straight as opposed to those that just seem to hate Dell and write whatever they can think of to detract from their rep.

    It is amazingly powerful, the newer versions with a GO 7800GTX and 2.26ghz Pentium M CPUs are even more so. I thought the lack of "smoothness" hyperthreading gives the P4 would detract from my liking of the Pentium M, however this laptop never seems to experience the brief "hangs" my old desktop used to have!

    The 1920by1200 WUXGA brightscreen display is perfect, not 1 bad pixel on it. The glossy screen doesn't bother me. The hinges are absolutely solid and still going strong. The brushed aluminum back even hides the usual scruff marks a laptop accumulates, and is a good amour for the display itself. For the power this system offers it is amazingly light and not bad carrying around. It even fits in my 15.4” size rated Targus backpack, despite being a 17” display. And it’s only a mere 8.7 pounds, lighter than anything else in it’s class.

    I can squeeze out 3 hours of battery life if I really try, which is very good for a 17” system, and exceptional IMHO for the horsepower you get under the hood. The system temps were good across the board from GPU core to CPU. The DDR2 RAM does get fairly warm however. The fans are silent, and under load you still won't hear them with any other sort of noise in the room. The speaker quality is good, although there is no real bass for that “thump”. Honestly, this laptop has way more “bling-bling” than I’d want, but is just personal taste, and anyway you can turn the LEDs off and stick a cover on the lid if you really need to ;)

    Now about that high price… I got mine with a 40% off Dell coupon folks. The price was still “high” afterwards (due to a 7200rpm drive, most upgrades, and 4 year everything warranty in my case), but it was worth it for a TRUE desktop replacement laptop. So if you are interested in this system, make sure you grab a 35 to 40% off coupon off the web before you buy!

    For a better price/performance ratio then I would have to suggest you use the coupons on a 9300, same chasis/case without the flashy stuff but without the same crème de la crème of hardware offerings. Otherwise if you want the absolute best, go for XPS Gen 2 as it can handle anything out there :)

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  • 4.5 stars

    "Man-o-Man What a Laptop" on by tonyman262

    Pros: Maybe better than advertised. Well built not nearly as heavy as it looks.

    Cons: Pretty wide, if you travel with it get a rolling laptop case for 17 inch laptops

    Summary: I have been using the Dell M170 for about two months and I am frankly very impressed.
    17inch LCD screen
    2GHz Pentium M processor
    2 GB RAM
    80 GB Hardrive
    Intel Wireless
    Bluetooth
    nVidia GO 6800 GPU
    This is a great machine.

    Because I travel a lot (Contract Trainer) I was concerned if this machine would stand up to the rigors, but it has so far without a glitch.

    This machine is REALLY a desktop replacement. I have read other reviews about sparkles on the display panel, well either I don't know what to look for or this display doesn't have that problem at all. This display is down right beautiful. Other Instructors and students have commented on how great the display looks.
    The keyboard is positioned well on the deck for comfort and ease of use. I have big hands.
    While the speakers certainly won't compete with standalone speakers from Logitech, or even Dell brand speakers they are certainly good enough. This is the first laptop that I have seen with a built in mini sub woofer.

    The built-in wireless and Bluetooth work great. There are a load of connectors
    6 USB, 1394,mic, headphone, SD memory,S-video, VGA and DVI connectors, along with modem and Ethernet connectors.

    Because I have been busy traveling I have not had a chance to actually play any games on this machine yet but the DVD burner plays great movies. I haven't tested the battery to exhaustion but I was able to play Batman Returns on a flight from Vegas to Chicago with no problem from battery life or heat.

    There are a couple of things to consider. Dell now ships their computers with a lot of fluff software even after I requested to not get it. That wasn't a big deal because I (probably like most that would buy this machine) normally wipe and reinstall Windows XP Pro as soon as I verify I have drivers for all of the on-board equipment.
    Dell makes it pretty easy, because included is a drivers disc and Dells website has everything needed that might not be on the System Software Disk.
    One other thing to consider is while this machine is not nearly as heavy as it looks it is wide. Well built, but wide. My old rolling laptop case would not work any more. Targus makes a couple of rollling cases designed for 17 inch laptops. I got one of the Targus TCG717 cases. This is a bit larger than my previous case, and because it is a bit wider it will not roll between the seats on most airliners, but will easily fit in the overhead luggage compartments.

    If I were to offer Dell some advice it would be these two items:
    1). Someone senior at Dell should try calling into Dell Service and Support. It IS maddening, infuriating, exasperating,frustrating and down right irritating. The thing is it doesn't have to be this way and it didn't used to be. What happened. Dell has come very close to offering a Lexus caliber product but with Pinto phone service.

    2). As soon as AMD gets its notebook processors to a reasonable battery life please reconsider using AMD processors. It is a shame to have probably the coolest laptop on the planet powered by anything less than the best processors.

    All-in-all this is a great laptop and I expect to get great service. Now where is Windows Vista when I need it?

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  • 3.0 stars

    "Not Pleased" on by vanilla__Wafer

    Pros: maybe good for gaming --

    Cons: not good for high end video editing and animation

    Summary: When I first booted it up, I noticed that there was resolution problem right away. The display was very dark and the letters and icons were very distorted.

    Right away I contacted Dell to complain about the problem. They acted as though I was the only user in the World that had ever complained about this, which is hard for me to believe (especially after reading more recent reviews).

    They took me me through tons of troubleshooting steps, which I knew would not resolve the issue. They even went a step further to have me download a new driver, which I was quite sure would not resolve the issue as well.

    We went on and on for sometime before they agreed to send out a replacement. I received the replacement and it was almost worst than the first one.

    I contacted Dell again and ended up requesting a full refund for the untit. For 3100, you would want better quality.

    I have not tested out the Toshiba, however, I have gotten a chance to see the display which is alot better.

    I purchased the Dell for Animation and Video editing. So far, the Dell M170 is not a good idea for animation and editing.

    On the brighter note, they agreed that I can get a full refund, so I am happy.

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  • 5.0 stars

    "Dell is getting it right - READ THIS!" on by Igloo888888

    Pros: Design, Power, runs cool, and the Service!

    Cons: Maxed out my Credit Card

    Summary: Some of these opinions on this site that either say this laptop 'Sucks' or say they had these brutal problems are absolutely bogus or are Dell haters (because they work for the competitors and they are getting their butts whooped).

    I got this laptop 3 months ago, and when you first take it out of the box, I guarantee you will have a HUGE grin on your face. It looks SO COOL!

    Second, the connections...man...the connections! Dell spared NO expense!

    Third, the screen is beautiful! Crips and clear, and bar none, the best laptop screen I have seen ever. Dell is supposedly the #1 seller of LCD's, and now I know why.

    Fourth, it runs cool and pretty quiet!!!

    Last - I was REALLY impressed that if you buy a high end XPS (deskptop or notebook) you get a different Customer Service line. About time! I paid 3500 bucks for this and when you pay this kind of dough, you expect some sort of frills Service wise. Plus, the Tech guy gave me a pointer on the Halo 2 game that helped me out big time :)

    Honestly, if you really are looking for a gaming laptop, this is it...Period. Dell is really going high end these days and so far so good!!!!

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